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|Posted by: UmmYeahOk Sep 25 2009, 12:53 PM|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Sep 25 2009, 01:11 PM|
| I hope they also fix the video problem at the end of Second Stage, which I brought up in another thread.
But still, praise to Funimation for getting it.
|Posted by: Rudy Sep 25 2009, 03:29 PM|
|YES! FINALLY! ID WILL BE FIXED! <3|
|Posted by: Hannah Sep 25 2009, 03:31 PM|
|Oh!!! Flippin' SWEET!! I love Funimation!! XD|
|Posted by: BOZZ Sep 25 2009, 04:34 PM|
|This is good news... I do wonder what extras will be on their releases.|
|Posted by: Jehuty77 Sep 25 2009, 05:32 PM|
|Holy Shitola this is awesome!|
|Posted by: kou yuuzhen Sep 25 2009, 05:40 PM|
| when i first saw this i thought they're going to make stage 5
anyway i've never watched dubbed series so i have no idea what funimation does
|Posted by: BOZZ Sep 25 2009, 08:09 PM|
For me it was that "It's coming" thread... It made me think 5th Stage was going to be animated after all...
|Posted by: bighunt Sep 26 2009, 01:01 AM|
| ok. hold up. stupid question: why is this news good? i thought most fans had copies of the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th stages....
will there finally be a 5th stage? a Japanese version hasn't even been produced.
|Posted by: kou yuuzhen Sep 26 2009, 01:12 AM|
no it has nothing to do with stage 5
apparently they're going to do another english dubbing for stages 1-4
|Posted by: GTA Sep 26 2009, 07:26 AM|
| i was more hoping for a 5th stage
But i'll be looking forward to this funimation's fixing.
|Posted by: UmmYeahOk Sep 26 2009, 09:03 AM|
Oh gees! Come on people! Why is it that every time I make a thread everyone comes in here thinking its news about a 5th stage?!? No where in any of my threads do I ever talk about stage 5.
If I ever get news of a stage 5, believe me, I will tell you. In caps, I will put in the title "Stage 5 Coming Soon!" or even discuss it on the stickied thread which is dedicated to stage 5.
The redubbing of Initial D is great news. I know I cant enjoy animation if Im too busy reading subtitles, or vice versa. The original english dub was so terrible that I would never tell anyone I liked the show due to fear that they may assumed that I liked that version. Anytime I suggested the show to someone I had to suggest fansubs because the english one was so bad.
This new dub will be great because more non anime fans will get into the show, and that may lead them to want to experience more anime. j pop and euro beats may become popular. Popular enough that you may heard them in this country, and NOT be listening to your ipod or anime radio. Drifting, or the youth car scene may become bigger (rather than it just be a bunch of old dudes and their hot rods)
This show has potential enough to be on Adult Swim, G4, Spike, even Speed Channel. With the popularity, comes merchandise. Think about all that you could buy... ...things offline at a brick and mortar store that you could buy.
I really believe that this show has that potential. Big enough to be the next pokemon or DBZ. (clearly targeting a different demographic)
|Posted by: bighunt Sep 26 2009, 09:09 AM|
i know dude. i understand that.
my thing is: why do anther dub?
i rather read the subs in the CORRECT language than have a dub version. that's just my opinion.
|Posted by: kou yuuzhen Sep 26 2009, 09:16 AM|
i'm not a dude....... lol
some fans are dissatisfied with the first dub. although i never watch any animes in english, so i've no idea why it was so bad
|Posted by: UmmYeahOk Sep 26 2009, 09:21 AM|
Just watch one episode, just one... ...heck, 5 minutes of tokyopops version and you will understand completely 100% with why a new redub is necessary.
|Posted by: BOZZ Sep 26 2009, 10:37 AM|
The dub is incredibly bad... They changed up the way characters talked (and throwing in stupid attempts at slang), used stupid nicknames, added incredibly bad 80s video effects, used an awful soundtrack which replaced Eurobeat... that's pretty much it right there...
|Posted by: UmmYeahOk Sep 26 2009, 11:48 AM|
|I only watched a few which were free on On Demand, but didnt they also get rid of the whole "Natsuki is a prostitute" bit?|
|Posted by: kyonpalm Sep 26 2009, 11:54 AM|
They kinda played it down, yeah, but not entirely as I recall.
|Posted by: BOZZ Sep 26 2009, 02:42 PM|
Yeah, as Ryo said, it was played down... In the manga, Tokyopop even censored a few bits regarding her....
|Posted by: kyonpalm Sep 26 2009, 02:44 PM|
I know Vol. 1 had some stupid dialogue and innuendo between her and "Papa". I'll post it later...
|Posted by: BOZZ Sep 26 2009, 03:15 PM|
Yeah and there was some nekkid Natsuki in Takumi's thoughts that was edited out in later versions of Volume 1.
|Posted by: Lebon14 Sep 26 2009, 09:55 PM|
|That's excellent news. I would love to see FUNimation release all the soundtracks over here in Canada. I would grab some if I go to a HMV.|
|Posted by: Import_Lexus Sep 26 2009, 09:59 PM|
| any news if they will release by DVD or box sets?
I'm hoping box sets since i already spent like $300 on the tokyo pop DVD's when i'd buy them every month they'd come out...
|Posted by: BOZZ Sep 26 2009, 10:00 PM|
|Do they actually release soundtracks in Canada for their other works?|
|Posted by: Dstylerotary Sep 27 2009, 05:42 AM|
|Oh im thrilled. I can finally actually show this show to my friends (who all refuse to watch anything with subtitles) but love the initial d game. i own all the tokyopop dvds simply cause of the convience and watching them in my truck. maybe now netflix will restock since all the ones they were renting out "disappeared" in the mail.|
|Posted by: Nomake Wan Sep 27 2009, 05:47 AM|
| Well...crap. I wonder what I should do with my TP copies. Still, this is awesome news!! Finally, legit DVDs for the rest of the series. That's just spectacular, and I'll at the very least be collecting the series I don't already own legally.
...okay I'm not fooling anyone, I'm gonna end up rebuying 1-2 too.
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Sep 27 2009, 07:08 AM|
|Usually FUNimation does half season sets for series; I highly doubt they'll use singles for this because they've pretty much phased out singles.|
|Posted by: Drew Sep 27 2009, 08:26 AM|
| This makes me so happy.
Finally, a proper company picks this shit up!!!
|Posted by: Import_Lexus Sep 27 2009, 09:28 AM|
okay good to know, thanks
i'll defiantly be re-buying the whole series
|Posted by: UmmYeahOk Sep 27 2009, 12:27 PM|
Normally I would suggest selling them, or regifting them, but there should be no trace of Tokyopops heresy left. In fact, I suggest not even bringing up the fact that it ever even existed. Any memory of their sins will only devalue the show.
BTW, if you havent tried, microwaving them for 10 seconds is a lot more entertaining than the actual show.
|Posted by: Tessou Sep 27 2009, 03:41 PM|
FUNimation rarely releases soundtracks for their productions. I highly doubt we'll see anything aside from DVD release of the anime.
|Posted by: Lebon14 Sep 27 2009, 03:51 PM|
Aww... Shoot. What a bummer
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Sep 27 2009, 04:08 PM|
| I think all the soundtracks are on iTunes...
|Posted by: Tessou Sep 27 2009, 07:33 PM|
|The US soundtracks and various Eurobeat albums are on iTunes, but not the JP Initial D soundtracks.|
|Posted by: Nomake Wan Sep 27 2009, 07:53 PM|
Oh wow, yet another idiot who doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. Must I really once again go into my rant about how the 5.1 Japanese audio track and the video quality are way better than the Japanese releases...?
Great, I get it, you don't like TokyoPop for some of the decisions they made. But dude, you can choose to watch the original Japanese version with unaltered anything, and it looks awesome. There will be no fire for these discs.
|Posted by: Tessou Sep 27 2009, 07:59 PM|
|^ You said it before I decided to. I guess I just wasn't annoyed enough yet.|
|Posted by: UmmYeahOk Sep 27 2009, 08:33 PM|
FUNimation did release several Dragon Ball Z CDs way back when. What may happen is that CDs will be released, but licensed through FUNi. You dont go through the trouble of getting licensing rights to Avex songs and not do anything with it.
Though historically, they havent really done anything. I believe they will with this. Even if its just an american release of the same albums we all have.
Geez, sorry. I had no idea that people actually liked that babyish teenage mutant ninja turtle wannabe rapper crap.
AND I have no idea what you are talking about 5.1 audio and video quality. I happen to own all the stages. They ALL have 5.1 surround... ...they ALL have beautiful quality... ...and they ALL are not tokyopop. Are you comparing your lame TP collection to some crappy divx you pulled off the web? Or did you seriously buy both Japanese and TP and compared them side by side?
You cant seriously tell me that Tokyopop upconverted and remastered everything, and remixed the entire japanese audio at a higher bitrate. If they did anything to the original audio, it was splicing in their own crappy music (I dont know, I never watched TP's Japanese version). If youre saying that I have the choice to watch the original japanese version, then it would be original, not magically better. Are you sure you didnt just watch TPs version in your family room, with all the nice components and speakers and didnt watch the japanese dvd in your bedroom with the 15 yo tv? Or is it that your LA pride cant picture the fact that anything produced outside LA could be any better?
|Posted by: Tessou Sep 27 2009, 10:35 PM|
BECK didn't get a US release of the fantastic soundtrack, now did it? Just because they license the soundtrack doesn't mean it will get a release. Remember that the soundtracks they released for DBZ were for the Bruce Faulconer US BGM and not the original Japanese BGM.
Also, I wouldn't step on N1's toes like you are. If anybody knows video and audio quality, it's him. He's not speaking from "YOYOYO L.A. PRYDE" or from a 15 year old television. The man knows his shit. Try and treat people with a little more respect than just crying when they have something to say against your viewpoint.
|Posted by: Godot Sep 27 2009, 11:48 PM|
Obviously if you never seen the TP Japanese version, then why rant about it?
Its like your trolling your own thread -.-
The boxes for the TP release were odd. Every time I bought a DVD, when I get home the disc inner ring always had a crack so I returned it for a brand new one.
|Posted by: Nomake Wan Sep 27 2009, 11:53 PM|
Oh wow. You think I liked the changes. Cool story bro, try reading for comprehension next time instead of automatically knee-jerk reacting with ZOMG TOKYOPOP SUCKS AT EVERYTHING MAKE THEM DIE ANYONE WHO LIKES THEIR SHIT SUCKS OLOLOL. Just a tip.
As for not knowing what I'm talking about in terms of video quality, you're new, so you don't really know me. That's fine. I'm guessing you've never actually looked at the TokyoPop DVDs on a computer before, comparing them to the stuff on the R2 releases. You seem to be rather sickened by TokyoPop, so it's understandable you wouldn't own any of the R1 DVDs to judge with. That's fine.
DivXs downloaded from the web? Uh... yeah. Again... you're new... so you aren't aware about the saga where I started a fansub project on Initial D Battle Stage after getting my hands on the R2 source. How I ended up showing people how crappy the R2 source was, and wishing it had half the clarity of the R1 First and Second Stage releases. If you'd like, I guess I could be bothered to provide example frames from the DVD to show you what I mean. The short of it is, the new CG sections are done in progressive, with the old series source (in-car views for instance) done interlaced and with 3:2 pulldown. If you don't know what that means, that's fine, it's on wiki. Basically they spliced a bunch of different source together rather than re-encode the whole thing from scratch, resulting in a mish-mash of sources that were an absolute pain to get to look right. I'm still not happy with how it came out.
