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Posted by: Perry Aug 30 2016, 01:20 PM
On the way to work today, I got into a car accident and I was the victim of a hit and run. The front bumper is damaged pretty bad. Let me recall the incident...


I was driving on a 3-lane road, coming to an intersection. The light was red, I eased off on the gas. I was travelling at 35mph. I was in the right lane. This lane lets you go straight and turn right. There are no cars in my lane all the way to the intersection, so I didn't brake at this point. I was cruising with just the car's momentum.

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The light turns green. The cars in front of the 18-wheeler started moving. The 18-wheeler also starts moving forward, but at a very slow rate. I thought to myself, must be hauling something very heavy and didn't think much of it. By the time my car got to where the cab of the 18-wheeler, something terrible happened, I saw something appears quickly in front of my path. It was the hood of a pickup truck. FUCK! I had no time to sound the horn. Within a split of a second, I slammed on the brake and veered right. However, because there is a curb and because there are trees and lightpoles on the sidewalk, I had nowhere to go.

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I collided into his/her right rear bumper. The car bounced to the right and I found myself landed halfway over the curb. From the point where I see the hood 'til I hit his back, it was barely 1 second and there was less than 40 feet of distance between him and I.

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I was in so much shock. I saw him making a right turn into a small street. And that was the last I saw of him. He fled the scene. It was a hit and run. He did not stop and kept on going. I bumped my head to the side of the interior of my car a little. I believe I braked most of the speed by the time I hit him. Probably still about 15 mph at the moment of impact.

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I feel like Iketani from Initial D... This car is like a family member to me. It's very hard to see it being damaged like this... crying2.gif

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Posted by: JKaiba Aug 30 2016, 01:32 PM
Glad you talked to me earlier and hope you feel better with time. Unfortunately there are garbage people no matter where you go. Cars are material. They get bumped and bruised and don't heal unless we give them attention. You hit soft enough that your airbags didn't pop and you don't seem to need medical help and looks like hopefully just body stuff.

Someone driving that erratically- I wonder if it would have been dangerous to try and follow them. Dash cam time.

Also while I know we'd like to avoid conflict, I know deep down, that if my wife weren't in the car, I'd probably be so hot headed I'd give chase, damage to myself or the car be damned. I know that could be a ticket to an early grave but some instincts, habits, sentiments die very hard for me. I don't mean to glorify it, but I feel I need to acknowledge it.

Posted by: Tessou Aug 30 2016, 01:33 PM
I know this is a given, but I hope you contacted police to get a report written up, followed by your insurance company. Cosmetic damage can be fixed rather quickly.

And of course, you're still alive and in good health. wub.gif

Posted by: kyonpalm Aug 30 2016, 03:19 PM
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YEE-HAW.

Sorry to hear, but glad you're okay. Hope it all works out for you and the driver gets caught. Keep us updated.

Posted by: Lebon14 Aug 30 2016, 03:56 PM
FUCK.
Glad you are OK, Pear.
That f**ker, I hope he is caught.

Posted by: APX Aug 30 2016, 04:42 PM
Poor Corolla. sad.gif

Posted by: Sensation! Aug 30 2016, 04:45 PM
QUOTE (kyonpalm @ 1 hour, 25 minutes ago)
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YEE-HAW.

Sorry to hear, but glad you're okay. Hope it all works out for you and the driver gets caught. Keep us updated.

This.

Pickup driving dumbasses are the bane of the road. If I had a dash cam, I would have statistical evidence that these guys in LA drive more aggressive and faster than any Japanese sport coupe, BMW, or exotic supercar.

Glad you're okay perry. Hopefully, your insurance will take care of everything prim and proper and get everything back on track.

Posted by: Master0fMadness Aug 30 2016, 05:48 PM
Good God does that suck. I'm sorry to hear about this man, but it least it doesn't look like any permanent damage has been done.

Hope to see your baby patched up and back on the road soon.

