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Good advice. But will they let coloured people try the guns?

Because I don't want to go there and then ask to try....and then I hear "REQUESTING BACKUP....COLOURED MAN HERE TRYING TO RENT A GUN....MUST BE A TERRORIST\THIEF\HOLDUP"

This post has been edited by Dave Rodgers on Oct 31 2006, 06:29 PM

Shooting 22s is fun. I take my niece with me to the range also, shes only 11...she can only handle the 22s.

If your of age already, your pops shouldnt mind if you borrow the rifle for some fun plinking. And if your dad was really kool, you can give him the cash to buy you a handgun. In most states it is completely legal for a parent to give their kids any legal firearm...and in some states they will allow youngsters to rightfully hold/own a firearm even if they are under 18 as long as it was given by the parent with the parents consent.

With my dad's Marlin, it's not about what age I am, it's just that it's more of an Anderson family prop...

My step-mom wants to go down to The Bottom (One of her relatives on her side of the family owns some property out in southwestern Kentucky, somewhere in the middle of nowhere, that includes some forrest land, and "The Bottom" is a part of their property, about a quarter-mile to a half-mile into the forrest that's maybe an eighth-mile in lowered elevation from the entrance) one of these days and shoot guns off there...My dad says if we get to do that, he'll buy some ammo for his rifle...My step-mom's brothers will also bring their guns, and I'm sure my older cousin Brad will bring his Marlin 30-30...

I want a handgun (Even Kentucky gun laws don't care about the posession of a handgun, it's just more about the buying), but I'm content with myself starting out on a rifle for now...

haha, a Beagle(941) owner. My dad has one in 9mm as well. I have more trigger time with that thing then every other gun I've shot combined. lol
Suprised you said any walther.. unless your refuring to just the new ones? I've heard a lot of flak regarding their famed ppk series, at least the s&w made walther's(yeah yeah I curoius about the bond gun myself, shoot me)
Also, any reason you recommend avoiding subcompact guns(if he doesnt intend to carry) but recommend kel-tec ?

Cheap pistols in, and under the glock range that many people have recommended to me are teh cz75's and ruger p95, recently rented both as I'm in the market myself and I for what very little my opinion actually matters I loved both of them. Even the ruger, which is rather tank like compared to the sleak cz. Totally different feel, I would think most, including myself would prefure the feel of the CZ. Cant comment on reliabilty though since I just rented them and with maybe 100 or so rounds each nothing borked. Lots of praise go to both guns in that regard, especially ruger from what I've been told.. It seems like the word "tank" goes hand in hand with their guns.. *shrugs
In more of the glock price range their is the Springfield Armory XD series(previously hs2000) which are apperently the new it gun in this price range and there is no shortage or rave reviews around them. It's basicly the 'glock' for people who dont like 'glocks'. They come with a 1911 type grip safety and a trigger safety, and the have a more traditional vertical grip angle were as the glocks are more diagnal.. which some people love and others hate.
I'm about to put some money down on a two tone XD9 service. Only thing that is stopping me is the fact that christmas season is coming and I still have a shit job.
If ends dont meet out and I have to go abit cheaper I'll most likely snag a cz75 SA.

Two of my friends have the older PPK series Walthers and both are fine. I see nothing wrong with them. I mentioned, I would not recommend a sub-compact, but also listed the Keltec. Im not opposed to getting a sub-compact, just dont feel it isnt needed "if you can not carry". Only reason why I mention Keltec is because I was not sure if he has the option to carry...if he did, than get a Keltec. Get it?

