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| Posted by: Perry Mar 10 2007, 12:23 PM |
| This thread is for trivial questions that don't warrant their own threads. If you have trivial questions regarding Initial D's plot, characters, settings .. etc., ask them here. (i.e. - Why does Takumi always blush around Ryousuke ?) Remember, this thread is only for legitimate questions. Asking joke question or trolling will result in an actual warning. Also remember, this thread is still under the section guidelines, so if you have a question about Initial D music, ask it in the music section; and the same goes for Arcade Stage questions. With that getting out of the way, you may also ask complex questions if you believe it doesn't warrant its own thread. It is totally up to your discretion.  In the event that this thread gets very long, and you believe the question had been asked before, by all means use the Search Thread function, it'll save you so much time. Special thanks to https://idforums.net/index.php?showuser=2006 for https://idforums.net/index.php?showtopic=28036. |
| Posted by: iluvryosuke Mar 11 2007, 12:22 AM |
| I don't know if this has already been asked before but does anyone know, or has there been any mention of, the name of Keisuke's mechaninc in Project D? I'm referring to the one wearing glasses, not Shuuichi Matsumoto, Takumi's mechanic. Thanks! |
| Posted by: haspieuw Mar 12 2007, 11:55 AM | ||
i dont remember if he is mentioned anywhere .  |
| Posted by: chuunarusamurai Apr 3 2007, 06:42 AM |
| In the whole series was there an eclipse in the series or they only had the evo? |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 3 2007, 06:43 AM |
| Merging into "Questions and Answers" pinned thread. Answer: No one races an Eclipse. |
| Posted by: Chidoki Apr 3 2007, 10:39 AM |
| Eclipse isn't really common in Japan for racing. But when you think about Mitsubishi, which AWD car would you rather have for a touge style racing, an Eclipse or an Evo. The answer to that is quite obvious since the Evo is already superior in every category for touge = no reason to put an Eclipse for touge. |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 3 2007, 12:32 PM |
| Wasn't the Eclipse made for the American market only? If so, why would it even be in Initial D if only for the fact it's Japanese? |
| Posted by: Kurei Apr 3 2007, 03:06 PM |
| If i remember correctly, Ryosuke referred to someone as a minimalist or something along that line Was it Sudoh or someone else ?, Godfoot ?, idk, all i know is this has been on my mind for a few days... |
| Posted by: Chidoki Apr 3 2007, 03:17 PM | ||
Pretty much yes on that too. |
| Posted by: power of rotary Apr 7 2007, 07:39 PM |
| i just wanted to ask what is a misfiring system all i know is that sudo kyoichi's evo 3 has it |
| Posted by: Meteor Apr 7 2007, 09:03 PM |
| It's just a system that prevents turbo lag. |
| Posted by: Rookie_One Apr 8 2007, 12:11 AM |
| straight from wiki : Anti-Lag System, ALS, and sometimes also called a Misfiring System or "Bang-Bang", is a system used on mainly turbocharged racing and rally engines to eliminate turbo lag. It was used in the early days of turbo charging in F1 until fuel restrictions made its use unsuitable. Later it became a common feature in rally cars due to the mandated restrictors on the turbocharger inlet. Because of the pressure drop across the restriction, the pressure ratio for a given boost level is much higher and the turbocharger must spin a lot faster to produce the same boost as before. This increases turbo lag significantly compared to unrestricted turbochargers. An ALS system requires an air bypass, and generally this is done in one of two ways. The first method is to use a throttle air bypass; this may be an external bypass valve or a solenoid valve which open up the throttle 12-20 degrees. This allows air to bypass the closed throttle and to reach the engine. The second method is to use a bypass valve which feed charge air directly to the exhaust manifold. The throttle bypass/throttle solenoid system is combined with ignition retardation and slight fuel enrichment (mainly to provide cooling), typically ignition occur at 35-45° ATDC. This late ignition causes very little expansion of the gas in the cylinder; hence the pressure and temperature will still be very high when the exhaust valve opens. At the same time, the amount of torque delivered to the crankshaft will be very small (just enough to keep the engine running). The higher exhaust pressure and temperature combined with the increased mass flow is enough to keep the turbocharger spinning at high speed thus reducing lag. When the throttle is opened up again the ignition and fuel injection goes back to normal operation. Since many engine components are exposed to very high temperatures during ALS operation and also high pressure pulses, this kind of system is very hard on the engine and turbocharger. For the latter not only the high temperatures are a problem but also the uncontrolled turbo speeds which fast can destroy a turbocharger. In most applications the ALS is automatically shut down when the coolant reaches a temperature of 110-115°C, this to prevent overheating the engine. An ALS system working with a bypass valve which feeds air directly to the exhaust system can be made more refined than the system described above. Some early systems used by Ferrari in F1 followed this approach, so does the anti-lag systems used in WRC today, which are even more refined with advanced computer control. Today this kind of system has reached such a refinement that it’s even possible to use the system in a road car, which was tested by for example Prodrive with their P2 prototype. The system works by bypassing charge air directly to the exhaust manifold which will act as a combustor when fuel rich exhaust from the engine meets up with the fresh air from the bypass. This will provide a continuous combustion limited to the exhaust manifold which significantly reduces the heat and pressure loads on the engine and turbocharger. With the latest anti-lag systems the bypass valve can not only be opened or closed but it can actually control the flow of air to the exhaust manifold very accurately. The turbocharger is fitted with a turbo speed sensor and the engine management system has a map based on throttle position and car speed which is used to find a suitable turbocharger speed and boost pressure for every condition. When the engine alone can’t provide enough exhaust energy to reach the turbo speed/boost demanded by the management system, the combustion in the exhaust manifold combustor kicks in. This does not only remove turbo lag, but it also allow boost to be produced at very low engine speed earlier limited by compressor surge or exhaust energy. With a high boost at low speeds, this makes the low end torque superior even to large naturally aspirated engines. The system also operates very quietly. |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Apr 8 2007, 01:54 AM | ||