And if you have the R2 releases of every stage, then surely you have the one for Fourth Stage. How could you not complain about how that was encoded? They took the original digital master (remember, Fourth Stage was done completely digitally!)... then encoded it as letterboxed, even though the original source was widescreen. So rather than encode the video to 720x480 and then have it anamorphically extend to 853x480, they just put ugly black bars on the top and bottom, resulting in a significant loss of useable source resolution. Why!? It doesn't make any sense to do it like that.
Please, don't diss TokyoPop over their DVD releases. I cannot comment on their manga release, nor their VHS releases... but as I own every Initial D DVD they released, I can at least say this. The quality the put into doing the DVD masters was amazingly clear. The Japanese audio is there, unaltered, in 5.1 or stereo. The original unaltered Japanese video is there, and looks spectacular. That alone is enough reason that merely destroying the discs is a complete waste. So the dub isn't great. No one's holding a gun to my head telling me I have to watch it.
Oh, and yet again, since you're new, you aren't aware that I've lived 17 years of my life in upstate New York (you know, that part six hours away from NYC that no one thinks exists?) and only recently moved to Orange, California (which is likewise an hour or so from this Los Angeles you seem to enjoy ragging on).
Try to get your facts straight before flaming someone. The join date, post count as well as proper spelling and grammar should have given away that I'm not someone you want to do that to.
Have a good night.
|Posted by: Tessou Sep 28 2009, 12:06 AM|
| That's what happens when you...
|Posted by: BOZZ Sep 28 2009, 12:18 AM|
|Btw, N1, wasn't there some issues with even the video quality of the First Stage DVDs from the Tokyopop releases? I recall something about there being some distortion, it sort of looked like a tear of some kind, in some episodes of First Stage...|
|Posted by: DXPetti Sep 28 2009, 02:28 AM|
|Bluray release with high quality rip from the original masters please?|
|Posted by: Nomake Wan Sep 28 2009, 02:54 AM|
Not that I can recall. I'd have to go back through to confirm, but from my recollection, I only ran into those during scene changes in Battle Stage. However, it's definitely possible that the "scene-change tear" appeared in the TP DVDs. Those are fairly easy to deal with though, as they're really an extra frame. Crop that one frame out and it's smooth. For whatever reason, watching it on a TV doesn't show it.
There was a similar thing in Battle Stage during the Mako&Sayuki race. At one point, the frame as a whole actually shifted right so significantly that cropping it would've completely broken the encode. I to this day haven't figured out how it works, as again, watching it on a TV looks fine, but on a computer it's downright jarring.
DXPetti: That would work well for Fourth Stage and Wangan Midnight (though the parts where they cut corners on some of the textures would become fairly glaringly obvious), and Third Stage would probably look good assuming the original source was 35mm. First and Second Stage, though... I'm not sure how well that would work out.
|Posted by: Import_Lexus Sep 28 2009, 06:22 AM|
| keep your tokyo pop dvd's they will get rare
and everyone loves rare stuff
and for UmmYeahOk who said burn them, i want to see you take $300 cash out of your wallet that you don't have because your obviously don't know what money is and probably get your parents to buy you everything. YOU LITTLE BABY !
but yeah burn $300 cash first then i'll burn my dvd;s just for you pretty boy
|Posted by: kou yuuzhen Sep 28 2009, 06:54 AM|
you mean you have another thread like this?
uhh..... try to consider a better title for your thread the next time?
microwaving all the TP releases? ok..... i understand that some people can get over-heated sometimes when they talk. nothing to be bothered about
|Posted by: kyonpalm Sep 28 2009, 10:48 AM|
| Yeeeaaahhh mmmkay.
*completely ignores all bullshit*
So Don, mind providing some comparison screencaps? I was surprised to hear this! You sure know your stuff!
|Posted by: UmmYeahOk Sep 28 2009, 11:25 AM|
First of all, if youre wasting $300 on TP DVDs, then you obviously live with your parents and dont have to spend your money on anything important, thats why you would waste so much money on such crap! Microwaving $300 worth of TPs Initial D is a WHOLE lot worth it than actually watching the show itself! THATS how bad the show actually is. Why should I burn $300 when you already proved that youre more than willing to flush it down Tokyopops toilet?
I would never in my life waste so much money on a dying medium for a show so poorly dubbed. You have any idea what you just did? You helped Tokyopop believe the show wasnt a complete failure. Rather than give up, they released season sets. FUNi could have redubed the show a LONG LONG time ago, but no. You gave them $300. That $300 says to them that what they did was right... ...that all anime they dub should be americanized in such horrible fashion.
What you did is no different than supporting terrorists. You let them win! You wanna know why theres so many crappy reality shows on TV? Because people like you watch. You cant just turn off the TV, you cant just NOT BUY.
Though I really cant support pirating fan subs, I can suggest buying foreign copies. That way youre supporting the ID franchise, and NOT Tokyopop. IMO thats not wasting money.
To accuse me of being a spoiled baby because I wouldnt waste my money on garbage or that I would rather buy asian copies is completely absurd! Grow up!
You seriously dont think Itsuki-wait-"Iggy" sounded way too much like Michelangelo? And Im talking about the 80s TMNTs. You know... ...Radical! Cowabunga! Bodacious!
To watch their subs, Id have to BUY IT. Besides, everyone who agrees with me at how bad the dub is also claims how bad the subs were. So they WERE edited after all. Wasted money.
Sucks that youre forced to return it for an exact copy. Not actually get a refund.
Well, I only assume that based off of what I saw them do with Initial D. I am not an anime purest. I like my anime dubbed... ...what little anime I do watch. I like ID not because it anime, but because I like the music and the cars. The story is just a plus. Changing any one of these three things, which they end up doing twice, completely ruins the show for me. Thankfully I watched the fansub first. Had I first been introduced to it through TPs version I would have never finished 1st stage.
With that said, Im not going to waste my time or money with TP. Its possible that they have done some right things with shows, but since I am never going to give them a try, I cant compliment nor complain about them.
When was this done? before you were a member here? Just was curious since it had been released years before your sign up date.
And yes, please provide examples. Besides I consider Battle stage just something extra for fans. If its poorer quality than 1 &2, its possible that the japanese cut corners, just like the americans do with direct-to-video
I found nothing wrong with my 5.1 japanese originals. Heck, I own all the simpsons DVDs, and most of them have interlacing. Youre telling me that TP is better than FOX? I can understand the interlacing considering the frame rate, but I dont believe for one minute that TP would deinterlace every single scene. Not unless such quality was already provided for them. I could see FUNi, maybe, but TP? no way.
And maybe if I were fluent in japanese unaltered video and audio would mean something, but if I have to use TPs translations, and risk the possibility that the audio and/or video has been altered in anyway. Its too much to risk paying good money for it.
So youre a Yorker. Thats explains the better-than-you attitude that I mistook for LA pride.
Really, if you dont like the TP version, then why do you defend it so?
So youve been a member since 2005? Who the hell cares? Ive already mentioned in a different thread how I have been a member for years, just never active, and somehow my account got deleted because of it. There was no need for me to post. I hated TPs version. Everyone agreed with me. When new episodes came out, Id come here just to find the link to it (buying legal copies later) Ive been watching this show since Battle Stage 1 was new. There was no need for me to rush in and sign up to every online forum dedicated to it. So congratulations on spending youre entire life on the web. You must be so proud of yourself
|Posted by: kyonpalm Sep 28 2009, 11:46 AM|
BTW: You don't HAVE to buy the TP DVDs to see their subbed version. I've seen full TP DVD rips around the net. Check here.
|Posted by: UmmYeahOk Sep 28 2009, 12:10 PM|
Gee, sorry. The title was originally titled "Initial D Redubbed!" but when sticked it was changed to "Initial D anime licensed by Funimation" which was when 5th stage comments started pouring in.
Im sorry, but I cant make it any more clearer that this has nothing to do with a 5th stage. If I title it "NOT ABOUT 5TH STAGE" I just put "5th stage" in the title, and people are going to see that and comment about it.
How do I know its TPs version? I cant find anything on the internet that specifies what version, and the reviews on link you showed me make it sound like the original japanese
|Posted by: BOZZ Sep 28 2009, 12:16 PM|
| Alright, UmmYeahOk, I would quit it right now... I am sure people realize you are not fond of Tokyopop's work but the way you seem to be insulting a few members, not a good idea around these parts.
I realize that this thread has been derailed a bit... so let's get back on course, alright?
|Posted by: kyonpalm Sep 28 2009, 12:51 PM|
I know because I own FUNi's First and Second stage box sets.
And no, those links should be dual audio - English and Japanese w/ TP's subtitles. A FULL TP rip.
And yes, Bozzy, let this be the end of it. I wonder how they'll package their releases...
|Posted by: Import_Lexus Sep 28 2009, 01:21 PM|
i'm hoping they do box sets, because loose DVD's would kill my budget.
Maybe just re-release season 1 and 2 box sets? That would be nice
Then season 3 is a movie so 1 disk and season 4 it wouldn't matter as much since i'd consider buying the loose DVD's
|Posted by: kou yuuzhen Sep 28 2009, 11:26 PM|
| i dunno much bout the english dub, can't find them here. let alone tokyopop whatever........
usually i buy mandarin dubs....... and they're decent
and yeah, box sets are WAYYYY cheaper than singles...... my stages 1-3 are a box set, with free eurobeat soundtrack CDs
|Posted by: BOZZ Sep 29 2009, 10:49 PM|
With Slim discs would be nice... I like how my box set of Nadesico (a mecha anime) is pretty pedestrian in terms of the space it takes up.
|Posted by: char Sep 30 2009, 12:54 PM|
| You are all starting to celebrate a bit early, I would suggest that we wait and see what exactly they produce.
If I remember correctly Funimation brought us a heavily edited version of Dragonball, then for an encore they released Dragonball Z, which they managed to shorten from the origional 294 Japanese episodes to 276 American episodes.
I think that Funimation is aiming to get Initial D onto cartoon network, something which TokyoPop could not do, that is where their money will come from with DVD sales after they have build a big enough demand for the show being the icing on the cake.
now there's a few things that they have no control over namely censorship and rating ,for the age group that they are targetting with this.
so don't get too excited as yet and wait for their translation of it.
|Posted by: toookoooldrew118 Sep 30 2009, 06:42 PM|
I think that if they're willing to re dub the first 3 stages its gotta be better. They're going to want to make money off of this ofcourse. so if they are indeed going through with the re dubbing then they have no choice but to make it better. They have to give both old and new fans a reason to buy the DVDs.
|Posted by: Tessou Sep 30 2009, 07:09 PM|
I numbered the parts of your post so it would be easier to answer each part.
1. The only reason the series was cut to 276 episodes the first time was because Pioneer, the original license holders, made the edits. The first 67 episodes were heavily edited down to 53. Now, those same 53 episodes were dubbed by The Ocean Group. FUNimation came in after DBZ was cancelled on Cartoon Network (fans will remember the endless reruns until FUNi picked it up). They picked up the series and distributed edited and uncut episodes that were forced to follow the hacked episode numbering that Pioneer started, creating the "276 episodes" problem. FUNimation couldn't do a damn thing to the original 67 episodes until 2004, when Pioneer (which had since become Geneon) lost their license to those episodes. The redubbing efforts by FUNimation since then have produced box sets that comprise all 291 episodes in their entirety. It was not at all FUNimation's fault. Thank Pioneer/Geneon for raping DBZ way back when.
2. I totally agree with you on that. They will have to air it on Adult Swim if they want to reach the target demographic, though, and there's a lot of competition there. Marketing an 11 year old anime (First Stage) amidst the modern shows is going to be TOUGH if they want to do this chronologically.