My best friend had a XD. 50rds and he sold it to my other friend, and now he regrets buying it. I am dead accurate with that pistol, but I fukin hate it to DEATH. That stupid trigger they call a safety...that does not work for me at all. All that extra slack when squeezing, than the trigger goes, and than the trigger has to go all the way to the front to set... Feels like crap and in my opinion is only for public safety when talking LEO drawing a gun on someone and not accidentally shooting them. Try rapid firing with that thing, it is possible but not to easy and friendly. IMO that pistol was made for LE, it is perfect for them...and that is it, not for citizens or the military. And the looks of the XD, just as bad as the Glocks...much rather have a HK if getting a polymer pistol. If I were you, get the CZ. The CZ is proven for decades, and it is still far from being obsolete. There are 3 guns in this world that are the most copied...and the CZ is one of them.

This post has been edited by 1slowsupra on Nov 5 2006, 02:41 AM

Seems all the polymer guns take on the same goddamn shape; If you were to set down on a table next to each other any GLOCK, a Springfield XD, and the CZ 100, you would hardly be able to tell any distinguishable differences apart...

Only polymer I could ever see myself with are the compact Jericho 941s...I don't like polymers, since I'd rather take durability over weight; Rather feel like I'm firing a gun, and not a toy...

All the HKs are polymer, they have their distinctive shape that I love, and sets them far from the Glocks. Kimber has a polymer line for their 1911s, as well as STi, Para, and a few others. And Sig makes a few awesome polymer frame pistols as well...Very distictive and different from the Glock. All the plastic pistols that look like Glocks are the ones trying to replace it.

I only listed those three of the top of my head since they're the most recognizable polymer guns (Ohh, the irony)...

What HKs are polymer?

This post has been edited by MidnightViper88 on Nov 5 2006, 02:55 PM

The Heckler&Koch USP for one.

You might know it better as the Peashooter you get at the start of a round.

i like the m14s and mp5s

m14 = classic gotta love them

HKs specialize in polymer weapons. IMO they are the greatest gun company ever. PSG1, MP5, G3, HK91, UMP, SL8, G36, OICW, PDW/MP7, and now the HK416...those are HK military weapons that are second to none.

All of HKs pistols are polymer also. USP, Match, Expert, Elite, Tactical, P2000, and the infamous Mark23. Id kill for a Mark23...it is the official SOCOM pistol and is listed as a "offensive" firearm. Not sure you if you seen Tears of the Sun...that movie has a great scene of them useing the Mark23. The $2400 price tag prevents me from affording one right now.



This post has been edited by 1slowsupra on Nov 6 2006, 01:33 AM

hmm. how much use do their ppk's get? Are they german or the s&w model ppk's? Just curious as all, I dig the guns look and feel but I've heard soo many horror stories about them from just about every person/source I've listened to over the years. *shrugs
I've heard mixxed opinions about the xd's trigger as well. People tell me it takes time to get used too but it didnt bother me for the half a dozen rounds I shot with it so I have no real opinion about it, keeping in mind I'm far from an experienced shooter who's opinion should be relivent.
*funny offtopic sidenote, when it comes to guns and the discussions of guns the factor of 'opinion' regarding weapon comparisons is almost prevalent then even a musical instrament. Funny since music being an art which has a value to an individual soley based on their opinion and taste.
Glad to see(more) praise regarding the CZ though. I swear after toying with it I felt as if something was wrong with me since I liked the cheap basturd(compared to a handfull of other guns that got passed around in our group). That being before I even bothered to do any research on them.
Since posting that though I walked into a local gunstore and noticed that they are selling for well above 450 bucks. :/ not quite what I had expected after seeing them from 350/400 range.
I've never fired a sig or even picked up an HK. Is it possible or common to pick up a used(but well taken care of) model in 9mm just south of $500.

The PPK models my friends own I believe are German models. I will have to ask them later when I see them. I think they are ok, nothing really super about them...the James Bond movies really glorified them. Having any gun star in a movie can really boost the guns reputation.

