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FF Cars are easier to comprehend when we are just getting to know the game.

Once we know what we are suppose to do, switch to our preference drive-train

strioch - does your FD type R and RS have large differences? especially in battles? thanks!

I only use the Type R / FC for Time attacks in Akagi, never tried using it for battle since both are still Stock and not planning to .

The Type R are on par in Akagi compared to my FD type RS Timings which is for a stock car.

You might want to try out for yourself

so you are saying that there no difference between the two since both get the same times, what about handling

There are differences of course, since 1 is stock and the other is almost FT

I can't feel any difference for handling between the FD3S & FD3S6

But for the FC, it handles better , I always improve the lining of my Akina DH after using the FC, will shave around 0.2xx secs after each personal record break

can we continue in the Mazda thread instead?
https://idforums.net/index.php?showtopic=37...5&#entry1073517


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i think...

Point 18 can be put together with 9.. or below 9 since they are are about tunings..






Modified the opponent list a little..
(Tsukuba shouldddd be correct. Everything else i'm pretty sure.)



Unlocking is needed during the first round of Story Mode.
All opponents are avaliable 2nd round onwards.
Beating Bunta is optional for story advancement



Lake Akina

Iketani　Counter Clockwise Dry Day
SILVIA K's （S13）

Fake Project D Clockwise Dry Day
SPRINTER TRUENO GT-APEX （AE86）
(Unlocked after Iketani is beaten on Akina Lake)

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Myogi

Kenta　DH Wet Day
Silvia Q's (S14)

Shingo DH Dry Night
Honda Civic (EG6)

Nakazato Takeshi　UH Dry Night
SKYLINE GT-R V・spec II (BNR32)
(Unlocked after Kenta and Shingo are beaten on Myogi)

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Akagi

Kenji DH Dry Day
180SX TYPE II (RPS13)

Kyoko UH Day Night
Mazda RX-7 Type R (FD3S)

Ryosuke DH Dry Night
Mazda RX-7 ∞III (FC3S)
(Unlocked after Kenji and Kyoko are beaten on Akagi)

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Akina

Itsuki UH Dry Day
COROLLA LEVIN SR (AE85)

Mako & Sayuki DH Dry Day
SILEIGHTY (RPS13)

Senji DH Dry Night
LANCER RS EVOLUTION IV (CN9A)

Keisuke UH Dry Night
Mazda RX-7 Type R (FD3S)

Takumi DH Dry Night
SPRINTER TRUENO GT-APEX (AE86)
(Unlocked after Itsuki, Mako & Sayuki, Senji, Keisuke are beaten on Akina)

Bunta DH Dry Night
IMPREZA WRX type R STi Version V (GC8)
(Unlocked after Takumi is beaten on Nagao)

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Irohazaka

Kai DH Dry Night
Toyota MR2 G-Limited (SW20)

Kyoichi DH Dry Night
LANCER GSR Evolution III (CE9A)
(Unlocked after Kai is beaten on Irohazaka)

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Happohagara

Daiki OB Dry Day
CIVIC TYPE R (EK9)

Sakai IB Dry Day
INTEGRA TYPE R (DC2)

Ryosuke OB Dry Night
Mazda RX-7 ∞III (FC3S)

Tomoyuki Tachi IB Dry Night
CIVIC TYPE R (EK9)
(Unlocked after Daiki, Sakai and Ryosuke are beaten on Happo)

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Tsukuba

Two morons from Tokyo OB Dry Day
Silvia spec-R (S15)

Wataru IB Wet Day
COROLLA LEVIN GT-APEX (AE86)

"GOD HAND" OB Dry Night
Honda S2000 (AP1)
(Unlocked after 2 idiots, Wataru are beaten on Tsukuba)

"GOD FOOT" IB Dry Night
SKYLINE GT-R V・spec II Nur (BNR34)
(Unlocked after God Hand is beaten on Tsukuba)

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Nagao

Kobayakawa UH Dry Day
LANCER EVOLUTION VII GSR (CT9A)

Omiya DH Dry Day
ROADSTER RS (NB8C)

Kai DH Dry Night
MR-S S EDITION (ZZW30)
(Unlocked after everyone else is beaten on other tracks besides Bunta who is still locked)

Hideo Minagawa UH Dry Night
SUPRA RZ (JZA80)
(Unlocked after Kai is beaten on Nagao)

Keisuke UH Dry Night
Mazda RX-7 Type R (FD3S)
(Unlocked after Hideo Minagawa is beaten on Nagao)

Takumi DH Dry Night
SPRINTER TRUENO GT-APEX (AE86)
(Unlocked after Keisuke is beaten on Nagao)

This post has been edited by stormfox on May 13 2009, 05:08 PM

Updated

Thanks stormfox

myrecent finding

mr and fr no difference in startup. if there is, it's very slight that it doesn't make a difference.

i haven't tried with the ffs yet.

This post has been edited by shadow_z3r0 on May 14 2009, 02:23 AM

Noted, so its true that there is a difference even though if its very little

a little bit la. so far i've tried mr2 vs na6c. the mr2 took the lead only because the na6c had a blunder in shifting.

with regards to startup...i think more experiments like shadow_zero's can be done, using same FT cars with different starts, and different FT cars with same starts. for example,

gc8, cold start + gc8, hot start

gc8, hot start + miata, cold start

this way we can find out the differences between hot and cold starts, and prove whether or not weaker drivetrains like FF can out-do a lousy 4WD start, or FFs are doomed to crawl before they run...

there no need for that, we just need to find out the top cars that has off the line start since that is what important, right now it looks like the 4WD has the advantage so need to find out whether its the GDBF, R32, or another 4WD

please, feel free to experiment and not wait for answers

agreed.

well.. unless someone wants to sponsor shadow_z3r0 to do the comparisons... now that is a different story right?

Heard from a friend that there is a problem with renewing our card.

Is it true ?

Well the cards dont EXPIRE, from what I've read around the forums so I find it hard to imagine any problem renewing them.

In the future though, who knows.

I just know about...when the card limit reaches to zero, need to renew the card. The data will be transfer into new card, right? But, I'm got worried and you said about...renew problem and all data will be LOST!!!

the card life doesn't reach zero. when u reach 11, it stays at 11.

but anyway, haven't really confirmed this, but there seems to be another prob with the EXP machines. when they are unlininked, then we do TA's, and then linked again, the TA records becomed jumbbled up and scattered all over. example, your akina time in tsukuba, etc, etc. haven't really confirmed this yet, but accdg to ultradd it also happen at their arcade in singapore

time attack bug not only just happen at singapore and HK, but also occur in malaysia as well.. this applies to most EXP version..

wtf is the point in playing the EXP version then ? Seems pretty fkn broken to me...

Yarly. I'd rather play ID4 English, even with all its flaws, than ID5 EXP. Sega really dropped the ball this time...

This post has been edited by Ke6dRt on May 19 2009, 10:03 AM

Ver.5 sounds and looks very fun to me. Ver.4 was just a mistake altogether imo, but ver.5 seems like it could be fun. I just don't get why they release this EXP version with all these problems...and why they don't make an english version or at least export it to North America is beyond me...

This post has been edited by Lunar on May 19 2009, 11:04 AM

Yeah ID4 has some majorly funky physics and it sucks that the English version doesn't have everything the Japanese has, but at least the game freakin works.

somebody need to email sega and find out why isn't north america getting their hands on it because this is plainly wrong

well I know there are ID5 machines in california so it has come to north america.