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> Go-Kart vs Car driving technique
Lonely_Driver
Posted: Nov 28 2014, 06:15 AM


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We have European style electric go Karting here. Very strict rules and are able to hit 70km/h

One of the only Karting places where you need to use full brakes.
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Posted: Dec 8 2014, 07:56 PM


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QUOTE (Rudy @ Nov 23 2014, 07:33 PM)
I'm guessing everyone else only has dealt with gas karts...

I have raced both gas and electric karts at different places. One difference that I can say is that for gas karts, you are on full throttle or not. If you put the pedal halfway, there's a possibility that the engine will guzzle too much gas for its own good (not sure how else to phrase this). Also, I feel that electric karts are easier to control. Personally, I like electric karts because of the ease of access. There's a MB2 Raceway near my house and I go there from time to time.
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Posted: Dec 10 2014, 07:38 AM


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Hey, I've driven high performance Go Karts in the US and Japan and I've always dabbled with performance cars. I did get a pro qualifying lap time at Summit Point in Virginia. This is such a tricky question. The fundamentals of racing are the same but the performance is not. Even though it's small, a Go Kart is 100% set up for racing whereas a typical road car is not. There's also some techinques you can do with a Kart that is difficult with a car. There's also times when you'd take a wider line with a car but with Karts being so friggin light you take a harder inside line to avoid driving too far. That kind of goes against the smoothest line theory. I'd say there's definitely a learning curve. The fundamentals of racing carry over though.

Oh and weight doesn't affect Karts as much as you think. I've seen fat dudes pass me like I was standing still.

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  Posted: Jan 20 2015, 06:00 PM


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here's my gokart onboard video from 22 November 2014

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10203413991614450

feel free to give advice about my driving
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Posted: Jan 21 2015, 07:59 AM


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Go-Kart racing is all about line, which is important in road racing.

But road racing takes it to a whole new level. Acceleration and braking take on whole new meaning in a real car as opposed to a Go-Kart (which is pretty much on-off go-stop). There's also gearing and tire management.

I would relate go karting as shooting around a basketball court, and road racing as playing full court 5 on 5.
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Posted: Jan 21 2015, 09:54 AM


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QUOTE (D33DO_R32)
here's my gokart onboard video from 22 November 2014

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10203413991614450

feel free to give advice about my driving

Well, it's kinda hard to see the course because of the shaky footage and the fact the camera's pointing a bit upwards, so all I can say for sure is that your steering inputs are fairly decent for someone who's starting out. But here's what I could tell from watching that:
.That right-left S-turn before the final corner seems to be the most significant corner in regards to laptimes.
.Your best time through that S-turn seems to have been on the first lap, whereas on the second lap you lost time to steering corrections, and on the next two you seemed to lose time between clearing the right turn and pointing the kart in the right direction for the short straight before the left.
.You tend to take that final corner a bit wide, and could benefit from an earlier turn-in there.

For that particular S-turn, the best approach seems to be something like a fast-in-slow-out going into the right, then immediately accelerating towards the left. Basically, entering the right like you're going for an out-in-out, but slowing down in the middle of the corner so you exit on the inside (or close to it), are already decently lined up for the next turn, and can get on the throttle much earlier and stay on it longer rather than having to wait for the kart to properly line up first. Or at least that's how it seems to me. You also seem to have taken a similar approach here on the first lap. Not making any guarantees here, since I have no sort of experience getting the most out of that sort of kart (or any kart really), but maybe you could give this a try if you get to drive on that course again or end up facing a similar S-turn elsewhere.

And that's about all I could figure out. I don't know if I got everything correct, but hopefully I got enough right for this to be of help to you.
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  Posted: Jan 21 2015, 03:47 PM


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QUOTE (Meteor @ 5 hours, 52 minutes ago)
QUOTE (D33DO_R32)
here's my gokart onboard video from 22 November 2014

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10203413991614450

feel free to give advice about my driving

Well, it's kinda hard to see the course because of the shaky footage and the fact the camera's pointing a bit upwards, so all I can say for sure is that your steering inputs are fairly decent for someone who's starting out. But here's what I could tell from watching that:
.That right-left S-turn before the final corner seems to be the most significant corner in regards to laptimes.
.Your best time through that S-turn seems to have been on the first lap, whereas on the second lap you lost time to steering corrections, and on the next two you seemed to lose time between clearing the right turn and pointing the kart in the right direction for the short straight before the left.
.You tend to take that final corner a bit wide, and could benefit from an earlier turn-in there.

For that particular S-turn, the best approach seems to be something like a fast-in-slow-out going into the right, then immediately accelerating towards the left. Basically, entering the right like you're going for an out-in-out, but slowing down in the middle of the corner so you exit on the inside (or close to it), are already decently lined up for the next turn, and can get on the throttle much earlier and stay on it longer rather than having to wait for the kart to properly line up first. Or at least that's how it seems to me. You also seem to have taken a similar approach here on the first lap. Not making any guarantees here, since I have no sort of experience getting the most out of that sort of kart (or any kart really), but maybe you could give this a try if you get to drive on that course again or end up facing a similar S-turn elsewhere.

And that's about all I could figure out. I don't know if I got everything correct, but hopefully I got enough right for this to be of help to you.

wow...meteor, thanks man..I will try that by the end of the month biggrin.gif

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Does anyone here knows how to drive gokart smoothly? the steering of the gokart is very wild sad.gif
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Posted: Feb 24 2015, 11:02 PM


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How heavy are you? And how powerful are the go-karts you're driving?
Are they competition go-karts? Or just ones you find around at a public karting track? Lots of variables.

I used to hit the local go-kart track quite often before I got into real road racing, and the same concept applies in terms of gas, brake, and steering. Smooth is fast. One motion through the corner will always be the quickest.
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QUOTE (Crono0001 @ 7 hours, 14 minutes ago)
How heavy are you? And how powerful are the go-karts you're driving?
Are they competition go-karts? Or just ones you find around at a public karting track? Lots of variables.

I used to hit the local go-kart track quite often before I got into real road racing, and the same concept applies in terms of gas, brake, and steering. Smooth is fast. One motion through the corner will always be the quickest.

im 68kg on weight, and the gokart is probably just 5hp, its a rental quality gokart. the problem is what kind of steering input that can make the kart smooth and fast constantly. the steering is wild, heavy and vibrating too much.

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Posted: Feb 25 2015, 08:21 AM


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You are driving a non-competitive go-kart probably at a non-competitive vendor.

There's nothing you can do. Find a competitive karting track. 5 Horsepower is a pretty entry level, young adult kart, topping out at around 25mph. Competitive karts go up to 10 hp, max out at 45 mph, and have much better handling.

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