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Jhaqastar | Posted: Apr 27 2013, 10:11 AM |
IDW Member Group: Members Posts: 15 Member No.: 40,716 Joined: Mar 6th 2013 Location: Update Profile | In my opinion Most fun = FR Fastest in perfect conditions = MR Fastest in poor conditions = AWD Or maybe I'm just really biased with RWD >.>... And in a long race, won't the 4WD's tires wear faster while FRs and MRs could more laps before pitting in? |
Banken | Posted: Apr 28 2013, 03:44 AM |
IDW Goldmember Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,110 Member No.: 22,465 Joined: Dec 17th 2006 Location: Japan | On a street car with street tires, 4WD is by far the fastest. On a rally car, 4WD is the fastest (duh). On a track car with track tires, it's kind of a wash between all three, depending on power and weight. But usually at the very very top, 4WD will be the fastest car. On a purpose-built race car with slicks, MR is the fastest. This is not my opinion. It's simply how it is. On a relatively low-powered, light-weight car, FF can (and usually is) be faster than FR. |
Vortrex | Posted: Apr 28 2013, 04:39 AM |
1988 Toyota MR2 AW11, My Go-Kart AE86 Group: Advanced Members Posts: 559 Member No.: 38,745 Joined: Jul 2nd 2012 Location: Huizen, The Netherlands | The best is Mid-engine, four-wheel-drive layout! (I'm Serious) Why are we reviving so old thread??? |
Banken | Posted: Apr 28 2013, 04:09 PM | ||
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That's not the best if you've got enough traction, because then it's just extra weight. | ||
I_guess_Miatas_are_c.. | Posted: Mar 7 2019, 09:25 PM | ||
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I think this sad fact shows just how care for driving and attention has plummeted. If they knew how to drive a car properly, they would prefer oversteer to understeer, because they would be less likely to drift into another lane, go into a wall if breaking heavily, and other stuff. | ||
Nomake Wan | Posted: Mar 8 2019, 06:23 AM |
ShiMACHaze Group: Advanced Members Posts: 19,542 Member No.: 5,394 Joined: Feb 5th 2005 Location: Drydock | IT'S A NEW NECRO RECORD Also if you believe there was a time when everyone on the road was Colin McRae, you're deluding yourself. |
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I_guess_Miatas_are_c.. | Posted: Mar 10 2019, 01:31 AM | ||
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Well I don't believe that. I just believe there was a time when a reasonable amount of people could actually drive more than "go", "stop", and "turn". | ||
Nomake Wan | Posted: Mar 10 2019, 09:49 PM |
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Meteor | Posted: Mar 11 2019, 01:14 AM |
Were you expecting something else? Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,921 Member No.: 20,929 Joined: Oct 14th 2006 Location: Some place in South-East Asia | There was basically never a time where the average driver could drive cars at a moderate-to-advanced level. The most you had was people not needing ABS, but brakes tended to be a lot weaker in the non-ABS days too. People have always only been taught how to get from A to B, and most driving schools just don't teach more than that. It's always mainly been the people racing cars that bothered to know the finer points of car control. What's really changed is that cars started to feel safer. Older cars didn't provide that sort of disconnection from the road, and gave the average person a better sense of where the limits were, so they naturally drove more carefully. Newer cars tend to not give as much road feel and are also much more stable until they hit their limits, and that can make people push them harder than they should. But getting back to what started this discussion, there was never a point where the average driver could handle lift-off-oversteer. As far back as WWII, rear-engined Tatras were famous for killing people, as rear-engined cars love to spin when you step off the gas. Earlier Porsches were also a handful, and newer Porsches gradually had this toned down so that people who weren't race car drivers could actually drive them. The SW20 MR2s also initially had tons of lift-off-oversteer, then Toyota had to make changes to the car because people kept spinning them. Lift-off-oversteer is one of the main things that made older FFs want to spin out, and if most people couldn't handle that in the 30s or 90s, most people certainly can't handle it now. |
Nomake Wan | Posted: Mar 11 2019, 06:53 AM | ||
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Drum brakes all around with no power assist. | ||
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Spaz | Posted: Mar 17 2019, 12:39 PM | ||
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Someone should inform my Silverado of that... 3/4 ton suspension bump steer is REAL. | ||
Nomake Wan | Posted: Mar 17 2019, 02:06 PM | ||
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LOL my family's Dakota without anything in the bed is the same way. Pretty terrifying to drive on bad roads, hahaha. | ||
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vitexia7 | Posted: Jul 2 2019, 12:53 AM |
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