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IDW Expert Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 115 Member No.: 32,432 Joined: Apr 1st 2009 Location: Singapore ![]() | i was fascinated by the AE86's 13,000 rpm engine in the anime...it taught me a lot on racing but is that engine referenced from a real one in reality? or it's just exaggerated? i don't really watch group A racing that much plus i have never seen just a high revving engine in my life before... ![]() |
TTH | Posted: Apr 14 2009, 01:03 PM |
IDW Regular Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 222 Member No.: 27,213 Joined: Oct 28th 2007 Location: Mile high, piloting an Aeroplain ![]() | Well actually it revved 11,000 rpm and yes, it was true! But remember that it's an old engine so I'm pretty sure that no one doesn't use it anymore. And you cannot build engine like it anymore becouse TRD doesn't produce any parts to 4A-GE 20v anymore. Of cource if you wanna build an engine which is close to it, you can use TODA's, Wiseco's and someone else's parts and if you're lucky you may can still find some new TRD parts second hand. But would be an _very_ expensive 1.6 liter engine, becouse all those TRD parts alone would have costed around $120,000 (e.x crankshaft alone $13,500) But here is something like it: Spoon EK9 This post has been edited by TTH on Apr 14 2009, 01:05 PM |
kyonpalm | Posted: Apr 14 2009, 01:43 PM |
Professional Amateur ![]() Group: ADMINISTRATOR Posts: 10,568 Member No.: 30,882 Joined: Oct 16th 2008 Location: Laniakea ![]() | Good explanation, but if I'm not mistaken, I thought it redlines at 12,000 RPM... ![]() |
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Xtreme Drifter | Posted: Apr 14 2009, 05:23 PM |
IDW Regular Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 218 Member No.: 9,413 Joined: Jul 1st 2005 Location: Portugal ![]() | Here is something close: TRD AE86 N2 |
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IDW Expert Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 115 Member No.: 32,432 Joined: Apr 1st 2009 Location: Singapore ![]() | that's great info especially with the video from Xtreme Drifter...the engine is almost identical as the one in anime! my gut feeling tells me that it's the same engine with the one in anime (by looking at the specs commented by the youtube community and its appearance in the video) but like what TTH has explained, since it's expensive to get old parts nowadays, why are the automobile companies not making new engines that have such high performance? i am very sure if a pro gets his hands onto one of these he can fly in circuits... ![]() This post has been edited by shaojie on Apr 14 2009, 06:07 PM |
TougeSpirit | Posted: Apr 14 2009, 07:35 PM |
IDW God Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 195 Member No.: 25,759 Joined: Aug 8th 2007 Location: Davis ![]() | It does exist, it revs to 11000 rpm with output of around 250 ps. It's a heavily modified TRD 20v AE101 silvertop motor. Akira Iida is the only person I know to run it on the street, albeit limited to 9000 rpm and 210 ps for reliability. That TRD N2 actually runs a Formula Atlantic motor 16v. http://www.passracing.com/TRD%20101%20Gr%20A.htm he bought this group A AE101 with this motor, so yes, it does exist. Hasselgren can also build one to this spec, but pay mucho dinero or you could get the Hasselgren Formula Atlantic motor if you wish |
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IDW Expert Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 115 Member No.: 32,432 Joined: Apr 1st 2009 Location: Singapore ![]() | man i really hope to see such an engine zoom past my eyes... |
WRX DEMON Type R | Posted: Apr 15 2009, 12:41 AM | ||
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LOL. It would be better to get to try an engine like that. Also, I've seen (well, heard) one like that zoom past my eyes. On Haruna too at that... In an AE86 too. This post has been edited by WRX DEMON Type R on Apr 15 2009, 12:42 AM | ||
TTH | Posted: Apr 15 2009, 06:17 AM |
IDW Regular Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 222 Member No.: 27,213 Joined: Oct 28th 2007 Location: Mile high, piloting an Aeroplain ![]() | If you wanna see Akira Iida's AE86 with that Group A engine, you can download the video here: Someone's FTP Thanks to the person whos FTP server this is ![]() This post has been edited by TTH on Apr 15 2009, 06:58 AM |
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IDW Expert Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 115 Member No.: 32,432 Joined: Apr 1st 2009 Location: Singapore ![]() | oh god my modem's gonna be busy tonight... ![]() thanks TTH for this finding...never expected a AE86 fan to have such a collection... and speaking of which it tempts me to go find videos on EK9... ![]() |
Xtreme Drifter | Posted: Apr 15 2009, 03:01 PM |
IDW Regular Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 218 Member No.: 9,413 Joined: Jul 1st 2005 Location: Portugal ![]() | This video? Akira's AE86 Part1 Akira's AE86 Part2 Here is in youtube version, high quality. ![]() |