3. If it airs on [as] as I believe it would, there would ONE edit to the series since [as] standards would only censor the extremely brief nudity shot in Extra Stage. The rest of the series is standard TV-14 stuff, nothing to worry about.
|Posted by: BOZZ Sep 30 2009, 09:21 PM|
|There's also the Enjo Kosai bit... Wonder what they will do with that if they air it on TV.|
|Posted by: kyonpalm Sep 30 2009, 10:36 PM|
Air what? Suggestive conversation? Have you watched Adult Swim?!
|Posted by: Tessou Oct 2 2009, 06:07 PM|
|The enjo kosai bit was severely downplayed from the manga, remember. All we saw in the anime was Natsuki and Papa talking to each other, and none of the bedroom antics. The fact that they were having sex was only implied, so censorship for a TV-14 audience would be pointless.|
|Posted by: BOZZ Oct 2 2009, 09:05 PM|
I'm in Canada, I don't think we get Adult Swim/Cartoon Network.
|Posted by: kyonpalm Oct 2 2009, 09:32 PM|
Oh. Well look up Aqua Teen Hunger Force and have fun!
|Posted by: kou yuuzhen Oct 2 2009, 11:44 PM|
i didn't complete the manga, so i didn't see it......... please tell me which chapter natsuki had sex with Papa
|Posted by: kyonpalm Oct 2 2009, 11:59 PM|
Uhh it was really only a few pages.
Spoiler'd for obvious reasons.
|Posted by: kou yuuzhen Oct 3 2009, 12:31 AM|
i'll go check it out
btw is kyle sudoh= sudo kyoichi? his english name is kyle?
|Posted by: kyonpalm Oct 3 2009, 12:39 AM|
HOHOHO, if you think that's something...
Read this (spoiler for size):
Welcome to TokyoPop!
|Posted by: kou yuuzhen Oct 3 2009, 12:57 AM|
| he's insulting kyoichi!!!!!
you mean TP kills the language?
|Posted by: kyonpalm Oct 3 2009, 01:03 AM|
Very much so. That's the
|Posted by: kou yuuzhen Oct 3 2009, 01:11 AM|
|wtf?!?! the MF version is different! they don't show natsuki's bare body.... she was wearing a top in that pic|
|Posted by: Smikey Oct 4 2009, 10:55 AM|
I decide to do some browsing when I find this absolute GEM of a thread. Simply stunning. UmmYeahOk, you are a f**king moron. I am getting that out of the way now. Your Anti-TP ranting is played out and old. People do not agree with you, stop trying to force your beliefs and the such onto others. You have your opinion and they have theirs. If you cannot accept it this may not be the forum for you. Good luck in the real world and life with an attitude such as that.
You are one of those people that when proved wrong or proved to be an idiot goes into the "OMG UR A NERD VIRGIN NO LIFE LOSER WHO LIVES WITH THEIR PARENTS AND HAS NO JOB AND NO GIRL LOLOLOLOLOLOL!" spats. It is annoying. Stop. You want attention we can see that, you want to be liked on the internet. Guess what? You aren't. Want to know why? Shit like that. Watch out we have a Mr. INTERNET TOUGH GUY coming through.
I think it is time for to start addressing some of your GRAND points.
Apparently, reading comprehension is not your strong point. As a fan of Initial D, I picked a few up out of curiousity and knowing the Original Content (read: Japanese Version) was on the disc. Yes, I was disappointed with the dubbing but it still is worth it for the quality of the Japanese version. So amazing. I do not see how a perfectly intact Japanese version is crap unless you do not understand it, in which iirc there are subtitles, but seeing as you can not read or comprehend very well, I guess recommending that is out of the question. What I wanted to say is, watching the japanese version of the show is worth the money.
Of course you wouldn't waste your money on a dying medium. No one would which is why VHS tapes aren't really used for releases. All I see is Blu-Ray and DVD. Yes DVD is still popular not a dying medium, which is why most new releases are on Blu-Ray and... -gasp-...DVD. But, seeing as you think DVDs are a dying medium and you wouldn't waste your money on them, it is obvious you are one of those kids who has everything handed to them, and think it is Blu-Ray all the way. Since it is probably what you have sitting in your living room that your parents paid for. inb4youdontknowmeimake$500000ayear. While Blu-Ray is good, DVDs are still cheaper to produce and more affordable to the majority of the market.
-Sigh-, they did do something right though, they kept a japanese version on the DVD. For you to say it is a fan of the japanese version's fault for TP to keep releasing them is hardly the case. Most if not all were bought because OMG STREET RACING ON TEH TOUGE ANIME mentality or by parents as gifts. The 1% of people that bought them to check out the English version realized it was crappy and bought the rest for the superior Japanese version are not to blame. inb4WATsuperiorJapaneseUSAUSAUSA
He did buy a foreign copy hence the superior Japanese version on the DVD. Tokyopop sees their sales and are like OMGOMG WE ARE TEH RICHES because of the DVD. But, what they don't know is why some of the people continued to purchase them. Such as myself and others for the Japanese version that is on the DVD. So, yes by purchasing the TP DVD's you are in fact buying the foreign copy.
Seems that you have never bought anything. Which further strengthens my argument that you are a child. Most places in my experience once a DVD is opened it, which they are if you find out it is damaged, can only be exchanged for the same thing, because we do live in an age of DVD burning and pirating, and they can not confirm that you did not copy it or not or if the damage came from you trying to copy it. I am not using you refering to you. I am using you in ther terms of the general consumer.
You like it dubbed because you can't read. The above is quoted to emphasize the stupidity. You watched te fansub which is in fact the japanese version. Guess what, with the TP DVD's you can enjoy it again. But, since you seem to be a child still maybe just muting it and pretend to make your own story while watching would better suit you. "Vroom Vroom Tak, I will beat you down this mountain before you can deliver that Tofu YAY"
Apparently, Battle Stage was released a looooooooooooong time ago.
You claim to not be an anime purist but are sitting here b*tching about quality of the anime you watched. See a few quotes above the bolded text. Oxymoron much.
FAUX f**k YEAH! If you found nothing wrong with the 5.1 Japanese originals on the TP DVD why would you throw them away? Again, an non-anime purist complaining about quality. Ugh.
He could have said Hicktown, Missouri and you would have said "So, youre a Hicktowner. That explains the better-than-you attitude that I mistook for LA pride." It isn't a better-than-you attitude. It is simply that he spoke with authority on a subject he knows quite a bit about and made you feel a bit stupid. Don't take it so hard man. It is okay to be wrong sometimes.
Defending the quality of a version or the quality of the japanese version on the same DVD is not defending the TP version itself.
HEY ME TOO IVE ONLY BEEN ACTIVE RECENTLY!!!!!
tl;dr: Shut the f**k up and get the f**k out. You are a f**king downie, and we all hope you get hit by a bus full of rainbow colored dildos.
|Posted by: BOZZ Oct 4 2009, 11:40 AM|
| Let's hope that is the end of that, okay?
I would like to add though, that Battle Stage came out in 2002...
|Posted by: kyonpalm Oct 4 2009, 11:44 AM|
Really? I always thought it was 03. Must've been laaate 02? Third Stage was only about a year before then, wow.
|Posted by: BOZZ Oct 4 2009, 12:11 PM|
Actually early 2002... February 2002 to be exact...
@ryo below: That might have been when it got fansubbed... Although so far the only fully fansubbed version of Battle Stage is the one I did some QA for N1. The originally one released by Soldats (I think it was) was missing a few races since they used the pay-per-view airing as its source whereas N1 used the R2 DVD.
|Posted by: kyonpalm Oct 4 2009, 12:30 PM|
WOW! Seriously? Why have I heard 2003 every other time then... That's strange! I believe you though.
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Oct 4 2009, 12:52 PM|
| The question is, do they also have Battle Stage/Battle Stage 2? Because 2 especially has the DC2 race which was a pretty big turning point (and shouldn't have been cut from the anime either)
Also First Stage was the only season that was cel animation, right? I remember reading about the Second Stage ending problem on the TP DVDs and I think the person who pointed it out said it was easy to tell they replaced the scene because of the cel animation for First Stage.
|Posted by: kyonpalm Oct 4 2009, 01:20 PM|
Oh it was VERY obvious, I could tell it was Tokyopop's doing right away. And the worst thing is, they stopped giving the "tricked out"/"classic" video options at the end of First Stage, while that DID put a stop to the horrible 80s effects, it didn't give us the option to watch the unedited end.
|Posted by: Nomake Wan Oct 4 2009, 08:44 PM|
Yeah, it's easy to be confused when the thread creator has little idea what he's ranting about. I wasn't aware that fansub release dates had to coincide with the release date for the original source?
Anyway, I'll try to get some screenshots for comparison a little later. I'll use the Tokyopop DVDs for shots from First and Second Stages, and compare them to shots from the R2 DVD of Battle Stage. For giggles, I'll also post shots from the R2 DVDs for 4th Stage, showing the spectacularific letterboxing they decided to do.
|Posted by: UmmYeahOk Oct 5 2009, 12:05 PM|
Look, all I did was inform everyone about what FUNimation was doing. How cool it was and so on. Then a few people come along asking what they should do withe their TP copies. Then when I gave them suggestions they all went nuts "TOKYO POP IS SO COOL! Its better then the original japanese, so odds are the redub will be crap too" oh yeah... ...and "5th stage!!! WHEN?!??!?!?!?"
I was very shocked by this as this was the FIRST and ONLY time I have ever heard anything positive about Tokyo Pop... ...EVER. And this is supported by "Oh Ive been a member longer and have created illegal fansubs that several other groups have already done, so my opinion has more strength" How am I suppose to feel?
Besides, its quite obvious that there are way too many immature fanboys on here whove formed a friendship alliance that its not worth fighting. My last topic, I had members suggesting that I be banned because, just like this one, people went nuts thinking the topic was about 5th stage, and then got ticked off when they realized it wasnt. Thats the type of people you have here.
Makes me feel like when I do find out about cast lists, and when there WILL be a stage 5, that I shouldnt even bother coming here.
ANYWAY... Back on topic...
1)They had to, to get it on TV. And since mainstream children liked it that way, they kept it. Plus theyve released unedited versions. And even though DBZ was their greatest hit, still is, they been pleasing traditional anime fans since Fruits Basket. I cant remember where I heard this, but it was supposed to be americanized. Somehow it wasnt, and the success and fandom led FUNi to create unedited english versions of future shows. They are very good about listening to their fans.
2) I am not sure how CN will take it. Theyve been avoiding anime. Its not good for their demographic. Adult Swim may take it, if theyre willing to pay for it, which I doubt it. I would say this anime would do well on Spike, G4, or even Speed Channel.
3) if they air it on CN, they would have to edit out all the smoking (and theres a lot) I would compare this show to One Piece. One Piece is a show which was once dubbed by a company called 4Kids. They butchered the crap out of the show. Mostly because it had to be Y-7. There was a lot of blood and smoking on this show. Fans hates it due to the annoying voice overs, and americanization of names and other things. Pretty much exactly what TP did to ID.
Anyway, just like with ID, FUNi rescued it, redubbed the entire show, realesed everything on DVD (still in progress) and fans were pleased. I have never heard anything negative about what they did to the show other than from purests (who watch everything 100% in japanese original) And of those, they typically were things that couldnt be helped. (blood and cig edits, and the reuse of names due to taking over a 4kids show currently airing on CN) although on DVD, and overseas CNs, they kept everything original, just dubbed it in english
|Posted by: Tessou Oct 5 2009, 07:55 PM|
Please show me an actual quote of somebody glorifying the Tokyopop DVDs. The only positive comment I saw was N1 saying the Japanese 5.1 transfer was fantastic, and I agree with that.