-Master

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Posted by: 207 Aug 30 2016, 06:53 PM
hit and runs piss me off, im glad you were safe and i hope you find the person responsible. i had a hit and run on my parked car in a limited space parking area 1-2 years ago. driver mirror, and both left front hood and driver panel took damage. couldnt park in usual spot for entry single being blocked to garage........ left car for too long/forgot for a few hours and found the nice little parting gift/damage on my car. i seriously hate hit and runs, its so hard find the person if there are no witnesses/notes.

Posted by: Nomake Wan Aug 30 2016, 06:57 PM
QUOTE (JKaiba @ 5 hours, 19 minutes ago)
Dash cam time.

This. Perry, please, do the smart thing and make this the last time you let a hit-and-run (or anything else) fuck you over. Buy a dash cam. You can get an el cheapo for less than $100, or you can go for https://www.amazon.com/Street-Guardian-SG9665GC-Supercapacitor-DashCam/dp/B00U0OJMYG. In this day and age you really need one. If nothing else, you can start up a YouTube channel showing off all the stupid shit people do on a daily basis.

QUOTE (Tessou @ 5 hours, 19 minutes ago)
Cosmetic damage can be fixed rather quickly.

QUOTE (Master0fMadness @ 1 hour, 3 minutes ago)
but it least it doesn't look like any permanent damage has been done.

Assuming here that the frame hasn't been bent. Looks like it was a pretty darn good hit. The insurance company will have to figure that one out, I think. Photos won't tell you something like that, except that the possibility exists that there's frame damage considering where and how it was hit.

Also, shouldn't this be in Automotive? ermm2.gif

Get back on your feet soon, Pearbear.

Posted by: Tessou Aug 30 2016, 07:07 PM
QUOTE (Sensation! @ 2 hours, 21 minutes ago)
This.

Pickup driving dumbasses are the bane of the road. If I had a dash cam, I would have statistical evidence that these guys in LA drive more aggressive and faster than any Japanese sport coupe, BMW, or exotic supercar.

Glad you're okay perry. Hopefully, your insurance will take care of everything prim and proper and get everything back on track.

My daily is a pickup. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Nomake Wan Aug 30 2016, 07:08 PM
QUOTE (Tessou @ 57 seconds ago)
My daily is a pickup. rolleyes.gif

And I'll be driving a pickup down the state because I need a vehicle that can tow another vehicle. That makes you the exception to the rule out here, not proof that what he's saying isn't the case. Having lived out here since '07, he's really not wrong.

Posted by: Spaz Aug 30 2016, 07:58 PM
Ugh, that sucks man. Glad you're okay. I got to see plenty of cars balled up at Road Atlanta this past weekend, and everyone walked away unhurt. Crashes are scary but cars are super safe these days.

Hopefully they can fix it, but if it is totaled, there are always more cars out there.

Posted by: Tessou Aug 30 2016, 08:43 PM
QUOTE (Nomake Wan @ 1 hour, 35 minutes ago)
And I'll be driving a pickup down the state because I need a vehicle that can tow another vehicle. That makes you the exception to the rule out here, not proof that what he's saying isn't the case. Having lived out here since '07, he's really not wrong.

I know. There's the crazy fuckers that buy a Raptor and never pull or load anything with it (4x4 but never gets muddy), and then there are the guys that buy a "normal" pickup to actually haul and carry shit (mine's covered in mud). From Perry's description of the culprit, I'd believe it was the former and not the latter.

Posted by: Sensation! Aug 30 2016, 09:23 PM
QUOTE (Tessou @ 39 minutes, 28 seconds ago)
I know. There's the crazy fuckers that buy a Raptor and never pull or load anything with it (4x4 but never gets muddy), and then there are the guys that buy a "normal" pickup to actually haul and carry shit (mine's covered in mud). From Perry's description of the culprit, I'd believe it was the former and not the latter.

