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|Posted by: Kev Aug 22 2006, 02:21 PM|
| Hey everyone! This thread is meant to ask whether or not the time you have is a good time or not. No flaming will be tolerated for bad times. When replying, be sure to give some advice to the person asking. Elaborate on how the person can get a better time rather than supplying a simple yes or no answer. The thread would be dry if it was full of "Hey is 3'07 a good time?" "No."
It'd also be a good idea to quote the person you're replying to as to reduce confusion.
If you want to talk about your time attacks, and how you're trying to break a new record, you can talk about it http://idforums.net/index.php?showtopic=24354
Anyone who breaks the rules, and spams will be warned.
Edit: Sentence bolded for incredible emphasis. - Coastal
|Posted by: icedagger Aug 22 2006, 07:29 PM|
| Ok I think I'll start.
How's a 2'48 on Tsu OB Dry for an RX-8? I keep messing up the rollers. Best I can do is a 140. (I messed up the rollers on the 2'48 run though, only got like 133 or so.)
|Posted by: riP Aug 22 2006, 07:32 PM|
|thats wut i run with my rx8... so 4 me its pretty good|
|Posted by: Excel Aug 22 2006, 07:35 PM|
| umm... heres a good way to answer that without having a whole topic of noobs going 'omg is 2'50 on happo good? its the first time i ever played it lawlz'
Look up the internet rankings. Look up the car you are using, and the course and the condition. Are you 3 seconds from it? Thats good. Are you 5 seconds from it? Thats OK. Are you 10+? Thats terrible. Topic solved.
The whole idea of people asking if their time is good just sounds postless to me. You wanna know how to get better? Theres already a topic for that("Help me with this Course, newbs click").
The other time attack topic was good. I don't wanna hear about how n00b A beat n00b B and got to battle level 2, or how n00b C lost to Takumi on Akina, which is a good 90% of the posts in the post your days section. On the other hand, if someone beat my time attack, I do want to know about that. I don't wanna have to sift through 9 posts of crap to find 1 thing that interests me.
EDIT: Didn't realize that you made a new post your days topic. If its moderated by the guidelines set by the initial post, it should be allright. Although I still think this topic is kinda pointless.
|Posted by: hellspare Aug 22 2006, 08:52 PM|
|That's true, but some courses are obviously harder to perfect than other courses. For ex, running a 39 on Tsuchi constantly is MUCH harder than running a 48 constantly on Usui.|
|Posted by: darkpaladinzz Aug 22 2006, 09:02 PM|
| its true that 2 seconds away from WR on myogi is different from tsuchi..
but as excel mentioned... if you look at the WR and MR, you will realize the difference and where you stand..
everyone has different opinions... for example, running 3'00 akina ddh might be considered godly by a new person in the game, but CKF might consider it crap..
in the end...the only person who can really judge the time is yourself..
since we dont know how you ran your time..comparing your time vs the record time.. you will realize where you could go even faster and how you would improve even more
|Posted by: hellspare Aug 22 2006, 09:09 PM|
| Exactly I mean. Intermediate to good players can't push say.. a Mr2 on Shomaru as far as a Pro player. They may be able to get 3:01 but a "good" player can't even get close, though they may be able to run a 3:01 easy with Rx8. Sometimes personal skill just overtakes the car's abilities. Kind of like the first person who had the idea of 10 starring an 85.
Anyways enough with that, how do I get under a 3:04 with e4 on Akina? I've been practicing really hard the last 3 days and I still can't figure out how. That's with no techs on any hairpins btw, except 5i4o. I still sometimes drop below 120 on the consecutives, just can't get them right all the time. Any tips?
|Posted by: Excel Aug 22 2006, 09:31 PM|
| no feinting either?
If you aren't feinting, then start feinting. You are pretty much at the limit for just straight up line driving.
If you are feinting... I need to know your check point times for further advice. Its good to hear that you aren't whoring TST at this point atleast(as I see way too many people trying to do nowadays =_=)
|Posted by: hellspare Aug 22 2006, 09:44 PM|
|Yeah I'm feinting, i'll record my section times next time I go. Believe me, I tried to tst on some easier hairpins, but it didn't work nearly as well as I thought it would. Tst comes after mastering eraser on a course right? Only courses I can comfortably tst is Usui rofl.|
|Posted by: DALAZ_68 Aug 22 2006, 10:16 PM|
| i would say post a link of each WR list top 50 so they can see that
but its still gonna happen
|Posted by: ChaosSoldier Aug 22 2006, 10:22 PM|
| @ any iro specialist...
can anyone help me lower my iro dh and iro reverse times...and maybe tell me if theyre any good or not...
for iro downhill i run a 2'57'6xx and im hoping to run a high-mid 56...
for iro reverse, i run a 3'05'4xx and im hoping for low 3'04...
i know it may seem good to some, but for me, i just dont feel satisfied by those times...so if anyone can help me out with anything, it'd be appreciated...
oh for iro dh, help in sections 1 and 3 would be nice, and for reverse, i need help on sections 1, 2 and 3...
|Posted by: Sil80Drifter Aug 24 2006, 12:27 AM|
|can someone give me all the record times for all the courses, and tell which car it is with? I lost the website lol|
|Posted by: FD3SRX-7 Aug 24 2006, 06:10 AM|
| For me my goal is to run a 3"10"XX with my mazda RX-7 on Irohazaka. Anyone got some hints on how to clear the 3rd section, that's my worst part. If I could only clear the jumps perfectly then I think I would be able to run a 3"10. My current time is a 3"11.
However, to add, is 3"11 a good time for an RX-7 on Irohazaka downhill?
|Posted by: rx8driver Aug 24 2006, 07:13 AM|
| can someone teach me how to lower my time on shomaru dry, both direction?
i currently getting 3'10" both direction with a 700k RX8, is this a good time?
|Posted by: icedagger Aug 24 2006, 07:27 AM|
| Well, I just ran a 3'08 earlier on IB with minimal techs. Last sunday I ran a 3'08 on OB, minimal techs too. (minimal meaning, only 1-2 erasers)
I was FTed though. But I don't think the acceleration difference matters much between FT and 700k.
Basically all I do is ungas for an instant when I'm taking a turn (except for several turns, including the M section). I've also noticed that I tend to slide and understeer a lot on parts of the road with asphalt, so be a bit weary of parts of the road that have asphalt on them.
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Aug 24 2006, 07:29 AM|
| @Sil80Drifter: http://www.pzoteam.org/IRSys/ID3Result.php ; Times for all cars on all courses are right here.
@FD3S RX-7: Sadly, 3'11 isn't a very good time. It's over 10 seconds from the MR but there is a way to improve so that you get much closer. Brake early and shift down for each turn (taking the turns in 3rd gear). For the jumps take those in 3rd and try not to keep the line too tight since the car flies there. And as long as you take the last section clean with minimal walls, you should be fine.
The key to Iro is taking each hairpin tight and fast. But for the moment worry about taking each hairpin tight. Again, brake before each turn and downshift at the same time. This should easily get you below 3'10.
@rx8driver: Also, 3'10" isn't very good even for 700k, to tell you the truth. The main thing with Shomaru is you want to get as close to the apex of every turn without clipping it. Throughout turns you want to hug the inside walls but not so much that you grind on them or tap. For the most part you should be driving in the middle of the road, but don't forget the principle of out-in-out line.
Basically stay off the walls. Going slower than you should is better than tapping random walls. After you get that down... I can help you further.
|Posted by: FD3SRX-7 Aug 24 2006, 03:16 PM|
|Posted by: riP Aug 24 2006, 04:16 PM|
i cant understand that... grrrr
|Posted by: Excel Aug 24 2006, 04:36 PM|
| This works as well, although I like the one Coastal posted better.
|Posted by: Sil80Drifter Aug 24 2006, 08:58 PM|
| LOL i know its probably terrible but..
Is 2'49 with the FD Spirit R really bad?
|Posted by: hellspare Aug 24 2006, 09:41 PM|
|For what course? If it's Tsuchi then with a little practice you can push to 45 pretty easily.|
|Posted by: Sil80Drifter Aug 24 2006, 09:56 PM|
| ROFL i forgot to say what course..=P
|Posted by: hellspare Aug 24 2006, 10:59 PM|
| Oh for Akagi that IS pretty bad..
Uhh what parts are you having problems on? With a 2:49 you're probably hitting every wall, or going too slow. Watch some videos on youtube.
|Posted by: matt Aug 24 2006, 11:03 PM|
|just keep playing it over and over again till u start getting used to not hitting the walls ,or qutever ur doing, u'll get their|
|Posted by: Sil80Drifter Aug 24 2006, 11:10 PM|
| lol i bump the wall at the end of the turn because i oversteer sometimes, then i try to counter steer in the middle of a hair pin
but its alowly getting fixed so its all good.. in no time ill be able to get a 2'44 haha
|Posted by: matt Aug 24 2006, 11:12 PM|
|ic u'll get their soon just keep trying|
|Posted by: Sil80Drifter Aug 24 2006, 11:16 PM|
| Its so fun though, like you can take the turns at such high speeds its awesome
Hey what is a decent time or average time for Akagi DH?