Prove to me that you actually have some proof here instead of smoke coming out of your ass.
|Posted by: Smikey Oct 5 2009, 08:05 PM|
Do you even read posts before posting your own dribble?
|Posted by: kyonpalm Oct 5 2009, 08:10 PM|
|I agree with the last two posts. Why? I have to - they're right.|
|Posted by: kou yuuzhen Oct 6 2009, 12:55 AM|
if you're going to answer their questions (bout what to do with the TP copies) at all, maybe you should say something nicer than "microwaving and burning" them..... however much you hated TP, i can assure you they're not the worst. try watching the Malaysian dub once; then you'll know what i'm talking about
i can't say much bout this thread that we're discussing here now, since i never got to see the original title you wrote (you told me the title was changed by the mods); but you can't blame people for thinking bout stage 5 when you make threads with titles like "OMG ITS COMING!!!!!!!!!!!"
suggesting you be banned? oh come on..... its a common thing in online forums. i've been flamed and warned and almost kicked out of other forums too, because of much more stupid matters than this. if you're rude to other members, this is what you get
|Posted by: TougeEmpress Oct 8 2009, 09:50 PM|
|Let's stop bashing TP for the awful job they did on ID and let's think about waht Funimation will do. Since the Eurobeat is retained, would discuss who would voice the cast. I think a few of the TP cast suited the characters (Bunta, Ryosuke) but who do you think will make a good cast. I'm not gonna reply because I haven't thought hard enough on this, but I would love to hear your suggestions.|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Oct 9 2009, 06:33 PM|
| I have somewhat of a cast prediction here, but it's only for First Stage:
Takumi Fujiwara - Chris Patton
Bunta Fujiwara - R Bruce Elliot
Itsuki Takeuchi - Chris Cason
Koichirou Iketani - John Bergmeier
Kenji - Kyle Hebert
Keisuke Takahashi - Chris Sabat
Ryosuke Takahashi - Eric Vale
Takeshi Nakazato - Mike McFarland
Shingo Shouji - Micah Solusod
Natsuki Mogi - Laura Bailey
Mako - Cherami Leigh
Sayuki - Luci Christian
Micah was a last minute choice really because they got him for Soul Eater...
|Posted by: kou yuuzhen Oct 9 2009, 08:34 PM|
| who's eric vale? is he as hot as takehito koyasu?
TK's deep sexy voice was perfect for ryosuke
let's see how it will turn up in english dub
|Posted by: BOZZ Oct 9 2009, 08:57 PM|
|Takehito Koyasu as hot/good looking? Have you seen the guy smile?|
|Posted by: kou yuuzhen Oct 9 2009, 09:18 PM|
you mean his teeth is crooked?
never mind....... his voice alone makes up for any flaws he may have
i'm so TK-addicted
|Posted by: Tessou Oct 9 2009, 11:54 PM|
Eric Vale (real name Eric Johnson) is best known as the voice of Future Trunks on DBZ. Other major character voice credits include:
- Ryuusuke in BECK
- Zolf "Crimson Alchemist" Kimblee in Fullmetal Alchemist
- Karasuma in School Rumble
- Sanji in One Piece (the redub, not that 4kids shit)
I personally don't think he would fit the role very well. Ryosuke's voice is quite deep, and isn't gravelly as Eric's is in all of his roles.
|Posted by: BOZZ Oct 12 2009, 10:16 AM|
|So no new news on the Funimation version yet, eh?|
|Posted by: kyonpalm Oct 12 2009, 10:18 AM|
I doubt there will be. To be honest, I don't expect this to be anything more than straight to DVD releases.
I don't think we'll see anything else until the first DVD hits the store shelves.
We can be hopeful for it though...
|Posted by: BOZZ Oct 12 2009, 03:12 PM|
|I would think they would at least, you know, announce publicly who is going to be voice acting and how it is going to be released.|
|Posted by: kyonpalm Oct 12 2009, 03:25 PM|
Oh stuff like that. Yeah, I'd expect something on the blog at least.
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Oct 12 2009, 03:56 PM|
| They always announce the cast before. Usually they also upload subtitled episodes on their video player, but the player is region locked and some people from the UK have complained about that.
|Posted by: BOZZ Oct 12 2009, 04:11 PM|
Ah, I wonder if it's region locked to the US like other websites I have seen...
|Posted by: kyonpalm Oct 12 2009, 04:37 PM|
|I don't follow the schedules, but when would you say the first ep will get done?|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Oct 13 2009, 07:54 AM|
| I don't really know. Usually a couple of months or so after they announce something they put up subtitled episodes on the video portal, I remember a few months after they had licensed Strike Witches they put up episodes.
Also, FUNi confirmed recently on a video panel they did that it was all from scratch, which means none of the video issues, and it was going to be a complete recast. And their events coordinator likes Initial D too.
|Posted by: BOZZ Oct 25 2009, 01:34 AM|
|Although not related directly to Initial D, it seems Funimation is releasing some of their shows on the PlayStation Network and X-Box Live (at least in the US). It makes me wonder if they'd consider selling Initial D Fourth Stage (and others) on them as well.|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Oct 25 2009, 04:19 PM|
| I think they will. There are quite a few of FUNi's shows on DTO (Download to Own) on PSN and XBL so Initial D should make it on there.
God I can't wait for when it comes out.
|Posted by: BOZZ Nov 24 2009, 09:57 PM|
|So is there still no new announcements from Funi about Initial D?|
|Posted by: wata_fuji10 Nov 24 2009, 10:20 PM|
| Funimation is more better...
an English Dub with Eurobeat Soundtrack....would be more nicer
than the Tokyopop's Rap rock soundtrack and mess up sound effects of the cars...
i remember that 4AG in Tokyopop is sounding just like the V6 engine I just hate the english dub of Tokyopop but the voices is okay.. I hope that they never change everything like the names, soundtrack everything from the original...
keep it up funimation...
for fixed version of Initial D
I hope they get the Battle Stage I and II and the Extra Stage II
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Dec 17 2009, 05:27 PM|
| Well, Funimation had a virtual panel today and here's what they said regarding Initial D:
- Third Stage comes out March 2010
- license didn't include Battle Stage or Battle Stage 2 sadly
So we're going to get Third Stage first. Kind of weird but it does have better animation than First/Second Stage so it probably will help for sales.
And hell, maybe they'll pick up Battle Stage/Battle Stage 2 later on if the series sells good.
|Posted by: BOZZ Dec 17 2009, 06:10 PM|
|That is sort of odd, then again Tokyopop's first publicly shown work for the animated series was Third Stage @ an anime con in NYC.|
|Posted by: kou yuuzhen Dec 17 2009, 06:24 PM|
|what? i've always thought that stage 1 was made better than the rest. i don't know bout the english dub though..... makes sense if they're going to have different VAs for each stage|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Dec 17 2009, 06:31 PM|
|Well, they're billing Third Stage as "never before dubbed"...did Tokyopop ever get to dubbing Third Stage? I guess only those who attended the con in NY (which was Big Apple Anime Fest IIRC) can answer this.|
|Posted by: kyonpalm Dec 18 2009, 09:33 AM|
Actually, word has it they DID dub it, but it never got released since the original owner went bankrupt and they stopped production of the anime.
|Posted by: BOZZ Dec 18 2009, 09:41 AM|
Ummm... I don't think that's entirely true... The original owner is Avex...?
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Dec 19 2009, 07:41 AM|
|Probably meant Tokyopop's anime division. I think they pretty much quit after the dub because they realized it wasn't selling at all.|
|Posted by: kyonpalm Dec 19 2009, 09:18 AM|
Yeah, I meant Tokyopop's original owner, sorry.
|Posted by: Tessou Dec 19 2009, 09:30 AM|
|Third Stage was not shown at that time. They showed the live action movie.|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Dec 19 2009, 11:25 AM|
| So that means Tokyopop didn't even dub Third Stage at all...or maybe they did, but we'll never know.
Oh yeah, the release date may have changed. The solicitations for March got posted on AnimeOnDVD and Third Stage isn't on there. I guess they may have pushed it back or it hasn't been listed on Rightstuf or Amazon yet.
Still can't wait.
|Posted by: BOZZ Dec 19 2009, 03:24 PM|
Ummm... Not at the Big Apple Anime Fest from a few years ago... There was no live action movie at the time...
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Dec 19 2009, 05:26 PM|
|Yeah, I'm pretty sure I remember reading on ANN that Third Stage was going to be screened at Big Apple Anime Fest. I think I even saw a poster for it online.|
|Posted by: Tessou Dec 19 2009, 09:29 PM|
| Aha, I see what happened. In 2003, apparently the premiere of the English dub of Third Stage was shown. This is odd considering that Tokyopop hadn't even started rolling out the first of the series DVDs at that time. The first DVD came out in September 2003, so why would anybody dub Third Stage earlier than anything else?
I will inquire Tokyopop about it. I'm not even sure who dubbed Third Stage back then.
Also, a quote from ANN that came up recently:
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Dec 20 2009, 05:58 AM|
| Whoa, the boxset as in First and Second Stage redubbed? I thought only Third Stage was coming out...
That's pretty awesome but I'll have to save up for both.
|Posted by: Tessou Dec 20 2009, 10:39 AM|
|I'll take this as a hint that Funimation realized that none of the fans would want to wait through First and Second Stages again just to get to the stuff that they should have seen years ago.|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Dec 20 2009, 12:03 PM|
| I can't wait to hear about the cast. Hopefully the script is pretty good.
|Posted by: Tessou Dec 20 2009, 05:04 PM|
|Funimation has had a pretty decent track record concerning script translation, aside from their work on Dragonball. A look at their brilliant scripts for School Rumble, Fullmetal Alchemist and BECK should be more than enough to keep the faith.|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Dec 20 2009, 06:14 PM|
|Yeah, I think they'll do a good number on this one.|
|Posted by: Lord Letto Jan 11 2010, 02:34 AM|
|any Updates? i didn't even know about it till i joined this forum. i'm looking forward on getting some cash and buying it when they come out.|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Jan 11 2010, 09:41 AM|
|Nothing yet. I cannot wait though.|
|Posted by: BOZZ Jan 12 2010, 11:50 AM|
|I am surprised that there really hasn't been much said aside from that they are apparently doing Third Stage first. It's been almost 5 months since they licensed the property so why haven't they at least announced the voice cast?|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Jan 12 2010, 03:08 PM|
|I actually got a tip from someone about 2 of the VAs that will be in it...but I can't remember their names.|
|Posted by: BOZZ Jan 12 2010, 03:29 PM|
|Awn... I'd be interested to see if they were going to be keeping some of the guys from the TP dub...|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Jan 12 2010, 05:58 PM|
|Probably not. The Tokyopop dub was sort of a mix of dub studios (they had some VAs from Bang Zoom and some from a Viz studio as well) and FUNimation dubs most of their stuff in house. Doesn't mean it'll be bad though.|
|Posted by: BOZZ Jan 12 2010, 06:02 PM|
|Ah, well I thought there were a few decent voice actors in the TP version...|
|Posted by: Tessou Jan 12 2010, 06:12 PM|
|I'm watching the usual places for any updates on the VAs every day, so if I hear something, it'll be posted here ASAP. Only a few months before the release!|
|Posted by: BOZZ Jan 12 2010, 06:51 PM|
|Btw, this might be a redundant question but they are keeping the Eurobeat in there for the dub right?|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Jan 13 2010, 10:22 AM|
| Yes. They've mentioned it several times, and I remember in the first FUNiCon stream that Adam Sheehan (their events guy) said "Everyone likes that Eurobeat music" or something along those lines.