In urban California, its almost always the former rather than the latter. If you don't own a lifted Dodge Ram with its diff still hanging 8 inches off the ground, you're doing it wrong. I know someone who bought one just so he can cut off smaller cars since, quote him "them small cars better git outta my way". The guys who use reasonable pickups all day here are landscapers, and they don't drive like their pickup like its a Ferrari.

Posted by: Yosako Aug 31 2016, 03:09 AM
QUOTE (Nomake Wan @ 8 hours, 11 minutes ago)
This. Perry, please, do the smart thing and make this the last time you let a hit-and-run (or anything else) fuck you over. Buy a dash cam. You can get an el cheapo for less than $100, or you can go for https://www.amazon.com/Street-Guardian-SG9665GC-Supercapacitor-DashCam/dp/B00U0OJMYG. In this day and age you really need one. If nothing else, you can start up a YouTube channel showing off all the stupid shit people do on a daily basis.

Dash cams are very popular in Russia, the only thing is that they only see what there is in front of the car, while you sometimes should also watch the car's back as some drivers have an habit of not keeping the friggin' safe distances.

Posted by: Saint Aug 31 2016, 04:50 AM
Sucks for that to have happened. sad.gif

Glad you're not hurt, though.

Posted by: Meteor Aug 31 2016, 09:45 AM
Pear, I'm glad that you walked away from this with practically no injuries. I hope they find this guy, because people like that should not be on the road. I get the feeling someone else might run into this person too, and I can only hope they don't end up unluckier than you were. Sorry about your car. Hopefully your luck turns up a little in regards to that at least.

I think I'll add to the recommendations that you get a dashcam if you have the money to spare. Next time, these sorts of people won't get away.

Posted by: APX Aug 31 2016, 10:06 AM
Got a cousin who has a nice big pickup, but it's never seen a offroad. No idea why he has it, because what he does is be a trucker. (Guess that's the reason)

My dad has a 2000 something toyota pickup, uses it to carry his tools/ladders/equipment for wherever he goes to do odd jobs for family members. It's seen better days (Not sure when it happened, but the front has a nice cave in on it, uses a bungee cord to keep the hood in place but runs like a champ) It's not lifted up, it's pretty much the same level/height as it was when he got it, minus him getting those big rig rims (That's all I can think of it when I see them, or offroad rims).

But then here in California you got the old people who love older trucks and keep them like show cars.

Either way, truck drivers are a big hit or miss on WHY they got a truck. Was the area you were at a big business secction? Maybe you can find them around there, but just hope you filed that report quickly and have the baby getting repaired. We had a familiar crash and we thought it would have bent the back end of the car (He smashed perfectly on passenger side tail light area but got lucky, just cosmetic damage)

Hope to hear a good news update in the coming week!

Posted by: Nomake Wan Aug 31 2016, 12:47 PM
QUOTE (Yosako @ 9 hours, 38 minutes ago)
Dash cams are very popular in Russia, the only thing is that they only see what there is in front of the car, while you sometimes should also watch the car's back as some drivers have an habit of not keeping the friggin' safe distances.

If your ass concerns you, get a second cam for the rear window.

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Posted by: xiao Aug 31 2016, 02:01 PM
QUOTE (Perry @ Yesterday, 3:20 PM)
On the way to work today, I got into a car accident and I was the victim of a hit and run.

I'm glad you're okay Pear. I put a lil somethin' somethin' on the donations box. It ain't much but... I hope that'll help cover costs of repairing your hachi'rolla my sexy nugga. I love ya bro, thank God you're safe! Go glomp your beautiful waifu & kidz ~ (winning) <3

Posted by: RalliKai Aug 31 2016, 03:49 PM
Ouch. pinch2.gif Glad to hear you're okay though Perry. Sorry about your Rolla.

I see plenty of asphalt queens in their new F-150s and Silverado's and Dodge Rams hear in Southwest PA who do no actual "work" with them and basically keep them immaculate but don't shy from driving like twats still.