I told to my japanese friend maybe the name of the project D mechanic (keisuke personal mechanic) and the name of saitama evo guy is mentioned in artbook or in the latest book (all about battles). |
| Posted by: power of rotary Apr 8 2007, 05:31 AM |
thx rookie_one for the info now i get what it means  |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Apr 8 2007, 06:28 AM | ||
The name of each driver is as follows. EVOⅥ : ICHIJO EVOⅤ : AIKAWA FD mechanic : MIYAGUCHI (notes) Their name has not come out in the original of INITIAL D. However, when animation is created, the official title assigned to the voice actors are these names. answer of japanese initial d fan.  |
| Posted by: bigIDfan Apr 11 2007, 07:41 AM |
| sorry if this question has already been asked, but i was wondering if there is anywere i can get an english dubbed version of the 3rd, 4th and battle stage stages as i have the first and second and find it easier to concentrate on the race scenes if i dont have to read the subtitles . thanks |
| Posted by: r34racer01 Apr 11 2007, 07:51 AM |
| No, not yet at least. Tokyo Pop has yet to dub battle or fourth. Third was dub years ago but they have yet to release it. |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 11 2007, 07:52 AM |
| I swear this has been asked before. TokyoPop has only releases First, Second and Extra Stage. They have made no announcement as to the release of Third Stage (which they supposedly have the license to) and have not made any announcements regarding acquiring Battle or Fourth Stage. (Merged with Q&A thread) |
| Posted by: sabishii Apr 11 2007, 09:10 AM |
| So why does Takumi always blush around Ryousuke? |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 11 2007, 03:31 PM |
| He feels uncomfortable being in the presence of someone as amazing as Ryosuke. Kinda like how you might feel if you suddenly found yourself before Sean Connery or Robin Williams. |
| Posted by: twitchykun Apr 11 2007, 06:26 PM |
| What are the current horsepower figures of Keisuke's FD3S? Current, meaning after he gets all them aero parts and stuff. |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 11 2007, 06:37 PM |
| No one really knows, as it's not explicitly mentioned, however I believe prior to the upgrades it was in the 300 hp range, however it must have gone up since Keisuke mentions when he drives the upgraded one that it feels more powerful and faster than before. :wowzers: |
| Posted by: eastcoastdrifter Apr 12 2007, 06:25 AM |
| curious what I was wondering why isnt takumi's mother ever mentioned in the anime? does anyone know what happened? |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 12 2007, 09:56 AM |
| No, she is never mentioned. We can only speculate at what became of her. |
| Posted by: Nissan_drifter Apr 12 2007, 04:11 PM |
| I just wanted to clear up something... Where there any RX-8's in Initial D? |
| Posted by: Chidoki Apr 12 2007, 04:59 PM |
| Nope (or not yet but big chance it won't)...only in the Arcade though that they have them as optional cars. |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 12 2007, 05:03 PM | ||
I'd say the opposite, considering the cars that have lately appeared in the manga... >< |
| Posted by: mark4000 Apr 12 2007, 06:03 PM |
| Just wanted to clear something up. During the Saitama expedition, did Ryosuke purposely let Nobuhiko follow Takumi from behind so that he'll be able to analyze the 86 and formulate a plan to defeat it during the saitama rematch? |
| Posted by: Chidoki Apr 12 2007, 06:10 PM | ||
Yes, simply because Ryosuke wanted to see how far Takumi can go as well so having mediocre rematches is a no No. With what Nobuhiko has gathered with his analyzing means Takumi will have a far greater challenge in the rematch which is what Ryosuke wants. |
| Posted by: RacerPaul Apr 12 2007, 08:55 PM | ||
Then again Nobuhiko did out smart Ryosuke in a way because he never expected a Cappuccino as Takumi's opponent. He said it himself if it wasn't for the miraculous rain Takumi would have lost. |
| Posted by: power of rotary Apr 14 2007, 08:53 AM |
| i wanted to ask what is the background song played in 2nd stage 5th episode when the evo3 vs 86 starts at the begining |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Apr 14 2007, 09:11 AM | ||
The song played when evo3 and hachi roku start the battle is Speedy speed boy - Daves Rodgers |
| Posted by: 207 Apr 15 2007, 07:14 PM |
| i was watching stage 3 just a few minutes ago and i noticed something. did ryosuke put a gps tracker on the trueno??? he's looking at his laptop and the dot is showing where the car is, could it just be a simulation? |
| Posted by: Tessou Apr 15 2007, 07:35 PM |
| It's Ryosuke's simulation based on the crazy amount of data he has on both cars (although how he knows anything about the SW20 is beyond me). |
| Posted by: StRikEOnDriFteR Apr 15 2007, 07:44 PM |
| How exactly was Takumi able to get over that deep gutter in 4th stage in the miata race? I know it had to do with wieght transfer or something. |
| Posted by: 207 Apr 15 2007, 08:01 PM | ||
he transfered most of the weight onto the outside tires. this made the inner tires support less weight allowing it to bridge that gap to run on the ground/grass and pass the guy. he had to be going fast to transfer the weight in this fashion, i beleive its related to G forces in a sense |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 15 2007, 11:59 PM |
| Not really going fast, but putting out a lot of torque. The point was to floor the accelerator while turning in, so that you almost lift the right-inner wheel off of the ground. It raises just enough to get it across the gutter. |
| Posted by: ?wha? Apr 16 2007, 02:35 AM | ||
good point. I highly doubt its simulation, cause he was surprised that kai jumped a lil too early... maybe there is a tracker on his car  |
| Posted by: kazahana Apr 16 2007, 02:54 AM |
| Now that there's this. I wanna know. What made the remodeled RE Amemiya bodykit FD turn easily at the 5th gear? |
| Posted by: mark4000 Apr 16 2007, 04:10 AM | ||
you also have to take note that this kind of theory is probably only possible for only a second or 2 especially during the situation takumi was in. The anime just loves making the corners longer than they really are so the Gutter Runs, Gutter Lift, and most of the tricks shown in the anime take quite long to do before they're over. |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 16 2007, 05:28 AM | ||
That car has a ton of power, and the best rubber money can buy. Even at top gear the car would be able to corner just fine. After all, Tsukuba is pretty wide and has wide corners. It's not like Akina and Irohazaka with a bunch of really sharp hairpins. Though I'd have to watch Fourth Stage again to see if Keisuke actually made it up to fifth gear... |
| Posted by: kazahana Apr 16 2007, 05:39 AM |
But didn't ryousuke said something about the FD turns easier only when it reaches 5th gear??  |
| Posted by: twitchykun Apr 16 2007, 05:45 AM |
| Is Kenta's S14 still in the shop? |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 16 2007, 05:46 AM | ||||
I don't recall anyone saying such a thing. Got an episode number for that?