Since it's all under one label (Avex) I doubt they'd run into license issues. Also FUNi has sometimes dubbed OPs/EDs for series (Negima!? and One Piece are two I can think of) but I think they'll keep the originals for this.
|Posted by: Import_Lexus Feb 4 2010, 05:50 AM|
| Initial D Stage 3 - May 11th 2010
Initial D 4th Stage Episode 1 - May 11th 2010
Confirmed from Funimation
such a long wait gah !
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Feb 4 2010, 06:42 AM|
|Usually Funimation puts up episodes or clips on their website a couple months before the series hits so you can get a taste of it. They should announce the dub cast in a while too...|
|Posted by: BOZZ Feb 4 2010, 07:00 PM|
|Interesting! The only thing that sucks is it'll be on DVD... I'd love if they had some Blu Rays in the Initial D animated series line-up...|
|Posted by: Tessou Feb 4 2010, 07:13 PM|
| First and Second stages would need some serious work to look decent on BR. Even on DVD you can see a lot of artifacts and "jaggies". It would look atrocious if put on BR without remastering.
Third Stage has some clouding in the CG scenes that would need editing.
Fourth Stage is the only one that would need maybe minimal work to look alright on BR.
|Posted by: BOZZ Feb 4 2010, 10:40 PM|
|Yeah, I doubt Funimation would make the effort though... Which makes me sad since the selection of anime Blu Rays is rather limited in North America.|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Feb 5 2010, 07:35 AM|
|A lot of videophiles seem to have beef with Funimation and Blu-ray too. I'm just glad we're getting the series.|
|Posted by: Tessou Feb 5 2010, 09:58 AM|
| I don't have a BR player anymore, so it doesn't matter to me. I'm just happy that FUNi is bringing the complete series our way, and all at once.
So for those of you buying into this release, are you planning on getting everything in one go, or just sticking to a specific series?
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Feb 5 2010, 11:07 AM|
|I might get Third Stage first, then Fourth Stage. Third Stage might be cheap since it's a single movie.|
|Posted by: Nomake Wan Feb 5 2010, 03:40 PM|
| I'm totally getting Fourth Stage. I have the region 2 DVDs for Fourth Stage and they're... ugh. They were created in an age when DVDs were still growing up and anamorphic widescreen hadn't completely gone mainstream over there. By that I mean that Fourth Stage's R2 DVDs are 4:3 letterboxed. Uggh.
It'll be amazing if FUNi's DVDs are 16:9 anamorphic. That alone would justify the purchase for me.
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Feb 5 2010, 04:09 PM|
|Most of FUNi's stuff is 16:9 if I recall, so Fourth Stage should be like that.|
|Posted by: crazyjdog Feb 22 2010, 11:08 PM|
Okay, I am kind of confused (and I'm new here) FUNI has already released the sets for ID 1&2? All this time I have been fretting over how I want to have good copies of the show to watch and it was all for nothing and for that matter how long have the funimation releases been available to buy?
|Posted by: kyonpalm Feb 22 2010, 11:19 PM|
Uhh, well they've released Stage 1 and 2, but only with the TokyoPop dub and the original Japanese.
TP's original owner went bankrupt so Funi released the box sets for them I guess.
|Posted by: Tessou Feb 22 2010, 11:34 PM|
Just look for the Tokyopop logo on the bottom right of the First Stage set...
And along the spine of the Second Stage set...
There's your spotter's guide. The Funimation dub for First and Second Stages are not out yet and don't even have a release date. So far only Third and Fourth stage dubs have release dates (May 11).
|Posted by: kyonpalm Feb 22 2010, 11:42 PM|
|Huh. That's strange. My copy of First Stage has TP on the spine, not a logo on the bottom.|
|Posted by: Tessou Feb 22 2010, 11:44 PM|
|Well then... look for it on the spine of First Stage, too.|
|Posted by: BOZZ Feb 22 2010, 11:45 PM|
I think it was the distributor that went bankrupt and I believe Tokyopop wanted to focus more on their manga and original English-language "manga".
|Posted by: kyonpalm Feb 22 2010, 11:54 PM|
Oh. That makes more sense, actually.
|Posted by: Tessou Feb 22 2010, 11:57 PM|
And then they lost half of their manga licenses.
|Posted by: BOZZ Feb 23 2010, 12:50 AM|
Yeah, there's that too... Funny enough one of their main sources of manga licenses, Kodansha, was rumoured to be making inroads to opening up their own US-distribution in the near future...
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Feb 24 2010, 12:11 PM|
They've actually opened but so far they haven't released much...I think they just released GiTS and Akira manga.
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 5 2010, 08:45 PM|
| My sources have found that the voice cast includes: Joel McDonald, Brina Palencia, Eric Vale, Christopher R. Sabat, and Josh Grelle. No word yet on who is playing what role, but take the names as you will and make guesses.
Joel McDonald - Takumi
Brina Palencia - Natsuki (DURRRR)
Eric Vale - Keisuke, Iketani, or Kenji
Chris Sabat - Bunta
Josh Grelle - Itsuki, Iketani, or Kenji
Also, the Fourth Stage Part 1 DVD will contain episodes 1-12 on two discs.
|Posted by: BOZZ Mar 5 2010, 09:55 PM|
|Uh those box sets are kind of ugly looking...|
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 5 2010, 10:12 PM|
|They might not be the final box art, mind you. That's just what's available at the moment.|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Mar 5 2010, 10:17 PM|
|Oh man, Brina may be in it? She's one of my favorite VAs there.|
|Posted by: kyonpalm Mar 5 2010, 11:13 PM|
|The heck are you talking about? That box art is NOICE.|
|Posted by: kou yuuzhen Mar 5 2010, 11:25 PM|
|Where's Ryosuke's VA? I hope his voice is as least as deep as the Japanese version...|
|Posted by: kyonpalm Mar 5 2010, 11:43 PM|
He could be one of the ones previously mentioned. The list Tess gave wasn't official.
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 6 2010, 09:04 AM|
|It's official as to what is currently available. I found out some the VAs that are attached to Initial D in a voicing role, but I do not know who they are playing.|
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 12 2010, 06:57 PM|
| I didn't have a bearing on Josh Grelle's voice, so I did some digging. Turns out he is the lead role in Kenichi: Mightiest Disciple.
Make your guesses from there.
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 18 2010, 10:16 PM|
| ANN released a (very) partial cast list recently.
Joel McDonald - Takumi Fujiwara
Brina Palencia - Natsuki Mogi
J. Michael Tatum - Keisuke Takahashi
I was way off on my guesses.
|Posted by: BOZZ Mar 18 2010, 10:40 PM|
|Only three confirmed so far for Third Stage... hmm...|
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 18 2010, 10:41 PM|
|She's made a good name for herself at Funimation. She was really good as Maho in BECK.|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Mar 19 2010, 06:44 AM|
| Also Holo in Spice and Wolf, Yue in Negima...
I'll wait for it to be officially announced but if going by this means she's in it I'm excited!
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 19 2010, 09:21 AM|
| Speaking of Spice and Wolf, J. Michael Tatum played Lawrence. He is also the new voice of Scar in FMA Brotherhood.
Joel McDonald, however, has a rather short resume so far. He's one of the newer VAs at Funimation.
From 6:09, Joel provides the voice of Yajima here in Linebarrels of Iron. I think he's got the right voice for Takumi.
|Posted by: 5-GeaR_LoveR Mar 19 2010, 09:49 AM|
| Sorry if you guys know this already, but the first four episodes of Fourth Stage are up on Funimation's website. I did watch the first episode, and I will say the voices sound very different from Tokyopops dubs.
IMO the VA's of Tokyopop dubs dare I say it seem to be like a better choice. Now I'm not saying that the translation of the TP dubs were good, but the voice actors seemed to be like a better fit to me. I mean Itsuki in the Funimation dubs just doesn't sound right at all, he lost his goofiness if you could put it that way. Keisuke just sounds too young really, and Bunta just sounds completely different. They also put a bit of slang in there although not as much as TP from what I could tell. Maybe I'm just too used to the TP dubs, but I'll give Funimation a chance. Overall it's good to hear the Eurobeat, I don't really care about the pronounciation of the names. The VA's just sound too similar from what I've heard and watched so far.
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Mar 19 2010, 04:05 PM|
| I agree about Itsuki's voice. The name pronunciation may be a bit off too. Also when I heard Keisuke say "three-four" in episode 2 of Fourth Stage I remembered when Tokyopop used "three-two" for the R32.
Also, here's some more of the cast:
Tohru - Chris Patton
Ryosuke - J. Michael Tatum (Keisuke is probably Chris Sabat)
Atsurou - Scott Freeman
Fumihiro - Chris Cason
Nao - Leah Clark
|Posted by: BOZZ Mar 19 2010, 04:23 PM|
Where exactly on their site are the episodes?
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Mar 19 2010, 05:24 PM|
|Posted by: BOZZ Mar 19 2010, 10:12 PM|
Thanks! I appreciate it! I am checking it out now... and bracing myself...
|Posted by: kyonpalm Mar 19 2010, 10:14 PM|
Same here... sorry Don.
|Posted by: BOZZ Mar 19 2010, 10:19 PM|
| Awfulllll... Just plain awful... There is like no emotion in Tohru's voice near the end of his race... It's like... so odd...
I like the English voice for Ryosuke though... it fits... Keisuke... almost... But man... The English voices feel like they lack emotion (Ha!).
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 19 2010, 11:30 PM|
| Ah, hearing the original BGM made me smile.
I'm liking the script. It sticks very well to the original dialog, and there isn't an overabundance of slang.
The voices? I'm loving them. Everybody seems pretty close to my guesses, save for Takumi. I think it's understandable for Takumi to have a slightly higher pitch in the English version considering that Shinichiro Miki's voice was quite deep to be playing a teenager. It's not terrible, but it's markedly different after listening to subbed Takumi for years. Keisuke was definitely going to be tough to dub, considering how harsh his voice is, but they seemed to find a decent match. He sounds as close as he could ever get. Ryosuke blew my f**king mind. They really found somebody with a good deep voice that wasn't Chris Sabat to nail his lines down.
So, in my opinion, Funimation did a fine job with this. They could have thrown a cheaper cast at this considering that Initial D isn't destined to make a lot of money over here, but they really put some love into it. Good script, good voice cast, and original music. Good on you, Funimation.
|Posted by: BOZZ Mar 19 2010, 11:36 PM|
|Whoa... Tesso... You actually liked the dub? I dunno, I guess I was expecting something better, but the name pronunciations sort of got to me, some of the voices being miscast (Keisuke, Takumi, Itsuki for instance) and the more action-y spots in the episodes there is a total lack of emotion whereas in the original Japanese language version there was some emotion in the dialogue.|
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 19 2010, 11:50 PM|
| I thought it was a stellar job in comparison to the shit peddled by Tokyopop. It could have been so much worse, but they actually seem to care about this.
The only miscasts I've witnessed so far are Eric Vale as Iketani and Chuck Huber as Yuichi. Itsuki sounds pretty spot on in comparison to the original Japanese, Keisuke is basically as close as possible for an English VA, and Takumi, as I explained before, sounds appropriate for his age instead of way too deep as in the Japanese.
Granted, I've only seen Episode 1 dubbed currently. I'll let things happen as I watch more of this and see where it takes me. It might start sucking as it goes on, but so far I'm liking what I'm hearing. I have a pretty good ear when it comes to comparing sounds, and there isn't much as of yet that's making my ears bleed.
