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> TG Challenge -{Hamster-sized edition}-, Hilarious Hyperminis
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Hello, and welcome back! This time, our challenge will be revolving around Japanese hyperminis that seem to be the future of the transportation in urban areas.

I have a sneaky suspicion that this challenge was designed with Hamster in mind, since these little cardboard-boxes have smaller engines than Smarts do, that are commonly turbocharged, and if you manage to get in, there will be barely enough room for breathing.. and a teeth whitener kit. shifty2.gif

I also think that May, that camp looking spaniel with his poofy hair, will have some trouble as well.. so, let's begin! *rips the envelope open*

"Your first task is to buy used or new Japanese hypermini, that fits within Kei-class specifications. FF, FR, AWD, MR, RR, N/A or forced induction is allowed. After Purchasing the vehicle, you have to give a positive review about it, before taking it to tuner shop and pulling out the maximum performance. You get points from every ten bhp over the stock power. Remember, reviews must include 2 pictures and specifications of the car as it is."

Hmmmmmmmmm... This is worse than I though. My toothbrush has more power than these! But I think there's one that can't go wrong.. I'll go for Honda Beat! shifty2.gif let's see what others will have before moving onwards with this.

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Why is there no budget FinToy?
why did the producers not include a budget? are they that rich?!
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Posted: Nov 4 2007, 10:15 AM


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Steve Coogan: Seeing as there was no budget, I went crazy. i found a 1995 Suzuki Cappuccino EA21R for only £7000 at the local dealership! Bargain! And it only had 33,000 miles on the clock and was Antares Red, as most sports cars should be. Standard this car was a promising performer, with 64bhp, 75.94ft lb. of torque, and being one of the lighter kei cars at 690kg. It is also mid engined and rear drive, so it handles like a pure race car. I took the car over for an oil change then went to Suzuki tuning to get the car upgraded. I bought a Stage 3 turbocharger, Racing exhaust and air filter, for free-er breathing. A Race spec intercooler, Fully Customisable suspension, racing brakes, fully customisable transmission, all 3 stages of weight reduction, a racing ECU upgrade, Nitrous and various other mods, which totalled up to a staggering £80,000+ Ouch.

After Modifying my "beast" of a sportscar Its horsepower was now 126bhp and it now had 110ft lb. of torque. It was also alot lighter at 627kg and could really take the corners well.

So, lets see what the others have got then, This is the perfect challenge, as Hammond will now feel like me and Jezza do in a normal car. Normal Sized.

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Capucchino isn't MR, but FR. though, the layout could possibly be called Front-Mid engine..
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Well, I'd enter... but when I asked for my cash from the production team, I got a lot of blank faces mellow.gif and the final question of "what IS the budget?" rolleyes.gif


I so hope the budget is lower than £80,000, just to see Coogan squirm tongue.gif
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Umm.. no, there actually is no budget for this time, since the word is that Top Gear has been doing so well that we've got independent funding. I guess the management still hasn't recovered from the party they had after receiving the news. But, I got bit more info about the first challenge: we're supposed to buy snow tyres for our cars, since we're heading to the Chamonix rally track. blink.gif
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Wait so, theres nothing stopping us from buying a powerhouse of a Keicar, slapping race tyres and downforce, giggle gas and more? blink.gif

Kinda ruins the point a bit, guess I could make it interesting though >.>;;


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So, for £2,344, I bagged this rather cute little car. Made in 1985 as a sort of, city car, the Honda Today is a very small car for er, small people I guess. Although I dont have any headroom problems whistling.gif . With 31bhp, and 32 ft-lb, its not the fastest car in the world. But it is economical. The example I picked up had 50,100 miles on the clock, and looked in general good condition. Oil change was performed recently, as well as having the body restored after 22 years of er, plodding about at 20mph. Painted in flame red, it looks very nice. And complements its boxy, yet smart shape.