Posted by: Master0fMadness Aug 31 2016, 05:22 PM
QUOTE (Tessou @ Yesterday, 8:43 PM)
I know. There's the crazy fuckers that buy a Raptor and never pull or load anything with it (4x4 but never gets muddy), and then there are the guys that buy a "normal" pickup to actually haul and carry shit (mine's covered in mud). From Perry's description of the culprit, I'd believe it was the former and not the latter.

Lol raptor, the official truck of the Wilkow Majority.

Man, screw the Raptor. It may not be built to be a posermobile but that's the role its taken on by the majority of its owners.

I'd rather have a Lightning.

With a side of crappy tuna.

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Posted by: Tessou Aug 31 2016, 08:52 PM
Lightning is very hard to find anymore, and there are higher performance trucks you could get for the money they'd ask for one if you did find one. Just get a 350 Triton and flip everybody off as you yank trees out of the ground.

Posted by: xiao Aug 31 2016, 09:12 PM
I wanna know when we start talking about monster-truck-suspensions ~ awesome.gif update Chrome & see how cool those little sparkles look! wub.gif

Posted by: THE_HONDA_CG2 Sep 10 2016, 09:42 AM
That is so awful to hear Perry! I have to drive one lane highways to work and I'm always scared of some thing like this happening.

Its good to hear that you're ok! I hope that everything pans out in your favor. Please keep us updated. Shouldn't this be in Community?

Posted by: Perry Oct 9 2016, 02:02 PM
Some updates on my situation...

I only have liability insurance, so no deductibles, everything is out of pocket. I went around the area and got three quotes. The lowest one is $2500. 2005 Corolla with similar mileage goes for only $3500. It's a pretty tough decision. At the end, I still decided to repair the Corolla. But after it's all repaired and fixed up, I'll pass the car to my mom.

That means I have to get a new car myself. Spent a month on craigslist to find the perfect deal. Finally last week I find a 2008 Prius that goes for $6800. It's a great car but it's got a lot of mileage on it (160K) so I bargained a bit and got it down to $6300. I was a happy camper. Been driving it for a week now and I average 61+ MPG. I couldn't be happier with that. I did the math and the car will pay for itself in five years with the money I save in fuel.

Here are some photos of my new car:

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Posted by: Sensation! Oct 9 2016, 02:24 PM
It's a great purchase pear!
People who don't own these cars will make a big deal about the battery service when it's a non-issue. Ours is going over 150k and it's the chassis that needs work rather than the drive train.

Posted by: Perry Oct 9 2016, 02:50 PM
QUOTE (Sensation! @ 26 minutes, 10 seconds ago)
It's a great purchase pear!
People who don't own these cars will make a big deal about the battery service when it's a non-issue. Ours is going over 150k and it's the chassis that needs work rather than the drive train.

Oh yeah! I know what all the naysayers are saying. I did all the homework before going into this. I specifically asked the owner to not drive the car before I inspect it. I checked the car inside out with the tutorials from http://priusdiy.com/tutorials/ Checked CarFax and test drive it twice. Love it so far.

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Posted by: Nomake Wan Oct 9 2016, 02:57 PM
QUOTE (Sensation! @ 33 minutes, 22 seconds ago)
People who don't own these cars will make a big deal about the battery service when it's a non-issue.

Because it's a ~$1500 service that ends up being necessary around 150k~200k miles.

So if Perry's calculating out to five years, and assumes that 40k miles will be put on the clock in that time, then he does actually have to factor in the very real possibility that the hybrid battery will need to be replaced in that interval.

Perry's a smart dude though, so I assume he already factored that in and still got a smokin' deal. I know it sounds awesome to me, I'd love a Prius for less than 10k. Pretty damn hard to beat as basic transportation. cool.gif

Posted by: Sensation! Oct 9 2016, 03:07 PM
QUOTE (Nomake Wan @ 9 minutes, 43 seconds ago)
Because it's a ~$1500 service that ends up being necessary around 150k~200k miles.


No it's not. As worn as our battery is, it holds a charge just fine for the system to work.
It might not be a 50MPG car anymore, but it still does 44. The entire combustion engine side of the prius is godly efficient. Unless the battery is completely dead and wont hold a charge, the car will get over 40 mpg.

