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> Looking for opinions on Windows 10
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Posted: May 31 2016, 01:29 PM


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QUOTE (207 @ 1 hour, 22 minutes ago)
... i do hope by then M$ win 10 has its shit together to be an acceptable option.

That'll never happen because as far as Microsoft is concerned, Win10 already has its shit together for the purpose it was intended for - to be a glorified piece of spyware.
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Posted: May 31 2016, 01:30 PM


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QUOTE (Nomake Wan @ 1 hour, 2 minutes ago)
No, you installed the GWX Control Panel. The GWX App was already installed on your PC by Microsoft. Again, please do try to clarify your terms so as to reduce confusion.

GWX = Get Windows 10. Forced on you by Microsoft.
GWX Control Panel = Application to eradicate Windows 10 and its sneaky crap from your PC

As for Windows 7 updates, its lifetime is slated to end in January 2020. You have time.


You didn't mind it because you didn't know what it was actually doing in the background without your permission before they ever changed the functionality of the 'X' button. If you knew what it had been doing perhaps you would have cared more a lot earlier and we wouldn't be in this mess.


Just some guy with some know-how who hates Windows 10 and its bullshit more than I do. As for your question, you can hide the update and can uninstall the updates without using GWX Control Panel--GWX Control Panel simply gives you a braindead-simple way of doing it.

However, as I mentioned already before, note that even if you do that they will come back every week or so as a 'critical' update through Windows Update, which is why GWX Control Panel has a 'monitor' mode. Personally I screen all my updates so I don't use monitor mode, but the option is there for those who are lazy or who can't understand KB articles.

sorry for using the wrong terminology, its good to know they have another 4 years to get it together should they desire so.

i was only recently made aware it was an additional app and its true that most of the programming behind it was a foreign language to me.

i cant monitor/understand the KB articles so the GWX control panel monitoring is the best route for me. those "critical" updates are sure to frustrate people even more but good to know that they must be vigilant of them.

does KB 3035583 have anything to do with the win 10? its the only important update i have yet to get onto my PC. i read on a YT comment it had something to do with GWX app that's been annoying everyone. i did download the other 7-9 KB XXXXX updates but i was only possibly alerted to KB 3035583.

@kyonpalm: thats too bad for them. they were a decent OS before they got into this spyware crap. spyware or not, the fact they forced so many useless programs on you in win 10 turned me off right away. to be honest, i dont much like the tablet-type hiding bars of tablets or PCs. i like to see where the icons are at all times. it might be a bit more messy but atleast i dont have to probe each corner for the right scroll bar. my aunt has a relatively new laptop with Win 10. it takes a bit to get used to but i see too many changes from win 7 that turn me off it.

i saw that malware remover program on her laptop and got momentarily scared thinking it was on win7 OS only to figure out it win 10. still theres so many new programs that i cant bring myself to trust it.

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QUOTE (207 @ 1 hour, 59 minutes ago)
does KB 3035583 have anything to do with the win 10? its the only important update i have yet to get onto my PC. i read on a YT comment it had something to do with GWX app that's been annoying everyone. i did download the other 7-9 KB XXXXX updates but i was only possibly alerted to KB 3035583.

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Folks called me way back when WinX came out and I did the whole hide update shebang and told them how to keep it off their computer. Now they're thinking of upgrading though and from what I've heard, Microsoft has resolved alot of issues that occurred in its early days. Letting them decide still.

As for my machines; I'm sticking to Windows 7 for as long as it works. My next PC build though, I'm fairly certain now is going to be a Linux machine.
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QUOTE (Nomake Wan @ 52 minutes, 33 seconds ago)
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thank you very much, i will avoid DDl'ing that particular upgrade onto my PC. thankfully i had the OS update setting set early enough to avoid the release of this particular update. i also presume that GWX control panel nullifies this particular KB update??
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Somehow they swapped my update settings to "automatically install updates", which includes a lot of Win10 bullshit. I just removed the lot of it and GWX is no longer on my system.
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thank you very much, i will avoid DDl'ing that particular upgrade onto my PC. thankfully i had the OS update setting set early enough to avoid the release of this particular update. i also presume that GWX control panel nullifies this particular KB update??

It only nullifies it if you have it running in monitor mode. If not you must be personally vigilant, as I've said.

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QUOTE (Nomake Wan @ 15 minutes, 40 seconds ago)
It only nullifies it if you have it running in monitor mode. If not you must be personally vigilant, as I've said.

thank you very much, i just set the monitoring mode on to prevent any extra things from passing onto my PC. do i need to bother with any sort of non critical win 10 settings? i just disabled them to be safe.
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QUOTE (207 @ 1 hour, 12 minutes ago)
thank you very much, i just set the monitoring mode on to prevent any extra things from passing onto my PC. do i need to bother with any sort of non critical win 10 settings? i just disabled them to be safe.

I'm confused as to what you mean. Are you running Windows 10? If you are not running Windows 10, why do you have Windows 10 components on your machine at all? This should be straightforward.

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QUOTE (kyonpalm @ May 30 2016, 04:53 PM)
Apple forces iOS updates when you take your phone in to be serviced. I assume they do the same with their computers.


How does he even use his computer then?

That's news to me, I haven't had them force iOS updates on me personally when I've taken an iPhone in to them nor have I heard about it on the tech sites I frequently visit, maybe it's not a common thing?

Same thing applies to their computers, AFAIK, unless you provide them with an administrator account privileges I am not sure they can even install updates.

With this whole forced updating the OS stuff that Microsoft, I'm surprised that Linux advocates and distributions aren't trying to take of advantage of this stuff and to get eyes on their software.
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QUOTE (Nomake Wan @ Yesterday, 9:03 PM)
I'm confused as to what you mean. Are you running Windows 10? If you are not running Windows 10, why do you have Windows 10 components on your machine at all? This should be straightforward.

no, im still running Win7. its just the extra options that you can block with GWX control panel. im referring to the things you can disable with the GWXcontrol panel ie " 'non-critical windows 10 settings enabled?' the reply to that was that i disabled them."

its the confirmation option/tool just below " are windows 10 upgrades allowed" 4th option down on the right side column of the main GWX control panel screen.
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That's news to me, I haven't had them force iOS updates on me personally when I've taken an iPhone in to them nor have I heard about it on the tech sites I frequently visit, maybe it's not a common thing?

IIRC it's in their policy. I know I had to when I brought my phone in to have the battery replaced.
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