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I saw that video in all its HD glory, and by god it's absolutely beautiful. Trumps anything I've seen on Xbox360, easily.

However... it's just a video. I saw no gameplay. An Opening video or trailer can be as beautiful as it wants because it's had a render farm spend days making it into a film.

Gameplay is different. When I see some gameplay proof that it looks (and sounds) that beautful, then I'll really be excited.

DING DING DING!

let me know when they have actual gameplay footage. then you can compare. because if you've seen the GTHD demo available on PSN, it looks like crap.

edit: side note-- have you seen DiRT? that game looks utterly amazing on 360. there's a demo available on the marketplace.

This post has been edited by am3pkcet on Jul 13 2007, 11:54 AM

Played the Dirt demo on my friends 360. I wasn't very good but the game is reaallyy fun and lots of different camera angles available. Damage is really cool and they show you percentages of the status of each aspect of the car. The ability to roam a little further off course than other games is also really cool.

That video was stunning, but Phoenix has a point, no gameplay, for all we know it could turn out like Motorstorm

They show a great movie, but when the game arrives its a completly different story

But if the game ends up like the video, then Bravo to PD

This post has been edited by Kurei on Jul 13 2007, 02:26 PM

Graphics are one thing. the rest is a different story.

Let's see if GT5 will live up to being 'The Real Driving Simulator' instead of a good eyecandy showcase like most games today.

...though I guess, to most gamers, GRAPHICS ARE EVERYTHING! I wish they'd all fall off a cliff and die.

This post has been edited by mark4000 on Jul 13 2007, 03:47 PM

graphics arent everything, but if a game looks like crap, it detracts from the experience greatly.

well whats the first thing that comes to mind when someone mentions "next-gen"? the gameplay?

personally, i think if games didnt develop incredibly in the visual department like they have over the last 15 years or so, games like GT wouldnt be anywhere near as sucessful. im sure there was a massive market for the people who wanted shiny new graphics look as lifelike as possible, as well as a market for the people who wanted "lifelike physics" without being told "omg if u want physix dat bad jus get a real car rofl lol".

This post has been edited by dmhc69 on Jul 13 2007, 06:30 PM

Well. I guess I'm a part of that market. Besides, even the Williams F1 team have a sim with graphics on par with a PS1 (or was it 'first generation PS2'), but had response, handling, feedback, and overall experience almost close to the real thing already.

Btw, another advantage (or disadvantage, whichever you prefer) on having a cockpit view would probably be the fact that we'll finally be forced to figure out the best line through a driver's point of view instead of a car bumper's, which will make things more difficult but also more realistic.

But now that I think about it.... A detailed cockpit view like that plus having all the cars from GT4 with additional cars would definitely mean that almost every car will have their own cockpit view model. Then add the 'supposedly' massive improvement in graphics and visuals to that.......well.....I know the PS3 can handle alot more compared to last gen consoles but I sure hope PD wont get too ahead of themselves again and screw up the handling like they did with GT4.

This post has been edited by mark4000 on Jul 13 2007, 06:54 PM

somehow i doubt that this will be true, considering a lot of the cars are just different specification models of each other. i mean, GT4 had 48 Nissan Skylines in it; considering there would be probably only one interior for the stock trim versions, and the one for the race versions, that only makes for two interiors for all 48 versions.

somehow i see the developers going down this path. i hope for the GT fans that it isnt true, but for some reason i can see them promising too much in their game and then having to cut corners on stuff like this hoping people wont notice. i mean, look at the GT sound model.

would that really matter? i mean, honestly, other than different color fabric and maybe an extra badge or two, do you really think skyline GTR R34 is going to have a different interior than a skyline GTR R34 v-spec, etc?

if the only differences between the car are exterior aethetics and unseen mechanics, does using the same interior model make any difference? (hint: the outside of the cars (like all the R34s) all use the same model too)

oh no, theres nothing wrong with it. i just wanted to dismiss it before people start to think that every single car included in GT5 will be absolutely unique to their counterpart models. i didnt know that they used the same model for the exteriors, either.

ehehehe...that's why I said "almost every car".

I'm pretty sure different versions of a certain model would barely be different from one another most of the time.

Which is also why people would end up blowing money on getting a good projection screen, because the closer you are to the display the closer you are to the actual dash of the car and the more realistic it'll feel... and then the world implodes.

Well not really. But as cool as a cockpit view might be, one that's back behind the wheel still doesn't quite do it. One looking just over the dash... that's the ticket. Then you can have your DFP and use it, too.

its quite possible that something like that also came through their mind but I guess they'd rather show off by doing a behind-the-wheel camera and have the player look behind him through actual side mirrors and a back mirror rather than use the good ol fashion picture-in-picture stuck on top of your screen.

Although yeah, the cockpit view they did is kinda awkward cuz it's too far, considering the fact that the person is supposedly at quite abit of distance from the TV. It makes it look like they're forcing the player to stick his face infront of the TV.

bend over, Forza!

nuff said, I think..

Well God D@m, i may just consider getting a PS3 after all

erm... am i meant to be impressed? lol.

granted, it DID looked good, but not THAT good. and by that i mean, not good enough graphically to completely blow Forza away, which im pretty sure most of you are hoping it does... i liked their in-car though, looked very nice. and GT always has those great replay cameras, too. still, it wasnt enough to completely change my mind.

to me, the deciding factor between the two games at this point will be how well GT5 plays and handles. because right now, you can barely tell the difference between the two as far as the two look.

better keep working PD!

This post has been edited by dmhc69 on Jul 18 2007, 05:50 PM

How can GT5 blow Forza away when Forza already blows? XD

lmao whats with you GT fans? always hating!

im hoping for all your sakes that the game is good or you all have a lot of explaining to do!

This post has been edited by dmhc69 on Jul 18 2007, 06:01 PM

i DOUBT they will have customization like forza but if they do than i am sad to say that forza will look like SH*T...but in the bright side ill be able to play FORZA AND GT5, cuz i will go to my friends house everyday to play

Cool-looking movie, makes Forza 2 look like a joke, etc etc.

But it's just a movie. Where's the gameplay footage?

Good job Polyphonic Digital, you can render movies. That doesn't prove anything. Show us actual gameplay and maybe I'll be impressed.

great now how many more years before it really does come out? i.e. GT4

Yeah that graphic is 2x better than GT4, Now im starvin 4 a PS3

well to be honest, forza 2 looks like crap anyway. it looks almost as bad as PGR3, the jag-fest of a launch title. take a look at DiRT and you will see unbelievable beauty. i play it in 50" 720p, and its mistakable for real life at times... i'm really shocked at how good this game looks.

hopefully GT5 won't be plauged by those horrible interlacing issues that 4 had.

Hell it woudnt. Just too gud to not have horrible interlacing issues. although i wanted the car to be destroy when crashed into the wall. 4 realism