Also, I'm getting really tired of Funimation's video player cutting to a commercial every f**king time I skip the intro.
|Posted by: BOZZ Mar 19 2010, 11:55 PM|
|Weird... Check out episode 2... That's where I felt that it was the most lacking in terms of emotion... Although I will say this much... I liked TP's Keisuke English voice...|
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 20 2010, 12:16 AM|
|I didn't notice anything weird in episode 2. Takumi shouting "That's it! That's the line to take!" was particularly great, quickly rebuffed with "Dumbass!" by Tohru.|
|Posted by: bighunt Mar 20 2010, 02:38 AM|
|I'm sorry but, after watching a few segments, the dub is awful. Yuichi is the worst of all. bunta's ok. but takumi, iketani, itsuki, etc.... they just don't sound right to me.|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Mar 20 2010, 06:30 AM|
|It does sound a bit rough around the edges to me. I also kind of cringed because Keisuke said "three-four GT-R" in episode 2 which reminded me of the "three-two" that TP used. However, I think it's not too bad. There are some places where the characters lack emotion that I think could be improved on.|
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 20 2010, 08:20 AM|
|Why is that a shock? It's a direct translation of "san-yon GT-R". Isn't that what people want?|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Mar 20 2010, 08:26 AM|
I guess so...it just sounded a bit off.
I finished all 4 episodes and it did sound pretty good from episode 2 on. The occasional slang is okay because it's just FUNi's way of spicing up the script a bit.
Todd Haberkorn is listed as Keisuke in the credits. Also Greg Ayres is Kenta.
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 20 2010, 08:28 AM|
|Todd Haberkorn as Keisuke is hilarious to me since he was also Itsuki on Shuffle. He went from complete perv to former gang member turned street racer elite.|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Mar 20 2010, 09:41 AM|
He was also Keroro in Sgt. Frog.
It's also funny hearing Greg Ayres as Kenta since I remember him as Negi in Negima...a 9 year old kid to a scouter for Project D and Keisuke's fanboy...
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 20 2010, 11:00 AM|
| So yeah, I don't have any serious issues with the dub. For a series like this, where we've been pretty much stuck with the subs forever, it's understandable that there would be criticisms of the dubbing. After the bullshit that Tokyopop pulled, that criticism can only be so much harsher, so I saw this unhappiness coming. Of course they aren't going to sound the same as the originals. It's just impossible.
Give it a chance. At the very least, you're going to get domestic DVD releases with good translations and crisp visuals, so you'll have high quality subs if you can't stand the dub. Myself, I'm enjoying the dub, so the purchases will have more worth.
|Posted by: BOZZ Mar 20 2010, 12:02 PM|
| I dunno... My main gripe with dubs as been that at moments when there should be emotion displayed in their voice there isn't any...
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 20 2010, 12:09 PM|
|He sounds fairly distraught to me. Definitely not angry, but very displeased with the situation.|
|Posted by: BOZZ Mar 20 2010, 12:11 PM|
Were we watching the same thing? I didn't get that from his voice at all... In the original he sounded angry... I wonder why they changed it to be this way...
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 20 2010, 12:14 PM|
|Well, it WAS episode 2. I'd give them some time to get themselves into the "zone" of things considering this is a completely new kind of anime they're dubbing.|
|Posted by: BOZZ Mar 20 2010, 12:22 PM|
I guess so, but it can't be that hard to get it right... About the whole three-two thing that was mentioned earlier... Although it is a direct translation I think most people here wouldn't call it that but as thirty-two or thirty-four... Minor issue... though...
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 20 2010, 12:26 PM|
| Minor nitpicks, yeah. I have some issues with the dub choices myself but none of them are bad enough to turn me away. Having a dubbed Fourth Stage release is better than never having it in the States at all.
There is a particular scene in Third Stage that will be under my microscope in terms of voice acting. If Takumi can't discuss his feelings with Natsuki convincingly, I'll knock a star off my rating.
|Posted by: BOZZ Mar 20 2010, 12:40 PM|
Well there was that part in the first episode of Fourth Stage that is a flash back to Third Stage...
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 20 2010, 03:10 PM|
|I'm more unhappy with the box set than the dub. They're asking $40+ for 13 episodes, and that's just... no.|
|Posted by: BOZZ Mar 20 2010, 04:01 PM|
|Well if it's $40 then it's not so bad... but anything beyond that is a bit pricey...|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Mar 20 2010, 04:01 PM|
If you order from Rightstuf you pay less than the MSRP.
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 20 2010, 04:11 PM|
|No shit. MSRP is $59.99. Anybody that actually pays that much is retarded.|
|Posted by: BOZZ Mar 20 2010, 05:51 PM|
|Wow... See if it was Blu Ray I would have no problem paying that much... but DVD... quite overpriced...|
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 20 2010, 06:00 PM|
| 60 clams for 12 or 13 episodes on 2 DVDs is just way too much. I could understand $30, but $60 should be for the entire series.
However, this could be a another round of Funimation posting inflated MSRPs and then changing them to sane prices on release day. They did this with Dragon Box 1.
|Posted by: kou yuuzhen Mar 20 2010, 06:21 PM|
| Episodes that just came out are bound to be illogically expensive..... When the fourth stage first came out, one disc with two episodes costs about RM20... So I just waited for the box set and got the whole series for about 60...... And they even have three audio and three subs, good bargain. Unless I was duped into buying a pirated one
Frankly I don't give much thoughts to this Funimation's dub. I've never watched the first English dub too so I can't compare them
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 20 2010, 06:35 PM|
|I'll probably lay off on a Fourth Stage purchase until the entire series is inevitably released in one set later on. I'm more interested in Third Stage.|
|Posted by: BOZZ Mar 20 2010, 07:19 PM|
|I do wonder if there is any hope for a Blu Ray release of any Initial D (I believe N1 mentioned the only candidate available is Fourth Stage) in light of Funimation's push in providing their productions on Blu Ray.|
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 20 2010, 07:32 PM|
| I updated the Initial D wiki page with a few other voices I noticed. From the Third Stage preview, I gleaned that Chris Sabat is playing Kyoichi Sudo.
EDIT: Does anybody know how it would be possible to rip the video from the Funimation site? I'd like to rip these to a flash drive so I can play it on my XBOX.
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Mar 22 2010, 09:02 AM|
No, I don't think it is. If they upload the dub to their Youtube account then you could rip it and convert it but I doubt they will (the sub of the 4 episodes is on there)
You could try using a program like SnagIt or CamStudio to capture the screen but that would probably screw up the frame rate.
I think I've watched the Third Stage trailer 4 times now...most times I've watched an anime trailer ever.
|Posted by: BOZZ Mar 22 2010, 12:51 PM|
You might be able to do it with Safari... It has this menu option called Activity in which you can get the direct link to the flash video (usually works with gametrailers.com for me).
Nevermind... I tried it and it didn't work...
|Posted by: Import_Lexus Mar 23 2010, 04:10 PM|
|Initial D Stage 4 Part 2: June 29, 2010; $59.98; 280 mins|
|Posted by: BOZZ Mar 23 2010, 04:13 PM|
| Well ANN just posted up a more full list of the voice cast here:
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 25 2010, 10:28 AM|
|^ Nothing the credits didn't already tell us.|
|Posted by: touge_rider Mar 26 2010, 12:33 AM|
| Could somebody please try to rip the dub videos off FUNimation's site and put them on YouTube or somethin. Reason is that FUNi does not have the Internet rights for the region which includes Australia (where I live).
If anyone can do that if they have spare time, they will be greatly appreciated.
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 26 2010, 05:00 PM|
| I'm still looking into it. Funimation has done a f**king great job of throwing security layers on top of the actual video file, so it's a pain in the ass to find it. Right now my usual stream rippers are just catching the advertisements and not the actual show, so I'm pulling my hair out trying to figure it out.
Once I rip it, I will convert them to standard AVI files and link them here for everyone to enjoy.
|Posted by: touge_rider Mar 26 2010, 05:22 PM|
|k thx. i liek teh ads Funimation haz posted.|
|Posted by: Jezza_HR Mar 26 2010, 06:11 PM|
|Here's an example on Youtube if people want to see it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP2uq9wLUNY...t&p=DwI6P-N03hY|
|Posted by: Hachi_Roku Mar 26 2010, 07:18 PM|
| What hole was I living in to NOT find out about Funimation's site? I gotta agree that the dub is kinda iffy, but within the first 5 minutes of watching Ep. 1, they've already done three things properly:
1. Original opening theme
2. Unaltered engine sounds
3. No gang-speak
Having the subs concentrated to one place is also a convenience.
|Posted by: Import_Lexus Mar 26 2010, 08:32 PM|
|Oh my goodness, SOLD i love it, they did an excellent job !!!|
|Posted by: BOZZ Mar 26 2010, 09:10 PM|
You forgot a more critical one... No stupid nicknames... but they do have weird pronunciations for some of the names...
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Mar 26 2010, 09:37 PM|
That's always an issue with some FUNi dubs. Negima!? had it with Haruna's name (it's HA roo na not ha ROO na)
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 27 2010, 07:25 AM|
| Now that they've been put on Youtube, they lost the security layers. Ripping them now, and will post them later.
UPDATE: All four dubbed episodes have been ripped and are sitting on my desktop right now... at home, while I'm currently at work. The minute I get home I will start distributing them. Super swearsies.
|Posted by: touge_rider Mar 27 2010, 04:59 PM|
|Don't worry! FUNi has put the fist four episodes of the dub on YouTube a couple of days ago. I had just watched the first episodes and it rocks! Can't wait 'till I watch the rest of the episodes and Third Stage.|
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 27 2010, 05:02 PM|
|I will still upload them for the sake of people that wish to use them. I'm dumping them onto a flash drive and keeping them on my xbox so I don't have to sit through commercials. Yes, my rips do not have commercials.|
|Posted by: Ken Blast Mar 27 2010, 06:23 PM|
| It took me a while to find if they kept the Eurobeat mid-race soundtrack for the FUNi dub, so I checked out their Youtube to see what they had going.
THEY KEPT THE EUROBEAT.
GOOD LORD I'M GIDDY. THEY KEPT THE EUROBEAT!!!
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 27 2010, 06:31 PM|
|Yeah, they kept every bit of music and sound effect intact. They merely supplied English voices and left everything else as it was.|
|Posted by: kou yuuzhen Mar 27 2010, 07:35 PM|
| What Youtube videos? I can just see "This video is unavailable" when I clicked
They must have taken down that thing for copyright issues
|Posted by: kyonpalm Mar 27 2010, 10:07 PM|
I don't have that problem on my end.
For a second there, I thought "holy crap, avex, have you finally gone off the deep end...?"
|Posted by: Tessou Mar 27 2010, 10:35 PM|
| Here you go. All four episodes, commercial free, packed in a zip file.
Initial D Fourth Stage Dub Episodes 1-4
|Posted by: Import_Lexus Mar 30 2010, 10:59 AM|
yep, perfect the way it should of been from the start
and thanks for the upload of the 4 episodes
|Posted by: Godot Mar 30 2010, 08:04 PM|
| I approve. No Nicknames. No Lame Music. Same sound Effects.
Very good VA and dialogue matches with the original.
Although they kinda switched back to roomaji on the 4th ep on the OP.
|Posted by: Bejita Mar 30 2010, 09:42 PM|
Awesome!! Thanks a ton!!!
