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kyonpalm | Posted on May 21 2015, 08:48 PM |
Professional Amateur Group: ADMINISTRATOR Posts: 10,568 Member No.: 30,882 Joined: Oct 16th 2008 Location: Laniakea | Note: please vote seriously. After a hearty and heated discussion amongst staff this evening, a curious idea was put forth: just how should IDW's administration be determined? By the site owner, or by the people? Or should we pick a random member number out of a hat each week? You decide! While not being a concrete, definitive decision, the results of this poll will be taken into consideration. Your vote will (hopefully) go a long way in determining how we (mods as well by extension of admins, note!) serve you in the future. |
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HorizontalMitsubishi | Posted on May 21 2015, 09:06 PM |
Part of the Tessou Signature Series Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,439 Member No.: 2,022 Joined: Jun 16th 2004 Location: Torrance California | In before Tessou edits this post/poll and then tries to deny it later. This post has been edited by HorizontalMitsubishi on May 21 2015, 09:07 PM |
Lebon14 | Posted on May 21 2015, 09:08 PM |
🎧 Group: Advanced Members Posts: 6,594 Member No.: 18,005 Joined: May 25th 2006 Location: Canada | I won't vote here. To be honnest, I'm fine with Perry's decisions. Call me "Status-Quo-Man", I don't care. |
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Nomake Wan | Posted on May 21 2015, 09:09 PM |
ShiMACHaze Group: Advanced Members Posts: 19,542 Member No.: 5,394 Joined: Feb 5th 2005 Location: Drydock | Absolutely not. |
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Smikey | Posted on May 21 2015, 09:11 PM |
dafuq Group: FORUM MAYOR Posts: 4,161 Member No.: 14,329 Joined: Nov 10th 2005 Location: Update Profile | Nope. Perry is the owner. He is the King. He is the ShotCaller. He is El Chapo. He can do what he wants with the Admin Team. This is his house. We are all guests. This post has been edited by Smikey on May 21 2015, 09:12 PM |
Saint | Posted on May 21 2015, 09:15 PM |
The 6th Blameless Shift Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,720 Member No.: 2,067 Joined: Jun 21st 2004 Location: The Other Side | Ah shit, tried to vote no but clicked yes by accident. Sorry. I'd say no because the site belongs to its owner. He can do whatever the hell he damn well pleases, although that also includes allowing 'democracy'. |
Meteor | Posted on May 21 2015, 11:35 PM |
Were you expecting something else? Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,921 Member No.: 20,929 Joined: Oct 14th 2006 Location: Some place in South-East Asia | To be honest, I'm not sure if we'd have all that many people voting if we did hold polls for the admin spot. I don't see any major problems with how things are currently done though. I don't know about all of IDW history, but the last few admins appointed certainly haven't been bad, there hasn't been any sort of warnhammer/banhammer 40k abuse either, and any such abuse probably won't happen in the near future either because the current system here doesn't really allow for it. So far I'm thinking having the owner and mod team determine this site's administration will continue to work good enough. However, if the owner and mod team did end up finding more than one appropriate candidate for the spot, I guess then holding elections would definitely make it easier to pick who the admin would be. Voting "other" then. |
Cecilia | Posted on May 22 2015, 12:24 AM |
Easy to please. Since day one. Group: Advanced Members Posts: 948 Member No.: 31,385 Joined: Dec 19th 2008 Location: Ames, IA | Perry's vote is the only vote that counts anyway. He owns the site after all. I don't even know why there was a vote to begin with. If it were my site, I'd want to appoint admins myself. I'd place people I trust in those positions. So a big fat 'no' from me. [ Post made via Mobile Device ] |
Falbere | Posted on May 22 2015, 01:25 AM | ||
Back from the dead, baby Group: IDP Admin Posts: 1,327 Member No.: 43,254 Joined: Mar 31st 2014 Location: Singapore | I don't see a reason to have us choose who to rule us anyway. Everything works out fine as of now. There is no need to change. EDIT:
Woaw, it you want some troll "accidentally" deleting everybody's post and change my name to "qwertyuiop", sure! This post has been edited by Falbere on May 22 2015, 01:28 AM | ||
SgtXDNX | Posted on May 22 2015, 03:08 AM |
Goddamn Electric Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,129 Member No.: 23,073 Joined: Feb 2nd 2007 Location: Fort Kickass | Have the admins/mods be chosen by Herr Perry and the rest of the team, but there's a bunch of complaints against one of the chosen few (within a staffing context, not just "I don't like X because Y") that's been put forward, take that into consideration and re-evaluate their place on the team. Best of democracy and autocracy right there. |
APX | Posted on May 22 2015, 08:46 AM |
