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> Honda CR-Z, The CRX's green, fatter baby brother
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Posted: Jan 11 2010, 07:00 PM


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http://jalopnik.com/5445212/honda-cr+z-122...t-of-all-worlds

Hmm...only 33 mpg and a 122 hp...thirsty for a hybrid and a bit under powered to be quick (Honda was marketing this to be the first hybrid sports car after all). The numbers are nearly identical to the Fit and Yaris.

It should be a decent city car though, maximum torque @ 1k (even though it only has about 123 ft-lbs) and should handle well (as it weighs about 2600 lbs).

It's good that they are trying to put some affordable fun into green motoring but I would hold out for a later version that will be probably more fuel efficient and quicker.

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Posted: Jan 11 2010, 07:07 PM


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It's just like the old CRX. For some reason, the CR-Z Draws me in like how the CRX Did with it's odd styling.

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Posted: Jan 11 2010, 07:12 PM


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they shoda named it the insight and gave the big insight another name. as it looks alot like the previous insight.
i caught a glimpse of a test mule a while back, and it certainly isnt ugly in person.
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Posted: Jan 11 2010, 07:14 PM


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such an appropriate macro for such a disappointing shitpile of a vehicle. Good move Honda, good move.

Meh, here's to hoping bisimoto get a hand on one...because you know what they did to their last hybrid...

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Let's hope they make a time attack/circuit racer out of a gutted and built one of these.


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Posted: Jan 11 2010, 07:19 PM


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You don't need a f**kin' hybrid to get those kind of numbers, any conventional subcompact car can achieve that efficiency...

Honda engineers screwed up somewhere
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Posted: Jan 11 2010, 07:25 PM


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An all-original CRX can do better in the MPG arena than that slug...once again proving the inneficency of Hybrids once again. smile.gif
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Posted: Jan 11 2010, 07:40 PM


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Get your head out of your ass and build a Diesel already, Honda.

Signed, Midnight Drifter.
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Posted: Jan 11 2010, 07:45 PM


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QUOTE (Midnight Drifter @ 5 minutes, 11 seconds ago)
Get your head out of your ass and build a Diesel already, Honda.

Signed, Midnight Drifter.

Push Schwarzie to lift the rule. dry.gif And the fact that I kind of like VW's TDI engine better.

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Posted: Jan 11 2010, 07:48 PM


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If Honda built a diesel, you wouldn't be saying that. ;3
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Posted: Jan 11 2010, 08:33 PM


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QUOTE (Midnight Drifter @ 45 minutes, 13 seconds ago)
If Honda built a diesel, you wouldn't be saying that. ;3

It has happened. CTD-i with most of their Accords in Third-world countries. It sounds like a gas, but can it perform like one while retaining the great MPG rating? wink2.gif
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Posted: Jan 11 2010, 08:57 PM


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QUOTE (JZX100 @ 24 minutes, 13 seconds ago)
It has happened. CTD-i with most of their Accords in Third-world countries. It sounds like a gas, but can it perform like one while retaining the great MPG rating? wink2.gif

As long as it nails 60 inside 10 seconds and gets 50+ MPG, I'm all for it.
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Posted: Jan 12 2010, 09:15 AM


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Oh man it makes me laugh how terrible the numbers are on this thing. I knew it was going to be an enormous failure since the moment i saw it.

Now watch it be adopted by the honda community as the next sliced bread.
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Posted: Jan 12 2010, 09:54 AM


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The car looks relatively cool from the inside out, but those performance and gas mileage numbers are a huge disappointment. If they're trying to appeal to the "green" crowd, it's not going to work with those EPA figures. Granted, IMA does match Toyota's Hybrid Synergy Drive in real world performance, but the average car buyer only looks at the EPA figures since that's what's on the window sticker! Now if Honda is trying to appeal to the enthusiasts, they fail pretty hard on that front too. Anemic power plant, iffy suspension, and it's pretty darn heavy for what it's trying to accomplish. It's only saving grace in the performance department is the 6 speed manual that comes standard. I find it very hard to imagine this thing selling well at all.