Its so blown out of proportion that its silly and people who blow it as a crippling issue for the car don't own a Prius and don't know what they're talking about. The drivetrain on the cars is fine, its why taxi drivers gobble them up, they'll still do twice the MPG as a crown vic, even with a worn battery.

EDIT for TLDR; the car still works and is still more efficient than most cars on the road, even with a worn battery. You don't HAVE to replace it, but it certainly helps.

Posted by: Perry Oct 9 2016, 03:19 PM
These things are pretty reliable. Knowing the when and the what the owner took the car in for service also helps secure that confidence. smile.gif Prius has been around for over a decade, there are a ton of DIY that people came up to enhance the driving experience. Batteries replacement will only cost a a few hundred as oppose to $1500 from the dealer if you http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/ptd/5815717148.html.

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Posted by: Nomake Wan Oct 9 2016, 03:46 PM
QUOTE (Sensation! @ 39 minutes, 15 seconds ago)
No it's not. As worn as our battery is, it holds a charge just fine for the system to work.
It might not be a 50MPG car anymore, but it still does 44. The entire combustion engine side of the prius is godly efficient. Unless the battery is completely dead and wont hold a charge, the car will get over 40 mpg.

Its so blown out of proportion that its silly and people who blow it as a crippling issue for the car don't own a Prius and don't know what they're talking about.

It's not that it's a crippling issue, it's that it will become an issue between it being new and being old. Welcome to the wonderful world of batteries. As I've already said, this was a great deal on a Prius even considering its age. If I had the dosh, I'd have bought it too. But I also would've had, in the back of my mind, a mental note to keep an eye on the range per trip and make sure I keep up on maintenance.

As for the $100 battery replacement, I'd totally do it if it's a reputable place. Even the back of a car in an alley can be reputable if it's got enough positive reviews, so it's less that it's some dude on craigslist and more that I don't know anything about them to say if it's worth it or not to replace a critical run component of the vehicle that makes me ponder it.

That the batteries last a long time isn't an excuse to ignore them. Perry's car has 60k miles more than any car my family has ever owned, and it's a hybrid. If he's not at least put into the calculation the contingency of a battery swap in the next five years (13 years on one battery!), he's not doing it right.

Posted by: Perry Oct 9 2016, 04:07 PM
13 years on the Prius Gen II batteries is not uncommon at all... I expect to get 5 years out this car and sell it for $2000 then. My cost for owning the car will be $4300. I save $900 in fuel compare to when I drive the Corolla assuming $2.75/gallon. If gas price goes up, then I can make up the difference even sooner. I don't expect the batteries will go out anytime soon. This was owned by one person since 2008. Batteries are the original ones. It holds the charge very well. I can "glide" or drive on batteries only for at least 10 mins (4 to 5 miles) on a full change. If you keep up with the maintenance, the batteries can easily last 250k+ miles.

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Posted by: Ivanik Oct 9 2016, 04:18 PM
Maybe you shouldn't overtake a big vehicle through it's right side.

Posted by: Sensation! Oct 9 2016, 04:28 PM
QUOTE (Nomake Wan @ 41 minutes, 42 seconds ago)
It's not that it's a crippling issue, it's that it will become an issue between it being new and being old. Welcome to the wonderful world of batteries. As I've already said, this was a great deal on a Prius even considering its age. If I had the dosh, I'd have bought it too. But I also would've had, in the back of my mind, a mental note to keep an eye on the range per trip and make sure I keep up on maintenance.

As for the $100 battery replacement, I'd totally do it if it's a reputable place. Even the back of a car in an alley can be reputable if it's got enough positive reviews, so it's less that it's some dude on craigslist and more that I don't know anything about them to say if it's worth it or not to replace a critical run component of the vehicle that makes me ponder it.

