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Lonely_Driver | Posted: Feb 13 2014, 11:22 AM | ||
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Only pussys run nitro meth | ||
Spaz | Posted: Feb 13 2014, 01:46 PM |
Just a guy towing a car across the country to chase a dream. Group: FORUM MODERATOR Posts: 9,272 Member No.: 30,193 Joined: Jul 25th 2008 Location: Plymouth, MN | Oh you guys. There are a couple stations that still have it within 20 minutes of the track, hopefully they will be able to continue to carry it, but my breath is far from held. I'll run it if the have it, but if they drop it too I'm switching. There're a couple guys up there who're keeping tabs on it and I don't have to commit one way or the other until the end of March. This post has been edited by Spaz on Feb 13 2014, 01:46 PM |
MetalMan777 | Posted: Feb 13 2014, 02:14 PM |
Snooping as usual Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,780 Member No.: 32,588 Joined: Apr 13th 2009 Location: what are you doing in my swamp? | 110LL Yes, I like my hydrocarbons. The only lubricity alcohol offers is of the social sort. None of my cars need that much anti-knock anyway. Or... Methanol carries more oxygen than ethanol, switch to methanol. Burn more fuel, make more power. |
Mazda ina Ford guy | Posted: Feb 14 2014, 02:37 AM |
333 Half Evil Group: Advanced Members Posts: 507 Member No.: 37,098 Joined: Mar 9th 2011 Location: The Twin Cities | ....Or you could get a Mr. Fusion and run on garbage (banana peels and piss warm flat Miller High Life), just sayin'. [ Post made via Mobile Device ] |
RalliKai | Posted: Feb 14 2014, 05:54 AM | ||
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Even those will be banned soon. We'll be driving cars powered by miniture wind farms built on the hoods. | ||
DeeezNuuuts83 | Posted: Feb 14 2014, 08:30 AM |
IDW Goldmember Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,840 Member No.: 25,374 Joined: Jul 18th 2007 Location: Southern California | I prefer being powered by snails under the hood STAY STOCK!!! |
Spaz | Posted: Feb 14 2014, 11:10 AM | ||||
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It would be a 50/50 mix of water and methanol in a secondary injection system. That gets you the best of both worlds, and in fact due to the combination of cooling and knock-quench will make more power than any other mixture of the two, or either by themselves.
That's the worst idea I've ever heard! This post has been edited by Spaz on Feb 14 2014, 11:10 AM | ||||
DeeezNuuuts83 | Posted: Feb 14 2014, 03:02 PM |
IDW Goldmember Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,840 Member No.: 25,374 Joined: Jul 18th 2007 Location: Southern California | Zero problems... you should've seen my smog test results from last month. Clean as a whistle. |
MetalMan777 | Posted: Feb 14 2014, 08:14 PM | ||
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Tuned right, pure methanol should make you more power than anything else. Except nitromethane. Expensive and your mpgs go to absolute shit, but you make a lot of power that way. You could buy a Nitrous Oxide kit a lot cheaper than a bunch of turbo mods. | ||
sideways | Posted: Feb 14 2014, 10:40 PM |
We're the People's Front of Judea! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 13,123 Member No.: 1,355 Joined: Feb 28th 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | Ive actually always been a fan of water/meth injection kits over e85. E85 is great if you can find it- But its not a viable option for everyone. Its nice being able to fill up *anywhere* with anyones gas, instead of having to revolve your cars life around a very small handfull of stations. Just so much more "practical" to me. |
Spaz | Posted: Feb 15 2014, 11:45 AM | ||
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This! So much this. I don't MIND being tethered to a few stations, hell, I tend to be very business loyal so that works out just fine. But leaving the Midwest turns into a pretty big hassle for fuel when E is all you can run. I had a pump gas map for my VIII that would allow me to limp the car without boost to the next station with E, but overall that was a horrible way to go about it and would drag a very low E content mixture out for 3 or 4 tanks before numbers get back to acceptable ranges. An alky kit definitely fixes that kind of issue. | ||
sideways | Posted: Feb 15 2014, 08:53 PM |
We're the People's Front of Judea! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 13,123 Member No.: 1,355 Joined: Feb 28th 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | Haha sounds about right to me! I can only imagine how much of a pain in the ass it must be trying to actually plan a trip, plotting out appropriate gas stations along the way and budgeting your gas. With a water/alcohol injection setup all you need to do is find a home depot or the similar. Cant find pure methanol there? Ef it. Run denatured alcohol. Cant find either of these (because say, theyre out, or you cant find a home depot or the like)? Ef them too- Run to an autoparts store (or anywhere that has generic autopart stuff, its pretty common- gas station, grocery store, etc) and buy yourself a bottle of "Heet" (or similar). Its an additive that stops your lines from freezing over- How? Because its basically a bottle of meth. Dilute that 50/50 with some water and youre golden. Cant find THAT??! Dont fret! Buy yourself some low temp windshield washing (rated for below freezing) fluid for a couple bucks per gallon, as these will basically be a mix of meth/water (Watch out for hippie friendly brands though that dont use meth). Cant find THAT? Ef em again! Run pure water. Not ideal- But itll get the job done. Whats that? No watter? Screw it, turn your boost down to knock friendly level- Still fill up with gas anywhere, and be just fine. The options are plentiful. Another nice perk to the injection kits? You get *normal* gas mileage, and not e85 gas mileage. Its only a 15% difference or so for most people depending on tuning, and arguing for "gas mileage" on your "racer" is kind of silly, but hey anything that saves me money is a nice perk to me. Have i mentioned i prefer injection kits |
