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Possible plagiarism| Sando | |
Shmuck  Group: Members Posts: 7 Member No.: 45,680 Joined: Jun 29th 2015 Location: Los Angeles, California | I was listening to" If You Stay With Me" by Sara and noticed an oddly familiar riff from 0:09 to 0:26. This riff I'm talking about sounds a lot like "When the Sun Goes Down" by Ken Blast from 0:20 to 0:36. I'm not sure if they're made by the same producer or record label, but what are your takes on the situation? |
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| Lebon14 | Posted: Oct 12 2015, 04:56 PM | ||
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HOLY CRAP. Now, that's a ressemblance. Yeah, both songs were produced by Delta. Sara's song was written by "L.Gelmetti, A.Gilardi, C.Varola" and "When The Sun Goes Down" was written by "Travis Stebbins and V.Degiorgio". Have you heard of the word "tribute"? I think that that it applies here. Travis probably likes that song a lot and threw a tribute to that song in the intro of "When The Sun Goes Down". It happens a lot. Not just in eurobeat. | ||
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| skibblesx | Posted: Oct 12 2015, 06:58 PM |
Frog Lord Group: Advanced Members Posts: 716 Member No.: 43,002 Joined: Feb 20th 2014 Location: United States | daddy dj/dota/pretty rave girl level connection here |
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| Nomake Wan | Posted: Oct 12 2015, 07:28 PM |
ShiMACHaze Group: Advanced Members Posts: 19,542 Member No.: 5,394 Joined: Feb 5th 2005 Location: Drydock | There's also sampling to consider. They could be using a common sample. For instance, just today I came across three songs that all used the exact same sample for their intro. I know not the source of the sample, but it's curious to hear something and go, "Wait, haven't I heard this...?" |
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| xiao | Posted: Oct 12 2015, 07:43 PM |
moon bunny Group: XIAO Posts: 5,735 Member No.: 13,323 Joined: Oct 4th 2005 Location: Update Profile | Ditto on the subject matter~ First time I heard Ike Ike back in the j00ro-mahha days, I was like... cho-tomatoes!! This sounds a lot like... nah, I'm probly just trippin'.  |
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| Renmazuo | Posted: Oct 19 2015, 07:00 AM |
IDW Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 77 Member No.: 29,693 Joined: Jun 2nd 2008 Location: Update Profile | Super Eurobeat is notorious for ripping their own songs a la Space Boy and The Final Countdown. |
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| The Sixth Element | Posted: Oct 19 2015, 10:49 PM | ||
matter intangible Group: Members Posts: 394 Member No.: 44,779 Joined: Sep 28th 2014 Location: Los Angeles, CA |
Wut?  | ||
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| Ken Blast | Posted: Oct 21 2015, 06:08 PM |
Ken Blast Group: Members Posts: 104 Member No.: 35,048 Joined: Mar 3rd 2010 Location: SF Bay Area, California | Oh wow, just found out about this a little bit ago! I would like to clarify something about this— while the chord progression between the two IS similar (if rather common), I actually have not heard "If You Stay With Me" by Sara until... well, just a few minutes ago! And the resemblance is uncanny. The introduction to the version I sent Laurent, originally called "When The Wolves Sing", had an entirely different introduction. (It was so utterly bad, listening to it now... I'm not horribly surprised they didn't go with it!) After I sent the original version, the MIDI, a couple takes of the synth brass, and my vocals, I did not know how it would sound until I received the first version, originally intended for Super Euro Freak Vol.2. I loved it, and had no inkling that any elements of it (other than the vocal sample in the intro, "CLICK THE RED BUTTON FOR A TRIP TO SPACE" bit) were potentially used in other songs. ...so yeah, they seem pretty darn similar! I'm just as surprised as you guys. But nothing I provided for the final version suggested a specific/explicit relationship to this song. I can see now that Laurent wanted WTSGD to be a bit of a spiritual successor... and I'm down with that I guess! But please do not accuse me of plagiarism, or Newfield of... well, ripping himself off, I guess? This post has been edited by Ken Blast on Oct 21 2015, 06:22 PM |
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| xiao | Posted: Oct 21 2015, 08:57 PM | ||
moon bunny Group: XIAO Posts: 5,735 Member No.: 13,323 Joined: Oct 4th 2005 Location: Update Profile |
Ponybeat's awesome, don't be ashamed~ Plus, it makes a helluva lot more cash than Initial D... next thing you now OB Planning's gonna start asking Hasbro for outsource cad'work on the 2017 film. XD | ||
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| Ken Blast | Posted: Oct 21 2015, 09:33 PM | ||
Ken Blast Group: Members Posts: 104 Member No.: 35,048 Joined: Mar 3rd 2010 Location: SF Bay Area, California |
I sincerely hope SPB is not out-earning SEB. | ||
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| xiao | Posted: Oct 21 2015, 09:48 PM | ||
moon bunny Group: XIAO Posts: 5,735 Member No.: 13,323 Joined: Oct 4th 2005 Location: Update Profile |
hahaha, mea culpa. I was out of the country for a while, and TV & internet were scarce; so I'm still catching up on approx 5 years of awesome music/shows. SPB outselling SEB? Carzy train! What we need to do is put our hands together and merge them~ add a dash of TohoBeat in between, and we got the new in-tripple-national hit.  | ||
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| The Sixth Element | Posted: Oct 21 2015, 09:49 PM | ||
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OMG Travis!!! U don't come here a lot | ||
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| Ken Blast | Posted: Oct 21 2015, 09:56 PM | ||
Ken Blast Group: Members Posts: 104 Member No.: 35,048 Joined: Mar 3rd 2010 Location: SF Bay Area, California |
I don't! Nothing personal, I just haven't had much time to swing by. Coincidentally, I just picked up an Initial D 8 card, from the new Round 1 that opened up in Eastridge in the city I just moved out of. If anyone's in the South Bay of the SF Bay Area, you might just catch me at one of the machines~! And also I might pop on here to learn how to get good at a game I should already be good at. | ||
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| Streamline | Posted: Oct 22 2015, 05:55 PM | ||
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Hey Travis! Hopefully you remember me from your livestreams, I brought Kaylen in too! I hope I get to run into you at Round 1 one of these days.  | ||
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| The Sixth Element | Posted: Oct 22 2015, 07:57 PM | ||
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Someday I'll beat you with my Prius in Initial D 8  | ||
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| xiao | Posted: Oct 23 2015, 02:45 AM |
moon bunny Group: XIAO Posts: 5,735 Member No.: 13,323 Joined: Oct 4th 2005 Location: Update Profile | Arcade Stage 9 is gonna have Cirno's Pearl Blue BRZ... ...meaning, it's gonna freeze up the machine and make the screen explode stalactites when it says GO!  |
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| Lebon14 | Posted: Oct 23 2015, 10:57 AM | ||
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LOL. I approve. | ||
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