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I went to the boys at Spoon, who when I asked about parts, laughed at me, and said "we dont do parts for that... thing". Sods. However, I came across a Honda NSX, dressed up with a wing and alloys. The owner looked at me, recognising me off TV, and said hi, and wondered why I had a Honda Today. I explained the challenge to the chap, and he was more than disgusted at the Spoon guys at laughing at the Today. Turns out the guy owns a tuning company of his own, R-Style Inc., who were responsible for the NSX I saw before me. I asked if they did parts for my car, and the chap replied, "no, but I'd love to tune it anyway". So, he got to work, whilst I got to drive their NSX, and if they could improve the NSX this much, I am only worried on how good they'll make my Honda Today.

I got the car back, and wondered if it was even my car. R-Style Inc. had totally rebuilt the car, lightening everything they found, and boosted the power. Sports tyres were also fitted. The car went from 550kg to a mere 500kg. Power was hiked to 71bhp, with the help of a racing exhaust, a total engine overhaul, and a bottle of giggle gas, rated at 100bhp! New brakes, suspension, transmission, infact nothing went unchanged on the car. Even the wheels were replaced with the same type as their NSX. Infact, they turned my Today into the "mini-me" of the NSX. Which is cute. happy.gif The Today was given R-Style Inc.'s "easy-drive" set up. Which turns out is also fun to drive!

So, thanks to the guys at R-Style Inc., my Today is a little cracker. w00t2.gif I wonder how it'll do...

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that is impressive indeed.. what about other contestants? blink.gif *listens the crickets*
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QUOTE (FinToy-83 @ Yesterday at 4:21 PM)
that is impressive indeed.. what about other contestants? blink.gif *listens the crickets*

Well theres you to post pics and stuff about your car... and erm... thats it blink.gif
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Posted: Nov 7 2007, 09:56 AM


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YAY! I made it in time... (evil grin) will post my car and mods etc soon biggrin.gif probly 2morrow...
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[Tiff]Well, after my limited incarceration on charges of Arson, I'm ready for the next challenge. After searching the used car dealerships all over Tokyo, I found a Kei Cars specialist.
On the forecourt, stood a Diahatsu, and two suzukis, but it was one of the Suzukis that caught my eye, a Wagon R double R. Its white, it sits low on four spoke alloys, that barely encompass the brakes. With the Kei Car standard of 63 BHP, and a whopping 70.45 Ft.lb of torque, the (A)RRR was a veritable pocket monster! Added to this, it only weighed 820 kg, and has an AWD drivetrain. needless top say, I snapped it up pronto!.

The Drive.
With the car bog standard, I headed for route 246 in Tokyo, to stretch my pocket monster's legs. The first two corners were third gear affairs, and it took me from where I joined the road halfway down the 'straight' to the first corner to get past 60 MPH. Once up to speed, the drill was Pedal to the metal all the way, except for one or two corners, but with traction control on I was losing 20MPH in the corners as Man fought machine. Speaking of which, lets 'uncage the beast', *Disappears under Dashboard*
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Two up even at the first corner!
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(A)RRR!!!
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The sheer speed of this pocket monster dragged the camera out of the Cameraman's hands...

Well, after a 0-60 of about 19.78, the first corner was a tyre squealing afair, and as before 5th gear was just excess weight, the car never needing to leave fourth, ecept to downshift, even along the considerable main straight. When I tried a little handbrake skid, the (A)RRR got skittish, almost understeering into a wall, but I was successful on my second attempt, getting a little slide on the first of the tight right handers. all in all, a great little car, incredibly slow, but with good handling and decent looks.

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Close call with the wall
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DoriDori!
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Look much faster from bumper cam.

Stay tuned for the next part of the story, where the (A)RRR meets a tuning company...
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Posted: Nov 9 2007, 01:37 AM


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Here is my car: Mazda Autozam AZ-1. Super tiny car, 659cc engine.

The car was the first time I saw it, and I found it a fair bit more attractive than the other Kei car class cars that were available, and one of the few that had MR that had decent power, only other car that drove the rear wheels with decent power was the cappucino, and I felt like driving something original.
The car standard felt sluggish at times, but one I tuned it was very quick, revving easily to the 10 000rpm mark.

