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> Fastest Driver, A poll for the fun.
 
Who is the fastest driver?
Takumi Fujiwara [ 1 ]  [2.13%]
Keisuke Takahashi [ 3 ]  [6.38%]
Ryosuke Takahashi [ 1 ]  [2.13%]
Bunta Fujiwara [ 35 ]  [74.47%]
Shinji Inui [ 0 ]  [0.00%]
God Hand [ 1 ]  [2.13%]
God Foot [ 1 ]  [2.13%]
Initial D: Arcade Stage's protagonist (Customizable Player Character) [ 5 ]  [10.64%]
Total Votes: 47
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By far, many will want to vote on one of these names, as many happens to like this show (As i do as well), so, without much else to say... who do you think is the fastest driver in the series?.

(The protagonist from Arcade Stage is also included, as it's demonstrated on the autopilot (Seen in a gackt video featuring Arcade Stage 7 AAX briefly) that happens to be ALOT smoother than Takumi (Yes, he is racing against the player character in this video: youtube.com/watch?v=LnjulO9hObg), that's why i included the androgynous protagonist.).

I'll get the ball rolling, mine goes for Arcade Stage's protagonist because he/she managed to beat Project D.

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We've done this long ago lol... but the idea of IDAS protagonist? Nah he/she is a variable. When EXP@SP is playing as the protagonist he is better than everyone. If I am playing, I dunno man, I wasn't able to beat even Itetani yet.

The definite answer, as always, shall be Bunta. This is pointless. We've yet to see his full strength yet. When he battles Takumi, who was struggling against the strongest street racers in Kanto, he was sort of in this "one hand steer" casual mode, one hand on the steering wheel, the other hand holding a cig, drifting and using gutters, all done with eyes closed. But if the car's peformances comes to place, Ryosuke (my beloved aniki!~). After upgrading his FC, he can easily go over 200KM/H on Toyo Tyres Turnpike in Hakone against Hojo Rin. His FC is easily able to run the C1 Loop on shutokou.

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Makes me wonder who would win if between Ryosuke and Bunta. The FC had been quite heavily upgraded, while Bunta's Impreza isn't. Altough its got the 4WD

And also i want to see how would Bunta do when he go 100%...

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QUOTE (MonkeyWrenchd @ 8 minutes, 43 seconds ago)
Makes me wonder who would win if between Ryosuke and Bunta. The FC had been quite heavily upgraded, while Bunta's Impreza isn't. Altough its got the 4WD

And also i want to see how would Bunta do when he go 100%...

Set the stage on wangan? Ryosuke wins. Any touge with average speed of 130KM/H and below is bunta't territory. That includes Akina, Akigi and others. On Myogi Ryosuke might just stand a chance if bunta decides to not drive seriously. But I am not sure about the Impreza being lightly tuned, what if it is a monster EJ Twin Turbo boosting up to 700BHP under that completely stock intake vents? awesome.gif

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QUOTE (dummyinthecity @ 13 minutes, 50 seconds ago)
Set the stage on wangan? Ryosuke wins. Any touge with average speed of 130KM/H and below is bunta't territory. That includes Akina, Akigi and others. On Myogi Ryosuke might just stand a chance if bunta decides to not drive seriously. But I am not sure about the Impreza being lightly tuned, what if it is a monster EJ Twin Turbo boosting up to 700BHP under that completely stock intake vents? awesome.gif

Akina's hill have more slope at the end so Bunta might have a chance.

700hp EJ owned by a tofu vendor ?....

Then again Bunta got the Group A AE101 TRD Engine so..

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QUOTE (MonkeyWrenchd @ 9 minutes, 53 seconds ago)
Akina's hill have more slope at the end so Bunta might have a chance.

700hp EJ owned by a tofu vendor ?....

Then again Bunta got the Group A AE101 TRD Engine so..

Indeed, he appears to have some, you know, "connections". Didn't Keiichi Tsuchiya called Bunta once in the anime, and he said he was traumatized by Bunta's drift. You know... Keiichi could've easily used his status as DoriKing to get a nice TRD high-revving silvertop.
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Ryosuke would get destroyed by Bunta, period. The gap in skill is too large for Ryosuke to overcome.

Look at this as an example. Ryosuke almost got it handed to him in the original FC by Kyoichi, on his home course. He could only exploit a glaring weakness to win. In the revamped FC, he defeated Shinigami, but only after a rather tense battle. It was never something that he could just breeze through.

Meanwhile Bunta, any time he is actually "racing" another car, manager to glide right past the opponent with little to no effort. Ryosuke is not at that level, and considering his studies and real world shit, possibly never will. It's not his path in life.

You'd be better off comparing Takumi to Bunta since the ending to Final Stage showed him continuing a career (I guess) in professional racing. He has a much, much better chance at giving his old man a good race in the future, although I doubt that he would ever beat him. Bunta is not an opponent that is designed to be defeated. He is the carrot on a stick for characters to chase in order to improve and/or to learn a lesson of some sort. Like many shonen series', the creator makes a "god character" that he/she only brings out on occasion to demonstrate that the protagonist or some other high level character is not as great as they think they are.