We must assume so as I've heard nothing about it being back later in the manga. Funny how Iketani can wreck his S13 in First Stage and get it back in about a week, but Kenta wrecks his S14 and we haven't seen it for over a month.  |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Apr 16 2007, 08:02 AM | ||
FD keisuke power is like 300 HP. With 5th gear the FD should be over 200 km/h. I don't think that in mountain pass it's possible to turn at this speed. So i think in corners for 86 and FD the gear are between gear 1 and gear 4. Gear 5 reserved for straighlines. |
| Posted by: HashiriyaR32 Apr 16 2007, 08:42 AM |
| Why do the tires look like Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R's? IIRC, they weren't out until 2005. |
| Posted by: power of rotary Apr 16 2007, 09:15 AM | ||
you can only speculate that there is a tracker on the tureno maybe ryousuke did plant one in or else how would he have known that the mr2(kai) jumped early and how far they got up in the race, ryousuke could even know which hairpin they got up to |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Apr 16 2007, 09:30 AM |
| i think it's a simulation and local drivers said in the radio the number of the hairpin or the name of the corner where Kai kogashiwa made his first jump. So seeing in his computer the road he could say how many hairpins remaining. |
| Posted by: 207 Apr 16 2007, 01:09 PM | ||||
lol, how did kenta damage his s14. who else damged their cars' |
| Posted by: HashiriyaR32 Apr 16 2007, 01:52 PM |
| Kenta tried to perform a blind attack, and failed. |
| Posted by: 207 Apr 16 2007, 01:56 PM | ||
lol, only takumi could try this, why did kenta attempt this blind atk? |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 16 2007, 02:02 PM | ||
Because he was jealous of the attention Takumi got by being able to pull off such a maneuver. "Anything you can do..." syndrome. |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 16 2007, 02:31 PM | ||
Well you have to remember that Initial D has no semblance of a real timeline, so don't be surprised to see a 2008 WRX in the manga... >< |
| Posted by: Tessou Apr 16 2007, 03:07 PM | ||
Um... you might think that in all of Ryosuke's racing experience he's been to Irohazaka at least once. Ryosuke has shit tons of strategies and theories in that head of his, and something like a jump wouldn't be too out of the question to come to his mind if he already knew about the shortened guardrails. |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 16 2007, 03:39 PM | ||
He must have been there, I don't think the previous race between Kyoichi and Ryosuke was at Akagi (the first race they had). |
| Posted by: kazahana Apr 16 2007, 04:27 PM |
| that's weird. When did kenta bang his Q's? |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 16 2007, 04:32 PM | ||
I believe it was Volume 22, shortly after the races completed with the Toudou School. |
| Posted by: kazahana Apr 16 2007, 04:42 PM |
| Is it anywhere in the anime? I dont remember it happening in it. But i kinda recall him driving a red s15  |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 16 2007, 04:50 PM | ||
No. He drives an orange S14. We didn't see the blind attack in the Anime, it was only in the manga. |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 16 2007, 04:55 PM | ||
Nope, he has a red/orange S14Q's, you might be thinking of that silver S15 that Takumi races within the same timeframe. I believe Kenta damages his car around episode 9-10 maybe? Sorry N1, but it's not shown in the manga either... It's just mentioned off-hand that he did it. |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 16 2007, 04:57 PM | ||
That's what I meant. We hear nothing about it in the Anime, but the manga references it. |
| Posted by: kazahana Apr 16 2007, 04:58 PM |
| Yeah he drievs an orange s14Q, no doubt. In stage 4 i think i saw a red s15 parked near project d's van in tsuchisaka before the race against the RE evo arseholes |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 16 2007, 04:59 PM | ||
I'd have to re-watch the episodes to be sure, it definitely is mentioned in the manga though. |
| Posted by: char Apr 16 2007, 05:34 PM | ||
Does it not say at one point when Keisuki and the guy who starts the races go to film the next location ( i think that was the race againt Kioki ) the starter guy tells KT that it was good of him to do that because Kenta who usually does that has tried driving without his lights on and damaged his car as a result of that |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 16 2007, 05:47 PM | ||
It seems that N1 is indeed right, at there is no mention at that point that Kenta messed up his car. |
| Posted by: Kerxn Apr 16 2007, 06:40 PM |
| In the manga he does, he messes up his S14. I remember that clearly. |
| Posted by: kazahana Apr 16 2007, 06:41 PM |
| Lol BTW what bumper was keisuke using before the RE Amemiya bodykit? |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 16 2007, 06:43 PM | ||
A Mazdaspeed bodykit I believe, this is post Second Stage, and appears in Third Stage and Fourth Stage up until he wrecks his FD. Apparently the new one is a Amemiya RE Super G street version, anyone care to confirm it? |
| Posted by: kazahana Apr 16 2007, 07:27 PM |
| Non because we only know its from an RE Amemiya bodykit and nothing else. That's me. Then how about the first stage? |
| Posted by: BOZZ Savage Apr 16 2007, 07:31 PM | ||
Does anyone know how much that body kit actually costs? Because by the looks of it I would think it to be rather on the expensive side.  |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 16 2007, 07:54 PM | ||
Not too sure, but for some of the parts, stuff like the wing, air duct, diffusers, carbon fiber skirts and hood comes out to around 4-5 grand USD. |
| Posted by: kazahana Apr 16 2007, 08:23 PM |
| Lol what is grand USD? @ bozz savage: you wanna rice your FD? |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 16 2007, 08:24 PM |
| It means $4000-$5000 US Dollars. |
| Posted by: kazahana Apr 16 2007, 09:00 PM |
| Arggg expensive!!! But then again, I doubt i'll find such 1337 stuff here in msia. Dont think they have RE Amemiya stuff here  |
| Posted by: Tessou Apr 16 2007, 09:01 PM |
| First kit was a Mazdaspeed A-Spec Type II bodykit, which is basically impossible to find nowadays. Second kit is from RE Amemiya, closest I could find was an "RE Amemiya µ Boost Up 7 SPL" off of a model kit. The actual name of the bodykit was not mentioned. |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 16 2007, 09:05 PM | ||
Apparently it's referred to as a REsuperG or something. |
| Posted by: mark4000 Apr 17 2007, 02:03 AM | ||
You say that Tsukuba is pretty wide and has wide corners. It also consist mostly of low and mid speed corners and has no real straightways. I'm just wondering...if tsukuba is actually wide...why does everyone say in the anime that it is impossible to pass someone on that course?? Also, how come it's called "F-Line" in the wiki article? Personally, I've always had the impression that it was a pretty tight course. that's why I got pretty confused when I saw the Tsukuba course on IDAS4. |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 17 2007, 02:36 AM | ||
1.) Perhaps you're confusing it with Shomaru...? It didn't look like there were any smaller-than-two-lane sections. Passing seems more than possible there. 2.) IT'S A WIKI. Do the math. |
| Posted by: mark4000 Apr 17 2007, 03:41 AM | ||||
umm...no. Keisuke and some other guy said it themselves that it was impossible to pass someone on that course... ...which is why I started wondering about that ever since I saw the course map on IDAS4. (the one on IDAS4 IS the actual course they raced on in the anime right?) BTW...when I did a closer inspection on the scene where the 86 and the S2000 were side-by-side on a corner, it looked as if the course width is probably similar to the width of the two-lane sections of akina. Maybe even abit more. Kinda weird since the one on IDAS4 looks a hell of alot wider than that.
