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> Leo's R32 GT-R shrine [Update:MFT settings linked], here be my settings.
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Posted: Feb 19 2007, 01:30 AM


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I did. though, now I use G25. cool.gif wink2.gif it's more precise tool for that purpose. I'll post my MR setup today as well.
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So how'd the test go, or have you not done it yet ?

And @ SKYLINE_32, best thing to do is learn how to 'work' the gears, if the revs drop too low, downshift and stay there until you start bumping the rev limiter, then shift back up, or if you shift down and imediatly hit the limiter, try introducing a form of Eraser to it to get those revs a little higher
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QUOTE (Kurei @ Today at 6:40 AM)
So how'd the test go, or have you not done it yet ?

AYC and R3's were the only thing that kept the car on the road. also, the setup info was incomplete, for example, I needed racing intercooler and engine balancing. also, I didn't do any weight reductions, and no downforce either since it wasn't mentioned. I took the aids off, because they always slow me down.

it is fast indeed, hitting 0'56, but 0'55 or lower are possible with some adjustments. the car was indeed squirming like eel in corners, mainly because of AYC, and even that didn't hide the tendency of understeering (caused by bit too stiff suspension, obvious when going over rumble strips. it also shuddered in corners.) all the time. due the nervous behaviour, the driving was not so relaxed and I couldn't concentrate on the lines because I tried to keep the car on the track. I'd say that this is 7+, 7½/10 car. some more time with finetuning will help this car to achieve it's true potential.

I'll update my MR rocket in this post after getting some pics of it.

Toyota MR2 1600 G-Limited SC'86 by MFT (6.2 miler)

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weight: 1005 kg
hp: 165bhp
torque: 213nm

modifications: weight reduction stage 1, port polish, engine balancing, racing computer chip, racing brakes, brake balance controller, sports soft tyres, racing suspension, triple plate clutch, racing flywheel, 1-way LSD

BBC: 5/3

SR: 3.5/5.0
RH: 105/110
DBS: 4/6
DBRS: 6/8
camber: 2.5/2.0
toe: 0/3
Stab: 2/5

No flashy wing, no NOS, no race spec slicks.. This car is a sleeping beauty. It could handle even more power, but that would compromise the corner exit speed. both grip and drift are easily done with this setup. enjoy, and please, test and comment.

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QUOTE (FinToy-83 @ Today at 8:07 AM)
AYC and R3's were the only thing that kept the car on the road. also, the setup info was incomplete, for example, I needed racing intercooler and engine balancing. also, I didn't do any weight reductions, and no downforce either since it wasn't mentioned. I took the aids off, because they always slow me down.

it is fast indeed, hitting 0'56, but 0'55 or lower are possible with some adjustments. the car was indeed squirming like eel in corners, mainly because of AYC, and even that didn't hide the tendency of understeering (caused by bit too stiff suspension, obvious when going over rumble strips. it also shuddered in corners.) all the time. due the nervous behaviour, the driving was not so relaxed and I couldn't concentrate on the lines because I tried to keep the car on the track. I'd say that this is 7+, 7½/10 car. some more time with finetuning will help this car to achieve it's true potential.

I'll update my MR rocket in this post after getting some pics of it.

Toyota MR2 1600 G-Limited SC'86 by MFT (6.2 miler)

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weight: 1005 kg
hp: 165bhp
torque: 213nm

modifications: weight reduction stage 1, port polish, engine balancing, racing computer chip, racing brakes, brake balance controller, sports soft tyres, racing suspension, triple plate clutch, racing flywheel, 1-way LSD

BBC: 5/3

SR: 3.5/5.0
RH: 105/110
DBS: 4/6
DBRS: 6/8
camber: 2.5/2.0
toe: 0/3
Stab: 2/5

No flashy wing, no NOS, no race spec slicks.. This car is a sleeping beauty. It could handle even more power, but that would compromise the corner exit speed. both grip and drift are easily done with this setup. enjoy, and please, test and comment.

really? i ran consistant 54s with the evo. btw im loving the brakes
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did you have full weight reductions and downforce? that could explain..
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Dang it !, i knew i forgot something, i'll update everything as soon as i finish doing some work on it, look for it in this post sometime today, sorry for forgeting stuff pinch2.gif
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it's alright. if you think that I was bit unforgiving now, imagine what I would had said if i would had left the aids on.. whistling.gif

"this censored2.gif censored2.gif piece of censored2.gif doesn't want to make a single censored2.gif ing turn for censored2.gif s sake!"