Here is my car on a snow mountain road:
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And I couldnt help breaking out the rear end - the car does it itself in fact, it slides heavily in the corners - really slippery in the corners, I'll have to install better suspension...
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Most of the power came from the stage 3 turbo I installed biggrin.gif
Previous power: 43KW - New power: 83KW
Previous torque: 85Nm - New torque: 124Nm

And I must buy new rims as well - those old ones are damn ugly!

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And now, I shall reveal My choice of weapon for this challenge series. and it is THIS:

(pic to be added later)

Yes, that's right, it's Honda Beat version Z '93. It's powered by a tiny naturally aspirated 3 cylinder SOHC-engine, that spits out barely over 60 horses at ridiculous high revs. But it looks like a mini NSX, thus, I took it to tuner shop and asked them to slap a turbo and all other possible goodies on it, resulting more satisfying 150bhp and then some more with a bottle of giggles.. The car was also lightened, the rims were changed and in addition, it has a wing that will limit the top speed around 120mph, I suppose. But these cars were never about top speeds on straights, but the speed on corners. No weight = No understeer causing inertia. And now, onto the challenge.

You have purchased your Kei-cars and tuned them as you wish. Now you have to see how much the added performance helps you in the snowy roads of Chamonix rally track. Winner will not have weight penalty, but losers will gain 1KG per every second between him and the winner.

Oh dear.. well, Lancia had mid-engined rally car, MG had Metro.. so how hard can it be? blink.gif

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Kei-cars on ice, great idea they though. Well the Kei-car begs to differ! dry.gif

I knew what to expect with Charmonix. Afterall, last time we were here, my Acura CL trounced the competition, a victory well fought for, mind you. I wondered about my low ride height on the rough stuff. After a phonecall to the kind chap at R-Style Inc., he explained how even if we raised the height, the car would still be too low, so we left the ground scraping stance alone. On my hotlap, I could feel my underbody hitting the snow. I didnt think much of it at the time, until this happened...

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Yes, my little Honda got stuck... crying2.gif

No doubt Clarkson is absolutely laughing his buttocks off in his Beat after seeing my Today stuck on the enbankment. I asked management about the situation, if I'm allowed a retry or not... still waiting on an answer though... blink.gif

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Management let me retry. If thats good or bad I dont know, before I set off again I noticed my bumper was trashed pinch2.gif perhaps a sign?

My time: 2'51.175

I got a 2'56, but for my best lap I used that gas... 171bhp baby shifty2.gif

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My Time, It was difficult, but amazingly fun.

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2'34.624

If I win, Hamster in his lightweight box will have 17kg added! muahahah!

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517kg then? Still lighter than your fat cup of coffee Coogan tongue.gif
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@ Hamster: Mine has almost double your cars power, and the drive is sent to the correct wheels.
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Performance
First, I took the car to get its oil changed, this gave me the breathtaking HP increase of 2 BHP. Then I headed to the Suzuki tuning specialist recommended to me by my contact in England.

The guy at the shop was more surprised by the fact he had a car customer than by the car choice, and he went out back to blow the cobwebs from the boxes of car parts.
63BHP->121BHP
70.45->110.7Ft.lb
820kg->746 kg

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My time: 2'45.028. My car handled better on the snow than on the tarmac, and this is with semi-racing suspension.

I had to add some ballast and move it to the back of the car to get more traction on the rear wheels. Cos it slides, no matter whether its on snow or tarmac...
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And my time was 2'35.191 with bottle of giggles.. not as fast as I hoped from a temporary 250bhp beast, but better than I thought. every participant shall add penalty weight to their cars as the rules say, so that's 1kg for me, 11kg for realmdrifter, 17 for VTiRoj, and Shafz shall continue running without.. correct me if I'm wrong.


Anyway, now we onto the second challenge!

For this challenge, you are to equip dirt tyres, and head to the tropical track of Tahiti Maze. Same rules apply, but there is a catch: in case you spin out, you have to reverse to the exit of the next corner. wall contacts will lead to penalty weight of 5kg per contact.