oh.....right.....>_> |
| Posted by: kazahana Apr 17 2007, 03:55 AM | ||
Nice stuff are hard to find these days  FD's, S15's,  |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 17 2007, 05:54 AM | ||
If that was true then how is it that people got passed on the course? I am not entirely sure if the Initial D Arcade Stage is totally accurate, cause in most cases the maps are much shorter than the real life locations. |
| Posted by: mark4000 Apr 17 2007, 08:31 AM | ||
That's why I'm asking why on earth would they say something like that if the course is actually that wide. It just doesn't make sense to me. >_> |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 17 2007, 09:12 AM | ||
In what episode was it said and at what time? |
| Posted by: RacerPaul Apr 17 2007, 09:58 AM |
| Would everyone agree that Bunta would be the last opponent Takumi would battle or would want to battle near the end of Initial D? |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 17 2007, 01:28 PM | ||
Seconded. I never heard about an inability to pass. Takumi passes God Hand twice, God Hand passes Takumi twice... Keisuke and God Foot each swap places once... Watch the Anime. The sections on Tsukuba don't look narrow at all. I'd love to know where it's said that you "can't pass there." RacerPaul: Actually, probably not. The more I think about it, the more I think he'd be the second-to-last, with Keisuke being the last. Something like that. But that's all speculation at this point, as Shigeno hasn't really told us what's going to happen. |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 17 2007, 03:05 PM |
| N1, I actually think that order would be swapped. As pathetic as it may sound, having the final race be between Bunta and Takumi would be more epic, especially since it would be a race to test the pinnacles of what Bunta is training Takumi for and his Project D training. It's kind of like how they re-arranged the last race of First Stage to be the race against Ryosuke, to have the serious end of such an emotional note. |
| Posted by: twitchykun Apr 17 2007, 03:20 PM |
| Recipe for Bunta's Fried Tofu and/or ganmodoki? Come on, someone has to know how to prepare his fried tofu. |
| Posted by: Kurei Apr 17 2007, 04:24 PM | ||
How about stats on his Impreza ?  Also, your gonna need vol. 32 for my question In chp. 428, Some girl catch's Takumi at the Gas Station, and eventually slaps him, she also starts dating Takumi ?, and plays golf ? (or is that someone else ?) Who is that/are they if its 2 girls, i don't think its Mogi, or is it ? |
| Posted by: pnoytecknix Apr 17 2007, 04:52 PM |
| thats from when there were project d imposters. basically takumis imposter messed around with some girl - mika - and hurt her somehow. then mikas friend(?) found takumi at the gas station and slapped him in mikas defense. eventually mika found out that that doode was the imposter and apologized to takumi for her friend slapping him. also mika happens to be a star golf player or something and her and takumi start eyeing eachother.... i believe this is how it goes, i got this mainly from the info posted in the spoilers thread... take a look there... |
| Posted by: RacerPaul Apr 17 2007, 05:34 PM | ||
Why would you think that? If you think about it Bunta is Takumi's hardest opponent and it be fitting that before the manga ends, whenever that is, they would battle each other. I think that once Project D has reached its goal, which is to defeat every team in Japan I believe, that Takumi would be challenged by Keisuke and probably win. Afterwards challenge Bunta his hardest opponent on Mt. Akina. Since Bunta is official the fastest downhiller on Mt. Akina not Takumi. It would be a great end to Initial D and I think Bunta would win even after all the experience Takumi has acquired after Project D. |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 17 2007, 07:25 PM |
| I think that because of the way the Anime seems to point. They keep making Bunta fade into the background, relatively, and keep making the Keisuke rivalry come into the light. It just seems to me that, while yes, Bunta is a god who Takumi must overcome... beating Keisuke would be a bit more important. But hey, that's me. Just speculation. |
| Posted by: RacerPaul Apr 17 2007, 07:40 PM |
| Does anyone here think that Takumi or Keisuke will ever lose? Didn't Ryosuke say that Project D was to defeat every team in Japan meaning if they lose Project D would over and so would Initial D? So I'm assuming that Shuuichi Shigeno is going to have Takumi and Keisuke win all their races. I hope this doesn't happen because it is getting less interesting especially seeing Takumi always winning or teasing us when Takumi clearly lost in a few battles, but something miraculous happens and wins. I was pissed when God Arm lost especially the way he lost or how Tomo lost. |
| Posted by: Tessou Apr 17 2007, 08:04 PM |
| God I hope something good actually happens between Takumi and Mika. She's one heck of a looker, and she's actually smart in comparison to the whor- Natsuki. |
| Posted by: mark4000 Apr 18 2007, 02:22 AM | ||
EP21 (Although this one is probably talking about either that certain section or the course entirely)  EP22 (I made this one a sequence to avoid any misunderstanding)   Ok....maybe they're not saying that it's "totally impossible to pass" but you get the idea. Anyways, just to repeat my question about this again: Why would they say such things even though they are fully aware that it's that wide of a course? |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 18 2007, 05:25 AM |
| Ahh, now I see what they mean. That's a little easier to explain, then. First off, I provide this evidence:  What they mean is, both vehicles are not only wide, but are heavy. On the hill climb, you have to get going significantly faster than your opponent to pass him. This is pretty easy to demonstrate--ever been on an uphill section of a highway and tried to pass a slower car ahead of you? Even at full throttle it takes some time before you have enough speed to pass by. Whereas if it were slightly downhill, you could easily zip on by. "You can't pass me here" simply refers to Keisuke's resolve. He's determined not to let his opponent pass him on the outside of a corner. Earlier, he comments that "all [he] has to do is not let him pass." This is an extension of that comment. As for the latter comment, I have to sadly admit that L-E got the translation slightly off. In Japanese, it's "Ikura Joushima-san demo sore wa muri desu yo! Konna chokusen no nai koona darake no koosu de... ooinuki nante..." Which translates to, "Even if it's Joushima-san [driving], that's impossible! On a course like this that's all corners without any straights... [to pass] while behind..." Now, note that they make no mention of the width of the course. They just mention that there aren't any straights. Why do I point this out? Because in case you haven't noticed, most of the n00bs in Initial D say that the only place to pass someone is on a straight. Which, as we all know, is not true. It's hard to pass when there are only corners, but certainly not impossible. Especially not for two of the best drivers in the series. And that is why. These are n00bs talking. They think you need a straightaway to pass. Tsukuba is wide, wide enough for the RX-7 and the R34 to go side-by-side without feeling pressured. It simply is filled with corners. |
| Posted by: RacerPaul Apr 18 2007, 07:22 AM |
| Does anyone feel that Shuuichi Shigeno has some type of bias against racers who drive grip and then overexaggerate drifting because it is well known that drifting isn't a great racing style and mainly just for show, but Takumi on the otherhand can somehow keep up with Nakazato's R32 and keep up with Kyoichi's Evo III using drifting. If you compare drifting to grip in the real world, grip is faster and efficient then drifting since you burn your tires out much quickly drifting since your purposely inducing oversteer. |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Apr 18 2007, 08:31 AM | ||