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Aug 24 2006, 11:59 PM|
|For Akagi DH I'd say 2'24"-'25 is average for top tier cars... like the FD, FC, GC8V, Evo3, 205, etc.|
|Posted by: Sil80Drifter Aug 25 2006, 12:27 AM|
|LMAO wow.. thats why my time keeps getting better by like 5 seconds every time i play maybe|
|Posted by: icedagger Aug 25 2006, 08:58 AM|
|Yeah, I started out like that too... I was running 2'50 on Akagi DH... Then I learned how to brake and it suddenly dropped to the 2'30s.|
|Posted by: Sil80Drifter Aug 25 2006, 01:24 PM|
|Lol i just came back from the arcade and im down to 2'47 now lmao this is awesome|
|Posted by: DrifterD Aug 25 2006, 08:26 PM|
| FT Cappuccino
Akina DHD- 3'02'9
Shomaru OBD- 3'03'8
Iro DHD- 3'05'020
How are my times??? I was surprised that i got those times.
|Posted by: Tomo Aug 25 2006, 08:34 PM|
|the shomaru time is the main one I would say that you really need to work on... about 9 seconds from MR/WR definitely means you can easily shave off a few seconds. The iro one can be a lot lower too, depending on how you are taking on the course. Keep at it, you can easy 59 sho and 3'02 iro since you are FT|
|Posted by: DrifterD Aug 25 2006, 08:46 PM|
|holy crap are u serious? its gonna be hard for me to get 3'02 on iro and 59 on shomaru. main thing i want to work on is akina which is going to be hard for me. thanks though. i have new goals to set now|
|Posted by: Tomo Aug 25 2006, 08:47 PM|
|out of all your times i think the akina one might be the best one you have, that isn't that bad at all actually. The shomaru one will come to you, it's just a matter of really perfecting your lines, you can get it for sure.|
|Posted by: DrifterD Aug 25 2006, 08:55 PM|
|yeah. thanks a lot for the tip. im gonna play shomaru more now|
|Posted by: Arcy Aug 26 2006, 07:36 AM|
|man I can't lower my akina dh time in my integra. 3'08 omg so slow. hahahaha I'm beating bunta on akina by strictly blockin him to death.... errr. Same with akagi, can't lower it to less than a 2'27.|
|Posted by: Tomo Aug 26 2006, 03:04 PM|
|only 3'08 with dc2? i would recommend using no tech except 5i4o if you are struggling that bad... that alone with a good line will land you a 3'04/3'05. Akagi, same thing pretty much, just don't overdo it and you'll easy 25 that.|
|Posted by: hellspare Aug 26 2006, 04:40 PM|
|Wow you beat 8th star only doing 3:08? You must be a really good blocker.|
|Posted by: Razor Aug 26 2006, 04:47 PM|
| hows a 38-40 in akagi for a 11 year old kid?
evo4 100k points
making new car so hope to improve my time
|Posted by: FD3SIzDaBest Aug 26 2006, 04:51 PM|
Age doesn't make a very big difference... There are 9 year-olds better than players in their late 20s and early 30s.
|Posted by: Excel Aug 26 2006, 04:55 PM|
|Ya... you know Bart was only 14 when he got the Akina Snow World Record. He got the North America #1 Akina DH dry time in V2 when he was 12. HKS, Jikex, etc, are all like 15-16 now, 13-14 when V3 came out, and they have both always been awesome. Tons of great players from both ends of the age spectrum.|
|Posted by: hellspare Aug 27 2006, 10:35 AM|
| Well age does make a difference. Older players catch on to the techniques faster for every course. The little kids I see around here just bang every wall they see. I think it's how long you've played that matters, not your age.
38-40 is very slow, sadly. If you stay off the walls your e4 can do 30 very easily. Heck I wheel lock at the end sometimes and I still end up with a 27 on those runs.
|Posted by: Arcy Aug 27 2006, 02:53 PM|
coo thanks. I'll try that out, it'll help a lot. I maybe overusing the techs XD.
|Posted by: riP Aug 27 2006, 03:01 PM|
|atcu... u got BC 9 at akina with a 3'08???? thats some crazy blocking skills|
|Posted by: Arcy Aug 27 2006, 07:30 PM|
iono it seems as if I do better against bunta. I guess it's because there's no pressure when I time attack, and oh yah, my blocking skills are pretty good because bunta was on my ass the entire akina on 8th star and couldn't pass me. Took me only like 3 tries to beat him also. I'll make a video of 10th star bunta akina if I can beat him to show you I'm really no good at akina but I can block like hell. hahaha. XD
|Posted by: matt Aug 29 2006, 09:10 PM|
hmm yeh same here akina, but akagi I got a 2'26'405
|Posted by: hellspare Aug 29 2006, 10:33 PM|
| I think I asked before in another thread, but is a 46 on Tsuchi ob wet a good time for r32? I know it's the best car for the course and condition, but it's still quite a bit slower than my dry times, even with the 32.
Also, is a 2:52 good for e4 on Usui ccw? I haven't gotten the right hairpins down yet, and I only get like 170 exit on the last turn.
|Posted by: Cranky Aug 30 2006, 01:22 AM|
your evo is ft or not? my bro has a 2'49 atm, and the MR stands at 2'47.
|Posted by: hellspare Aug 30 2006, 03:30 PM|
|No it's not ft, it's at about 500k or so. Ft won't matter too much right? It's not like it's myogi, where top speed matters that much. I'm just a nub at usui I guess. When I started out playing I quit id for a while because I couldn't beat the girls on usui.|
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Aug 30 2006, 07:02 PM|
Age makes no real difference at all. Many things factor into how skillful a player is.
1. Access to videos
2. Atmosphere - any good players around them? Or are they the best they know?
3. How often they play
4. What cars they drive when they play
That's all I can think of right now.
There are older AND younger players where I play that unintentionally use the wall tech on every course outside Iro. And as for older players catching onto techs faster... well, my younger friend "rice." here learned long before I did.
|Posted by: icedagger Aug 30 2006, 07:06 PM|
|^ I agree. As long as you're tall enough to reach the pedals comfortably all it really takes is time and effort.|
|Posted by: Harley Aug 30 2006, 07:08 PM|
|Yeah true its not the age its the effort|
|Posted by: hellspare Aug 30 2006, 07:13 PM|
Sorry, but I don't agree.
It's like learning tennis. Yeah if you start at 6 you will be better when you are 15 compared to someone who just started at 13. But are you better at 7 than they are at 14?
I just think age determines how fast you pick up things, how fast you LEARN to be good. You know?
|Posted by: Harley Aug 30 2006, 07:15 PM|
that is kinda true actually
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Aug 30 2006, 07:59 PM|
| @hellspare: Okay... what you're saying is with age comes experience. I'll take that. Just know that there are exceptions to everything. I've got a friend who's been playing ID since Ver1. I've only been playing since Ver3 and already I'm better than him. Keep in mind my playtime is MUCH shorter than his. He started when he was what... 17? I started when I was 19. We're both 20 and I'm better than him now.
Also... I've got a time question for you guys:
How's a 2'59"906 Iro DHD Evo4 without eraser? Average? Bad?
|Posted by: Excel Aug 30 2006, 09:49 PM|
|Not too bad... Altho I think Razorsuke made a 59'6 Iro vid way back when V3 first came out with no eraser and no feint|
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Aug 30 2006, 10:05 PM|
|Ooo man. Cool. Too bad I'm gonna stop playing Iro for a while.|
|Posted by: touch86 Aug 30 2006, 10:48 PM|
|i just ran a 2'25" on happo outbound is this fast? if not can i get some tips because i just don't see much of a way to make it much faster...|
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Aug 30 2006, 10:51 PM|
|What car are you using?|
|Posted by: touch86 Aug 30 2006, 10:57 PM|
|Posted by: Lonely Boy Aug 31 2006, 01:00 PM|
|10 tries on shomaru ob dry with my si180,get 2 59 4xx,bang on the three consetuctive turns of cp4,damn!|
|Posted by: Ke6dRt Aug 31 2006, 04:08 PM|
|whoa, i had no idea i was that good on shomaru|
|Posted by: darkpaladinzz Aug 31 2006, 04:22 PM|
| yeah man..59'4 is like..top 5/6-ish? in the world...we will all bow down to you..
and above all that..its a 59'4 with wall taps
omg...pzo has nothing on you..>_>
|Posted by: Guate in evoV Aug 31 2006, 05:34 PM|
like AMG becky look at his time
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Aug 31 2006, 05:44 PM|
| @touch86: 2'25" Happo Out with a GDB? That's pretty good in my book.
Guys... I've got more TA's for you to judge.
