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LukeSi | Posted: Jan 5 2018, 03:51 AM |
Shmuck Group: Members Posts: 2 Member No.: 39,846 Joined: Dec 25th 2012 Location: Update Profile | Ok so I'm probably clutching at straws. Throughout the whole of iD (I've only seen the anime) it is shown that Bunta has connections. What if it goes deeper than him just having connections. Something I briefly mentioned in a fan fic I'm still writing is that Bunta is a development driver for Toyota. Seems far fetched yes, but it would explain a lot. The engine that he put in the 86,not just something you could get easily. So my theory is, Bunta is a development driver for at least Toyota. Thoughts? [ Post made via Mobile Device ] |
Nomake Wan | Posted: Jan 5 2018, 07:13 AM |
ShiMACHaze Group: Advanced Members Posts: 19,542 Member No.: 5,394 Joined: Feb 5th 2005 Location: Drydock | Best of luck with your fanfic. |
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Meteor | Posted: Jan 5 2018, 08:42 AM |
Were you expecting something else? Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,921 Member No.: 20,929 Joined: Oct 14th 2006 Location: Some place in South-East Asia | There is precisely nothing provided within Initial D to either support or debunk this idea. You can have the Bunta in your story be a Toyota test driver or a JAXA astronaut or an ex-Konami employee who became persona-non-grata after quitting Konami but saved up tons of cash, and it'll all work. But what actually led to his connections in Initial D proper will never be known unless Shigeno answers the question himself. |
kyonpalm | Posted: Jan 5 2018, 09:11 AM |
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kafz | Posted: Jan 5 2018, 11:06 PM | ||
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Tbh this is what I expected the OP to propose | ||
Racer4WD | Posted: Jan 13 2018, 02:24 PM |
IDW Member Group: Members Posts: 22 Member No.: 49,436 Joined: Jan 13th 2018 Location: Update Profile | Well,Bunta is friend with Keiichi Tsuchiya,so i can expect Keiichi maybe helped Bunta with car info and money to upgrade his AE86 to a more PRO-SPEC car since it has: -Watanabe Black Eight Spoke Wheels -Cibie Rally Fog Lights -Forced Induction to 150HP -TRD Modifiable Suspension for more Oversteer -TRD's SPORT SEATS Also it is a common fact that Tsuchiya changed his AE86 Touge car engine,which was the 240HP 4AGE-FA to the 175HP 7A with the 4AGE 20V top due to the 4AGE-FA reliability This post has been edited by Racer4WD on Jan 13 2018, 02:38 PM |
Meteor | Posted: Jan 14 2018, 09:53 AM | ||
Were you expecting something else? Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,921 Member No.: 20,929 Joined: Oct 14th 2006 Location: Some place in South-East Asia |
Forced induction means turbocharger or supercharger. The 86 has neither of those. | ||
Nomake Wan | Posted: Jan 14 2018, 03:08 PM | ||
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Ignoring the plainly incorrect statements Meteor already touched on, got any sources for your "common facts?" [ Post made via Mobile Device ] | ||
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xiao | Posted: Jan 14 2018, 03:51 PM |
moon bunny Group: XIAO Posts: 5,735 Member No.: 13,323 Joined: Oct 4th 2005 Location: Update Profile | Judging by his bad punctuation & grammar .. I'm guessing he's probably referring to a car he saw Tsuchiya driving in some random YouTube video ~ 🤔 Yep ~ nothing to do with Bunta except that phone call in 1st Stage .. #fanfic |
cob44 | Posted: Jan 14 2018, 04:13 PM |
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Spaz | Posted: Jan 14 2018, 09:43 PM | ||||
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I'm going to bite on this too... I'm going to go ahead and say that you've got that turned around, boss. Tsuchiya, when stating a curiosity in Takumi's drifting, tells Bunta that he was scarred by his drifting in years past. While this isn't always true, generally the better driver will have the better setup car, as learning the two tend to go hand-in-hand. We see Bunta doing his own suspension tuning in Second Stage to handle the new engine, so I have doubts that he needs much help from outside sources.