That the batteries last a long time isn't an excuse to ignore them. Perry's car has 60k miles more than any car my family has ever owned, and it's a hybrid. If he's not at least put into the calculation the contingency of a battery swap in the next five years (13 years on one battery!), he's not doing it right.

I can agree with this.
I'd also say that overall maintenance of the drivetrain itself is what'll keep these cars alive and on the road. Yes, I agree that a 10 year battery can only go south, especially in California, that said, the data that's out there for the battery life on 2nd and 3rd gen prius' seems spotty at best, it's likely even Toyota isn't entirely sure. There's a 2nd Prius thats gone 600K + miles on all original parts with maintenance somewhere in some cold country in Europe that Toyota has used as an ad, there's also cars with batteries that completely fail within 120k miles due to a likely fluke workmanship problem. Most prius' will die either from an accident or other mechanical failure before the end of the batteries effective life (it's why there's somewhat of a surplus and that reconditioning services are booming) which makes gathering conclusive data difficult.

The consensus seems to be that the battery will be effective much longer after the warranty period has expired on 2nd and 3rd gen models, apparently past 300,000 miles would be an estimate for their life, at the point, you also have chassis, engine, and transmission to worry about.


My point is, by the time the battery needs to be changed out, there's other portions of the car that also need to be changed out. As a result, many keen prius owners will make the HV battery life to be an issue that'll just be the life of the car.

Which makes me curious how many Prius owners are told by shops to change the HV battery when they don't really need to, remember; there's an industry in reconditioning batteries and selling reconditioned batteries.
A lot of people don't know that the Prius actually has a regular 12v car battery as well. If that gets drained, the car won't start. I wonder how many of these people are told (or feel) that that's indicative of a HV battery problem and proceed to swap it out, while being none the wiser.

Posted by: Nomake Wan Oct 9 2016, 04:36 PM
Just don't take it to Toyota of Orange for service, because they'll definitely tell you the HV battery needs replacing. mad.gif

Posted by: Perry Oct 9 2016, 04:38 PM
QUOTE (Ivanik @ 20 minutes, 5 seconds ago)
Maybe you shouldn't overtake a big vehicle through it's right side.

If that driver did stay I'd like to find out who's at fault as well. If he had stayed in front of the semi-truck then there'll be no collision. He didn't have the right of way when he cut across six lanes of traffic. I was driving straight in my own lane. He's the one that's responsible for making sure the lane he merges into is clear and safe.

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Posted by: Sensation! Oct 9 2016, 05:04 PM
QUOTE (Ivanik @ 46 minutes, 24 seconds ago)
Maybe you shouldn't overtake a big vehicle through it's right side.

Maybe comrade, shouldn't be of making unprotected left turn into on-coming big kamaz tracktor thinking there is of nothing to its right. Сука Блять.

Posted by: Tessou Oct 9 2016, 06:49 PM
QUOTE (Ivanik @ 2 hours, 31 minutes ago)
Maybe you shouldn't overtake a big vehicle through it's right side.

So sorry if the guy was below the speed limit in the left lane. Perhaps they were planning to turn left up the road, and were decelerating in preparation. Do you know all the facts? No? Great job.

Posted by: xiao Oct 9 2016, 06:58 PM
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Beautiful photo & great deal on a Prius for under 10k like N1 mentioned Pear! (^u^)/

(the back looks spacious enough for 2 BedoPear suits shifty2.gif)

Posted by: Tessou Oct 9 2016, 07:18 PM
Re-reading the incident report, the truck was slow to start because they were accelerating from a full stop at the intersection, and the idiot apparently jumped the light to turn left in front of the truck. Perry did absolutely nothing wrong, tupitska Ivanik.

Posted by: Ivanik Oct 10 2016, 07:35 AM
So many critics for a simple comment. What happens here? It is always like that. Anyway, I just said it proposing that it would be a safer practice, not for nothing it is a traffic law in my country to always overtake trough the left. Don't take it as a critic, it is an advise, I consider myself a safe driver that SO FAR, was able to avoid hitting vehicles that made wrong maneuvers, like that truck.