~190k EK9: Tsuchi OBD 2'44"406 (2 tries)
~290k EK9: Happo OBD 2'21"216
|Posted by: Tomo Aug 31 2006, 05:47 PM|
|not bad, when you get a chance lemme know your cps for happo and i'll see if i can't help you out a bit =D|
|Posted by: Cranky Aug 31 2006, 05:55 PM|
|damn nice times for the ek coastal. i'm guessing no techs? and what time you're thinking when it's FT?|
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Aug 31 2006, 06:07 PM|
| Oh no no no... I definitely used techs for those runs!
At FT... I wanna hit 18. But chances are it'll be 19 at FT.
|Posted by: matt Aug 31 2006, 07:57 PM|
|hmm I got a 2'24'785 happo ob with GDB, any good? need pointers on making it faster|
|Posted by: Tomo Aug 31 2006, 08:02 PM|
|pretty decent actually... where do you find yourself struggling? can't just give blind pointers ya know lol|
|Posted by: hellspare Aug 31 2006, 08:03 PM|
| 46 ob wet r32? I asked before but nobody answered me.
Err and it'd be cool if you guys can give me pointers on where to improve as well. I run the whole course about the same, just a couple kph slower than dry.
|Posted by: Tomo Aug 31 2006, 08:16 PM|
|obw tsuchisaka? i hope not happo =_=|
|Posted by: hellspare Aug 31 2006, 08:27 PM|
|Oh yeah tsuchi, sorry. I just checked wr and mr and it's 2:41. Damn I got quite a bit to go. I gotta run my dry speeds, and even a little faster.|
|Posted by: Excel Aug 31 2006, 08:52 PM|
|The key for now is to just work on clean exits, that alone will get you to the 44 range.|
|Posted by: hellspare Aug 31 2006, 09:11 PM|
|Yeah but i'm not sure how fast I'm supposed to take each turn in wet. The fastest I've taken the first one is only 138 or so, any faster and I scrape the right wall.|
|Posted by: matt Aug 31 2006, 09:14 PM|
|its really seond cp where u go down the S turns. I'm SO slow their.|
|Posted by: touch86 Sep 1 2006, 12:08 AM|
|2'24" outbound happo dry and 2'25" downhill akagi dry both with gdb|
|Posted by: matt Sep 1 2006, 10:45 AM|
|same here 24 happo ob, though i think I can drop it to a high 23|
|Posted by: Excel Sep 1 2006, 02:19 PM|
Wow... suprised you are slower on Akagi then you are on Happo with the GDB. Maybe I just suck at using AWD cars on Happo XD But seriously, I think I have a 2'25 on Happo with the GDB and my AKagi time is a 2'23'0 XD
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Sep 1 2006, 02:54 PM|
| Happo with AWDs is fun!
How's a 2'23" both ways with an E4?
|Posted by: hellspare Sep 1 2006, 07:25 PM|
|Okay I need a little help on Akagi dhd for e4. The consecutives near the end... wtf am I supposed to do to not wheel lock? I try leaving in 5th all the way through the first one, then shift down to 4th for the second, but my car doesn't turn well on the first turn if I leave it in 5th. If I do 5i4o for the first turn I wheel lock like a little beeetch.|
|Posted by: Excel Sep 1 2006, 08:12 PM|
| 5th gear first turn is definately the best method... If you do 5 in 4 out, it makes the car slide more, making it hard to turn the opposite direction. This is why you would lock up for the 2nd turn. Either 5i5o(best method) or 4i4o but do not do 5i4o.
4i4o can still get reasonable times, I knew a guy that did a 24 on Akagi with the Evo 4 before eraser existed and he used 4i4o on that first turn.
|Posted by: matt Sep 1 2006, 10:29 PM|
AGREED!! o man nice costal! u gonna make a vid of it?
|Posted by: hellspare Sep 1 2006, 10:50 PM|
|Thing is, when I 5i5o I drop to like 135 to be able to clear the turn. I'll practice it I guess, maybe I don't have the right line.|
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Sep 2 2006, 03:37 AM|
Hah... I've had 23 both ways with the E4 for quite a while, now.
|Posted by: ChaosSoldier Sep 2 2006, 12:38 PM|
for the first turn, u should eraser+brake till about a speed of 140...then as the next turn comes up, u let off the gas, THEN eraser, then lay off the gas for about half a second then gas on exit...the eraser should keep u from hitting the wall...
|Posted by: Sil80Drifter Sep 2 2006, 03:31 PM|
|Is 2'39 on Akagi DH a good improvement from before? =)|
|Posted by: 207 Sep 2 2006, 03:40 PM|
|wats the previous time? 39 is a bit slow but easy to improve on, im tring to lower my 2.37 akagi dh too|
|Posted by: Sil80Drifter Sep 2 2006, 03:44 PM|
|An improvement from 2'50 lol|
|Posted by: icedagger Sep 2 2006, 07:28 PM|
| Hmm... how are you taking the first hairpin? What exit speeds are you getting and are you hitting the walls?
Messing up the first hairpin pretty badly (meaning, hitting the wall hard) can easily cost you 2 or more seconds. Since it comes right at the start of the course you might want to work on that first.
|Posted by: hellspare Sep 2 2006, 09:45 PM|
|The only actual hard parts of Akagi dhd is the V turn and the first turn if you don't know how to 5i4o, also the right with the yellow markings, w/e that turn is called. I can never get that turn higher than 140, it's lame. The rest of the course just takes a bit precise driving and not to bump walls.|
|Posted by: razorsuKe Sep 3 2006, 04:59 AM|
| BREAKING NEWS
This instant CKF just took NA's only record!!!
|Posted by: Cranky Sep 3 2006, 06:02 AM|
|ooooo atm times aren't out yet, hopefully bart will retake the record|
|Posted by: icedagger Sep 3 2006, 07:40 AM|
| How's a 3'06 on Akina for an FD (with no techs)?
While I'm here,
What are good times for Sho OB/IB with no techs (RX8)? Right now I'm getting 3'05.
|Posted by: matt Sep 3 2006, 09:03 AM|
|thats WACK!! Bart will get that bak!!|
|Posted by: 207 Sep 3 2006, 09:13 AM|
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Sep 3 2006, 09:13 AM|
|Wait... I completely missed this. What did CKF take?|
|Posted by: icedagger Sep 3 2006, 09:19 AM|
| I think it must be the Akina Snow DH record.
Edit: Yup, it's the snow record alright. According to ida.com.
Good luck on retaking it!
|Posted by: RX-7 Sep 3 2006, 08:56 PM|
|is this a good time: stock 180SX usui counterclock wise 2:49:xxx.|
|Posted by: Sil80Drifter Sep 4 2006, 11:33 AM|
|Ya i think so.. because my sil80 time on Sui is 1'46 or something|
|Posted by: buusap Sep 5 2006, 03:38 AM|
| i dunno if dis is good but my cappucino can go 2''31 wen i go full out
is dat good considering my cappucino only has 300k points??
and on akina wif da same cappucino i get a 3''11 dunno y i cant go faster i can usually go in corners at 125km/h
and on iroha wif my evo 3 i can get a 3''07 is dat good considerin i got stuck on da corner b4 da 4 consectutive jumps????
|Posted by: 207 Sep 5 2006, 07:05 AM|
|both are slow times, but all u hav to do is practice more (lol ure iro is beter than mine) my akina is 1 second slower as an average. i know i hav to practice more too. wat course is the 2.31?|
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Sep 5 2006, 07:00 PM|
| How's this?
424k EK9 Happo OBD - 2'20"903
I had a 20"7 run... but died in CP4. XD
And sorry, Tomo, I forgot to take down my CP times hahah
|Posted by: icedagger Sep 5 2006, 08:19 PM|
| Hey folks,
I've now been playing for about 4 months. Just wanted to know how I'm progressing. I'm running the following times with my RX-8.
Akagi DH D - 2'26'low
Akina DH D - 3'09'high
Tsu OB D - 2'46'high
Sho IB D - 3'04'high
Sho OB D - 3'05'low
Happo IB D - 2'29'high
What time would be the best among those mentioned? And how are those times for someone playing for 4 months?
|Posted by: matt Sep 5 2006, 08:27 PM|
|just do a lot of braking and get a fill for the course. u should probably be hitting a 40!|
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Sep 5 2006, 08:45 PM|
Sounds like me after only 4 months.
Doing good so far. It seems you've got an okay grasp on the game. I know you don't use techs, so when you take that into account as well, I'd say you're making good progress.
|Posted by: icedagger Sep 5 2006, 08:58 PM|
I did a few erasers on the Shomaru runs (a turn in OB CP4 and IB CP1), and a few on the Akagi. (in CP4)
I don't use techs on the Akina and Happo runs yet though. Just feint 5i5o on Akina's hairpins, and feint on Happo.
|Posted by: hellspare Sep 5 2006, 11:18 PM|
|You should easily be able to improve youe 46 on Tsuchi, it doesn't take much to run a 43, just don't tap walls.|
|Posted by: Blah! Sep 6 2006, 11:19 AM|
great job dude!! makes me wanna play happo again...i think i see an area record coming soon from you...i think u can beat a 19'8...either way good sh*t man...