Drift is the best way to burn your tires. One lesson of project D is how keep grip by managing the throttle. So it's clear that drift it's the best way to use tires. The fact is that Takumi made lot drift when he could make his gutters technics. Without gutters and with tires used, he couldn't win easly. Grip is fastest than drift no doubt about this. |
| Posted by: RacerPaul Apr 18 2007, 10:51 AM | ||
If that is indeed the case then how is Takumi able to keep up with Kyoichi or even Nakazato for that matter? Both of them are driving grip yet Takumi is able to keep up with the much slower drift style and top that off with the fact that the Evo III and R32 are much faster then the 86 especially in horsepower. This is why I suggested that the author, Shuuichi Shigeno, over exaggerates drifting making it seem like it is just as fast as grip. This is apparent in the Nakazato and Kyoichi battles. I believe the Drift King himself said "I drift not because it is a quicker way around a corner, but it is the most exciting way." |
| Posted by: mark4000 Apr 18 2007, 10:32 PM | ||
The part about the uphill, I fully understand and totally agree with you. I'm not entirely sure about what you said about the downhill though. Just to clear a few things up first: Even though I try to counter it sometimes, I've already accepted the probability of Tsukuba being wide as true (only as a probability though). That's why I made this question in the first place. I DO agree that noobs in initial D always mention pretty stupid stuff like that and passing only on straights is one of them. But when I thought up of my question, I also kept in mind that that guy is from Purple Shadow that is on par with Todou School, which means that he is also expected to be semi-pro in skill. If even an amateur like me could easily easy that it's not really that hard to pass someone on a course that wide even though there aren't really any straights, it's pretty obvious that a semi-pro would think the same thing. That's why I felt like I'm missing something when he said that passing on that course is hard. If he really is just a noob and it's all just Noobtalk, then I can accept that. But if the situation is like the one i mentioned earlier (him not being just your typical noob), I think that maybe there's another reason why he said that it's difficult to pass there. Anyways, I nevertheless consider my question answered. Thanks for all the info, especially about the Uphill. |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 19 2007, 06:05 AM |
| Ah, sorry. I'll clear a few things up. I only made the mention of downhill to make a point. Say you're on the highway and you go over a hill. You get over the crest of the hill and the guy ahead of you in his Honda puts on his brakes, slowing down to 55 in a 65 zone. You're both going downhill. You mash the gas to pass him. The time it takes you to accelerate up to passing speed and get by is much less than if you had attempted to pass the guy while going up the hill. Right? You are also right about the Purple Shadow guys. God Foot and God Hand seem to think that they're all incredibly skilled. They have the looks and sounds of n00bs, but my guess is they could beat many of the Initial D regulars. So why would they say that you can't pass in the corners? Maybe because anyone in their right mind would take the inside line on each corner. If the inside line is blocked, the chances of the person behind getting up to passing speed from the outside are pretty slim. On the other hand, there are plenty of tricks (read: gutters and patches of land on inside of turns) in Tsukuba to allow the chaser to access a second inside line. Perhaps they didn't know about those maneuvers? |
| Posted by: 207 Apr 19 2007, 11:12 AM |
| i do beleive both god hand and foot are quite skilled. seems more like they only know 1 course so they are unaware of different approaches that are acquired when others race in various locations. i hav a fd question. i know that kyoko uses re amemiya rims. the fd type r b tune in id3 has bronze re amemiya, why did they make them bronze when theyre supposed to be silver? |
| Posted by: BOZZ Savage Apr 19 2007, 07:39 PM |
| Maybe it was just a mistake? |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 20 2007, 02:56 AM |
| I would say it's the same discrepancy that they have for the rims of the Sileighty. The manga, Anime and therefore games have differing opinions of how the rims look on a few cars. |
| Posted by: mark4000 Apr 20 2007, 05:16 AM | ||
That's seems like a good reason. Afterall, they may be highly skilled but they're probably also as orthodoxed as Todou School and also still not in the level of a professional like Tomo so the amount of their knowledge in attacking probabilities is probably not that high or varied yet. And you're probably right about them not being aware of the course specialties since I always see them freak out everytime someone uses the shortcuts or gutters. |
| Posted by: 207 Apr 20 2007, 07:15 PM |
| i just noticed another discrepancy in the anime, the supercharged levin vs FD it shows a turbo gauge when it isnt turbocharged, did they get lazy and reuse the scenes? |
| Posted by: Tessou Apr 20 2007, 07:25 PM |
| Um... because it's a boost gauge, and it can be used for either type of forced induction system. More Information |
| Posted by: 207 Apr 20 2007, 07:45 PM | ||
ah thats why, i dont know too much about that topic |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 20 2007, 08:33 PM |
| Also, that's a question that's been asked before, in the thread for that group of episodes as I recall. Or was it the "Anime Mistakes" thread? One of the two. Someone asked a loooong time ago. |
| Posted by: 207 Apr 21 2007, 06:51 PM |
| do any of you people notice Mogi talks alot in the 3rd person? it seems like it to me. she says natsuki alot but the subs say differently, wats up with that? |
| Posted by: pnoytecknix Apr 21 2007, 07:10 PM |
| ^i thought i was the only one... is that what shes really sayin? or am i just hearing wrong... |
| Posted by: mark4000 Apr 21 2007, 09:17 PM |
| yup. she definitely speaks about herself from the third person POV. I dunno why though....>_> |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 21 2007, 10:21 PM | ||
I think it's just her personality trait, and that's all there is to it. |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 21 2007, 10:31 PM |
| Yes. In the Japanese language, using one's own name is the same as saying "I" in English. There are many, many ways to say I, You, etc etc in Japanese. Using your own name is merely one of them, and is considered to be informal, even "cute" sometimes. |
| Posted by: mark4000 Apr 22 2007, 04:18 AM | ||
'Moe' trait, maybe?  |
| Posted by: 207 Apr 22 2007, 08:11 AM | ||
interesting, i never knew that. |
| Posted by: Rallyist Apr 22 2007, 09:45 PM |
| I have three question; 1-During first race between takumi and Keiuske why keiuske says;"İt's time attack". 2-During Bunta showed engine Tachibana,He says "Suzukiiiii motors!" This engine wasn't TRD development? 3-Why last episode Project d needs time trial run? |
| Posted by: Meteor Apr 23 2007, 01:24 AM |
| @Rallyist: 1. It's a time attack because the battle will be timed. 2. Can't help you there. 3. So that they could leave a record there. They do it on every course they've won on. Why? Remember what Ryousuke said in Ep.1 of 1st Stage? About the "Fastest in Kanto" project. That's why. |
| Posted by: mark4000 Apr 23 2007, 01:36 AM | ||
definitely a translation error. |
| Posted by: HashiriyaR32 Apr 23 2007, 04:24 AM |
| Bad subs make me cringe. |
| Posted by: Rallyist Apr 23 2007, 09:47 AM |
| I have a another question;during battle between Takumi and Keiuske Say; "My FD slow today,secondary turbine still working?" before this scene showing Fd's turbine.Any info released about this? |
| Posted by: Meteor Apr 23 2007, 10:01 AM | ||
