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> ...If I could spare a few minutes of your time., Need help with a project I'm starting.
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  Posted: Mar 5 2012, 06:51 AM


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After thinking about it for awhile now, I've decided That I want to build my own computer from scratch instead of buying one. My main use for my computer would to handle my music and anime series, as well as pictures and various projects for college. I'm looking advice on what parts are necessary to purchase.
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What's your budget?
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  Posted: Mar 5 2012, 09:21 AM


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Anywhere from $1000-$1200.
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Posted: Mar 5 2012, 10:18 AM


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Should be able to build a rig to max BF3 easily with that budget. Might as well go big.

I've got $1200 or so into mine right now including near 3TB of storage, quad core AMD, 8GB RAM, and a high end video card.
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Personnally, I always recommand Intel. I would only choose AMD if you are on a tight budget. Intel is more future proof especially performance wise. So, since you are not going to play (at least you didn't tell us), we won't spend much graphics wise. So, here we go. (Note : all prices are the regular ones)

Motherboard : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128502
Gigabyte GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 (130$)
You won't be gaming, so, overclocking or extra gaming features won't bother you at all. So, I went for a more basic motherboard that is still offering high-speed PCI-Express, plenty SATA and USB3. All that for 130$

CPU : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115073
Intel Core i5 2500 3.3GHz (210$)
This isn't the overclockable version but at the same time, the motherboard is limited in that regard. So, beside that, you still have the full power of this amazing CPU with a turbo boost up to 3.9GHz!! This thing got powah!
IMPORTANT NOTE : The CPU has an embedded on-board graphic chip. The CPU and motherboard goes together so you can use the embedded on-board GPU chip.

RAM : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820145315
Corsair XMS3 1333MHz 2x4GB (48$)
With 8GB of RAM, you have lots of RAM to spare for heavy multi-tasking. By the way, 8GB is becoming more and more mainstream amount of RAM for 48$

HDD : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822136792
Western Digital Caviar Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM (220$)
LOADS of storage for your storage needs. Good performance. Unfortunately, because of the floods that happened last fall in Taiwan, hard drive prices are really high... and we cannot do anything about it :\

Optical drive : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827106289
Lite-On iHAS124-04 (17$)
For your CD and DVD reading and burning needs. Cheap and does its job!

PC Case : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811129066
Antec Three Hundred Illusion (70$)
There are many PC Case for all tastes but I chose this one. Offer what you will need most : good airflow and space for extra upgrades if needed

Power Supply : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817139020
Corsair Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W (120$)
Your PC, like it's looking now, would run on 450W. Why a 650 watt? Think about the future. If you add a dedicated GPU or hard drives... you need the electric fuel. 450W is just not gonna cut it. And Corsair is among the best PSU makers around.

CPU fan : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835103065
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 (30$)
Probably among the best CPU fans ever created and an impossible-to-beat price. The CPU fan that comes with you CPU doesn't cut it. It will just reach sky-high temperatures under load and with this third-party fan, you can keep it much cooler!

Thermal paste : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835100007
Arctic Silver 5 (13$)
That paste between the CPU and CPU fan helps transferring heat. This thermal paste is... AMAZING. Just wow. Don't look back and choose this one

OS : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16832116986
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit
Should I explain what this is. Genuine OEM licence. Don't bother yourself with cracks... seriously.

Total [REQUIRED PARTS] : 965$ (no disccounts accounted for; 10$ shipping)

OPTIONAL PARTS

Monitor : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16824236049
Asus VW246H 24" 1080P (230$)
Probably one of the best monitors out there. I own it myself and just WOW.

Dedicated GPU : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814161379
AMD HIS H675F1GD Radeon HD 6750 1GB (100$)
Will add some graphical power to your machine while having modest performance in games. Will play most recent titles if you are willing to reduce the quality of graphics.

Total (w/optional parts) : 1305.16$

Other optional things you could add : headset, printer, scanner, spealers, dedicated sound card...

You can save a few bucks by...
- Using the CPU fan included with the CPU (saves 30$)
- Use a LGA 1155 Core i3. (saves ~70$)
- Buy 4GB of DDR3 1333MHz RAM (2x2GB) instead of 8GB (2x4GB) (saves ~10$)
- Buy a cheaper computer case


If it wasn't obvious enough, you are gonna run on on-board graphics if you don't buy a dedicated one...

Hope that helps!