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Sep 6 2006, 11:26 AM|
I want 18.
|Posted by: Arcy Sep 6 2006, 02:17 PM|
|dropped my DC2 Iro time from 3'07'571 -> 3'05'294. I even know where I made the mistakes, and I was on pace to get a high 3'04 but I messed up on CP4. I think with some more practice I can get that 3'03 or lower and finally defeat bunta for the racer level up !!! =)|
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Sep 6 2006, 05:38 PM|
| Hey what's the fastest time you can get on Akagi DHD w/o TST using...
Thanks in advance.
|Posted by: hellspare Sep 6 2006, 06:05 PM|
|I seen a 19 with the rx8 with only eraser. I'm pretty sure you can push to a 18 with only eraser also. The other two cars are a bit tough, maybe 20?|
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Sep 6 2006, 06:10 PM|
| ^ Umm... you do know I'm talking about Akagi DHD, right?
Where the hell have you seen a 19 with just eraser?!
|Posted by: hellspare Sep 6 2006, 06:56 PM|
|I saw many people getting 19s and 20s when I went to hong kong this summer. I remember a guy getting 20 with only like 2 erasers.|
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Sep 6 2006, 06:59 PM|
| Ooh... great!
That means I can hit 20 w/o TST, but also with LOTS OF PRACTICE. Just wondering, that's all.
|Posted by: Tomo Sep 6 2006, 07:03 PM|
bullsh*t. 19 rx8 1 eraser? sorry, but that is just innacurate. can't wait till corey or someone else with some sense sees that.
|Posted by: razorsuKe Sep 6 2006, 07:07 PM|
| razorsuKe signing in, that is bullshit.
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Sep 6 2006, 07:08 PM|
| I'd like to think 20 is possible with just eraser... 19 I completely wrote off.
Anyone wanna accurately answer my question??? Thanks in advance.
|Posted by: Tomo Sep 6 2006, 07:39 PM|
|to be honest, without tst in cp3 i dont know. I mean MAYBE it's possible, but it'd be damn hard.|
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Sep 6 2006, 10:12 PM|
| RX-8 Akagi DHD:
I went from 2'22"788 to 2'22"4 today. XD
And honestly... the only places giving me trouble are the first turn, and the V-turn.
I dunno how to properly do the first turn cleanly.
I'm attacking the V-turn with different approaches, and the Jikex method seems faster. Anyone know which is the fastest method?
|Posted by: Tomo Sep 6 2006, 11:30 PM|
|first turn you should just double eraser 6in5out... ignore that tst nonsense on the first corner you don't need that to get a 19 XD. for the v-turn, i kinda do it yuet@ style, down to 3rd for a split second then quick double up to 5th. For me, that is one of my more consistent turns =_=|
|Posted by: icedagger Sep 6 2006, 11:42 PM|
| what exit speeds can be gotten on the 1st turn? I've gotten 130 with no erasers (RX8), and 131 with a wall tap. Kinda hard to get over 128 consistently though.
How fast can you go with erasers?
|Posted by: razorsuKe Sep 7 2006, 12:27 AM|
| I've done 132, almost 133 first turn exit with just brake in 5th
don't even go up to 6, no eraser, just brake in 5th and exit 132.
as for the V turn down to 3, that is not yuet style anymore
|Posted by: Gunso Sep 7 2006, 01:38 AM|
| off topic...
Is 3"15 on Akina Up Dry with 86Trueno good?
[I only have about 200k pts]
|Posted by: blanc_erik Sep 7 2006, 01:51 AM|
| quick question :
what's the best time for stock-automatic-evo3 on iro downhill dry.
edit : is 3'03 good for stock-automatic-evo3 on iro downhill dry ?
|Posted by: razorsuKe Sep 7 2006, 02:01 AM|
|I think 3'00 is possible. Yes stock auto, 3'00.|
|Posted by: blanc_erik Sep 7 2006, 02:04 AM|
| one last question.
did anyone ever done that ?
|Posted by: buusap Sep 7 2006, 02:54 AM|
my 2''31 is on akagi
i noe i suk
|Posted by: Excel Sep 7 2006, 06:41 AM|
|low 20 should be possible with just eraser, MAYBE 19 if its like a god run by Yuet(he did get 20 with a 500K S14Q and other crazy stuff =_=).|
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Sep 7 2006, 11:03 AM|
|I see... alright.|
|Posted by: DALAZ_68 Sep 7 2006, 12:21 PM|
| wut do u guys think
3:26 DH snow
and 3:34 UP snow
i only did each course twice
my best on DH is a 24 but it was months ago
but im asking so far wut do u guys think, doubt it really matters...but yes its a FT R34
thanks in advance
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Sep 7 2006, 12:32 PM|
| Hm... I'd say those were quite slow, Steve.
But considering you're just learning uphill I won't be too harsh on it. Go for 3'30" on the uphill and you'll be in the "okay" range.
As for 3'24" downhill... also a bit slow, but then again snow isn't your fortÃ©, is it?
I have 23 on the downhill with that car... I know you can beat it.
|Posted by: DALAZ_68 Sep 7 2006, 12:43 PM|
my biggest handicap was that i stopped playin for so long
i knoe that if i kept on going i would most definetly have a 57 on akina with 86, simply because im already showing faster section times by over 600 in my 2nd and 3rd
as for snow i left it at 24
but damn thats slow!?! jeenkies any R34 snow vids out there
hmm can i ask u coastal how do u tackle snow?!
on uphill i do a double down shift into the turn up shift apexing it
as for downhill i brake into the turn downshift coming out
the uphill style i find it giving me a tighter line when i do that double down shift upshift apex then wen i just brake downshift ( uphill)
is there some other method
i was told that eraser is practically useless due to the slide factor in snow, and ofcourse full lock is a no no from wut iv been told, so i dunno i have no info on this course, or vid or anything to go by
any info u could provide would b cool
BTW i knoe a 23 is possible but i always mess up the lhod either not braking enough or too much braking
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Sep 7 2006, 02:30 PM|
| I'm not too fast in snow... but I'll help you.
I have 3'23"2 DH and 3'30"7 UH with the R34.
There's no real need to 2x-downshift+upshift every turn since this car is a "traction monster". But in order for the car to turn you might have to do it on some turns. Actually... I'll link you to a vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVIIaq3Kfp8 - Bart Snow DH R34
I try the similar turning technique... but of course, mine isn't as fast. XD
For uphill... the only times you have to go down to 4th gear are:
1. Consec hairpins - 2nd one and last one
2. LHOD (RHOD on the DH)
3. 2 hairpins before CP4 - the first hairpin.
After you get used to that... it's all a matter of cleaning up the turns. No walls = best. Good luck.
|Posted by: DALAZ_68 Sep 7 2006, 02:36 PM|
ill have to watch the vid at home..its denying access here at work
thanks alow bud
|Posted by: brian mayhem Sep 7 2006, 03:03 PM|
Use that. It will prove to be of some help to you.
Anyway. Don't worry about it. You'll own snow soon, Steve.
|Posted by: Sil80Drifter Sep 7 2006, 03:16 PM|
I don't know.. LOL the first turn is actualy the only REAL problem for me.. because it happens so fast im thinking.. "HOLYOMGOMGOMG" *shifts up and down a billion times and brakes like an S.O.B*
Do you got tips on taking the first turn? Like how many meters away so i turns.. how much do i brake.. should I shift down?
Thats the only real problem for me in Akagi besides lighty tapping the wall on like 4 or 5 turns..
|Posted by: DALAZ_68 Sep 8 2006, 10:33 AM|
i just watched the vid
damn i think i could drop another 3 secs probly
his line is a bit similar to my own
but with better time the exits are about 3-4 Km faster
i will have to test my theory, good looking out coastal
|Posted by: hellspare Sep 9 2006, 02:07 PM|
Feeling cocky? I know you're good but I believe my own eyes more. I did not say 1 eraser, I said I saw 19s w/o tst. I can bet my nuts on this one, I saw it. Honestly, just because you may not be able to, it doesn't mean people who play like 8 hours a day there cannot.
|Posted by: DALAZ_68 Sep 9 2006, 02:10 PM|
ohh get the high horse
its one thing to say u can, and another to say some one else can...if u cant do it then shut up already, u cant do it either, unless u have some kind of proof, say a video.... then by all means post it
|Posted by: hellspare Sep 9 2006, 02:13 PM|
| What dicks.. to be honest our players here got nothing on the players in hong kong. My dad lives in hong kong basically, and I go there every year. I did NOT say I can do it. Ckf runs 54 on akina, do you? Does that mean you are forbidden to talk about what you've seen people do on akina? Don't tell me to shut up, not polite there.
When I visited this summer I realized not everybody there even uses internet rankings. The locals at the arcade there were all VERY good, not as godly as yuet but not much off..