Join the Empire today! Or die, rebel scum! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 13,455 Member No.: 1,473 Joined: Mar 18th 2004 Location: Update Profile | I voted, so that's that. |
Rudy | Posted on May 22 2015, 09:30 AM |
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Pikachu_Fragger | Posted on May 22 2015, 10:10 AM |
Cock Blockula Group: Members Posts: 393 Member No.: 27,803 Joined: Dec 14th 2007 Location: Azusa, CA | Yes, because full on democracy has been working great in general for the world so far.[/sarcasm] But I digress. Jake pretty much said it correctly. While popular opinion is a good way to see how one is viewed in the community, it must be considered alongside the actual actions that said admin/mod takes. Our little online community is too small in the scope of things to consider full blown democracy (especially since the only voices you'll ever hear at this rate are those of the active posters, and you may never get to hear the opinions of the newbies either because they don't want to be lambasted speaking up or because they don't really care either way, so we're back to square one on that point), and it becomes a mere popularity contest. And frankly, I hate popularity contests when they decide how the place is going to be run. This falls more under other instead of full out no. |
Spaz | Posted on May 23 2015, 10:34 AM |
Just a guy towing a car across the country to chase a dream. Group: FORUM MODERATOR Posts: 9,272 Member No.: 30,193 Joined: Jul 25th 2008 Location: Plymouth, MN | A popularity contest does not a good site staff roster make. If you need any proof, look at the consistent results of the forum awards for who should be a mod... Consistent top finishers are generally people who don't want a position or would not be a good fit for various reasons, no offense to them. Those who have been a good fit that have made it high onto that list generally end up making the roster regardless, so in a sense popular opinion has been taken into account, whether intentionally or if it just happened naturally. |
kyonpalm | Posted on May 23 2015, 11:43 AM | ||
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You realize those are always joke votes, right? | ||
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Tessou | Posted on May 23 2015, 11:53 AM |
More NEGATIVE than a black hole Group: ADMINISTRATOR Posts: 19,345 Member No.: 12,263 Joined: Sep 12th 2005 Location: Update Profile | Yet that category is the one that anybody seriously vies for. Look at the results, who campaigned for it, and who carries the badge for their trouble. The awards may be a joke for the most part, but it's still a good indicator of trends and opinion. |
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kyonpalm | Posted on May 23 2015, 12:30 PM | ||
Professional Amateur Group: ADMINISTRATOR Posts: 10,568 Member No.: 30,882 Joined: Oct 16th 2008 Location: Laniakea |
I completely disagree, but there's no real way to prove either point without asking every voter if they were being serious, so I'll stand by what I said while leaving it at that. | ||
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Rudy | Posted on May 23 2015, 03:37 PM |
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Tessou | Posted on May 23 2015, 04:12 PM |
More NEGATIVE than a black hole Group: ADMINISTRATOR Posts: 19,345 Member No.: 12,263 Joined: Sep 12th 2005 Location: Update Profile | I do not make mod team slot decisions. Perry is and always has been the sole authority on who he wishes to govern the site, except in rare circumstances where I or previous admins were given express authority to do so. I advise Perry on options, he comments (agree, disagree, skeptical), and then we share the results with the mod team for their input. It's a long process. Altering the team in any way can take months of careful work, and a misstep can end the process entirely. In the past, there were instances where people were thrown onto the team without warning, with sometimes disastrous results. It's very risky to add somebody that would only cause chaos with existing staff due to existing rifts, or refuses to work as a team. Ultimately, Perry's idea of what the site is going to be, is going to be. Right now we're in what he refers to as an archival mode. I can only say right now that the site and staff may see some changes within the next month or so, but there is nothing concrete at the moment. Some of the more intriguing comments from this and other recent threads have been met with a PM earlier today that the recipients are hopefully very happy about. Don't just take it as "oh, it's more Tessou blowing smoke". You will have a formal response to this thread from the man himself in the near future. |
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Möbius | Posted on May 23 2015, 04:49 PM |
IDW Top Poster Group: Advanced Members Posts: 33,844 Member No.: 3,524 Joined: Oct 2nd 2004 Location: Update Profile | I don't even know why this made it to a poll. Of course not. |
Rudy | Posted on May 23 2015, 06:21 PM |
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