Plenty of ways, but typically that kind of stuff hits the market through auctions. Shops or race teams will close or go out of business every so often, and they'll either sell assets to stay in the black, or have them auctioned off under bankruptcy, etc. The Skip Barber school recently went under and everything was sold at auction, including their open wheel stuff. | ||||
Racer4WD | Posted: Jan 15 2018, 04:14 AM | ||
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YES,i have the source,here's it is: carthrottle.com/post/weoyvpx/ | ||
Perry | Posted: Jan 15 2018, 11:14 AM |
Like an eagle! Group: SITE OWNER Posts: 8,014 Member No.: 1 Joined: Sep 15th 2002 Location: San Leandro, California | I think you are confusing reality with fiction here. Just because Tsuchiya-san might have the same setup in his 86 in real life doesn't mean he helped Bunta in Initial D. At no point in the story did it ever hinted that Bunta received help from Tsuchiya-san. |
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xiao | Posted: Jan 15 2018, 11:44 AM | ||
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★ Just because something is on the internet .. real it does not make ~ little padawan | ||
Nomake Wan | Posted: Jan 15 2018, 12:39 PM |
ShiMACHaze Group: Advanced Members Posts: 19,542 Member No.: 5,394 Joined: Feb 5th 2005 Location: Drydock | Not to mention the poor grasp of the English language makes me think that this 'source' is in fact self-referential. [ Post made via Mobile Device ] |
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Perry | Posted: Jan 15 2018, 02:23 PM |
Like an eagle! Group: SITE OWNER Posts: 8,014 Member No.: 1 Joined: Sep 15th 2002 Location: San Leandro, California | I just realized that @Racer4WD doesn't seem to know that Tsuchiya-san is the technical consultant for Initial D. It's not a surprise that the 86 in the anime will have settings somewhat close to Tsuchiya-san's 86. It makes it easier to try out some of the techniques if the 86 in Initial D is based on a real life 86. That's where reality bridges into fiction. Bunta is a fictional character, the purpose of having a real life person, Tsuchiya's cameo phone call, was to acknowledge Bunta's legendary status. It doesn't say anything about Tsuchiya helping Bunta getting those parts. Could the Tsuchiya-san in the story helped Bunta in getting those parts? Absolutely. But did the story says so? No. The author, Shigeno Shuichi, is God when it comes to Initial D. His words are the truth and the only truth. He did not say anything about Tsuchiya-san helping Bunta and you have to accept that. |
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Spaz | Posted: Jan 15 2018, 08:14 PM |
Just a guy towing a car across the country to chase a dream. Group: FORUM MODERATOR Posts: 9,272 Member No.: 30,193 Joined: Jul 25th 2008 Location: Plymouth, MN | That source reads like cancer. Next. |
Racer4WD | Posted: Jan 16 2018, 04:54 AM | ||
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I know Tsuchiya-san is the technical consultant for Initial D,but is not possible to theorize how Bunta got the engine,how he have money to upgrade the car even if he wastes a lot on beer and cigar,how much money Takumi had on the secret account Bunta made when he started to deliver tofu,including other things | ||
Nomake Wan | Posted: Jan 16 2018, 06:42 AM | ||
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The problem is that you tried to claim that your 'fan theory' is a 'common fact'. Sorry kiddo, but those two things are mutually exclusive until hard evidence surfaces to prove otherwise. | ||
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Racer4WD | Posted: Jan 16 2018, 08:47 AM |
IDW Member Group: Members Posts: 22 Member No.: 49,436 Joined: Jan 13th 2018 Location: Update Profile | OK,sorry if i got everything wrong .But again,why everyone wants to theorize who Bunta was if there's no actual info about him only with the fact that he was and still is the best racer on Akina and he became a tofu shop owner.People create theories inside theories just to fix their previous theories,and thats what causes people to either accept that the theory is true,or that is false.Or if you are a number 1 fan,you will always creates fan-fics,fan-theories or you maybe will start to think that joining the Fanbase was a bad idea This post has been edited by Racer4WD on Jan 16 2018, 09:16 AM |
Nomake Wan | Posted: Jan 16 2018, 10:39 AM |
ShiMACHaze Group: Advanced Members Posts: 19,542 Member No.: 5,394 Joined: Feb 5th 2005 Location: Drydock | Theories are accepted as true when evidence surfaces to support them as such. Pretty simple. [ Post made via Mobile Device ] |
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fujito10 | Posted: Jan 16 2018, 06:32 PM |
IDW Expert Member Group: Members Posts: 101 Member No.: 47,812 Joined: Dec 27th 2016 Location: Update Profile | Hey, you know something? That sounds like a really interesting fanfic! |
eatsuki | Posted: Jun 6 2018, 02:13 PM |
IDW Expert Member Group: Members Posts: 134 Member No.: 38,650 Joined: May 24th 2012 Location: Update Profile | In the story, if Tsuchiya is friends with Bunta, I'm sure he has seen Bunta's true driving skills before. That means they ran into each other on the mountain pass. Maybe a chance meeting that bloomed into friendship. If they met on the touge, I'm SURE Bunta would have been tempted to turn it into a full blown race against a top opponent of Tsuchiya's caliber. Or at least a semi-serious race like when Ryosuke drove at 80% ability vs Nakazato. If Shigeno revisits Initial D, with a prequel or something, it would be cool if they had a race between Tsuchiya and Bunta. Shigeno could just end the race prematurely because of oncoming traffic, or just have that 80% ability race for fun, with the result being a tie. |