I don't know what kind of proof I can give you. But think of it as a comparison to mainstream music and underground music. Everyone knows about mainstream, but underground is usually unknown. Go take a trip to hong kong and visit the major arcades where everybody hangs out. Top akagi record there was a 19.6, followed by a 19.8, then dipped into 20s.
NO i don't have proof, go see yourself if you don't believe me, or ask someone you know in hong kong to go check. God damn.
And btw my bad, 18 is impossible I got mixed with Happo times.
|Posted by: Sil80Drifter Sep 10 2006, 12:39 AM|
Yeah actualy you do got a pretty good point.. i beleive you. People cant keep track of EVERYONE in the world. Theres gotta be Yuets in every country.. especialy China (Hong Kong) and Japan
|Posted by: Tomo Sep 10 2006, 03:09 AM|
|Posted by: Excel Sep 10 2006, 09:18 AM|
Yuet IS in China 0_o
But ya, I dunno, Odie told me Yuets no TST theory was 19.6 so I believe its possible.
|Posted by: icedagger Sep 11 2006, 06:24 AM|
That's nice to know.
Did he tell you what car? I'd like to know if that's with the RX8 or the S14Q.
What times can I run with an RX8 on Iro DH D without using erasers? Right now I have a low 3'05 with just feint 4i4o. I think I can squeeze it down to 3'04 (optimistically 3'03) by just cleaning up my run and not doing any other techniques, but how far can I go before I should try other ways to take the turns?
|Posted by: Excel Sep 11 2006, 07:49 AM|
| 19'6 with RX-8
For Iro DH, its possible to get 2'59 without eraser, if you look around a bit, theres an old RX-8 video thats 3'00'2 without eraser or even feint on most turns.
|Posted by: icedagger Sep 11 2006, 08:20 AM|
|Thanks! I guess I'll be TAing Iro a bit more before I start trying out erasers on it.|
|Posted by: Larmo Sep 11 2006, 09:49 PM|
where is this vid????? jw
|Posted by: Tomo Sep 11 2006, 10:06 PM|
| "if you look around a bit" means you should look around a bit, it's out there.
Into the air, disperse and conquer.
|Posted by: buusap Sep 12 2006, 01:17 AM|
| hey is dis a good time
Step 4 B tuned EK9 2''55 Tsuichisaka Outbound
|Posted by: DALAZ_68 Sep 12 2006, 09:36 AM|
| ohh my friggun good ness, i keep redlining but f*ckin it up
i think iv reached my limit in this world we call ID
|Posted by: icedagger Sep 12 2006, 08:01 PM|
| @buusap: well you're getting there. If you clean up your run a bit and take the rollers at a decent speed getting below 2'50 is within reach.
EDIT: (Actually getting below 2'50 is possible even if you mess up a bit on the rollers.)
|Posted by: buusap Sep 14 2006, 03:42 AM|
| eheheheh icedagger my time improved to 2''52
is it possible to get 2''50s wif EK9?!?!???!?!?!
o shit it was actually IB sorry guys i play jap version so i get mixed up
EDIT: or jus to put it simple its da way u vs Tak (Takumi) in tsuchi
|Posted by: icedagger Sep 14 2006, 05:12 AM|
| Yeah, it's definitely possible, even without techs. I think all cars can run at least 2'46 on Tsu IB.
And the EK9 model record is 2'40, so you can definitely go a lot faster.
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Sep 14 2006, 07:58 AM|
I got 2'44" at around 200k or something going OB. And 2'47" IB... but that was horrible. XD
Roots of blood and gore, rip and tear!
|Posted by: DALAZ_68 Sep 14 2006, 09:58 AM|
so far i have a 46''7 with ek
|Posted by: Blah! Sep 14 2006, 10:38 AM|
| i ran a 2'45''6xx or 7 on inbound and a 2'46''1xx on outbound...maybe i should try to lower those tsuchi times...since those times were done over a year ago...my ek's inbound time is faster than my E5's...
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Sep 14 2006, 11:59 AM|
Ohhh mannn... gives me a random TA to do for warm-up!
EK Tsuchi IN. Let's see what happens XD
Two more of the same thing minus one gives you the original.
|Posted by: Sil80Drifter Sep 14 2006, 05:57 PM|
|Can someone give me an average noob time for Akagi DH with an FD? I WANNA get a good time so badly but everyone playing around me seams to be 10 times better then me. I lose to other peoples Fds by like 150 meters lol|
|Posted by: icedagger Sep 14 2006, 07:57 PM|
| Try to get under 2'30. I'd call that a decent time if you've only been playing for a while.
Could someone post some section times for an RX-8 on Iro DH D? Anything under 3'03 with minimal techs?
|Posted by: brian mayhem Sep 15 2006, 04:42 AM|
|Hey guys. What should I be shooting for on Happogahara IB with a BT GDB? I was just wondering because there's a possibility that the tourney that I'm going to enter is going to use IB for the TA qualifier and I need like a standard (if that makes any sense) to go by.|
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Sep 15 2006, 09:47 AM|
| With a BT GDB I'd think 25~26.
Pry open your hearts and sew them into your eyes.
|Posted by: jdUb4 Sep 15 2006, 09:52 AM|
|Hey Guys...Uhmm.. On Akagi DH Dry with A BT Trueno 86, what Should I be Hitting CP1 With? I'm getting 44 but I feel like that's not Good Enough|
|Posted by: RX-7 Sep 16 2006, 02:51 AM|
| ^^^u should be aiming for around 42.
i was just wondering how fast can a stock rx-8 can go in shomaru outbound?
|Posted by: icedagger Sep 18 2006, 04:59 AM|
|How's 2'50 on Usui CCW Dry /w an RX8?|
|Posted by: Larmo Sep 18 2006, 04:40 PM|
|w/ or w/o techs w/o techs i'd say pretty good and w/ techs need some work|
|Posted by: Cowman715 Sep 20 2006, 04:41 PM|
Is that good? NA6C... 2 erasers the rest is basic breaking shifting down/gas off
Might I add... LOTS OF TIME lol And I still say I suck.
|Posted by: Larmo Sep 20 2006, 04:54 PM|
|nice job cow|
|Posted by: icedagger Sep 21 2006, 12:40 AM|
| I run slower in my RX8.
I'm the one who sucks, not you! Nice work Cow.
|Posted by: brian_infinispirit Sep 21 2006, 07:11 AM|
| 3'08"875 shomaru ob wet (R32, FT)
2'26"5xx akagi dh dry (GC8V, FT)
2'49"047 tsuchisaka ib wet (R32, FT)
2'31"8xx akagi uh dry (FD3SVI, FT)
are these fast enough?... btw i'm playing us version machines...
|Posted by: Tomo Sep 21 2006, 07:52 AM|
|shomaru obw should be like 3 seconds faster to be decent... and you could easily get better on akagi DHD as well... What it comes down to is, are you happy with your own times? Don't worry about what any of us say we are stat whores =_=|
|Posted by: Chrono Sep 21 2006, 08:12 AM|
Are you happy with your own times?
Me for example...
Im happy with my own times...
Cause at my arcade im like 3-4 seconds faster than everyone!
But compared to the other players here on the forum, im not even decent yet...
But practice, and learning new/old stuff will definately get you up there with the rest of the ID Maniacs!
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Sep 21 2006, 09:18 AM|
| I'm kinda happy with most of my times... and some are just like "GAH!"
But the fact that the damn arcade techs around here won't maintain their machines isn't my fault. Oh well.
Dogs and cats, lions and rats: all bound through tails!
|Posted by: icedagger Sep 21 2006, 04:12 PM|
| Hehehe, My times are okay, for where I play anyway.
Most of the other regulars have given up trying to get the number 1 spot on some of the boards because a few months ago some folks from the city dropped by and left some records no one has been able to break lately. I've been working on them and trying to take'em back.
Of course whoever set them could probably go a lot faster X_X, so I guess that means I'll have to knock a few more seconds off of all my times at least.
Anyway, what's a good Akina DH Dry time for an RX8 with no erasers? I'm trying to push it as far as I can go without using erasers.
|Posted by: Larmo Sep 21 2006, 04:54 PM|
|hard to say|
|Posted by: Chrono Sep 21 2006, 10:28 PM|
As for the time for the SE3P...
I say a 3'06 i dunno...
I ran a 3'09 with my buddies on my first try with just braking and downshifting
I hated how the car drove so i didnt even bother trying to reduce the time... hahaha
Non-Locals who set machine records will definately help you improve!
Here at my arcade...
Some dude from washington came last year during the summer and set records all over the machine...
I know this because he came this past summer and i raced him... i lost but i improved greatly since...
I was so mad that a non-local held the records so that was my motivation to get better...
Now ive taken all of the records back and beat his by 2-4 seconds!
Go for it and take whats yours back!
|Posted by: buusap Sep 22 2006, 02:36 AM|
| is dis good
a tune trueno 3''03 no eraser only 5i4o
lol my friend was so shocked because he used eraser and every tech but got a 3''13
|Posted by: dragonsho Sep 22 2006, 04:33 AM|
|Uhhh, what course?|
|Posted by: icedagger Sep 22 2006, 07:41 AM|
| Probably Akina. Well, at least I hope it's Akina.