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IDW Expert Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 115 Member No.: 32,432 Joined: Apr 1st 2009 Location: Singapore ![]() | thanks Xtreme Drifter that was a damn good video...if you wanna have a copy of it you can also download it from the ftp TTH provided i was so happy when they completed the 86 from scraps...then an idea flashed for my signature... "boys build lego. men build cars." lol. |
Kurei | Posted: Apr 16 2009, 09:15 AM |
The Driving Specialist. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,429 Member No.: 15,603 Joined: Jan 26th 2006 Location: Michigan ![]() | Here's a video of a circuit-tuned AE86 with a similar high-revving engine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG489IlotiA Thing sounds fantastic ![]() |
Xtreme Drifter | Posted: Apr 16 2009, 02:12 PM |
IDW Regular Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 218 Member No.: 9,413 Joined: Jul 1st 2005 Location: Portugal ![]() | I really can't forget this sound: DK AE86 and Itsuki's voice actor Both the sound from the AE86, or from the actor. ![]() |
DriverX87 | Posted: Apr 16 2009, 03:59 PM |
IDW Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 24 Member No.: 31,627 Joined: Jan 16th 2009 Location: Update Profile ![]() | If you find a retired group A sprinter marino or levin u could probably salvage a motor from one. check out this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NR7RaEx3EE |
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IDW Expert Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 115 Member No.: 32,432 Joined: Apr 1st 2009 Location: Singapore ![]() | great videos guys...all of these just makes me miss ID more... ![]() |
stormfox | Posted: Apr 16 2009, 05:08 PM |
Underdog Nutcase ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,171 Member No.: 32,096 Joined: Mar 9th 2009 Location: Update Profile ![]() | http://www.club4ag.com/faq_and_tech_pages/...6%20project.htm other heavy modifications: http://www.club4ag.com/faq_and_tech_pages/...difications.htm there used to be a site detailing all the various engine spec and mods. i cant find it now...hmm.. . This post has been edited by stormfox on Apr 16 2009, 05:20 PM |
GTOrider88 | Posted: Apr 17 2009, 09:14 AM |
Shmuck ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3 Member No.: 24,907 Joined: Jun 19th 2007 Location: Update Profile ![]() | Well obviously, we know the engine exist, just that now days, that particular engine is hard to come by. Like a few other people posted, you can build a similar engine, but it'll cost you. Most people rather spend their money else where. |
Xtreme Drifter | Posted: Apr 17 2009, 10:26 AM |
IDW Regular Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 218 Member No.: 9,413 Joined: Jul 1st 2005 Location: Portugal ![]() | You have this site too: Bill Sherwood tuning It has LOTS of information. ![]() |
TTH | Posted: Apr 17 2009, 11:50 AM |
IDW Regular Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 222 Member No.: 27,213 Joined: Oct 28th 2007 Location: Mile high, piloting an Aeroplain ![]() | That Bill's site is good if you're building an engine which has 16V head, but for 20V version you cannot find there almost nothing information. It's same thing in the tuning shops also, they know about 16V 4A-GE but they don't know anything about 20V. But I'm pretty sure that they don't know anything about it becouse almost no one doesn't make any parts to it... |
HardcoreEP | Posted: Apr 20 2009, 02:40 PM |
IDW God Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 179 Member No.: 3,858 Joined: Oct 23rd 2004 Location: Update Profile ![]() | You need to get the 4AG Bible. It has all the technical data. The US Fomula Atlantic is a 16v and is 11,000rpm. The JDM FA engines were updated to silvertop 20v. TOM's for one year ran an N1 blacktop 20v engine. That motor made 223ps and redlined at 12,500. |
shaojie | ![]() |
IDW Expert Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 115 Member No.: 32,432 Joined: Apr 1st 2009 Location: Singapore ![]() | gosh...sick specs. unless i am damn rich in the near future or else i will never be able to lay my hands on such engines... |
anbu999 | Posted: Apr 22 2009, 01:47 AM | ||
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lol funny ... what does this "racing engine" from anime taught you about racing ? does it taught you how to corner, breaking, etc etc ?? Does this engine has pupil ? Maybe its time for to stop playing the arcade game and start saving to get rich and buy the real racing engine This post has been edited by anbu999 on Apr 22 2009, 01:50 AM | ||
MattW | Posted: Apr 22 2009, 08:30 AM | ||
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kyonpalm | Posted: Apr 22 2009, 09:17 AM | ||
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Lol, EXACTLY what I was thinking. ![]() | ||
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