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Just to let you know, those trailers are of a combination of actual gameplay and real time rendering using GT5's engine. Even in one of the trailers when they were in the garage, that was real time as well. To use Cockpit mode, you must have a steering wheel.

proof or gtfo. because im inclined to think both of those claims are false.

My statements are from recent articles off PS3updates.com and PS3fanboy.com, no need to get hostile. There is no need to BS from me as I don't believe in BSing/ No need to BS

This post has been edited by HellGuard99 on Jul 27 2007, 05:20 PM

Firefox can't find the server at www.ps3updates.com. and i just looked through the first 5 pages of ps3fanboy.com, and not any mention of what you posted.

just a note, usually when you post "important" information, you quote it in your post. it saves users having to search needlessly when you, the poster, knows where it is.

and if you want hostile, wait 'till the GT5 fanboys get word of this. especially if its true.

This post has been edited by dmhc69 on Jul 27 2007, 06:32 PM

ps3.qj.net is where its at, if you can find it. ill try to dig it up in the meanwhile. they are from interviews with the GT5 devs

GT5 with dahboard is cool I hope they not only include dashboard but also the whole interior to make it more closer to realism

Oh and don`t forget the numbers of cars too lol lol

This post has been edited by Yon WD on Jul 30 2007, 11:43 AM

I just wish that GT5/Gt5 Prologue can fully utilize G25..

Guys, I think i'm gonna buy a PS3 sometime this week it's for 399 brand new 60 gigs. I definitely won't lose this trade hehe. I also saw the pictures of GT5P dash view and it's awesome, the gauges work and stuff xD

Well, what's an interior without working gauges?

I don't think PD will have enough time to model all of the cars, their interior, and their damage model before GT5's release, not to mention all of the tracks and their overly complicated animations and textures.

Well, we can always hope, anyway.

i'm guessing all old cars are just going to get a slight poly-count boost, but otherwise be pretty much the same models from 4. same thing with the tracks. thats the great thing about sequels; re-using stuff from previous games!

as for damage modeling, i just realized how much i wish GT had it today. after playing PGR3, forza 2, nfs carbon, and dirt for so long, i just came to expect damage. having randomly played the juiced 2 demo (a game with no damage) i realized how completely lame it is to not have damage.

From what I heard, there's no official word about GT having damage, because of the time limit they got. But, PD said that it might come in the near future after the game is released and might be downloadable.

Interview with Polyphony devs has confirmed there will be full interiors and workin gauges, damage is not confirmed. GT4 Prologue will be a fully functional games says Phil Harrison in an interview, not just a demo. And it takes about 180 days just to render one car, remember that.

and they've already got 700 or so models already made. so that time is only really going into modeling *new* cars. assuming that's even accurate (which, since it sounds utterly ridiculous to make one car in half a year, is probably not correct whatsoever).

I want them to focus on the car sounds, but from what I heard on that little trailer from E3, it sounded awesome.

*Update* I'm buying a PS3 this coming saturday, i'll be playing GT:HD by dusk

EDIT - http://www.gametrailers.com/player/22575.html

This post has been edited by WRX on Aug 1 2007, 10:21 PM

It did, but that can all change faster than we think , we still have yet to see real-time proof that they re-did cars that matter to most of us, like say... the Civic Type R (EK), that thing sounds like a hairdryer

Haha yeah I agree with you, but we'll see when GT5p comes out

http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2007/07/0...ays-to-make.htm

There are many sources that confirmed it takes one man in the development team 180 days to make just one car, they havent made 700 models yet. That is why GT5 PROLOGUE is going to only have about 40 cars and 12 tracks. They want it to be that photorealistic. I do not know where you got your numbers of 700 cars from. But GT4 was for the PS2, not the PS3.

first off, they're talking about man-hours (or in this case, man-days), meaning the total time of all people. IE two people working simultaneously for 10 hours is 20 man-hours. this is proven by the fact that it states it would take "at least 5 years to make 700 cars." using simple math; if each took 180 days, they could only make 10 cars in those 5 years. from what it seems, also, is that the 180 "man-days" includes EVERYTHING; meaning atributes programming as well. i'm going to take a stab in the dark and say that programming the finesse of every aspect of the car takes significantly more time than modifying existing models, and probably slightly more time than creating a model from scratch. i make these assumptions with a basic background of both 3D modeling and program coding.

secondly, i get the number 700 from the fact that they already modeled 700+ cars for GT4. they're not going to re-make every old model from scratch; thats a complete waste of time. assuming they dont just use the existing 3D models, they will most likely modify the existing models to raise the poly-count and give them better textures. and it doesnt matter whether its for ps2 or ps3; a model is a model. its a piece of data that includes reffrence points to construct an object. the fact that there are cross-platform games with the same models should make that concept easy to see.

Then the game would be an entire mess, rehashed GT4 cars with GT5 cars. You never saw GT4 cars in GT4HD, Yes they had same cars like the R32 but, they were all remade from scratch.

"* Yamauchi said for GT1, one car was one day’s work for one man, GT3 was one man’s work for 30 days, and GT5 one car is one man’s work for 180 days!" keyword = one man.

That's one man's work rendering the vehicle, they have a team of 100-130 developers working on the game right now, and 40 cars are announced for prologue. Its obvious that there is a division for programming.

This post has been edited by HellGuard99 on Aug 2 2007, 03:27 PM

There's no point on fighting over this really. I mean GT series team will make it on time, but except on those damage stuff.

Yeah but I don't get his point, why would ANY developer want to port 700 cars from a last gen game to a high-def photorealistic game

because:

thats his point. and i completely agree. they would have to be completely stupid to remake every single car, with probably 80% or more of them having data already in a previous game, from scratch.

you have to realise that a model is an object. something that can be edited and modified into anything you can think of. they would have the source files for the models they created in GT4, and with a set goal in mind, they could modify it into something suitable for a next-generation, high-definition game -- such things as a big increase in the polygon count come to mind (google this term if need be for an explanation of what it does)

when "porting" is mentioned, its not in the context that they would take the exact same model from a inferior game and plug it straight into GT5 without any modification whatsoever.

This post has been edited by dmhc69 on Aug 2 2007, 05:01 PM

I get your point dmhc69, I mean your right about the modification right.

if they did upgrade GT4's models, it would take waay shorter than 180 days for one man to finish just one car, so its highly unlikely anyways.

You know, i wonder how much those guys get paid for all that work...

I can just see Yamauchi saying "Program this car, and you can have the real thing"