Think of Bunta like Hiko Seijuro from Rurouni Kenshin. The author explicitly stated that Hiko, as Kenshin's teacher and mentor, is too powerful to use regularly in the series, so he is treated as a wild card that is only used when absolutely necessary. Nobody in the series could ever conceivably defeat him, or even make him flinch.

ADDX: Also, having "the IDAS protagonist" as an option is equally fruitless. It's only serving as selfish wish fulfillment.

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By the series, the answer is clearly Bunta.

But I'd be curious how fast Sudo ACTUALLY is, considering we never see him go 10/10ths in the series.
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He's probably quite fast, if he'd just apply himself. His hesitation and lack of willingness to take risks are his downfall.
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I'd say Kyouichi's 10/10ths would probably amount to late-Project D Keisuke's 8/10ths, maybe briefly getting up to 9/10ths if he gets a little lucky. Not the fastest out there, but still pretty fast - could give Kobayakawa and Minagawa some trouble.

But of course, giving people like them trouble assumes he doesn't end up below 9/10ths at the wrong moment. His driving isn't quite as polished as Takumi's or Keisuke's, so holding back would be worse for him than it'd be for them. All that can really be ruled out is him overdoing 10/10ths and pulling a Nakazato - he's smart enough not to push the car harder than he can maintain control over it.
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His inability to push the limit is what keeps him on the B-list.
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At one point during Project D, Ryosuke mentions that both Takumi and Keisuke have both surpassed him in terms of racing ability if comparing him at his prime with them as they are now. This means that these two could beat Ryosuke without much issue. One of them DID beat Ryosuke, if you remember. Possibly twice, if we're counting the race at the end of third stage as an official race.

Bunta overtook Takumi like it was a joke.

I think that was enough to convince me who was better among the two concerning Bunta and Ryosuke.

And I agree about Kyoichi: he SEEMS capable enough, but he's got a ways to go.

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What if we put them on the aqualine instead of a touge?
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QUOTE (dummyinthecity @ 5 minutes, 28 seconds ago)
What if we put them on the aqualine instead of a touge?

This is Initial D, not Wanking Midnight. I hate when people bring up the possibility of Initial D characters racing on the highway, but let's entertain the idea.

Bunta would still win. Backwards. Sitting on the rear wing smoking ten cigarettes with his butthole. Without the engine running. It doesn't matter who you pit him against and/or what car they're driving. His archetype is specifically designed to win regardless of the odds. He gets infinite boost simply by existing.
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You know ? This conversation got me wondering if Keisuke or Takumi battles againts Shinigami. Could they escape his attacks ? Ryosuke managed to escape those attacks like it was nothing made me wonder sometimes if Takumi and Keisuke surpassed him by far or not.

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This is a hats off scenario for Bunta, he already knows everything the other characters might have just discovered about racing the mountain passes. God hand and God foot won't stand a chance, because the purple shadow (especially downhill was defeated by a handful of luck.) And I haven't seen Bunta lose even by just Takumi pulling his charms on lady luck. facepalm.gif
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But Takumi claimed that God Hand has the same aura as Bunta in the Impreza. The manipulating lines that God Hand uses is pretty impressive too.

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God hand's manipulating lines is (in my opinion) not the result of tire preservation just like as he had pointed, it is the result of the opposite (tire wear). He adjusts his lines according to tire wear, the more worn out the tires, the better line he chooses.

This trick he needs to pull off just to try and beat Takumi and failed to do so because Takumi is one lucky son of a b****, but Bunta on the otherhand, do not need such a thing to defeat Takumi on Takumi's home course, he just needs to be the Legendary Racer he always was. Still Bunta. facepalm.gif

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QUOTE (MonkeyWrenchd @ 7 hours, 16 minutes ago)
But Takumi claimed that God Hand has the same aura as Bunta in the Impreza. The manipulating lines that God Hand uses is pretty impressive too.

The same feeling of being completely overwhelmed would count as that "aura". However, Bunta would not be fooled by Godhand's little psych-out trick and would have no issue ripping right by him.
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Bunta would probably win with anything with 4 wheels.

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There's only one person capable of taking down Bunta - the legendary 5-year old of the downhi-/SHOTSOBAD
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Bunta aside, who is the fastest? Is Takumi really the cream of the crop, or is Godhand actually the true champion?
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QUOTE (Tessou @ 2 minutes, 53 seconds ago)
Bunta aside, who is the fastest? Is Takumi really the cream of the crop, or is Godhand actually the true champion?

If Takumi uses the impreza, he's maybe second fastest after Bunta.

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He's never been shown to really effectively use the Impreza, though. Trials on Akina, maybe, but never actual "race mode".
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