On Mt.Akina, due to the many corners and relatively short straights, Keisuke wasn't able to use his turbo's power properly (remember, turbos aren't as responsive as N/As). Just when Keisuke would reach max boost on a straight, a corner would come up and force him to slow down (and in a turbo car, throttle lift-off=boost gone.), thus getting rid of the boost. As the FD would begin to build up boost on the next straight, the 86 would inch closer and closer. In short, turbo lag strikes. |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 23 2007, 10:41 AM | ||
Although mark4000 did say it's a translation error, I also think it's a typo, since the shop they are installing the engine in is Suzuki something (the mechanic's name is Masashi Suzuki). |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 23 2007, 11:49 AM |
| I can clear these up a little bit more... As BOZZ said, the guy who got his hands on the engine was Bunta's friend, Masashi Suzuki. His shop is named Suzuki Motors. The engine is TRD, and the name "Suzuki Motors" has nothing to do with the Suzuki auto company. The "secondary turbine" comment was hit right on the head by Meteor. Keisuke was very frustrated at his lack of power, and blamed it on his secondary turbo not spinning. |
| Posted by: mark4000 Apr 23 2007, 09:38 PM | ||
If that's the case, did they upgrade Keisuke's Turbo for the Project.D expeditions? |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 23 2007, 10:08 PM |
| I honestly don't know. Considering his twin-turbo overtakes Kyoko's single-turbo in a corner, I'd say his turbine response has been upgraded. Smaller secondary turbo, perhaps? Increased response, decreased HP. No clue what the new FD has under the hood though... |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Apr 23 2007, 10:37 PM | ||
I don't think that project D upgrade Keisuke's turbo. Lack of power didn't come frome his turbines but because at the begining he didn't manage well the acceleration foot controle. He said at the first battle in stage 4 to Sakai that his powered GT34 lose against his less powered FD. |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 23 2007, 10:46 PM | ||
Holy crap you're right... sorta. Disregard my previous comment guys, I was tired and not thinking about the most important part of the Kyoko vs Keisuke race... the footwork. That double-kick thing he does with the gas... I'm guessing that helps with it. But he wasn't talking about "upgrading" the turbochargers for power, fuji_tak. He was talking about upgrading for response, which would actually be a downgrade in power. Smaller turbos = better response. Bigger turbos = better power. |
| Posted by: mark4000 Apr 24 2007, 12:34 AM |
| umm...from what I know, I don't think that keisuke still had any knowledge of advanced acceleration techniques when he fought with Kyoko. He was just introduced to the concept at that time afterall. Anyways, apart from the accel skills ryosuke wanted to teach keisuke, the Kyoko Battle was also about the differences between Single and Twin Turbo. Keisuke supposedly took advantage of his non-laggy twin turbo to beat kyoko. That's why I'm wondering if Project D did some upgrades with his FD because you guys said that turbo lag gave keisuke a disadvantage when he first fought with Takumi in Akina. Also another question: What is it about the S2000 that makes it a difficult car to master? |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Apr 24 2007, 10:01 AM |
someone know who is that guy ? |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 24 2007, 10:44 AM | ||
Shinichirou Miki, the voice behind Takumi. |
| Posted by: ukfan Apr 25 2007, 02:46 PM |
| After google and reading some reviews on the car, heres what i come up with on the S2000 The S2000 is considered a tricky car to handle for several reasons 1:) The electric power steering doesn't have much feel to it 2:) It is very very twitcy in the wet 3:) The stiff chassis and suspension make the car very unsettled over bumps, pot holes etc Interestingly cars made before 2004 tended to suffer from oversteer and after adjusting the suspension for the face lifted models they understeer more Apparently its not a bad handler by any means just takes a while to place any confidence with the chassis and use it effectivly So i guess in short, like anything it takes getting used to but it takes longer in this case Personally to me it just sounds like a powerful fr that needs to be treated with respect, especially in the wet |
| Posted by: power of rotary Apr 25 2007, 03:58 PM |
| may i ask what is the song played in 4th stage ep-6 the race against the ek-9 demo car its the song played before forever young it goes something like this "i believe in you...." thx in advance |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 25 2007, 04:20 PM |
| "Secret Love" by Nutty is the song, as I recall. It can be gotten in the Fourth Stage song listing thread: https://idforums.net/index.php?showtopic=7393 |
| Posted by: mark4000 Apr 26 2007, 02:40 AM |
| I see. Thanks for the great info. Now I love it more than ever. |
| Posted by: mark4000 Apr 29 2007, 04:47 PM |
| During the Battle against God Foot, what was the "loop hole" on the plan that Ryosuke was talking about? Also Why didn't Joushima just use his "Record Line Attack" during the 2nd run where he was leading? I don't think Takumi would be able to copy it anyway. |
| Posted by: Blues Apr 29 2007, 05:51 PM |
| Beacause joshima wanted to win by overtaking Takumi |
| Posted by: 207 Apr 29 2007, 06:50 PM | ||
and also because he wanted to mess up takumi's line for the races. he destroys their line and then takes advantage of it. i presume he does this to those ppl who he cant just outrun + he was curious to see how well takumi drove |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 29 2007, 09:24 PM | ||
I think the loop hole was referring to the downhill run on the course since God Foot was far better on the uphill than Keisuke was. |
| Posted by: mark4000 Apr 29 2007, 09:29 PM | ||||
Um. I was talking about Ryosuke's plan on preserving the FD's tires on the uphill and attack on the downhill. He mentioned something about a loophole on that plan that Hoshino might exploit on the second round. I was wondering what that loophole was...
I dunno about you guys but I personally believe that Joushima could've easily outrun takumi on the second round if he used his Record Line Attack. It's not exactly a kind of technique that could be easily copied, even for someone like Takumi. |
| Posted by: char Apr 29 2007, 10:36 PM |
| [QUOTE]During the Battle against God Foot, what was the "loop hole" on the plan that Ryosuke was talking about? I think it was that if Godfoot could beat Keisuki to the turn around point on the uphill part of the course (as he did do ) then KT would have a hard time of it just to try to get back in front of Godfoot , leave alone outrunning him by a decisive margin on the downhill part of the race. |
| Posted by: HashiriyaR32 Apr 30 2007, 03:53 AM |
| It's more like this. Ryosuke instructed Keisuke to be exactly 7 seconds behind God Foot at all times during the uphill run. Follow too close and God Foot will observe everything. Follow too far back and Keisuke wouldn't be able to catch up during the downhill run. |
| Posted by: mark4000 Apr 30 2007, 04:13 AM | ||
Ryosuke was worried about the "Loop hole" after Keisuke already succeeded in carrying out that part of the plan. There was just something about that 2nd run that Ryosuke was so worried about but I don't know what that is. We all already know that Hoshino exploited that Loop hole and overtook Keisuke. The question is: What was the loop hole he exploited? |
| Posted by: char Apr 30 2007, 12:10 PM | ||
Sorry, I was talking (writing ) about the 2nd run of the race with KT leading at the start. And where godfoot used his power to pass KT or at least get his nose in front on the uphill part of the course at the turnaround point giving him the lead and with two large cars it would be nearly impossible to pass him back to get KT back in the position he started in , therefore it should have ended with Godfoot winning the race.