Your right about personal preferance in regards to shooting guns is much like music and instruments. Everyone has their own ideals and flavors. I just feel the guns I have listed up top will get them on the right track faster and easier. Why jump in to the deep end when your just a begineer? You have to crawl before you walk, and you have to walk before you can run. I myself started off with a Sig P220ST, and I wish I can turn back time...I love the gun to death now and it is my second favorite, but I do feel it was the wrong gun for me to start off with, and I wasted a lot of time, effort, and ammo trying to shoot right and develop my skill. Everyone who is clueless about shooting feels it is just point and shoot...which is far from the truth. Much like with drifting, most newbs think it is as easy as power sliding around corners.

If you feel comfortable with a CZ, if it felt perfect in your hands, and if you hit the target...than I think you found your match. The more research you do on the CZ the more you will find out how high it ranks in the food chain...it is WAY up there. The ergonmics, grip, weight, and angle is just perfect reguardless of hand size or type of shooting. I have yet to hear anyone say anything bad about the CZ. And it does beat out the Beretta in ALL aspecs...the only reason the US Gov. didnt go with the CZ pistol is because at that time the pistol was made in a Communist country. Even if the price of the pistol is +$450, you are still getting a lot of pistol for your money. If they jacked the prices up to $800, it would still be worth it.

It is common to find police trade in Sigs for $500 or below. Right now Turners has German police trade in P225s for $399...but I hear they are very worn. I would look for the police trade in's that have been looked over by the Sig factory. Sig also has good customer service...they will fix anything that goes wrong on the pistol. As for the HK, I hear of some police trade in HKs but they go fast. They will not last a week in the display case. But personally, I love the Sigs...the recoil and shots are easily controllable than the HKs, which is why I sold my HK 40 and have two Sigs.

This post has been edited by 1slowsupra on Nov 7 2006, 12:37 AM

Although I'm almost certain it they dont... by anychance can one get a cz75 compact in SA ?

Also, how hard is it to find holsters for CZ75'S?

Hate to sound like a retard 15 minutes late with a responce...

...but I was wondering; Of any H&K firearm, how much of it is built with polymer materials? Like say with the USP; I know they incorporate polymer into the magazine build...Anything else on the USP polymer?

This post has been edited by MidnightViper88 on Nov 10 2006, 04:50 PM

Not sure if they offer compacts in SA. Might want to check out their website...or look around. I know there are hundreds of holsters for the CZ75s...a gun that popular has a huge aftermarket following.

They very, especially on the rifles. I know the SL8/G36 is about 85% polymer and they are considered to be battle proven reliable. The USPs...the frame, some parts like trigger and safety are polymer. The slide and internal parts are metal. The frame is reinforced with inbedded steel liners...im sure the rifle receivers are the same way.

Also, the USP (fullsize) mags are plastic...but the USP Compact, and I think the Mark23 and elite, mags are all metal. The metal ones are more favorable.



This post has been edited by 1slowsupra on Nov 11 2006, 12:45 PM

Alrightly then, let's try this one more time, eh? Airsofts in that thread, firearms in this thread...

I got a serious question for y'all.

Do you all use guns as penis enlargement devices for that lack of equipment?

[sarcasm]Nope, I got my Cobra for that. I have guns to kill paper.[/sarcasm]

This post has been edited by Solid Snake on Feb 1 2007, 01:24 PM

"This is my rifle, this is my gun. This is for fighting, this is for fun."

God, I'm so watching "Full Metal Jacket" this weekend...



Continuing from the other thread about the whole 5.56mm NATO vs. 7.62mm NATO discussion...Each have their own strengths and weaknesses...The 7.62 is better when it comes to engaging the target over an extended distance via your designated marksman/sniper, but the 5.56 is probably better suited for close quarters combat due to it's relativly compact size and weight...

Can't beat an M14/M21/M25, but the US Army SDM-R and USMC SAM-R M16 derivatives are also fine long-distance rifles...I've been more fond of the M4 Carbine over the M16 patterns, but I would kill for an SAM-R; Those things are the absolute definition of "badass"...