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Apr 1 2010, 06:44 AM|
They alternate between the Japanese and a translation for the OPs and EDs. I remember they did this for Soul Eater and several other series too (except Negima!? where they actually went the extra mile and dubbed the OP/ED, even putting in the full version of the OP with the spoken parts in one episode)
|Posted by: dmhc69 Apr 2 2010, 04:24 PM|
| probably a bit late but i've found for ripping things from youtube, an add-on for Firefox called DownloadHelper does the trick... most of the time you can grab the format it was originally uploaded as!
either way, thanks Tesso. i'll be looking over these and hoping that they get licensed down here, too.
|Posted by: touge_rider Apr 3 2010, 10:40 PM|
| DUB NEWS!
Ep. 7 & 8 subbed are now on YouTube, expect their respective dubs in the next 1-2 weeks (if they take the same amount of time to post them as they did with the first four eps).
5 & 6 subbed have been already posted, for your information.
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Apr 5 2010, 05:35 AM|
|I don't think they will put dubs up of all the episodes. Usually they just upload 2-4 episodes dubbed then put the rest up subbed.|
|Posted by: Tessou Apr 5 2010, 05:51 AM|
|FUNimation's practice is to provide a few dubbed episodes as a sample to lure potential buyers into, well, buying things. If they posted every episode, there'd be no cash flow because some guy (like me) would just rip them and torrent them out for free.|
|Posted by: Gold_Ultima Apr 5 2010, 02:13 PM|
|Everyone is decent (not great) except for Takumi and Torhu. Man... They are just offensive....|
|Posted by: Onigod21 Apr 5 2010, 04:21 PM|
|Man, I hope Funimation release this on "blu-ray" too.|
|Posted by: bighunt Apr 6 2010, 12:08 PM|
If they do that and keep the original japanese dialogue, i'd definitely buy it!
|Posted by: BOZZ Apr 6 2010, 09:45 PM|
|Although I would love to see the series on Blu Ray, I just don't see it happening... I believe Nomake Wan has previously mentioned, elsewhere on the forums, that they would have to remaster, I believe, the first 2 shows and possibly the movie if they wanted to put it on Blu Ray and have it look decent.|
|Posted by: touge_rider Apr 8 2010, 03:05 PM|
I'll have to disagree with you. There not too bad. Even though they're not the best actors for the characters in the world, they at least match the characters well.
|Posted by: Insig Apr 8 2010, 04:45 PM|
|At least there keeping the songs that come with the anime. BTW when funimation announced all five stages does that mean that there will be a fifth stage or are they talking about the extra stage? Or possibly the movie?|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Apr 8 2010, 05:53 PM|
They have Extra Stage.
|Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 8 2010, 08:55 PM|
FUNi has no say in the production of a Fifth Stage. OB Planning has made no announcements for Fifth Stage. Therefore, keep dreaming.
My curiosity is that they only listed five stages. I know they got First, Second and Extra from TokyoPop. They're releasing Fourth Stage now. I'm assuming they'll also be releasing Third Stage, finally.
In an old trailer TokyoPop had for Initial D, they used scenes from Battle Stage, making me wonder if FUNi also got that license. Same with Battle Stage 2 and Extra Stage 2. Just kinda putting that out there. Would be great if FUNi could do it all, then we'd finally have a full set of official releases.
I also wonder whether they encoded the DVDs to be anamorphic widescreen or if they're using the R2 4:3 letterbox format instead. The original Japanese DVDs for Initial D (except for Extra Stage 2 and Battle Stage 2) are all rather crappy, so it'd be deliciously cool if they remastered the originals into proper DVDs rather than copying the Japanese DVD releases. Icing on the cake, I think.
Go go FUNi!
|Posted by: BOZZ Apr 8 2010, 10:59 PM|
|I dunno if this would be something that would be worth their while to remaster... The title is pretty niche after all...|
|Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 8 2010, 11:12 PM|
That's why I'm curious. Guess we'll find out in May when 3rd and 4th Stage's DVDs are released.
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Apr 9 2010, 02:10 PM|
The thing is FUNi did say they didn't get Battle Stage/Battle Stage 2.
Although I think they will consider it since the Battle Stage CG is better than First Stage's.
|Posted by: kyonpalm Apr 10 2010, 10:03 AM|
Yeah, but that would require them to pay attention to the series and review it further, which unless they're actually that dedicated, I doubt they'd do.
At least not simply because the CG is better.
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Apr 10 2010, 07:17 PM|
|They did go back and review Dance in the Vampire Bund after the fan reaction to them saying it would be censored, so I think they'd look at it and find Battle Stage to have better CG...|
|Posted by: Tessou Apr 10 2010, 08:01 PM|
| What, are you seriously talking about splicing the Battle Stage CGI into First and Second stages? You've got to be kidding. There are too many CGI scenes that weren't covered by Battle Stage, so it would look very disjointed.
Unless Avex decides to reanimate them, it's not going to happen.
|Posted by: kyonpalm Apr 10 2010, 09:55 PM|
Unless I'm mistaken, I think it's about having rights to BS1/2 to release on their own in the future.
|Posted by: Poznanman Apr 11 2010, 07:03 PM|
| Woah, I have no idea where my head has been since this announcement, but I just finally noticed that Stage 3 and 4 are coming to DVD in May. I'm such an idiot.
Ah well. I'm stoked.
A new dub doesn't interest me as I tend to watch everything in it's native language. But from what I previewed of the Dub so far, it is better than TokyoPop's attempts. Man those were horrendous.
Anyways, has anyone pre-ordered Stage 3 and 4 yet?
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Apr 12 2010, 04:55 AM|
|I have done so myself on Rightstuf, it's cheaper than retail.|
|Posted by: BOZZ Apr 16 2010, 12:09 PM|
| So apparently even Funimation can pull a Tokyopop...
This one series they licensed, called Seto no Hanayome (Funi's title is My Bride is a Mermaid) has some really really dumb changes (at least with the subtitles): changing a character's name from Saru (meaning monkey) to Chimp (not so bad), having a character who speaks refined talk like a redneck (not so good), using l33t speak (rage worthy) and replacing a major series pun on the word chivalry (it revolves around the Japanese words "ninkyō" (chivalry) and "ningyo" (mermaid)) with honor among thieves (rage worthy).
The funniest thing is this isn't really the kind of show that would really be shown on TV in North America, so why the stupid subtitles? I'm fairly disappointed in Funi...
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Apr 16 2010, 05:16 PM|
| I have no idea. It's not nearly as bad as TP but that is very odd.
Oh yeah, Third Stage is screening at C2E2 in Chicago this weekend. I wish I could go, but I live way too far from there.
|Posted by: BOZZ Apr 16 2010, 07:45 PM|
|Using l33t speak is just as bad... IMHO...|
|Posted by: Tessou Apr 17 2010, 02:43 PM|
| Kent: WHOA DUDE CHECK OUT RY'S HOT FC!
Random Mook: WORD NIGGA DAT SHIT BE MAD BANGIN YO!
Kent: I HERD NEXT WEEK HE DONE GONNA MURDER OUT DEM TWENTAY FO'S.
Random Mook: SHEEEEEEEIT FOR RIZZY?
Kent: YOU KNOW IT DOOD. DAT MOFUGGA GOT HIS GAME ON HELLA TIGHT.
K.T.: B*TCH ASS POSERS TALKIN BOUT MAH BOI?
Kent: F**K YEAH BIG DADDY K! WE BEEFED ABOUT HOW RY'S SHIT IS ALL EXTRA CRISPY UP IN THIS B*TCH!
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Apr 27 2010, 11:21 AM|
|So according to a review of Third Stage, it's not in anamorphic widescreen, which basically means it's letterboxed and you have to zoom in to make it widescreen. Kind of odd, unless someone can confirm it was like this before with the Region 2 DVDs or HK DVDs.|
|Posted by: Tessou Apr 27 2010, 02:00 PM|
| It was letterboxed on my HK bootleg. My tv automatically scales that stuff so I don't have to worry about it.
I really only care about two things:
1. We're getting it legally.
2. It's dubbed by a competent company.
|Posted by: touge_rider Apr 29 2010, 11:24 PM|
| I was having a look at the FUNimation sub for ep 10 - The Saitama Area's Ultimate Weapon - and I couldn't help noticing the sub notes on Sakamoto, stating he was a "Ferrari racer" and a "fanatic".
I hope that they don't ultimately change Sakamoto's character from a rallyist to whatever. If that happens, FUni won't be that much better thean TP - changing sections of the story which are out of context.
|Posted by: Tessou May 2 2010, 09:54 AM|
|There will be a torrent for Third Stage once I get my hands on a copy. You're all welcome.|
|Posted by: Nomake Wan May 2 2010, 12:46 PM|
Winner. Who's the man? You da man.
I'm gonna have to get myself those DVDs as well, though it'll be cool to see what format they picked.
touge_rider: At what timestamp was that subtitle? I don't really see any comments that would mention Sakamoto's previous work in episode 10. I also went ahead and did a preliminary check on Sakamoto across the Japanese wikis and didn't really find any mentions either.
|Posted by: Godot May 2 2010, 05:31 PM|
|Funny thing was last week when i picked up my Gundam 00F Manga, I saw Third stage and vol 1 of 4th stage at Orbit.|
|Posted by: touge_rider May 4 2010, 11:56 PM|
|3:04 for Ferrari; 3:18 for fanatic|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 May 8 2010, 06:05 AM|
|My copies of Third Stage and Fourth Stage part 1 shipped from Rightstuf|
|Posted by: Tessou May 8 2010, 11:38 AM|
| Oh, hey guys. I found something today.
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Third Stage torrent pending. It's being ripped as I type this.
Here's the menu. The BGM is "If You Wanna Stay" from the soundtrack.
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Only trailers for special features.
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EDIT: Here it is, set in stone: Third and Fourth Stage torrents will be in this thread on FRIDAY, MAY 14TH. Separating the Fourth Stage episodes is eating up more time than I originally anticipated, but I'll be back in my usual internet-rich house on Friday (FOR GOOD) to seed the living shit out of the torrent so you all can enjoy the fantastic newness.
- So how's the video, you all asked? It's in fullscreen letterbox format for everything except the menus. Third and Fourth Stages, both letterboxed. It's a little annoying.
- All audio is in 5.1, which is pretty much par for the course these days.
- There are no special features aside from Funimation trailers. I didn't expect anything more.
|Posted by: Möbius May 9 2010, 06:31 AM|
I wish I found stuff like that.
|Posted by: Poznanman May 9 2010, 07:56 AM|
Yah, me too.
My order gets shipped tomorrow so hopefully I'll be watching them in no time. I kinda forgot when this was going to be released too.
@Tesso Thanks for posting some early pics!
|Posted by: Tessou May 9 2010, 09:03 AM|
|There's a dub error on the episode where Sakamoto is preparing for the race with Takumi. As the Saitama Alliance folks are discussing the effects of the coming rain, Nobuhiko states that "both cars are FDs so they're on an even playing field". This is referring to the AE86 and the Cappuccino.|
|Posted by: Möbius May 9 2010, 09:14 AM|
Hahaha, that's funny. It had to be that specific typo for it to work though, so maybe it was intentional.
|Posted by: Tessou May 9 2010, 10:07 AM|
|There is also some heavy swearing in the dub. Wataru spouts "Man, this rainy weather is bullshit" in the same episode.|
|Posted by: BOZZ May 9 2010, 11:31 AM|
|So is it true that they changed up Sakamoto's character to be a Ferrari driver that someone mentioned earlier?|
|Posted by: Tessou May 9 2010, 12:03 PM|
|None of the dialogue in the dub suggests that he is a Ferrari driver. He says many times that he's a rally driver in the dub.|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 May 9 2010, 01:10 PM|
| So someone doing the subs messed up...ah well.
