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Tempted to just delete the last few posts haha.. and you guys get on ME for spam sometiems.. geez.

Just look at attached

This post has been edited by RX-7_FC_DrIfteR on Oct 25 2004, 01:26 PM

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such a funny gif, been posted before... i never did like the sequence, i dont like putting my heel over the gas then getting on the clutch then getting on the gas...

i clutch, gas, and downshift all at once pretty much.. just see my avatar

This post has been edited by sidewaysgts on Oct 25 2004, 02:09 PM

you only do the heel and toe when entering a corner...but before the corner...you downshift from higher gears to lower gears...by stepping on the brake then clutch and gas...while downshifting...that'll slow you down but it'll raise your rpm...and after the corner you should gain more speed after the corner.......ONLY WORKS FOR MANUAL CARS...WILL NOT WORK FOR AUTOMATIC

you can do the heel and toe more than once before entering a corner...depending on how fast you're going

This post has been edited by APEXi on Oct 28 2004, 02:35 PM

do a heel toe whenever your braking hard

I do heel toe for all braking.

For the most part I do also, unless I'm feelin real lazy. But even then it has become such second nature to me that I do it without thinking.

On a side note...

I had to use my dad's second car for a while there (Ford SHO....fast as F*uck btw) while I was wating for two new door handles for my FC (but that's a story for another time) and heal toeing was very difficult with it. The pedels were setup kind of awkward. Don't know if that is the case with all American cars....could someone confirm/deny this?

rXyan, "So good to have the FC back baby!!!"

Sho them ricers whos boss!

haha....I actually got to the one night on my way to a hockey game. This stupid kid in a RICED out neon was beside me at a light. My first thought was to not even waste the gas. So it turs green, and this kid just starts winding out first. I'm in second already and directly on his bumper...at this point I think to myself, 'what the hey' so I tromp on it and I'm gone. Next light he starts reving his engine (kinda like saying I got a running start I guess ). So this time I just gunn it rippin tire through second and basically never see him again. The best part is, that kid was probably so dumb that he had no idea what I was packin under the hood (not to mention my dad has done some mods to it too), and he was probably dumbfounded by the fact that an old Tarus just smoked him.


Sorry to get off topic.

Do professionals raise their brake pad higher than the accel to allow easier heel and toe ? If so what do you call that ?

you heel toe to rev match to down shift to a lower gear not when doing high speed cornering u wanna be in your power band you have more control with steering u heel toe before you enter the corner as you would brake for a corner that is how hard and long u would hold the brakes it adjust teh speed of your car as well u heel toe to slow down and keep the revs up while u enter the corner if u heel toe to lock your rear u let your revs drop lower to break the back useing this technique is hard to initiate a drift i would recomend the scandanavian flick since the car has power assuming its a bmw or something but the new bmw's and benz's have tcs so when teh tires slide the abs kicks in autmatically good luck dont crash into curbs

I see you ph34r grammer... that or oxygen.

you have to be careful because if you come into the turn and start to heal toe while turning you could do a clutch kick by accident and spin your car or loose all traction and just slide sideways because your entered the turn to fast and wont be able to recover before you run out of room.

I see you ph34r grammer... that or oxygen.

i totally agree i have no idea what he was saying without periods or commas its super hard to read anything when its all written like this perhaps he should invest in see jane run or a book like that to learn the basics of sentence structure maybe then we can read what he types another idea is that maybe his shift period and comma keys are missing on his keyboard

(flohtingPoint) way to stay on topic.

Ya hes good at that.. im such a bad mod haha

lol, read the first page, its about dying hair =P

Pff, lax mod > nazi mod

U shouldnt be heel n toein thru corner!!!! Before!

heal toe, just a way brake, not any special godly drift technique...you heal toe to slow down, shift to lower gear while keeping revs up, hence why you blip the throttle, as with most braking, you do it before entering a corner

apologies english isnt good

Heel and Toe is difficult...

To the person who said you couldn't do it in an auto, I beg to differ. XD I can rev-match my auto while it's in manual mode (which simply means that it won't change gears until redline if it's in 1, 2 or 3), and have done so on many occasions. You don't need to most of the time (hell, you could forego the heel-toe and just do it with two feet), but you can. For an auto it's:

1.) Brake
2.) Blip throttle while sliding shifter down

Prevents sudden jerks, which as we all know can have some serious side effects if turning. And in my car, blipping the throttle on an upshift also covers up some jerkiness... dunno if it's like that with all autos, though. It's why I don't floor it through first--so I have a little throttle left to do a smooth gear-change.

But today I was out in my dad's Mercury Capri (FF, manual, turbo Miata engine) just messing around... I came up to this one left turn that leads into a right S-turn, knowing I had to slow down quickly from 50 to about 30... so I tried to heel-toe it. Braked, flipped my foot over onto the gas, hit it while clutching in and shifting down, then let out the clutch as quickly as I could and bam! I did it. ^-^ It wasn't perfect, but it was damn close. Felt really cool to do it, too.

When you can get it perfect, you could technically downshift in the middle of a turn since there would be no drivetrain shock. But I'm a long ways from perfecting this particular move. ^-^;

And on a somewhat unrelated note, flooring a turbo FF car through a first-second gearshift uphill causes smokey tires. XD I think I freaked the crap out of the guys coming the other way. But it's so fun to blast through gears in that car... yeah... I'll shut up now...

wouldn't that be havoc for an automatic transmission, like a neutral drop?

Perhaps. I did a neutral drop from high revs in second gear once... stalled the engine... yeah... never did it again...

It's matching revs... The difference comes in with the fact that there's no clutch to let out, so the tranny's still being spun up as it's shifting... yeah. I guess that may be a problem. Again, it usually isn't something you'd have to do, anyway. With an auto you don't worry about the engine stalling, you worry about how much torque you can get... both acceleration and deceleration (engine braking).

The few times I've done it, it was to regain engine braking on a steep slope.

So no, it isn't a necessary thing to do at all. But what I am saying is that you can do it.

Thats why u keep it in D and just drive..