What the f**k are you talking about, you f**king nub? Distance, yes, but it's not the only defining thing...7.62x51mm is best suited for it's long effective ranges and large kinetic energy while the 5.56x45mm is best suited for it's higher muzzle velocity and lighter cartridge weight...Get your shit straight; And if you want the best of both worlds, get a 6.8x43mm...

Oh wait, I did...

"The post you are quoting is over 1526 days old."

Oh f**k, Edo Tensei! Thread necromancy, prepare for zombie infestation!

Given the slight increase in firearms purchases (Particularly with me and am3) and discussions of such, I suppose now is as any of a time to resurrect this thread to redirect to a more relevant thread...

Hmm...I dunno, how do we re-kick things off...Show your shit off?

DPMS Panther Arms Mod. A-150 carbine, chambered in 6.8x43mm SPC; 16" barrel, 25-round 6.8 magazine, forward assist, MIL-SPEC 1913 rail on the upper receiver...I affectionately have named her "Yūna"...

Pictures are taken when I first bought it; I really want to take some more artistic stuff with my rifle...






I've got a whole bunch of stuff planned for this rifle...For starters, I wanna get an upper receiver assembly chambered in 5.56mm so I can also fire off .223/5.56 with my rifle, in addition to the 6.8; That's my first ...Second thing would have to be an optical sight; A Trijicon ACOG would really be nice, but that might have to wait until next year's tax returns if I want to make it "affordable"... Reflex sights are what I want to go for, but even something like an EOTech is pretty pricey, if only half of what an ACOG would cost...I might also plan on getting a quad-rail guard for the barrel, so I can use attachments with it, like a flashlight and a foregrip...Somewhere down the line, I might also give it a desert tan paintjob, the same thing I did with my airsoft CAR-15, in the same design as the M4 Carbine's default skin in Modern Warfare 2...

But I'm really getting ahead of myself...I really need to get an upper receiver first and do some dual cartridge shooting to familiarize myself with the weapon in live fire first before I decorate it with bling...

Didn't even know there was a 6.8mm cartridge. Nice rifle though I don't want to think how much one of those can set someone back.

This is still my top choice in a firearm purchase when I get around to it.

/me likes.

I have a Sig Sauer P226 9mm. Below it's shown with an airsoft counterpart. (Pic taken using this setup. Foam core box taped together, Home Depot lights, and tripod mounted DSLR with 50mm lens).



I have only had a chance to take it out once, but it shot wonderfully. I am taking it out again tomorrow, and also plan on renting a .308 M1A

I have every intent to purchase another pistol, and probably soon. I am picking up a membership at my local range which, beyond free lane use, allows for free rental of all their firearms (you just have to buy their ammo for rentals). I remember that I didn't like Glocks, but can't remember why. I remember liking the Beretta 92FS, but I can't remember why. I've never shot a 1911, but I know people who swear by them. So with my ability to rent anything they have, I can pick which one I like shooting the best. Though, I think I'll eventually end up with a Beretta 92FS or M9 at some point regardless. I just love em! lol.

This post has been edited by am3pkcet on Apr 7 2011, 08:33 PM

you and your Beretta. I actually had a pretty bad experience with a Beretta 96.
I love the way it felt in my hands, and i loved the sights.

however, amidst all the other range slut guns for rent, that was the only one which double fed. That and the recoil felt strange on it, it wanted to go sideways. Perhaps it was just a bad gun? either way, i was slightly disappointed.

Oh and we have a joke about how it ejects spent casings. It'll do a precision headshot at range in opposite directions, SIMULTANEOUSLY.

Rifle itself has an MSRP is about $1,019, or whatever, give or take a couple dollars...Two boxes of Barrett brand 6.8 SPC, 30 rounds a box, $40 each, and the guy knocked off a couple dollars for the ammo...Kentucky 6% sales tax...Personally, it broke in my credit card with a little over ~$1,200...

BUT IT'S WORTH IT