It would be good on Akina or Iro DH.
|Posted by: brian_infinispirit Sep 22 2006, 07:58 AM|
i'm kinda pleased with my shomaru obw time since i don't see too many people set fast times in wet conditions... and it's difficult for me to improve from it...
for akagi dh, i think i can run a 2'25 when i get lucky... the machine records here are in the 2'22-2'23 bracket... so i guess i'm contented with it...
for the other times i have (which i didn't post), on the average, i'm around 6-12 seconds off the WR, and i can live with those times intact....
|Posted by: Sil80Drifter Sep 22 2006, 06:54 PM|
|Does anybody know the record time for an FD, Myogi Wet CW? I think i beat it. xD.. ill put my card number tihngy on the internet if i did|
|Posted by: Chrono Sep 22 2006, 10:15 PM|
With a FD3S Type R...
With a FD3S Spirit...
|Posted by: Sil80Drifter Sep 22 2006, 11:27 PM|
| 2'56!? holy shit thats nuts nvm LOL..
My best time is like..2'59
|Posted by: MatteoITR Sep 23 2006, 08:09 AM|
|It's good 2:27:3xx on Akagi with the DC2?|
|Posted by: Sil80Drifter Sep 23 2006, 10:56 AM|
Yes i think thats pretty good.. i see a few people at my arcade getting around there with theirs
|Posted by: buusap Sep 23 2006, 09:45 PM|
yeah it is akina i only do akina and iroha wif my trueno
|Posted by: Arcy Sep 24 2006, 08:47 AM|
that's almost the same time as mines a little higher.... go for that 10 star akagi now, with blocking of course! lol.
|Posted by: Chrono Sep 24 2006, 08:55 AM|
Forcing Bunta to kiss your @$$!
Im sure hes familiar with the smell of your crack hahahah
Good job with your DC2!!!
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Sep 24 2006, 09:33 AM|
Hm. If the car is FT, I wouldn't say so. I run 3'00 without doing anything but brake+downshift.
@icedagger: I'd like to think that it's possible to run 3'04" Akina DH RX-8 without eraser, if not 3'03" high. Very hard to do, though.
You should try it with an R34... I think I ran like 3'09" or something. XD
|Posted by: HALO Sep 24 2006, 10:47 AM|
| i managed to run a 2'44''933 on tsuchi outbound dry a few days ago...no eraser or any other tricks
its the course record at my arcade, was just curious how it compares to some others
|Posted by: matt Sep 24 2006, 10:57 AM|
yeh thats pretty good. I have a 26'405 with my DC2.
|Posted by: Cowman715 Sep 24 2006, 11:47 AM|
| Got a few times for you guys
All with an NA6C
Usui CCW 2:52
Akina DHD 3:05:050
Akagi DHD 2:25
Happo IBD 2:24
Tsuchi OBD 2:47 (Got it down! lol)
Iro DHD 3:04:2
What do ya'll think?
PS I know I suck
|Posted by: Chrono Sep 24 2006, 02:38 PM|
I really like your Akina, Irohazaka, and Tsuchisaka times!
With my NA6CE...
Im like 1 second away from your akina time...
And like couple of seconds away from your others...
You amaze me... i dont even have a clue on how i can improve at the moment
You didnt post your Shomaru time...
But that one is impressive too!
|Posted by: matt Sep 24 2006, 02:44 PM|
|nice times COW!|
|Posted by: dragonsho Sep 26 2006, 03:26 PM|
|How is 2'44.4 for Tsuchi OB with a Half Tune RX-8? Also how is about 2'27? I'm not sure of my time it's between 27 and 29 on Happo IB with same RX-8. If not what times should I aim for?|
|Posted by: Cowman715 Sep 26 2006, 07:15 PM|
| How are these times?
I also have the CP times for Sho
Which should I work on... Odviously CP4 the most... but anything else that looks not so good?
|Posted by: Chrono Sep 26 2006, 10:01 PM|
| Nice one COW!
You cut off a huge chunk in time!
Now lets see you cut it down some more!
|Posted by: Excel Sep 27 2006, 11:57 AM|
Not bad, could use a bit of improvement, but definately on the right track. You guys finally get v3?
|Posted by: dragonsho Sep 27 2006, 02:30 PM|
| Nah, I just play at Salem Willows now. No feedback in the wheels but doesn't matter to me since I play on looseness one anway. Good Times is terrible. The left cab gas barely works.
Believe it or not that 2'44 took the Tsuchi record by about 2 seconds or maybe more
|Posted by: TruenoDriver99 Sep 27 2006, 03:39 PM|
|is a 3'11 good on akina wit a AE 86 trueno for an average person. also on the turns for example like the first turn on akina u start the turn in 5th gear do u shift down to 4th then 5th and turn or just shift down and let go of the accel pedal a lil bit b4 the turn? thanx if u answer a.s.a.p|
|Posted by: dragonsho Sep 27 2006, 05:04 PM|
|3'11 is ok for an average player if you play from time to time but not really. What you should do for the first turn is stay in fifth, go to the outside, brake turn in and shift down to 4th at the apex of the turn then step on the gas when you feel you've cleared the turn and wont hit any walls.|
|Posted by: DrifterD Sep 27 2006, 07:27 PM|
|got my time down from 3'03'8 to 3'02'5 with my FT cappu on shomaru OBD|
|Posted by: buusap Sep 28 2006, 03:11 AM|
| 3''03 iroha wif evo 4
no techs jus 4i3o
hope its good
|Posted by: rx8driver Sep 28 2006, 04:02 AM|
no...3'11 is not a good time
i am a complete akina noob who never TA on akina..
i get 3'09 on the first try...and 3'07 on my 2nd try..with a 86 of course
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Sep 28 2006, 07:18 AM|
Or else what?
No one around here should sugarcoat things for people.
I'll tell you that with an E4... 3'03" is less than average even with no techs.
And it shouldn't matter to you if anyone else says it's good or not. If it's good to YOU, and you're satisfied, then there shouldn't be anything to worry about.
|Posted by: Cowman715 Sep 28 2006, 10:28 AM|
| Ehem... Well... Does anyone know what CP's I should work on Shomaru... Hasn't been answered yet... I know the 4th CP
But... 1-3 how do they seem for an NA?
|Posted by: Excel Sep 28 2006, 12:44 PM|
| CP1 - not bad, but could probably shave a good .1 or .2
CP2 - this could use the most work, you could probably cut another .5 or so from this.
CP3 - again, not too shabby, probably .1 or .2 off of that
CP4 - you already know this is weak, could probably kill another .5 or .6 from this. I mean, the R32 can get a .6 in CP4 in the rain, no reason the NA6CE shouldn't be able to either.
|Posted by: Cowman715 Sep 28 2006, 12:49 PM|
| Thanks... I know my CP1 I wall tapped 2 spots... Slowed down my Accel for a bit to.. so there is the .2 lol
CP2 without a doubt is my worst CP... Although this is the CP I also cut down the most time... like .6 or whatever that is lol.
My CP3 I'm not sure whatelse I could do exsept for really the only turn in CP3 which is the turn before CP4 lol Everything else you floor it... So I'm gussing I could work on the M turn as well...
Thanks by the way... I'm gonna write down thoes CPs next time I go
Oh yeah... and the last CP I wall taped the Only turn in CP3 which slowed me down for the ENTIRE CP4... So I mean really... it affect CP3/4... So theres the time that's missing.
|Posted by: Excel Sep 28 2006, 01:15 PM|
M turn is key... if you even so much as tap the wall on either the first or 2nd part of it, you will stall your accel by quite a bit for the rest of the CP. Alot of people I see playing don't seem to realize that that tapping the wall on the first turn will stall accel even after the 2nd turn, and also you wont enter the 2nd turn as fast, so you can't exit as fast.
|Posted by: TruenoDriver99 Sep 28 2006, 06:24 PM|
thanx dragon sho ill try that. i know im a huge noob but decent at my arcade.
|Posted by: Arcy Sep 28 2006, 10:58 PM|
| dropped my akagi time down to a...
2'27'1xx -> 2'26'304 in about 2 tries.... =) with the DC2... I know where I made the mistakes as well. It was on the consec. hairpins on CP4. So expect a 2'25 soon. .
|Posted by: MatteoITR Sep 29 2006, 05:24 AM|
Good work Arcy!!!!!
|Posted by: matt Sep 29 2006, 07:20 PM|
|o nice time man!|
|Posted by: ?wha? Oct 1 2006, 04:15 AM|
| 3'40 in a MR2 on snow (can do a fair bit better) tail ground out the double hairpin after CP 1 >>__<< is this any good?