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I'd rather spend my money on future proofing the graphics setup than the basic hardware, Socket AM3+ is socket AM3+, it'll be around for a while which gives me an upgrade path if I start running into problems. Realistically, I haven't ever seen my desktop over 20% load on all 4 cores, which means there's plenty of overhead room before I even have to think about upgrading or hitting up the BIOS settings.

My bottleneck right now is my standard HDD configuration, RAID's not an option so I'll need to go solid state with my primary.

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  Posted: Mar 6 2012, 08:03 AM


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Sorry for the late reply, I 've been busy with school and work lately.

This information was extremely helpful, Thanks. I figured I was underachiving with a $1200 budget. It's good to know I'm overachiving.

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QUOTE (Blues @ 4 hours, 13 minutes ago)
Sorry for the late reply, I 've been busy with school and work lately.

This information was extremely helpful, Thanks. I figured I was underachiving with a $1200 budget. It's good to know I'm overachiving.

Well, if you already have a Windows Vista/7 that you can transfer, you can always use that. You can skip the monitor if you want to keep your current one.

@Spaz Yes, I agree that a AM3+ socket is more future proof since Intel has the extremely bad habit these years to create a new socket for a new CPU line. But, at the same time, with an AMD CPU you will be upgrading so much more to have the power of an older Intel CPU. I mean, the 8-core CPU AMD released (Bulldozer) was... much less powerful than the Core i7 2600. So, when they'll release another, you will be upgrading to the new one in hope to get closer to an Intel CPU performance wise. Even with the fix MS pushed for those CPU, they still aren't even close.

In other words, even though the Core i5 2500 might use a socket than won't be used in the future, methinks that's still very future proof. You won't be using the CPU's full power and you will be able to keep it around for god knows how much time.

Graphic-wise, spaz, he didn't mention he'll do something graphicly intensive such as gaming or video editing. So that's why I chose the integrated way to save some money. Of course, if he forgot to say that he plays some games, that I must agree that the integrated graphics sux. And, even the 100$ AMD Radeon 6750 won't cut it even if it's 10x better than integrated. For mild gaming, I would choose the nVidia GeForce GTX 560 or, for heavy gaming, the nVidia GeForce GTX 580. I would recommand the AMD Radeon 7990 only if you had a PCI-E v3 setup which would cost much more than the build above since we have to change the motherboard and CPU. And the CPU doesn't have the integrated graphics anymore.

Back to you, Blues

With a 1200-1300$ budget, It's definetely possible to buy an Intel rig with decents graphics. With a ~1500$ budget, we can add an...

SSD!

SSDs are mecanical parts-less hard drive that are MUCH faster than hard drives. They are perfect for hosting the operating system and software. The obvious thing is it's because it costs a heck lot of money. I believe it's 250$ for 128GB. On top of it, you need to have some tech knowledge on how to setup AHCI, disable stuff on Windows that degrades SSD performance over time such as indexing and defragmenting mainly. It's also quite a bit harder to format it since you have to do what we call a "secure format". Oce you get around that, it's an amazing device. I have a SSD myself. I never regret it.

Anyway, long post is long. Should post now haha

EDIT

I learned today the socket LGA 1155 will be even more future proof. It will be compatible with Intel's Core I3/5/7s 3rd generation (Ivy Bridge).

This post has been edited by Lebon14 on Mar 6 2012, 01:50 PM
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For now, I don't plan on doing any gaming on my computer, I'll spend most of my time watching Gundam, listening to music and doing various project for my computer classes and english classes. So far, that's what I have planned but I prefer to have extra room just in case I change my mind and start doing more advanced tasks on my computer.

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I see... if 210$ is too expensive for the CPU, you can choose one of those too :
Intel Core i3 2100 3.1GHz (125$) : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115078 (dual core)
Intel Pentium G620 (70$) : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819116399
Both CPUs have on-board graphics. Of course, the Core i5 is more powerful than the Core i3 and the core i3 is more powerful than the pentium.

If you indeed plan on doing more intensive tasks or want a PC that will survive a longer period without upgrading, heading with one or the other Core I's is the best way to go. Otherwise, if you want something under 1000$ that can run 1080P videos without much trouble and handles most task correctly fast. Head for the Pentium.

Most important : all added CPU choices all works with the hardware I chose above.

Hope it helps.

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This helped plenty. This was exactly the kind of information I was looking for. Thanks.


Anyway, money won't as I'm not buying everything at once. Since I also in the process of putting my car back together, I'm spacing this project out.