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| Posted by: vq30dett May 8 2007, 09:14 AM |
| In addition to what's mentioned above, the S2000's short wheel-base makes it extremely prone to oversteer and spinning. Take a look at the limited number of them in Formula Drift, the U.S. Drift Championship, and see how few there are. As a matter of fact, I can remeber Alex "the slidin' hawiian" Pfiffer and Stephan Papadakis driving them, and they always seemed to go back-end-out if anything. |
| Posted by: Kurei May 8 2007, 02:52 PM |
| The Engine in Takumi's 86 is a 20 valve right ?, so it would be 5 cylinders, each with 4 valves, 2 intake and 2 exhaust, right ?, or is it something else ?, i just wanna make sure i got it right |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan May 8 2007, 04:52 PM |
| No. You got it wrong. It's a 20-valve engine, FOUR cylinders, five valves each. If I remember correctly it's 3 intake 2 exhaust. One of the 4A-G guys can correct me if I'm wrong... |
| Posted by: HashiriyaR32 May 8 2007, 06:18 PM |
| Here's the main problem. The 240bhp 4A-GE's that powered the Formula Atlantic cars were 16V 4A-GE's. Stock 20V 4A-GE's only made around 170 bhp. I was wondering why someone hadn't mentioned this earlier. |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan May 8 2007, 08:39 PM |
| Ah right, that's right. But still, just because you have 20 valves doesn't magically add another cylinder to a four-cylinder engine...  |
| Posted by: Kelvin May 8 2007, 09:54 PM |
| I have been wondering, how does Keisuke and the other uphill drivers "drift uphill" It sounds impossible right? |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan May 8 2007, 10:52 PM | ||
It's not impossible. You just have enough torque to overcome the increase in rear traction. |
| Posted by: Kelvin May 8 2007, 11:17 PM |
| So that makes uphill drifting more difficult than the downhill drift? How about passes? Like Usui. That would be like drifting on highways with just little ups and downs on the ground. |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan May 8 2007, 11:50 PM |
| I think you're gravely misunderstanding something. I'll be a little more clear in hopes it will help. 1.) "Hard" is relative. I'd say it's actually easier to do uphill because you absolutely need the torque to break traction. Downhill you have weight off of the rear wheels, so you can get into a situation where it's gravity deciding the slide (and you can't control the gravity as effectively...). But it's relative. It's an opinion-based thing. 2.) "Pass" just refers to a road going through a mountain, in which case all of the roads you see in Initial D are passes. So what are you referring to? By the way, Usui is pretty crazy in real life. Perhaps you're confusing the made-up Arcade Stage course with something else? |
| Posted by: Kelvin May 9 2007, 12:15 AM |
| I see. Cause the Usui in the arcades look more like a highway... LOL. My bad... Do u hav actual pictures of the real Usui??? |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan May 9 2007, 12:23 AM |
| Also in the pinned threads. https://idforums.net/index.php?showtopic=700 |
| Posted by: Kelvin May 9 2007, 12:29 AM |
| Wow... good stuff. I am new. So can u explain to me "pinned threads".. BTW, you seems to know a lot NOMAKE. U must be a great ID fan.. So am I. |
| Posted by: Kelvin May 9 2007, 12:37 AM |
| I'm wondering... Would Kyoichi win Takumi if he didn't handicapped the Irohazaka match? Would Ryosuke win Takumi if he raced Takumi instead of Keisuke in First stage act 2. |
| Posted by: Rookie_One May 9 2007, 11:54 AM |
| the 20V used in ID is an JGTC Group A specially modified for racing |
| Posted by: Kurei May 9 2007, 04:13 PM | ||
Yea i knew a 5-banger didn't sound right, but it was the only math i could make out to make everything else even, god i hate math Now what about this "Dry sump" in the engine ?, exactly what is that ? (other than a special oil pump) |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan May 9 2007, 04:21 PM |
| Well, I'm a fan of Initial D, sure... but I also know a thing or two about automotive physics. Pinned Threads are those ones on the top of the page that say "Pinned" on them. They are there because they are the most common things in this forum. Many answers people have when they start out can be answered if they just check out the pinned threads. |
| Posted by: mark4000 May 10 2007, 04:42 AM |
| what kind of Motorsports is Tomoyuki involved in? |
| Posted by: Kurei May 10 2007, 04:44 PM |
| Ok, now that im in the right thread, i got a question about the 86's engine The "Dry sump" oil pump, what exactly is that and how does it work ?, only thing i can fully understand about it is that it helps lower the engine in the engine bay, thus lowering the car's center of gravity... |
| Posted by: MattW May 10 2007, 04:47 PM | ||
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_sump
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| Posted by: Nomake Wan May 10 2007, 06:09 PM |
| Split posts from FAQ thread into this Q&A thread. Whew. |
| Posted by: twitchykun May 10 2007, 06:41 PM |
| from what i could gather from the episodes with Tomo, he's a touring car racer, probably along the lines of Super Taikyu, Super GT, or some one-make race. |
| Posted by: mark4000 May 11 2007, 01:48 AM |
| so he only drives sports cars and production cars then....? |
| Posted by: fuji_tak May 11 2007, 02:04 AM |
| At first tomo was a todo school's student. So he mad touge battles like sakai ans others. But i think he was a genius at that time. With his level he could reach pro world. He should race in GT category or something like that (JTCC). |
| Posted by: Kelvin May 13 2007, 09:21 AM | ||
But I think Tomo must have a hard time when he first enter the Pro world. Because Touge battles are very much different than Pro racing... |
| Posted by: RacerPaul May 15 2007, 08:34 PM |
| Does anyone besides me think that at the end of Initial D when Project D is over that Keisuke will eventually challenge Ryosuke to a battle? Or the other way around Ryosuke challenging Keisuke to a battle to test how much he has learned? I think it would be quite a interesting battle especially if Keisuke surprises Ryosuke. |
| Posted by: Kelvin May 15 2007, 09:30 PM | ||
That will probably happen before the Takumi-Keisuke rematch. |
| Posted by: mark4000 May 16 2007, 12:01 AM | ||
hmmm...i dunno....it never really crossed my mind, actually. Who knows....maybe they will. |
| Posted by: fuji_tak May 16 2007, 01:33 AM |
| I think the end of project D is coming. When you think that Ryosuke said in third stage about to make a team that beat record in all kanto during one year. |
| Posted by: Kelvin May 16 2007, 02:21 AM | ||
So it's only Kanto? Is Tokyo a part of it? Then Project D will meet the Sivia s15 guys.. lolz |
| Posted by: kazahana May 19 2007, 05:52 AM |
| Another question. How many times did takumi raced on shomaru? |
| Posted by: fuji_tak May 19 2007, 07:12 AM | ||
Yes Tokyo is a a part of Kanto. But i think shuichi shigeno don't put Tokyo on line. Takumi will go maybe to Tokyo after project d ans Mogi Natsuki could be make her come back. |
| Posted by: 207 May 19 2007, 03:56 PM |
| wat happnened with the natsuki look alike after she found out the truth? |
| Posted by: tiQlado May 23 2007, 07:31 PM |
| I got a trivial question about Fumihiro's "nickname". In the anime, I distinctly recall Ryousuke calling him "Fumi" in the ep where they made a practice run before the race with Tomo. While in the manga scanlations, it seemed anyone from the RedSuns from Kenta to Ryousuke would alternately call him "Shiko". Why is that? Could it have something to do with how Fumihiro's name was written, that it can be read two ways? (like the Japanese character (kanji) for 'mountain' can be read as "san" or "yama") Or is it just their pet name for him, or is it a common nickname for Hiroshi? |
| Posted by: Kelvin May 24 2007, 06:38 AM |
| Why did Shigeno did not do side stories like those with Mako and Sayuki when he continued Intitial D to the Project D arc... And back in first stage, would ryosuke had won if he race takumi on Akagi? |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan May 24 2007, 07:00 AM | ||
Has nothing to do with the topic. Merging with proper thread. Post merged with questions thread and edited to merge with already posted question by same user. Kyishi: Shigeno didn't do Extra Stage in the manga until after the Anime had already done it. I would wager that his original intention was not to side-track at all, but was instead to go straight from the Akina to the Project.D arc. Also, I doubt it. Akagi is not as severe as Akina and doesn't seem to have any "special" locations that only a local would know about. It's about as tricky as Usui was. So I really don't think it would've changed anything. |