2'28 on akagi dhd with the same car >_< lmao THIS IS CRAP. was up 1sec at the end of CP2 but messed 3rd section.. anyone have any tips for that?
|Posted by: Excel Oct 1 2006, 09:15 AM|
|2'28 Akagi MR2 is pretty average, 3'40 snow is kinda bad though. 2'28 is about 7 seconds from the record, that about pretty average, 3'40 is 17 seconds away from the MR2 record, 3'30ish would be pretty average for the MR2.|
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Oct 1 2006, 12:53 PM|
Hahaha... for a second I thought you were talking Akagi UHD MR2. XD
|Posted by: Renzeiken Oct 4 2006, 10:39 AM|
|I'm doing Akina DH/Dry with my A-Tune 86 Trueno and im still pulling 3:03. Is this on okay time, especially since it's been 2 months and I can't seem to go faster. (if i do, it's only a hundredth of a second so that doesn't count)|
|Posted by: Chrono Oct 4 2006, 11:32 AM|
| With an AE86...
I would say you're getting to an okay time...
I myself aint even at an okay time yet...
3'00'2 is my current time so close...
From what some say...
Sub 3 is considered decent?
But if you're happy with your time then thats what really counts!
Tighten up your lines...
As little wall contacts as possible...
Fast clean cornering...
With just that you should be able to shave off quite a bit of time...
At least a second or two...
But dont give up!
Keep at it and you'll do it!
|Posted by: icedagger Oct 4 2006, 11:52 AM|
| If you're already using erasers and/or tsts, then 3'03 is a bit slow for an AE86 and you need to work on it a bit. But for 2 months of play I think 3'03 is decent, eraser or no eraser.
Heh, but you're a lot faster than I am. I run 3'08 with no techs except feint (using an RX8).
I'm hoping to get 3'03 before I start using erasers though.
|Posted by: hellspare Oct 4 2006, 10:08 PM|
|No-tech with some of the understeering cars(compared to crazy oversteer like truenos)makes your time very slow. I no teched Akina for like a month on my Evo IV, and the best I ever got to was a high 04. With just eraser I was getting a low 02.|
|Posted by: icedagger Oct 4 2006, 10:15 PM|
|I just want to see how fast I can take the corners without resorting to erasers. Right now I'm getting better results with just basic techs. 6i5o doesn't seem to work at all for me unless I do erasers. I get better exits with 5i5o (first hairpin with 5i5o I get 134, and with 6i5o best I've managed was 130)|
|Posted by: Arcy Oct 5 2006, 08:05 PM|
| I played happo ib for the first time seriously in such a long time...
Dropped my TA from 2'23'5xx -> 2'22'848 with DC2... I made plenty of errors that I know I can correct too so expect a low 2'22- high 2'21 soon.
|Posted by: RX-7 Oct 6 2006, 03:30 AM|
|got a 2:25:xxx with my evo 4 500K. could of gone faster if i didn't stuff up my v turn.|
|Posted by: DrifterD Oct 7 2006, 01:37 AM|
| new times on IR with my cappuccino
|Posted by: matt Oct 7 2006, 01:40 AM|
|i'm guessing thats akagi dh?|
|Posted by: DrifterD Oct 7 2006, 07:15 PM|
|Updated my capp time on akina dhd 3'02'282 so?|
|Posted by: NBK Oct 7 2006, 11:55 PM|
| Is a 2:58.5xx in a non-full-tuned RX-8 good?
#2 in central.
|Posted by: SkiTzRyCheN Oct 8 2006, 12:54 AM|
|that's cool NBK! i want to gain more bunta stars on Shomaru|
|Posted by: icedagger Oct 10 2006, 04:33 PM|
| What's a good time for a Cappu on Usui CCW D? (no techs?)
Haven't TA'd with mine yet, but my best run I've made so far against Bunta (no blocking) was 2'51.
It wasn't even quarter tuned then...
|Posted by: Chrono Oct 10 2006, 10:16 PM|
Dude you and i have like about the same times!!!
Im faster than you on some and you're faster than me on some!
One day if the moons align and stuffers we should battle!
It would be awesome!
But aside from that...
I TA'ed with my AE86 on Akina Snow/DH...
3'28'high to a 3'27mid!
Holy crap its still a slow time but im getting the hang of snow...
Lines are damn hard to perfect in snow!
Freakin little wall contacts kills times too...
Wheel jerking does wonders in snow!
|Posted by: DrifterD Oct 11 2006, 05:58 PM|
|wow. thats some crazy stuff man. man i wanna go to the mainland and battle you now.lol. i bet your way faster than me on snow since im so slow at it|
|Posted by: Chrono Oct 11 2006, 10:04 PM|
Dude it would be awesome to battle you!
Green aura battle!
Well ill be up for it if it ever comes by us!
We should battle it out on all tracks!
Well before i learned some stuff i was running a 3'31 on Akina Snow/DH
Freakin slow as heck!
I need to try it again and see what im at now...
|Posted by: DrifterD Oct 11 2006, 11:42 PM|
|i ran a 3'33 in battle but i never TAed in a long time. thats what im gonna do first the next time i go play. btw where do u live at anyways?|
|Posted by: Chrono Oct 12 2006, 07:45 AM|
| Im located in colorado...
Ahahahah how about yourself?
I should start practicing with it again!
|Posted by: NBK Oct 12 2006, 11:54 AM|
Not too bad... First try I ran a 3:01.1xx, but that's after doing Akina in storymode.
|Posted by: DrifterD Oct 13 2006, 12:07 AM|
damn. im all the way on the rock......go figure
|Posted by: Cowman715 Oct 13 2006, 03:58 PM|
| Have a few times with my Capp
Shomaru 1 and only try 3:01:573
Akina 1 and only try 3:04:201
Anyone? Good/bad? Mind you BOTH of them was really the first time I played it seriously... The others were LOTS.
PS! I AM SO PISSED! 1 try with my Capp and I beat my NA time that I tried about 5000 tries!! lgrjal;gjr!%#!^Tj n8hds
|Posted by: icedagger Oct 13 2006, 04:01 PM|
| Capps can go quite a bit faster on Shomaru, but you're still running faster than I am there.
Our Capps have about the same tuning points and I'm 2 seconds behind you on Akina. I haven't TA'd Shomaru yet though.
|Posted by: matt Oct 13 2006, 09:13 PM|
damn thats pretty good
|Posted by: dragonsho Oct 14 2006, 05:06 PM|
|How's 3'04.2 in a 200k trueno? I tried again and was -1 sec but messed up so i lost it. It's so weird not understeering|
|Posted by: -eViL- Oct 14 2006, 06:11 PM|
For someone that has 30stars thats a pretty bad time.
|Posted by: icedagger Oct 14 2006, 06:35 PM|
|@-eViL-: Try running that time on a DC2. Good luck!|
|Posted by: -eViL- Oct 14 2006, 06:57 PM|
Try running within a three seconds of my times.. Good Luck!
|Posted by: CoffeeMan Oct 15 2006, 02:23 AM|
| ^^ xD
Hey mat u still playing at hornsby timezone? Got owned by faith today yay. When can i get owned by u sometime?
Cheers, Luke (aka s13..)
|Posted by: icedagger Oct 15 2006, 04:52 AM|
| @evil: yeah, I guess I am a noob.
Anyway, if Arcy does post that time in the IR it would get in the top 50 for the model... Although the MR is still 2'22, he's only 4 seconds away.
Seeing as the DC2 isn't that popular in v3, it still is an achievement. (Sorry, no disrespect meant by that last post)
|Posted by: -eViL- Oct 15 2006, 05:08 AM|
ehhh, every now and then.. once a week at best.
|Posted by: -eViL- Oct 15 2006, 05:11 AM|
he's only 4 seconds away? 4 seconds it ALOT..
Top50 isnt that hard for a car like DC2.. its actually pretty easy.
|Posted by: icedagger Oct 15 2006, 05:38 AM|
| ^ Well okay... Sorry, my bad.
|Posted by: 207 Oct 15 2006, 05:53 AM|
|-evil- pls dont double post just edit the previous post, if u want to quote a second person then just copy and paste|
|Posted by: TruenoDriver99 Oct 15 2006, 04:55 PM|
|207...is the evo 7 tune c good?|
|Posted by: 207 Oct 15 2006, 05:49 PM|
| ya, i find it to be good, its imo a average car, bit annoying on happo but its near last there. havent experimented with other tunes/parts, still pure tune c. im satisfied with its perormance,
trueno: wat tune is yours?
|Posted by: Sil80Drifter Oct 15 2006, 06:04 PM|
|is 3'00 with the FD3S good on Tsuchi Outbound? xD|
|Posted by: TruenoDriver99 Oct 15 2006, 06:05 PM|
|mine is tune A. you got one?|
|Posted by: Sil80Drifter Oct 15 2006, 06:06 PM|
| ^^.. is it a good time?
|Posted by: icedagger Oct 15 2006, 06:21 PM|
|not really. There's a lot of room for improvement. 2'50s are easy, just keep wall taps to a minimum. You can get into the 2'40s by getting good exit speeds while stilll keeping a clean run.|
|Posted by: Sil80Drifter Oct 15 2006, 06:44 PM|
| I dont get how to do the roller coasters though!!!