Posted by: Perry Oct 10 2016, 09:03 AM
QUOTE (Ivanik @ 1 hour, 27 minutes ago)
So many critics for a simple comment. What happens here? It is always like that. Anyway, I just said it proposing that it would be a safer practice, not for nothing it is a traffic law in my country to always overtake trough the left. Don't take it as a critic, it is an advise, I consider myself a safe driver that SO FAR, was able to avoid hitting vehicles that made wrong maneuvers, like that truck.

What would you have done in that situation though? Would you slow down to match the semi-truck's speed (5-10mph) in front of a green light? The hit-n-run driver took advantage of the slow start of the semi-truck to cut across the street. I can't think of an excuse for defending him.

We also have the unwritten rule of not overtaking large semi-trailer on the right here, but that usually applies to highway/freeway where there are more lanes to choose from. In a local 3-lane road, when a slow moving semi-truck takes the center lane, that essentially render two thirds of the road congested if you can't overtake to the right of it.

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Posted by: Ivanik Oct 10 2016, 09:53 AM
Anyway, it is just an advise since if you use the left side, you are apart from the vehicle you are overtaking, so your field of view is wider. I'm not defending the other driver, Which part of advise is not understood?, and that traffic rule is not unwritten, it is clearly written (in my country, as I said).

Posted by: Perry Oct 10 2016, 10:26 AM
QUOTE (Ivanik @ 27 minutes, 17 seconds ago)
Anyway, it is just an advise since if you use the left side, you are apart from the vehicle you are overtaking, so your field of view is wider. I'm not defending the other driver, Which part of advise is not understood?, and that traffic rule is not unwritten, it is clearly written (in my country, as I said).

Unfortunately, your advice is not construtive to the discussion at hand.
You can see my location in my profile as California, USA. Passing on the right is permitted per http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=veh&group=21001-22000&file=21750-21760 in my situation.

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21754.  The driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass to the right
of another vehicle only under the following conditions:
  a) When the vehicle overtaken is making or about to make a left
turn.
  b) Upon a highway within a business or residence district with
unobstructed pavement of sufficient width for two or more lines of
moving vehicles in the direction of travel.
  c) Upon any highway outside of a business or residence district
with unobstructed pavement of sufficient width and clearly marked for
two or more lines of moving traffic in the direction of travel
.
  d) Upon a one-way street.
  e) Upon a highway divided into two roadways where traffic is
restricted to one direction upon each of such roadways.
  The provisions of this section shall not relieve the driver of a
slow moving vehicle from the duty to drive as closely as practicable
to the right hand edge of the roadway.

Posted by: APX Oct 10 2016, 10:33 AM
Perry can totally be a UBER/whatever driver now. smile.gif

specially for hot drunk asian college girls over there. NUDGE NUDGE.

Posted by: Spaz Oct 11 2016, 07:41 PM
QUOTE (APX @ Yesterday, 1:33 PM)
Perry can totally be a UBER/whatever driver now. smile.gif

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Posted by: kyonpalm Oct 11 2016, 08:31 PM
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Posted by: xiao Oct 12 2016, 01:58 AM
~ Are joo a Birgin?? chris.gif

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Posted by: APX Oct 12 2016, 07:40 AM
Surprised no one posted clips of that one terrible (Well they are all) jimmy fallon movie with queen latefah and them using a fast n furious taxi cab to capture a BMW. biggrin.gif

Posted by: THE_HONDA_CG2 Oct 14 2016, 01:46 PM
Aw congrats on the new car Perry! I love the color and it doesn't look too bad for its age. I hope it takes very good care of you.

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I glad that you're okay Perry. Hope you feel better with time
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Posted by: Nomake Wan Mar 17 2017, 05:15 PM
QUOTE (kara @ Today, 6:37 AM)
I glad that you're okay Perry. Hope you feel better with time

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Posted by: Tessou Mar 20 2017, 08:57 PM
We're killing it. Standby for incoming banishment nuke.

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