I'd say that you were lucky laugh2.gif

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QUOTE (FinToy-83 @ Today at 11:48 AM)
did you have full weight reductions and downforce? that could explain..

i ran a 54 without weight reduction but I did have downforce.

I tested both cars at el capitan. Both cars were very quick although I still need some more time to get used to the GT-R.

El capitan race circuit normal.
Kurei's EVO JGTC Proto- 1'37.xxx
Fin toy's GT-R R32- 1' 40.xxx
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Ok lets try this again shall we ? laugh.gif

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Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII GSR '03 - Black with Rays "024" rims And Spoiler Number "3D Type DB"

504HP rated on dyno (setup menu)
Current Tsukuba record: 0'52.591

Part list: Racing exhaust, Race brakes & controller, Port polish, Engine Balance, Racing Chip, Full cust. Tranny, Triple Plate clutch, Racing Flywheel, Full LSD, Carbon driveshaft, Stg.2 Turbo, Sports intercooler, Full Cust. (Racing) Suspension, R3 tires, Full weight reduction

Settings: NO AIDS
Brake balance controller: 5/5
Spring rate: 7.8/8.1
Ride height: 100/100
Shock Bound: 3/4
Shock Rebound: 4/5
Camber: 3.6/1.8
Toe: -1/0
Stab's: 4/4
Transmission: Auto 6
Downforce: 30/25
LSD: F - 10/20/20 l R - default

Once again purpose-built for Tsukuba, adapt the Tranny for different courses, dont be too hard on it or its potential won't shine, be gentle, yet demanding wink2.gif

Hope i got everything this time, i got to get off for now, i'll test your MR Fin in the meantime

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Posted: Feb 19 2007, 08:48 PM


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Kurei I gave your EVO and set-up a run at Tsukuba and ran a 51.840. It's tail happy under braking and pushes on the way out of turns. I made the changes below and ran a 51.167. It can drop some more time with them too. Give them a try I think you like them.

Brake Control 5/5
Ride Height 100/100
Wing 30/25
Front Diff 10/20/20

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now it worked better. The car was calmer to drive, but cutting the corners still caused loss of traction. abyways, I got all the way down to 0'53.7, which is satisfying achievement.

but doesn't AYC and LSD cancel eachothers out? atleast they can not be active at the same time..?

and I have probably the reason why my beloved 'R' is slower: it has less torque (580 versus 630), and it's bit heavier (about 50 kg). and that setup was made for fast tracks, not for Tsukuba.. maybe later today I have tome to create a setup for Tsukuba. Or Then I'll pull out MFT's secret trackday weapon, the ultimate R32..

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FinToy-83 I only played around a little with the setting. I was tring not to change to many things. First the braking then the exit push and maxed the wings but leaving the same gap front to back.

With AYC you can only change the front diff as the rear is used by the AYC and will change with your front diff setting.

I have ran a 45.4xx with a full tuned(stage 4 and R5's) R34 VspecII Nur at Tsukuba with TSM set at 1. Some day need to put the org turbo on it and see how it runs.
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Man... at this rate, I may actually try making my variation as well... >_< Can I try it as well? I may want some comments about my set-ups...
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sure, go ahead. I'm just trying to max-out my VSII at GVS. in-team challenge, you see. we, underdogs, drive 509/510bhp R32's, and the rest of team uses lower powered R33's and R34's because they have torque advantage. then again, we have weight advantage. this far, we're in the lead.. cool.gif

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EDIT:

Here goes..

BMW M3 CSL by Outlaw-2

Race version... 492BHP
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Tsukuba Circuit time: 0'53'229

Modifications...
-Triple Plate Clutch
-Sports flywheel
-Full customise lsd
-full customise suspension
-full customise transmission
-carbon driveshaft
-racing brakes
-racing brake controller
-R3 tyres
-ALL Weight reduction
-NA stage 3
-Sports ECU
-Engine balancing
-port and polish
-racing muffler
-3D Type DB rear spoiler...
-oil change

Settings...
Suspension: 14.4/12.6
Ride Height: 84/84
Shocks (BOTH) : 8/8
Camber angle: default
Toe: default
Stabiliser: 5/5

Brakes: 7/6

LSD: 10/50/5

Transmission: Final Gear: 3.620, Auto set to 16

downforce: 15/18
NO AIDS USED

Nurburgring version... 492BHP
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Tsukuba Circuit time: 0'53'687

Modifications: Same as above

Settings...
Suspension: 9.0/7.6
Ride Height: 85/85
Shocks (BOTH) : 5/5
Camber angle: default
Toe: default
Stabiliser: 4/4

Brakes: 4/4

LSD: 10/40/20

Transmission: Final gear: 3.620, Auto set to 17

downforce: 15/20

Aids: 11/12/7

When running at Nurburgring for the nurburgring version, do use R1tyres...