On one of the really sharp turns on the coaster.. i get wheel lock.
|Posted by: 207 Oct 15 2006, 07:59 PM|
no only 1 car- tune c
sil80: i know how u feel, after the main part of the roller coasters the 2 sharp turns always get wheel lock (the u-turn after the 5th right hand turn )
|Posted by: Smikey Oct 15 2006, 08:04 PM|
Ive had all the tunes, I still find Tune C to be more power and accel wise. The other tunes I find cornering better. It could be just me and all the tunes are the same except for looks, but if that were the case then why offer tunes? Why not jsut give the option to customize your car.
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Oct 15 2006, 08:14 PM|
| I'd like to know...
How do you guys judge a "good" time?
For me... being a certain amount of seconds from WR/MR determines how "good" the time is. If you're within...
4+ sec = below average
3sec = average
2sec = pretty good (decent)
1sec = good
|Posted by: icedagger Oct 15 2006, 10:30 PM|
| I judge it by the times average players get (by average I mean folks who aren't really into the game and haven't playing that long) . Some othe critiera:
-How long the player has been playing.
-Techs or no techs.
My standards are pretty low I guess...
|Posted by: junetrish024 Oct 15 2006, 10:49 PM|
|not really ice... if your to mention it all, those two really sums the skills you can acquire upon playing initial d... right?|
|Posted by: Smikey Oct 15 2006, 10:57 PM|
| Coastal, I wouldn't go as far to say that, It seems like a harsh scale and that puts nearly everyone into the below average scale. Most people that come here aren't average players. I consider the average player one who plays like once in awhile has a card, but doesn't play as often as some of the better players. I'd have to redo your time analysis.
I'd say, In relation to WR:
+1 - Really Good
+2 to +3 - Pretty Good
+4 to +5 - Good
+6 to +7 - Decent
+8 to +9 - Average
+10 and up - Below Average.
It is just me, others maye have a different take. Maybe I am being too lenient.
|Posted by: Excel Oct 15 2006, 11:05 PM|
| Thats why I was against this kinda topic in the first place. Asking how good your time is is pretty subjective, the opinion will change from person to person. A good player will have different standards then someone who just plays occasionally.
Generally speaking, I think -
.5 - 1 second from the record - good
1.5 - 3 - average
3+ - decent to bad
Which is why I don't make videos, I don't think its fast enough to be interesting, except maybe 2-3 of my times. Also why I rarely download videos any more.
|Posted by: -eViL- Oct 16 2006, 03:46 AM|
In a word? No.
|Posted by: EA99 Oct 16 2006, 03:56 AM|
|lol, hey If i did a TA on Tsuchi Id be in Top 50 for the MR2 I run a 2:54:xx outbound So yeah ITS THE CAR!!!! Boooo Booo!! I.e. I tried an Automatic STOCK GDB the other day... I got the same time as I do in my Fulltune MR2 =.="|
|Posted by: brian mayhem Oct 16 2006, 04:09 AM|
|With all this being said and my skills somewhat known, what should I be shooting for on Akagi DH in a HT GC8?|
|Posted by: Faith Oct 16 2006, 04:11 AM|
|prolly high '22 low '23|
|Posted by: brian mayhem Oct 16 2006, 04:14 AM|
| A '22 huh? I'll see what I can do this weekend.
Thanks for the input, Faith.
|Posted by: Excel Oct 16 2006, 06:41 AM|
In a half tune GC8? The record is only 22'low isnt it?
|Posted by: CoastalmixX Oct 16 2006, 06:47 AM|
Maybe you didn't fully read my post.
Before I posted my criteria, I said "For me..."
This means I apply that criteria to myself, and not exactly to everyone else.
|Posted by: Faith Oct 16 2006, 07:05 AM|
it is? i thought it was '21 ... my bad
|Posted by: Arcy Oct 18 2006, 08:59 PM|
|hows a 2'24'1xx with a 100,000 pt ek9 on happo inbound? I bought it a couple days ago to be my new FF driver since I'm thinkin bout retiring the DC2 and let the 8 mil pt baby rest. =p. hahaha I beat bunta 15 out of 16 times on happo ib in one day. The reason why I lost once is because I was f'in around thinkin I would never lose. haha.|
|Posted by: Tomo Oct 18 2006, 11:05 PM|
|thats not that bad, i got a 22 stock ek9 happo ib before tho|
|Posted by: Arcy Oct 19 2006, 05:20 AM|
damn ! lol... ill keep working at it. I'm pretty sure I can get a 2'20 FT with this thing once I get used to it. It's a little stiffer than my dc2. =p
|Posted by: Tomo Oct 19 2006, 12:51 PM|
|yeah, it's a bit more stable as well I really like it, I miss my FT one|
|Posted by: Cowman715 Oct 22 2006, 06:35 PM|
Hows the Iro?
|Posted by: Tomo Oct 22 2006, 06:48 PM|
|if you aren't using wall rape then it's pretty good if you are then you need to work on it more. either way, not bad cow.|
|Posted by: Cowman715 Oct 22 2006, 06:58 PM|
|OH YEAH RIGHT! Without the wall tech... please... I run like a 8... lol|
|Posted by: chubbbayaidan Oct 22 2006, 07:32 PM|
|Any tips on breaking the 3'00"xx barrier with a DC2 on V2? Please?|
|Posted by: Tomo Oct 22 2006, 07:40 PM|
|have a clean line. that is all. getting under 3'00 is cake even with a BT dc2 on v.2. wrong place to post that question also.|
|Posted by: Chrono Oct 22 2006, 10:12 PM|
What the heck are you smoking?
Very nice times!
Keep at it!
|Posted by: TruenoDriver99 Oct 23 2006, 02:38 PM|
|is 3'08 good with a 600k tuned AEM car. for a decent player?|
|Posted by: Excel Oct 23 2006, 03:08 PM|
|Whats an AEM 0_o|
|Posted by: Tomo Oct 23 2006, 03:16 PM|
|they make intakes pulleys fuel rails fuel filters EMS and cam gears.|
|Posted by: TruenoDriver99 Oct 23 2006, 03:19 PM|
|sorry my bad. i meant the AE86 trueno|
|Posted by: brian mayhem Oct 24 2006, 05:06 AM|
|Anyone have input on what I should be running with a stock Evo IV on Irohazaka DH Dry?|
|Posted by: icedagger Oct 24 2006, 05:08 AM|
| I think Razorsuke has a 2'59 vid with a stock Evo4.
Yup, here's the vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t8HXE8tO7g
EDIT: added link.
|Posted by: driftshift Oct 24 2006, 03:00 PM|
|Hello. Im wondering if a 3:20 on irohazaka is good with an Evo 3.|
|Posted by: *ALPHA* Oct 24 2006, 05:36 PM|
|no, it isnt lol.... sry to say ><;|
|Posted by: driftshift Oct 24 2006, 05:57 PM|
|Well is there anything you can suggest to me so i can get a better time.|
|Posted by: icedagger Oct 24 2006, 06:07 PM|
| If you're running 3'20 that means you're not braking enough. Try not to hit the walls as much and you can easily shave at least 10 seconds off your time. Just make sure you're braking enough for each turn and you'll do okay.
When you can run the course reasonably cleanly without too many unnecessary wall contacts, start working on tightening up your line.
EDIT: E3s can be pushed below 3'.
|Posted by: driftshift Oct 24 2006, 06:11 PM|
|Ok thanks for the advice.|
|Posted by: *ALPHA* Oct 25 2006, 09:43 AM|
|wel... basically... thats about all u need... besides that.. er.. maybe take all the corners in 3rd gear, except the first corner|
|Posted by: zgatx Oct 26 2006, 05:39 AM|
| What time should I be getting from the following things?
V3 n00b + GDB + Happo IB Dry = ?Â¿?Â¿
|Posted by: rx8driver Oct 30 2006, 07:31 PM|
| 200K MR2 happo ib dry - 2'28"
is this a good time?
btw, i run 2'27"-2'28" happo ib wet and 2'30" happo ib dry with FT RX8
any suggestion on how to improve my CP1? i really slow there
|Posted by: RX-7 Oct 31 2006, 02:26 AM|
|a decent time that u can beat bunta until 10th star with ur mr2. to improve ur ib dry time rx-8, all i can sugest is don't crash.|
|Posted by: kaiku Oct 31 2006, 09:18 AM|
| hows a 3'05 on iro with a 8v =/
around 700k points?
|Posted by: Sil80Drifter Oct 31 2006, 10:11 AM|
|ZOMGGGG i am so pissed LOL. ok im running 2'39 on Akagi DH with my FD35. (I hope people know what im talking about..) do you gus know that turn in the first or second section? Theres like 4 really fast turns.. then suddenly theres this BIG hairpin? Im not sure how to describe there it is.. but if you guys know what im talking about can someone tell me how to take it? I rape the wall 4/10 times i do it|