The video being letterboxed is kind of weird but I guess that's the way it goes. Can't wait for my shipment to come in.
|Posted by: Tessou May 9 2010, 01:43 PM|
| It gets really nasty when Iketani gets angry at the Tokyo guys. Not verbatim:
"Asshole. How dare you come up to our turf and diss our rides! Dicks. So far all I've seen is you passing two underpowered cars on an uphill. That's just a load of BS and you know it, talking all that crap."
Or better yet, Miki's impressive swooning:
"Oh Natsuki, we should just go and hang out just like we did in the good ol' days. You used to do anything and everything I asked to the tee."
|Posted by: Nomake Wan May 9 2010, 03:00 PM|
|Ah, so they used the Region 2 DVD source. Well... that's okay I suppose. I'll still buy 'em. Still, kinda too bad they couldn't get their hands on the original masters.|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 May 9 2010, 03:03 PM|
|A lot of Funi dubs have script changes so they can sound a little edgier. (Personally, I thought the Negima!? dub script was GENIUS.) I hope they at least keep in the references to Tsuchiya in First Stage because they are pretty important.|
|Posted by: BOZZ May 9 2010, 03:55 PM|
I dunno, that sort of thing sort of makes me think of Tokyopop's dub, but slightly edgier...
|Posted by: Tessou May 10 2010, 01:17 PM|
|There isn't a lot of slang used. That was just one of the very few eye-opening spots in the dub. The original version of that scene wasn't much different, mind you.|
|Posted by: Import_Lexus May 11 2010, 07:46 AM|
|awesome stuff, i'm picking up stage 3 today t my local shop, will wait out on the box set for stage 4, short on money haha|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 May 11 2010, 12:02 PM|
|Third Stage arrived today and I watched it. The dub was great. They did stick some script changes in but it mostly stays the same.|
|Posted by: Tessou May 11 2010, 03:01 PM|
| Fourth Stage is great when Itsuki gets his turbo installed. I was slightly annoyed by the constant shouts of "It's a Silvia One-Five!" when I'm used to "S15" (it even says S15 in the subs) in English.
The dub for the most part is pretty good. There are a few hiccups, like when Iketani requests to be on Takumi's insurance before deciding to challenge the S15. The English dub removes the bit where it's Takumi's insurance he's requesting, so it just sounds like a stupid attempt at Iketani being funny.
Another hiccup I winced through was the introduction of Sakamoto. Nobuhiko uses fairly basic English to describe some race information, and Wataru stops him because he thinks he's using too many big words. As Nobuhiko tries to defend himself, Sakamoto says "Yeah, man, it's retarded".
FACT: Throughout episodes 1-12, Keisuke only says "shit" once in the dub. This is hilarious considering the guy swears all the time in the original Japanese.
|Posted by: AE86Racer May 11 2010, 04:11 PM|
|I Just bought Stage 3 Of the NEW funimation dub version and i gotta saying after owning both tokyopop stage 1 & 2 and stage 3 and 4 in Japanese, I gotta say "they some what dropped the ball with the actor's voice they chose for some of the charters...Tak sounds like he's 30 and not like a clueless 18yr old...the boss sounds too old and soft spoken... even the pronunciation of some peoples name and places just sounds bad.|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 May 11 2010, 09:42 PM|
| Name pronunciation is always an issue with some Funimation dubs. They go with what sounds natural.
Also I think Joel McDonald pulled off Takumi's voice fine. Yuichi did sound off but the voice kind of stuck for me.
Josh Grelle fits Itsuki well. He plays a lot of crazy sounding characters so this is a good role for him.
Brina Palencia was stellar as Natsuki. She made her sound pushy during the scenes when she should sound pushy. It helps that she's voiced Holo in Spice and Wolf who has an almost similar demeanor at times.
|Posted by: touge_rider May 11 2010, 10:52 PM|
I thinks that's because they had translated that part to what it 'roughly' meant in English, as they (the Japanese) pronounced the fifteen as ichi-go, meaning literally "one-five". The proper Japanese pronunciation for fifteen is juu-go.
|Posted by: Slade May 12 2010, 12:23 PM|
| I was thinkin of pickin it up?Is it better then the Tokyopop version?Did they change the Japanese VAs too?
Any idea when theyre goinga release the 1st 2 stages?
|Posted by: BOZZ May 12 2010, 12:46 PM|
| Weird, I thought I posted already... Alright here it goes again!
@Slade: They kept the same Japanese voice actors, I don't think they would change them or have the rights to. As for whether it is better or worse than the Tokyopop versions we can take solace in what Tesso and a few others have said in that the dub is better but it depends on whether or not you consider some of the hiccups in the dub to be a serious problem. For instance, some of the names of characters and cars (S one five vs a more intelligent sounding S fifteen) are off, there is swearing (to me it came across as Tokyopop version 2.0) and casting choices being off for some characters.
|Posted by: Slade May 12 2010, 01:26 PM|
| Thanks Bozz .
I was just watching some clips on the funimation site and it looks good to me for the dub,I may stick with the sub tho just for old time sakes.In a way Im just glad we got it,I didnt think it would ever be released.I hope 1st and 2nd stage will come out as well down the road
|Posted by: Tessou May 12 2010, 03:02 PM|
| The subs replace any instance of the f-word with "friggin".
I watched Third Stage again and came out of it quite happy. I really like the VA choices now, especially Natsuki and Bunta. Kogashiwa has some great lines too, although I'm very partial to the original VA's battle cries as he's hitting Irohazaka's jumps. "KONNA SHOUBU KATTA!!!" was changed to "I GOT THIS IN THE BAAAAG!!" Oh well. Kai was always one of my favorite characters regardless of VA, because he's just damn crazy once he gets behind the wheel.
Fourth Stage also came out very nicely. It was somewhat shaky at the start and it's rather obvious that Funimation started out their entire Initial D dub project with Fourth Stage episode 1, but it smoothed out be episode 5. I didn't like Tomoyuki's VA, though. He sounds WAY too young compared to the original's deep booming voice (he sounds younger than Sakai and Daiki).
|Posted by: touge_rider May 12 2010, 10:41 PM|
|BTW, Tesso, how's the torrent of Third & Fourth Stage coming along?|
|Posted by: Slade May 12 2010, 10:44 PM|
|Any ideas if Funimation are going to do the Battle Stages as well?|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 May 13 2010, 04:46 AM|
| They said they didn't get Battle Stage or Battle Stage 2.
I'd like to see them get both and release them in a boxset since new fans may wonder what happened during the ER34 and DC2 races.
|Posted by: Tessou May 14 2010, 05:54 AM|
Third Stage torrent is being taken care of as I type this. Fourth Stage will be released at a to-be-determined date as it's a bit large. We're trying to see about uploading it all to the IDW server first so the torrents can be spread easier.
So yeah, Third Stage will be out today at some point. I need to take care of some mandatory things on base now that I've completed my leadership school and shit, so that takes priority, but once that's done I'll bang out the torrent for you all.
|Posted by: Slade May 14 2010, 07:48 AM|
I sure hope so Then again look how long it took to get 3rd and 4th stage out,the last DVD Tokyopop released was Extra Stage and that was 2006
|Posted by: Phantom_R32 May 14 2010, 11:25 AM|
| I just watched the first and second episode of the 4th stage dub on youtube. I'm pretty impressed. The only thing I am dissapointed about is the tone of their voice when something exciting is happening.
Like when Tohru got passed.. It should be like "THERE ISN'T ENOUGH SPACE TO PASS! WHAT ARE YOU DRIVING ON???". But instead he sounds like "What are you driving on man? How did you pass me?". But it's still tolerable.
I'm going to head out to Best Buy soon to see if they have them there. If not i'll just order the movie and the two 4th stage box sets online.
|Posted by: Josh May 14 2010, 11:36 AM|
|I drove out to a fairly out of the way Best Buy just to pick up the Third Stage and Fourth Stage pt 1 DVDs. Worth the drive. I'd honestly never seen Third Stage with it's aspect ratio not all weirdly squished, and with all of it's studio/copyright screens and end credits intact. It was a good experience. I'd only seen it on Chinese bootleg DVD previously. Glad to finally have a legit copy. I'm pleased with what FUNimation did for us here, I especially loved that sticker they put on the front of the boxes it's like they were apologizing for what Tokyopop did, haha. Can't wait until next month (or July, I forget) for the next DVD set and I realllly can't wait until they get all the previous stuff done. I'm really happy with the product now. It's a good day to be an I-D fan.|
|Posted by: Import_Lexus May 14 2010, 12:23 PM|
Yeah i know, the sticker was funny
and yes it sure if great being a initial d fan
|Posted by: Slade May 14 2010, 01:27 PM|
|I just got my sets too,definatly worth it.The sticker is funny|
|Posted by: Tessou May 14 2010, 05:29 PM|
|Update on the rip. The Third Stage DVD seems to have some sort of protection on it that is giving me a hell of a time. I still haven't cracked it.|
|Posted by: ZeetherKID77 May 14 2010, 06:27 PM|
|I found it weird that Third Stage started with that video of crashing waves and some Japanese text...what is that anyway?|
|Posted by: Tessou May 14 2010, 06:34 PM|
|Yep, Handbrake simply cannot figure out how to rip the f**king DVD. I'm not very happy right now.|
|Posted by: Slade May 14 2010, 10:26 PM|
Perhaps the production company?
Well I just watched 3rd stage and the 1st DVD of 4th.So far its ok,I dont really like Kentas voice tho,also the gas station manager has the voice of Hiei from YuYu Hakusho so thats a lil hard to get use to .
Also I noticed my 3rd stage dvd skips for about second right before Kai and Takumi get in their cars and race,I dont if anyone else is having that problem?
Another thing is from my HK bootleg of 3rd Stage I remember a scene with Takumi washing the 86 in front of the Tofu store,now am I getting that confused with another stage or what? Sorry its been awhile
|Posted by: BOZZ May 14 2010, 11:12 PM|
|Yeah, that is definitely the production company... I've seen it in other productions as well...|
|Posted by: Tessou May 15 2010, 05:57 AM|
That scene is not from Third Stage. Takumi washes the AE86 in front of the tofu shop in First Stage.
|Posted by: Slade May 15 2010, 10:51 AM|
Ah thank you Tesso,I knew I had it confused with another stage.
Now we just have to wait till the end of June for the next set .
|Posted by: Tessou May 15 2010, 12:06 PM|
| So the Third Stage (and probably Fourth Stage as well) torrents don't look like they'll be happening anytime soon. The DVDs are protected somehow and three DVD ripping programs have failed to do the trick on them with any amount of success. I'm still trying, but it doesn't look good.
I'll keep you updated if things change.
|Posted by: Nomake Wan May 15 2010, 01:10 PM|
DVD Decrypter to rip the VOB files to hard drive, DGIndex to create d2v index files and rip the AC3 audio tracks, MeGUI to turn that output into MP4? I've yet to see a DVD that that method doesn't work on.
Guess I should head over to Best Buy after work and see if I can pick up the DVDs myself. If there really is some sort of new DVD encryption scheme I'll be surprised.
|Posted by: Tessou May 15 2010, 02:10 PM|
| ^ I'll look into that. I really want to push this out to IDW.
UPDATE: DVD Decrypter shit the bed trying to work with the Third Stage DVD as well. Maybe you will have better luck with it, but I'm at the end of my rope as far as ripping this goddamn disc goes.
Seriously though, guys. Check it out if you can. The dub is very well done and the video is much better quality than the bootleg versions I know you all have.