I first saw this at autoblog.com, but lately I've been questioning their reporting, so I decided to get a better source. I know that the autoblog.com article was in the AE86 Mark II thread, but it was closed right after this story was posted. Since this is a more reputable source I kinda wanted to comment on it, because it is quite the update.

Here is the AP story.

http://www.boston.com/business/articles/20...y_mull_new_car/

This seems that it will not have a weak ass 1.5 liter but a 2.0 liter H4 from a subby. Wait a minute! Is that not the engine that was in the first gen USDM WRX? Was that engine not turbocharged? Am I getting a little too excited? The answer is yes to all.

This post has been edited by vwboyaf1 on Jun 11 2012, 11:05 PM

A turbocharged 2.0 liter car for $16,780? I'll believe that when I see it. Although offering it in the higher trim levels might be a possibility...

Your forgeting the USDM tariffs. The car will probably be about 20,000. Maybe it won't be turbocharged either. That would save money. All the the toyota gearheads will have to call up their suburu gearhead friends and get help installing their aftermarket turbo kits. There will be peace in the auto world.

Having been a keen student of Toyota's business methods, I was very surprised to hear them buy 8 percent stake into Fuji. Now they are collaborating to build a car? I suppose this is more like what they did with GM and their NUMMI plant and the Pontiac Vibe.

Just curious as to what they would gain out of this.

Sounds interesting...

It also sounds like a future target for ricers.

Please don't say that...



Everytime someone mentions that, it ends up being too true.....

This post has been edited by JZX100 on Aug 26 2007, 11:36 AM

Interesting. It doesn't say 2.0L or turbocharged anywhere in the article, however. I would also like to point out something to you, VW.

The current 2.5L N/A motor makes what, 170 HP? The 2.2L back in the day made about 130. A 2.0L... you see where this is going.

Don't get your hopes up. If it's gonna be cheap, it's probably not going to be turbo. And if it's REALLY going to be cheap, that HP number ain't gonna be too hot either.

^^^yeah, but still...
when they builded the AE86, they didnt put the horsepower idea in their brain...

Man if it’s just a sporty lil car it doesn’t NEED the turbo. Those engines when tuned can choke out nearly 200hp if they’re EJ20s they’re playing with. The turbotax shoots the price up by a good 10k each time anyway.

It’ll at best be an EJ20 on a light body and an econo interior Makes me think of an HX. LOL.

I'm sorry, it's just that it has happened so many times.

mmmmmmmmm.....interesting......

sounds nice and all.....but.......im still going to drop in a BT 20v 4AGE in it

just kidding.......

its funny.......looks like Bunta and Takumi are going to do the fuzion dance and combine the subie and trueno together.....

but........
i dont think the engine will be turbocharged. I mean, wouldnt u guys rather have a high reving N/A car?

i mean i love the sound of turbos too.....but the high pitch of high revs just gives me goose bumps........

Give me 6 months and I'll be giving you video proof of a high-revving EJ20

1.) Come on, don't lie. It's a FACT that slapping a turbo onto an EJ20 is WORLDS cheaper than tuning it as a naturally aspirated engine.

2.) MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!

Mechanically it's cheaper yes, to use turbo parts, but the turbo tax adds about 200% to the value of the finished vehicle Proper balancing and forged internals able to handle high compression will throw out some good figures...not WRX fast but if the car is under a tonne that makes a difference. If it's a car designed for younger audiences...then there we go :3

I'd foresee a slightly better built EJ20 with slightly higher compression pistons (SRX 10.5:1 perhaps) to choke out 165hp+...

It seems we are getting closer to the wet dream. Could there be Impreza/Scion gatherings in the future? Only time will tell.

Here is the latest article of renderings and speculation.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/...ncepts/232133/#

Now I'm sold for that plan.

I want it. I don't care. I want it.

Under 200hp for a turbo 4?

Weaksauce.

You do realize that when the ae86 was released it had a lot of power compared to it's competition and weighed more then much of it. Civic/CRX Si's made what 105hp then and weighed not much around 1900lb's. The 4age was a fantastic engine in it's day.



I'm been loosing faith in this new vehicle being worth a damn for awhile now. What it seems we should expect now would be something like an MRS.. with the engine in the front, less horsepower and more weight.
Last I checked they couldn' event confirmed it to be a 2+2...

I predict this car to be a massive disappointment


Going some rumors it appears as if BMW is making the ae86..


Here's a juicy one. BMW Blog reports that it has two unnamed, independent sources who have spoken of a high-revving (how does 11,000 rpm sit with you?) new four-cylinder being developed for use in the 1-series. The power target of this fantasy mill is said to be 220 to 260 horsepower, and it would theoretically be offered in both naturally aspirated and twin-turbocharged forms.

*yes, it wont be as lightweight as the old ae86, but then again, 3000lb's today is the new 2000lb's from the 80's.. heh :/

This post has been edited by But she looked 18 officer on Apr 9 2008, 12:00 PM

with all the clamor from insurance companies calling for a return to RWD, the possibility of a RWD coupe seems likely. And if this does fall through, then i'm gonna be one of the first people in line to get one =P.

Compact, lightweight, fast RWD sports coupe in 20k $ range? Sounds great to me! Now let's have our fingers crossed for this to happen.

https://idforums.net/index.php?showtopic=30941


I propose a merge with the above topic, but props to you for posting some pictures. I like. Like I said before, if this does go through, then you can bet your ass that I'm gonna be in line waiting to buy one.

Whoops, my bad. I guess i'm blind...

I may hold off on an NC Miata just to see if this coupe is worth it.

God a boxer engine? I hope not.