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razorsuKe | Posted: Apr 30 2007, 04:24 AM |
IDW Goldmember Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,406 Member No.: 12,243 Joined: Sep 12th 2005 Location: Calgary Canada | Feint "Drift" Technically speaking, it is not possible to actually drift in Initial D Arcade Stage. However you can follow the feint motion to achieve higher exit speeds and more fluent turning. The feint was introduced in version 1 and fully utilized by Akina Master Extra HC. The basic concept is still out-in-out except that before approaching the turn from the outside and staying out the whole time, you start on the inside. Figure a1: 1) Approach the turn from the inside lane 2) Swing the car to the outside 3) Turn the car inside. To follow these steps, one should know the timing of the turn back outside, roughly 50-100m depending on the turn. It is important to keep everything else constant meaning normal out-in-out braking at the same time you normally would without feint. This is the biggest problem for people first starting to use this technique, they forget to slow down. If you don't have full understanding and control of out-in-out line, it is not recommended that you try feint yet. Another advantage of following the feint line is that it effectively prevents understeer. Sometimes if the wheels on the machine are not good, they'll shake while your car appears to be going straight, this might cause sudden movements before a corner causing the car to not turn at all for the corner. Feinting keeps most of the car's movements in your control so that understeer will not occur. |
Perry | Posted: Apr 30 2007, 05:09 AM |
Like an eagle! Group: SITE OWNER Posts: 8,014 Member No.: 1 Joined: Sep 15th 2002 Location: San Leandro, California | Figure a1 |
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Tofu*Tuner | Posted: Apr 30 2007, 08:05 AM |
IDW Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 87 Member No.: 24,134 Joined: Apr 23rd 2007 Location: Update Profile | When should i start braking or letting go of acceleration? |
Midnight_Driver | Posted: Apr 30 2007, 10:29 AM |
IDW Full Member Group: Members Posts: 42 Member No.: 19,723 Joined: Aug 22nd 2006 Location: USA, Colorado | If you erased while doing this would it help you gain more speed exiting the turn? could you even erase doing the Feint |
ChaosSoldier | Posted: Apr 30 2007, 10:22 PM | ||
IDW Goldmember Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,157 Member No.: 8,382 Joined: Jun 23rd 2005 Location: Hawaii |
in general, about 1 second before the turn...when you get better you can judge how early or how late you can brake to obtain ideal exit speeds... | ||
ChaosAngel | Posted: Apr 30 2007, 11:36 PM | ||
IDW Spartan #6 Group: Advanced Members Posts: 961 Member No.: 22,883 Joined: Jan 18th 2007 Location: Brisbane, Australia |
thats pretty much TST..... Eraser + Feint + Eraser = TST!!!! | ||
brian_infinispirit | Posted: Jun 29 2007, 01:17 AM |
The Dozuki Master Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,688 Member No.: 20,372 Joined: Sep 21st 2006 Location: Makati City, Metro Manila, Philippines | i was watching some videos i have in my pc these past few days, and i was thinking that "if some of them were able to pull off 2'22's on akagi dh and 259's on iroha dh with no eraser, i think i'm still not good at this game"... i admit, my times are very slow (though some locals say they're fast enough) but at the moment (my times are in my sig, just click the IR links there, some of them aren't my runs though meaning i lent them the cards for them to use) that's the best i can squeeze out of them (i do eraser for most hairpins but i don't do TST)... so as of late, i'm considering constraining myself to use no other tech but feint, maybe i'll be able to find better lines if i undergo that regimen whenever i play... which cars are best suited for this task?... and for those who have undergone this system before, is it worth the effort? i didn't want to make a new topic since it might just get axed and i might get warned, so i had to post my concern here... thanks in advance... ^ ^ This post has been edited by brian_infinispirit on Jun 29 2007, 01:20 AM |
icedagger | Posted: Jun 29 2007, 01:34 AM |
Slowpoke... Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,605 Member No.: 18,773 Joined: Jul 5th 2006 Location: Philippines | Try it with a Cappuccino or a Trueno. IMO those cars respond quite well to simple feinting and braking. This post has been edited by icedagger on Jun 29 2007, 01:35 AM |
RX-7 Spirit fo sho | Posted: Jul 3 2007, 08:58 PM | ||
Bust'a capp in yo @$$ Group: Members Posts: 348 Member No.: 22,580 Joined: Dec 27th 2006 Location: Los Angeles |
very very very well as a matter of fact | ||
thrill3rnit3 | Posted: Jul 18 2007, 04:46 PM | ||
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before you turn to the outside lane? | ||