@Drifter: Honda does make a diesel. It just doesn't exist in the states. For some odd reason, it won't meet US emissions standards in automatic form and they just haven't bothered fixing it and would prefer not to use Urea injection like BMW or Mercedes.

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Posted: Jan 12 2010, 09:55 AM


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God those hybrids suck. I would've loved that CR-Z if it would've had K20A under it's hood.

Diesel's are great in MPG but I hate their smell and sound. Also becouse they don't rev high I don't like them biggrin.gif
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Posted: Jan 12 2010, 09:57 AM


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QUOTE (ddr_hero @ 41 minutes, 32 seconds ago)
Oh man it makes me laugh how terrible the numbers are on this thing. I knew it was going to be an enormous failure since the moment i saw it.

Now watch it be adopted by the honda community as the next sliced bread.

If you're thinking these go faster, just think, and do a facepalm. This wasn't meant to go fast like a tuned-up EF, it's just for some driving fun and an A-to-B car.
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Posted: Jan 12 2010, 09:58 AM


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QUOTE (JZX100 @ 1 minute, 23 seconds ago)
If you're thinking these go faster, just think, and do a facepalm. This wasn't meant to go fast like a tuned-up EF, it's just for some driving fun and an A-to-B car.

Why do you always use "facepalm" in sentences. That shit died out like, last year.

As for the car, it's ugly, stick a normal Civic nose on it and I might like it.

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Posted: Jan 12 2010, 10:25 AM


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QUOTE (MattW @ 26 minutes, 19 seconds ago)
As for the car, it's ugly, stick a normal Civic nose on it and I might like it.

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Posted: Jan 12 2010, 05:50 PM


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QUOTE (MidnightViper88 @ Yesterday, 10:19 PM)
You don't need a f**kin' hybrid to get those kind of numbers, any conventional subcompact car can achieve that efficiency...

Honda engineers screwed up somewhere

Exactly, 33mpg isn't exactly something to write home about. Doesn't any Civic beat that?
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QUOTE (Midnight Drifter @ Yesterday, 7:40 PM)
Get your head out of your ass and build a Diesel already, Honda.

Signed, Midnight Drifter.

They do build diesels, they just dont sell them here, though they should. Everyone should instead of building these stupid hybrids.
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Posted: Jan 12 2010, 06:05 PM


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QUOTE (flohtingPoint @ 5 minutes, 31 seconds ago)
They do build diesels, they just dont sell them here, though they should. Everyone should instead of building these stupid hybrids.

They are making money off the ignorance of the average NA car buyer.

Pretty much every manufacturer builds small diesels, but only VW sells them in NA. sad.gif
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Posted: Jan 12 2010, 06:13 PM


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QUOTE (Apex Carver @ 23 minutes, 9 seconds ago)
Exactly, 33mpg isn't exactly something to write home about. Doesn't any Civic beat that?

They do, at the expense of the performance. My DB1 Teg only made a paltry 25 MPG, B18B motor.
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QUOTE (JZX100 @ 1 minute, 40 seconds ago)
They do, at the expense of the performance. My DB1 Teg only made a paltry 25 MPG, B18B motor.

So you are comparing a car that is over 15 years old to a brand new hybrid? confused2.gif
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Posted: Jan 12 2010, 06:48 PM


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QUOTE (Apex Carver @ 33 minutes, 6 seconds ago)
So you are comparing a car that is over 15 years old to a brand new hybrid? confused2.gif

OH FU---- >_<

Still, their Hybrids usually suck, since...

Ok, there's two pies, one that saves fuel and one that instantly gives you OVER 9000 BHP!! Though you're only allowed to pick one. That's kind of how Honda is.
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Posted: Jan 12 2010, 09:17 PM


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...except that second one was replaced with this.
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Ugh...calling it next; Civic Si will be dead for a CR-V hybrid street Custom with 20-inch rims.
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Posted: Jan 12 2010, 09:22 PM


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This Honda CR-Z isn't half bad looking, especially in the pictures that the OP posted.

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