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nice. I'll see if i can find time to test it. but there's one thing I can tell already: that car is too low for Nurb..
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I'll test your adaption to my evo when i get off the comp later stidriver

Meanwhile, i tested your MR Fin-toy, and i gotta say, i wouldn't mind owning it irl, its a great daily driver / track day fun car. i took it Autumn ring and it performed well, definatly a keeper for a day where you just want to relax

Maybe i'll test your bee'mer also Outlaw

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QUOTE (FinToy-83 @ Today at 10:13 AM)
nice. I'll see if i can find time to test it. but there's one thing I can tell already: that car is too low for Nurb..

Well, the average time around the Nurburgring in a race averages about 7'10'xxx to 7'20'xxx. I had to compromise some of the suspension , else, I'll be bouncing all over the bumps and uneven surfaces... Maybe I'll try doing a 'comfort' car.
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I tested the 'Race' version at Tsu and got a 0'52.xxx, so its not bad, but it could be much better

You need to tweak the Suspension to pull out the full potential of it in the corners, and also changing your Downforce to different levels would bring it up a few notch's too, i don't know much about BMW's and tuning them so your on your own there, but just some advice, If it can be adjusted, try adjusting it, don't always leave it at default, unless it works for you there.

Anyway im currently thinking about trying a new addition, but i can't decide which car to do, some idea's i have are the Brembo Evo 5 (or 6, not sure), the Nismo R32, a 3000GT, or some type of FF

*Added EDIT* i tried your variation of my evo stidriver, and the changes did make it calmer, and it runs smoother, i'll update my setup post, thanks happy.gif

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QUOTE (Kurei @ Today at 1:29 PM)
Meanwhile, i tested your MR Fin-toy, and i gotta say, i wouldn't mind owning it irl, its a great daily driver / track day fun car. i took it Autumn ring and it performed well, definatly a keeper for a day where you just want to re-act

and after posting that setup, I did evo model with 225bhp, no other changes.it still corners and turns like a champ, and brakes work just fine. this is the reason why I like MR's. They're so well balanced in most situations. but if you're driving it like a moron, it'll either understeer to kittylitter or snap back and bite your butt off. with downforce, full modifications and R1's it's able to beat tuner challenge in professional events. with mere 240bhp it might not shine on straights, but in the corners it leaves others bite its dust.

and I suggest doing 3000GT. Nismo R32 is notorious for it's racecar like stiffness and stubborn understeer. besides, the lack of torque and high-revving nature of the engine make it difficult to drive. and still, my friend clocked 1'47.xxx around GVS with it. blink.gif

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FinToy-83 Ran your MR2 nice setup. The car has a little suspension chatter at the limit. I played around a little with the suspension to remove it and did. But my change slow the car down some. I may play with it some more later.
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Well its seems that i've lost motivation to tune anything new, no clue why, i was looking around and found the Audi Le mans Quattro, and i thought that would make a bad*ss German TA car, but it turns out to be quite the opposite, heh...

Then i thought "why not try a light-weight low-power car like that MR?", so...

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I decided to try the Cap as i have never tried it before, and its a fun little car to get crazy with, but nothing special, so that sorta put its own flame out

Then i just went to Autumn ring with my Impreza just to cruise, tinker'd a little, and what do you know, i find myself in the middle of a break-through with it, so now im preoccupied with it, so idk when i'll put out another tuner

But whenever i do it might be a FF, im looking for something interesting to tune, not just another High-profile, already done sports car
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if a hint is allowed, try Lupo GTi. that car is hard to beat stock vs stock, even with 6.2 mile Civic VTi that has 177bhp vs Lupo's 125ish.. and if you like bigger displacements, Fiat Punto Abarth won't let you down.
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Ohoho! what's this?

I might want to try out that evo setup as I have recently been trying to get my evo to corner faster. I might also post my Lancer EX 1800 for fun, just because it's what I used to ride in on the way to elementary 3rd grade.
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QUOTE (Di3S3L @ Today at 3:44 AM)
I might also post my Lancer EX 1800 for fun

ROFL! I have done ultimate chav-edition of it.. black, chrome rims, huuge wing, high rear, low front, everything as stiff as possible.. talk about undriveable.. whistling.gif

I also did the rest of power modifications to my MR2 (247bhp), and it's still just as fun to drive with same setup as earlier. I also did the rest of the weight reductions.

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