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thnx!

what ??????? Keiichi Tsuchiya ???? waaaaa !!!, he is truly the "Dorikin", man that guy is so talented ....

i saw the film but i didnt know it was him driving that trueno

it would be so awesome if keiichi made a appearance in ID. Bunta Fujiwara vs Keiichi Tsuchiya...the battle of all battles....

Front wheel drive cars cannot drift. You cannot heel toe in a FWD car.

which would mean controlling your line using the ebrake and footbrake, which just slows you down.

it would be faster to take corners at the optimal grip speed.

You can Heel and Toe any manual transmission car, all professional racers do it. An important note: Heel and toe does not equal drift. It's a way to shave off ~0.5 sec off your lap times, it doesn't necessarily involve oversteer.

I'm not sure about ur phrase 'FF can't "drift"' watch the video mentioned in my other post.

Can you accelerate around a corner while "drifting" in a FWD car?

the most common form of "drifting" is the powerslide. while not the same thing, its close enough for most people.

Powersliding is caused by breaking the rear tires loose during a corner by accelerating past their grip. Thus you can exceed the speed you could normally take the corner while "grip driving"

When in a FWD car you for any reason break the rear tires loose, you will oversteer unless you continue accelerating. Unfortunately when you pull the handbrake, most of your car stops rolling and starts dragging.. Thus slowing you down.

I dont care what the video you see shows. its simple logic.

When you see someone pull the handbrake to make a tight turn, then accelerate out of it.. they are NOT drifting. they're using oversteer to pivot the rear of their car around the front tires.

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When you see someone pull the handbrake to make a tight turn, then accelerate out of it.. they are NOT drifting. they're using oversteer to pivot the rear of their car around the front tires.

E-brake is evil

it's not like i have never been drive a FF car b4, i actually had 4 of my own, and 2 of 'em were civics. not that i have anything against honda, but just that i realized they suck, especially on the body frame and transmittion. i've tried every single way to drift on a FF, even my 00 celica gts, but it just doesn't work for sh*t. but i could easily drift on my friend's rx7. the most a FF can do is just the powerslide, if i would have tried to drift on a FF car, i would probably fall off the cliff with it's powerslide on those canyon roads.

i strongly doubt that Neo Vash knows anything about drifting, and i don't believe he's a good driver, cause anyone with the right mind would know that physics can't be bent. and driving relates to lots of physics, if he thinks physics can be bent, then it just made my point. HE'S JUST SOME HONDA FAN THAT DOESN'T KNOW SH*T.

since i've tried to drift with all my FFs and all they gave me was just the powerslide, i wouldn't even stick with it anymore since i love drifting so much. i think i'd be better off with getting a skyline gts instead. *Remember, it's not an FF layout otherwise it won't DRIFT*

does anyone know any good place to drift at night in Southern CA? cause there's cops everywhere. I don't know 2 canyon roads that don't have cops.

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HE'S JUST SOME HONDA FAN THAT DOESN'T KNOW SH*T.

that was kinda taking it east, wasn't it?

FF Blows, has it ever accured to you that you dont know what the hell your talking about? and saying that iam just some honda fanboy? sigh. I could care less if you had 10 FF and couldnt drift them. Like i said before, it takes alot more skill to drift a FF then a FR. And to say that I'am a honda fanboy, then yes your correct, I am a fan of hondas. I do think that they are a great quality of cars. Like the NSX(wich is a Honda) the S2000, the Integra. Thier all great cars. But i also adore RX7's, Skylines, Supras ect... If you want me to call you something then your a FR FAN BOY you lil piece of shit. thier happy?

how about we not label anyone?
calling you ryosuke wannabe wouldn't be very nice now would it? hehe jus an example

Maybe you don't know what your talking about Neo Vash, from what I recall, you can't even drive.......

would all you ricers [with the exception of ryosuke] stop calling rear wheel drive cars FR

FR means front mount motor, rear wheel drive. commonly said in a sentence like "it has a FR drivetrain"

the difference isnt FF vs FR its FWD vs RWD.

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would all you ricers [with the exception of ryosuke] stop calling rear wheel drive cars FR

Well what the hell? All FF cars have a front engine, I can't even think of a single front wheel drive car that doesn't. FR and MR are WAY different, so thats why they call them FR and MR, and not just "RWD". Your just a shmuck, thats all.

a question...

before ppl said that ff cars can't drift cause using the handbrake is not considered a drift... then how come there's a term "Emergency Brake Drift"
it's even on this site itself and almost everywhere else

"This technique is very basic, pull the E-Brake or (side brake) to induce rear traction loss and balance drift through steering and throttle play. (note: this can also be used to correct errors or fine tune drift angles)."
-http://www.geocities.com/go2iddrift

Thats a technique used for high speed slides IMO, once you pull that E-brake and start sliding, you little to no control, there's no way to correct it once you start it.

But, if you start a dift to soon you can pull the E-brake to get it sliding sideways more, but this isn't a very common technique, and it takes mad skills to use properly.

well then the e-brake is just for corrections?
and wouldn't that cause a much slower exit?

Not really, because you actualy gain speed when you lock your tires up. Like I said before, thresh-hold braking is a MUST!

Jayson mabe you cant recall things to great ;] because iam pretty sure that i can and do drive everyday. And ryosuke, learn the definition of a RICE BOY faggot. liking a car dosent make you a RICE BOY, its what you do to your car that makes you one stupid. Your probrably a little faggot who puts a nice sound systems, 20s, some strobes, neons, light up things, lights under your 5ince drop car were you cant even see the lights and your F**k up your car every time you go over a speed bump. i bet i described your car perfectly, huh.