But.. look at those hills! I bet someone will get stuck.. or quite close to it.. Oh, and the word is, that contestant who unfortunately achieves the last position in these challenges, will get to drive a White Beetle.. blink.gif that has been hooked up with Hammond's latest music album "Oliver and I", and tooth whitening kits for a year! ermm2.gif

I don't want to drive the White Beetle.. fear2.gif
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517kg is nothing, my Today can cope. tongue.gif I guess I shall be an extra careful driver this challenge, no wall hits for me! But then theres that white Beetle if I go too slow ermm2.gif but the music CD is tempting grin2.gif but are they worth harming my Today? crying2.gif
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Okay... it seems that I may have found out my problem with my scratched GT4 disc. Can anyone make me a new (NTSC) GT4 save file with the name Outlaw on it? But before doing so, please go to the options, and switch off the intro movie. From there, save in the garage in Simulation mode. From there, send me the .max file. I should be fine by there.

I realised that my GT4 disc can't do arcade mode anymore, but is all right with simulation mode, go figure. Thank God I have a friend nearby who plays GT4 as well. >_<

If it works.. just look out if Captain Slow pops by like the Botswana challenge

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Well, I arrived at Tahiti, and before I even got out of my Today, the production crew had already stuffed 17kg in my car... mainly consisting of little weights stolen from a gym blink.gif

I took another look at my front end, which still bares the damage from the snow crash. The bumper was bent, but that was about it as far as I saw. Water dripped from the radiator, I thought it was leaking from the impact, but it was just snow melting. tongue.gif

So, I bolted on the snow tyre equipped Volk wheels R-Style Inc. have supplied me with all through this ordeal, and went onto track. I knew every wall hit would cost me 5kg, and possibly breaking my car, so I was prepared to baby the little Honda around the maze. I have no worries of spinning out, nor of getting stuck. Sand and gravel wont hurt my Today as much as the snow... I hope.

Thanks to R-Style Inc., even with dirt tyres my Today handles the tarmac section with ease, and I was worshipping them all through the lap when I hit the rough stuff. Despite the low stance, the Today flew over bumps! Then when I let off the giggle gas, I was doing 70mph! On dirt! Around the last tarmac section I actually experienced oversteer too happy.gif

I only did 1 lap, despite my fun, and the Honda holding up well, I didnt want to damage my bodywork more ermm2.gif

Time: 2'58.425
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QUOTE (outlaw-2 @ Today at 3:09 PM)
Okay... it seems that I may have found out my problem with my scratched GT4 disc. Can anyone make me a new (NTSC) GT4 save file with the name Outlaw on it? But before doing so, please go to the options, and switch off the intro movie. From there, save in the garage in Simulation mode. From there, send me the .max file. I should be fine by there.

I realised that my GT4 disc can't do arcade mode anymore, but is all right with simulation mode, go figure. Thank God I have a friend nearby who plays GT4 as well. >_<

If it works.. just look out if Captain Slow pops by like the Botswana challenge

I can meet you halfway I think, I got a save named CMX which has the licenses done, and the rarer cars in the garage.
What hasn't been done is the races so it is still at 0% completion rate.
Furthermore, you will certainly have enough money for any kind of challenge.
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QUOTE (Sweeper @ Today at 9:54 AM)
I can meet you halfway I think, I got a save named CMX which has the licenses done, and the rarer cars in the garage.
What hasn't been done is the races so it is still at 0% completion rate.
Furthermore, you will certainly have enough money for any kind of challenge.

Guess I can use that momentarily till I get a new GT4 disc (Still trying to hunt down a copy, but I found a place where to purchase it, but can't find the shop so far >_<.)

Though, I hope my GT4 skills hasn't gone out. Been pre-occupied grinding my characters in Valkyrie Profile 2 for the final battle against Lezard Valeth. Damn the steep level curve.

EDIT: Just post the attachment in the thread. Would be easier for me to retrieve it.

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