icedagger | Posted: Jul 18 2007, 06:03 PM | ||
Slowpoke... Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,605 Member No.: 18,773 Joined: Jul 5th 2006 Location: Philippines |
feinting is almost like doing the usual out-in-out line, except you approach on the inside lane and finish the feint motion (moving to the outside) just before you start braking. | ||
thrill3rnit3 | Posted: Jul 18 2007, 07:55 PM |
IDW Special Member Group: Members Posts: 272 Member No.: 19,091 Joined: Jul 23rd 2006 Location: the 818 | do i have to actually brake or can i just ungas? |
icedagger | Posted: Jul 18 2007, 08:04 PM |
Slowpoke... Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,605 Member No.: 18,773 Joined: Jul 5th 2006 Location: Philippines | Depends on the turn. Some turns can be taken with a feint and an ungas, But most of them (like in Iro for instance) will require braking. This post has been edited by icedagger on Jul 18 2007, 08:04 PM |
thrill3rnit3 | Posted: Jul 18 2007, 08:26 PM |
IDW Special Member Group: Members Posts: 272 Member No.: 19,091 Joined: Jul 23rd 2006 Location: the 818 | what's the difference when you do TST? |
icedagger | Posted: Jul 18 2007, 08:50 PM |
Slowpoke... Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,605 Member No.: 18,773 Joined: Jul 5th 2006 Location: Philippines | TST is basically erasing in before feinting and erasing in again. With TST you'll have to start your feint a bit earlier than usual because your car will understeer the feint motion. |
*TAK* | Posted: Aug 7 2007, 02:18 AM |
IDW God Member Group: Members Posts: 176 Member No.: 25,683 Joined: Aug 4th 2007 Location: Malaysia,Penang | At akina do i have to brake or just ungas.and there is some video i`ve seen.he`s very fast at akina.i tried his/her technique but still. |
evo3man | Posted: Aug 20 2007, 10:24 AM |
IDW Member Group: Members Posts: 12 Member No.: 25,954 Joined: Aug 16th 2007 Location: mississauga ont | im still not sure how to do that!! T_T |
*TAK* | Posted: Aug 25 2007, 08:29 AM |
IDW God Member Group: Members Posts: 176 Member No.: 25,683 Joined: Aug 4th 2007 Location: Malaysia,Penang | if you don`t understand how to reconize the 50-100 m to do feint,just see a signboard when play.you all see when you play |
lazybum | Posted: Feb 23 2008, 02:26 AM |
IDW Full Member Group: Members Posts: 37 Member No.: 28,724 Joined: Feb 16th 2008 Location: Singapore | For corners like the first one in akina dh do you brake while gasing or should you use your right foot to brake and do only one at a time? |
icedagger | Posted: Feb 23 2008, 07:58 AM |
Slowpoke... Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,605 Member No.: 18,773 Joined: Jul 5th 2006 Location: Philippines | Don't brake while stepping on the gas. If you need to brake, release the gas pedal and hit the brake. You can do the braking with your right foot, although many people use their left foot so that they can step back on the gas right away if they need to. Oh and you don't need to brake for the "first corner". You can take it full gas. The "first hairpin" is a different story however. To do a proper feint on that hairpin, look for a yellow sign on the left. Approach on the inside, then finish your feint motion as you pass the sign. Off gas and hit the brakes until you've slowed down enough, then release the brakes and "float" the car through into the turn. Hit the gas at the apex, and enjoy your easy 138km/h exit speed with your Trueno. This post has been edited by icedagger on Feb 23 2008, 07:59 AM |
pukpukracer | Posted: Feb 23 2009, 06:43 AM |
IDW Full Member Group: Members Posts: 44 Member No.: 31,801 Joined: Feb 4th 2009 Location: Update Profile | what about the first hairpin on Akina uphill? |
DigiBunny | Posted: Oct 11 2009, 07:16 AM |
Reading is magic! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,601 Member No.: 30,700 Joined: Sep 24th 2008 Location: Philippines | I'm not so clear on how Wheel Jerk Ties into this. Can I get a formal explanation? I think I'm doing it wrong. |
rx8Tech9 | Posted: Nov 2 2009, 07:19 PM |
IDW Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 85 Member No.: 34,241 Joined: Oct 29th 2009 Location: 562, Cali | Any video tutorials of this technique and other techniques as well? I am a visual learner |
JaeMok | Posted: Nov 2 2009, 08:48 PM |
IDW Special Member Group: Members Posts: 292 Member No.: 32,771 Joined: Apr 30th 2009 Location: Fullerton/La Habra, California | go to youtube and type in "initial d guide" You should found a wheel jerk guide vid. |
jun88 | Posted: Nov 3 2009, 04:01 PM |
IDW Regular Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Member No.: 33,122 Joined: Jun 4th 2009 Location: Update Profile | although it seems easy to do but its not that easy...timing,steering control,braking timing n accel back timing is very important...if not,fastest speed n lining cant be perform well... |
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