MetalMan777 | Posted: Feb 15 2014, 09:19 PM |
Snooping as usual Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,780 Member No.: 32,588 Joined: Apr 13th 2009 Location: what are you doing in my swamp? | IsoHeet (as if the name doesn't give it away) is isopropyl. Similar enough to methanol that it'll do the same job, but don't spend money on that when you can go to CVS (make sure it's CVS, because I don't own Walgreens stock) and buy isopropyl in a quart at 70 or 91% concentration for less than the Heet. The balance of the % is pure water, since you're gonna mix it with that anyway. This post has been edited by MetalMan777 on Feb 16 2014, 01:14 PM |
Spaz | Posted: Feb 16 2014, 01:03 PM |
Just a guy towing a car across the country to chase a dream. Group: FORUM MODERATOR Posts: 9,272 Member No.: 30,193 Joined: Jul 25th 2008 Location: Plymouth, MN | Worst case is even simpler than shopping around... Can't find alky supplies? Just leave the system off! The setup on the Aquamist systems is amazing. the controller has a a trigger wire that you run to the ECU and use for map switching. With the system off, it runs your standard pump gas fuel, timing, and boost maps. One press of the button to power the system, and it throws voltage at the trigger pin and all of a sudden you're on alky maps, with notably more aggressive timing and boost curves. Flow is controlled by injector duty cycle, so you set the onset of boost and flow caps, and it runs and tunes no differently than if you were running a secondary set of injectors like on a rotary. It's an ideal, but even with the failsafes there's always the risks. |
sideways | Posted: Feb 16 2014, 02:36 PM |
We're the People's Front of Judea! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 13,123 Member No.: 1,355 Joined: Feb 28th 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | I havent looked at kits in awhile- May I inquire which kit that is, and if i may be so bold, ask how much the retail is on it? This post has been edited by sideways on Feb 16 2014, 02:36 PM |
Lonely_Driver | Posted: Feb 16 2014, 02:49 PM | ||
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More than you can afford pal. | ||
Spaz | Posted: Feb 16 2014, 10:35 PM | ||
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http://www.rallysportdirect.com/Aquamist-8...ystem-Red-Gauge It's a lot, but so are injectors for E85, around $500 for a set. So all things considered it's not bad. Once you talk lines, mounting hardware, extra wiring, etc, it's best to figure about $1000 for a filled and functional system. | ||
sideways | Posted: Feb 17 2014, 12:37 AM |
We're the People's Front of Judea! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 13,123 Member No.: 1,355 Joined: Feb 28th 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | Im too used to being here in australia. That sounds appropriately affordable to me |
Spaz | Posted: Feb 17 2014, 08:24 AM | ||
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Well, even in USD I agree that it's appropriately priced. Still, I'll be considering it for a while. I'm thinking for the first few events I'll rock the car mostly as it sits; drop the fuel pump in, fix the rear spring rates, tune, and call it good. | ||
Spaz | Posted: Feb 23 2014, 07:25 AM |
Just a guy towing a car across the country to chase a dream. Group: FORUM MODERATOR Posts: 9,272 Member No.: 30,193 Joined: Jul 25th 2008 Location: Plymouth, MN | Well, I let on that I may be able to be convinced to pull the car out of storage, and my buddy at Chad Truss Photography knew just how to bribe me. Rig shots! We made some photo magic happen last night, and here's the first one. Image size reduced, original size: 960 x 635. Click here to view the image in its original dimension. |
Mazda ina Ford guy | Posted: Feb 23 2014, 09:05 PM |
333 Half Evil Group: Advanced Members Posts: 507 Member No.: 37,098 Joined: Mar 9th 2011 Location: The Twin Cities | Looking good Spaz, can't wait to see it in person! [ Post made via Mobile Device ] |
DeeezNuuuts83 | Posted: Feb 24 2014, 09:31 AM | ||||
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That's a great shot! And that reminds me...
How times have changed! Hehehe | ||||
Spaz | Posted: Feb 24 2014, 10:39 AM | ||
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Can't help buying a car without it! Either way, I'll probably pick up a winged trunk at some point. | ||
DeeezNuuuts83 | Posted: Feb 24 2014, 11:22 AM |
IDW Goldmember Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,840 Member No.: 25,374 Joined: Jul 18th 2007 Location: Southern California | Would you trade your wingless trunk for one, or would you want to have both trunks? As you probably remember, I went wingless (authentic carbon-fiber Do-Luck trunk) for around eight months, and while it was cool to have all of that visibility and be even less worried about being pulled over, once I put the stock trunk with the wing back on, I realized how much I missed it. |
Spaz | Posted: Feb 24 2014, 06:07 PM |
Just a guy towing a car across the country to chase a dream. Group: FORUM MODERATOR Posts: 9,272 Member No.: 30,193 Joined: Jul 25th 2008 Location: Plymouth, MN | I'd keep both trunks, use the winged one for shows and track days, and rock the wingless look on the street. I don't need anything drawing attention with the lack of front plate and blatantly illegal tint. |
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