| Posted by: mark4000 May 25 2007, 04:10 PM |
| Question about the manga/anime differences (more of a confirmation actually): Do Shingo and Nakazato really drive automatics in the manga? |
| Posted by: HashiriyaR32 May 25 2007, 04:13 PM |
| NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO............................... That was a huge-ass mistranslation by the scanners. Shingo was supposed to be talking about the differences in FF and FR cars (weight distribution, for one). Ironically, even TP got that right. |
| Posted by: mark4000 May 25 2007, 05:14 PM |
| What the hell...... wow...that's a pretty big mistranslation....  ok. Thanks for the info. |
| Posted by: tiQlado May 28 2007, 06:03 AM | ||
Aww, nobody's gonna crack a shot of this? Kyishi: Digging your avatar! |
| Posted by: ukfan May 28 2007, 07:15 AM |
| Kyishi if i remember correctly there was an Impact Blue Manga that you bought online and downloaded like an E-Book. edit Yup they where online only. The first 2 where based on Extra Stage but i don't believe anyone on here ever downloaded them to confirm this. You can still get the japanese version online http://kodansha.cplaza.ne.jp/e-manga/club/...inid/index.html  (This was the only scan i could find and i'm not sure if its from the regular manga or not) |
| Posted by: Mako_Iketani May 28 2007, 08:08 AM | ||
Your first assertion is correct. Fumihiro's name uses the characters: Shi - History or Chronicle; AND Kou - Vast, Wide, Expanse. So, when run through most programs - especially ones that do not have options to handle "Proper Names," website romanji frontends (like Kakasi), and even with people with basic understanding of Japanese, the combined kanji for Fumihiro's name would be the same as "shi kou." But, any lookup of the kanji for "Shikou" will not get you the combination that make up the kanji for "Fumihiro" - and there are 2 possible Fumihiro/"Shi Kou" name kanji combinations. In other words, quality control failure on the scan-lators. (And these are *mistakes* that TokyoPop would get the torches and pitchforks thrown at them in swarms.) Iketani Mako |
| Posted by: tiQlado May 28 2007, 08:31 AM |
| ^ Brilliant! And I thought there were two ways to read "Hiroshi", and not "Fumihiro". And you were right; I didn't find any definition for "shi kou", though I looked it up as "shiko". It just reminded me of "Peacemaker Kurogane" when one of the Shinsengumi, Yamanami, was also called "San-nan" (I think he was actually called that). Kind of makes me wonder if there really was a translation error, or that the same name-calling thing applies with Fumihiro. I'm not totally discounting your explanation, of course. I know that not a lot of people in the board might have answered my question. At least, I don't have to go on assuming that it's a "cultural" thing to call someone something else just because their names can be read another way. Much thanks, Mako_Iketani! |
| Posted by: mark4000 May 28 2007, 02:20 PM |
| I've read somewhere that there were inaccuracies in Tokyopop's technical explanations. Since I only have TP scans of volumes 8-15, I was wondering if there were any innaccuracies made there, specifically during the race of Takumi and Kyoichi in Irohazaka and with Kogashiwa. |
| Posted by: mark4000 Jun 10 2007, 05:41 PM |
| erm....I dunno if I'll be allowed to double post but since simply editing my last post obviously won't get me anywhere: I honestly didn't understand how on earth did Keisuke defeat Kawai. Could someone care to explain it for me? |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Jun 11 2007, 12:05 AM |
| It's explained in manga. Atsuro thinks that power in straightlines is an avantage for his skyline wich has more power than FD. But Keisuke said him that the speed in some straightlines is not only related to HP but it is affected by how you think about the next corner. So in some straighlines FD was faster than the GT !! Thinking about corners before the fd pass it, Keisuke controle his breaking and his speed and overtake the GT. |
| Posted by: mark4000 Jun 11 2007, 01:08 AM |
| So Keisuke won because he was faster when coming out of the corner. Is that right? |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Jun 11 2007, 01:55 AM |
| Yes he anticipated each corners after straightline, braking later and he probably used aspiration of the skyline like in F1...but this point was not said... |
| Posted by: mark4000 Jun 11 2007, 02:10 AM |
| I see. Thanks alot. I could barely understand Keisuke's explanation in the manga scanlations so I got confused. |
| Posted by: ruiisu Jun 18 2007, 08:37 AM | ||
Yeah everything comes full-circle especially after the explanation of "Infinite Racing Lines" by God Arm. By using the higher exit speeds, drafting, and an overall smoother drive he was able to pick lines that consistently gave him the edge. Even against god foot he was able to conserve his tires much better. (although I must admit the FD being lighter helped a lot too!  ) |
| Posted by: Kelvin Jun 20 2007, 04:49 AM |
| Does anyone know the colours of the Evo7 and Omiya's MX5? I mean, the car colours. |
| Posted by: MattW Jun 20 2007, 04:50 AM |
| Uhm, comic book grey? I dunno what else to say, lol. |
| Posted by: Kelvin Jun 20 2007, 05:02 AM | ||
I mean, didn't shigeno pick the colors for the cars he drew for the manga? |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Jun 20 2007, 06:18 AM | ||
Shuichi Shigeno never give in the manga info colors about cars (only in the covers). But Omiya MX5 and evo7 don't appeared on front or back covers. |
| Posted by: Sanae Jun 20 2007, 06:57 AM | ||
I remember reading in the Vol 10 from the TokyoPop edition that Ryosuke's FC is supposed to be silver. That said, I don't know how reliable this info really is... |
| Posted by: Kelvin Jun 20 2007, 07:16 AM |
| So avex just simply assume the color of the cars when they make the anime? |
| Posted by: BOZZ Jun 20 2007, 09:59 AM | ||
Whoa that's the first I heard of that... Regarding the whole issues of colours, the manga is in black and white, and with the exception of the cars that appear on the covers I am guessing that Avex and the car model makers pick a colour that they think is being portrayed with the level of shading a car gets in the manga. For instance, Miki's car in the manga is shaded (if I can remember) to make it appear dark, yet in the anime its silver and in the game it's black. |
| Posted by: ruiisu Jun 20 2007, 12:19 PM | ||
 wow 3 different colors for a single car... |
| Posted by: haspieuw Jun 21 2007, 09:52 AM |
| can someone tell exact which ep that takumi felt the pressure of keisuke of his downhill skills ? it should be somewhere before the battle of keisuke VS god foot |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Jun 21 2007, 11:11 AM |
| During battle FD vs GTR34 when Takumi noticed that will be mix between uphill ans downhill. He was pressured by tha fact that Keisuke is stronger in downhill. Episode 20 or 21. |
| Posted by: haspieuw Jun 21 2007, 03:44 PM | ||
i already know that i just need to know when it EXACT happens |
| Posted by: Kurei Jun 21 2007, 06:27 PM |
| Ok, got a question about the 20 valve In the 3rd stage Anime, Ryosuke says that the engine produces 240HP @ 11,000 rpms, and in the Manga (before Takumi's battle with the Levin), Bunta says Takumi can take it up to 11,000, where the power is. But, i can't recall any time in the Anime or Manga of him shifting @ or past 11,000 rpms, so wouldn't that mean that he isn't getting all the power from the engine ? If so, could there be any reason why he's not 'toping out' ? |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Jun 21 2007, 11:37 PM |
| In second stage before battle trueno & levin, Takumi said to Bunta the what is the rev limit for the new engine. Bunta said 11.000 rpm. And during the battle Bunta said that Takumi must go in hight rpm (between 10 000 to 11 000) to see the real potential of the new engine. |
| Posted by: mark4000 Jun 24 2007, 05:09 PM |
Why does Tomoyuki love to pick his nose infront of other people while talking?  |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Jun 24 2007, 10:20 PM | ||
Tomo picked his nose infront of other people while talking because it's a "mimic" or "tic">>i'm not sure for my english(something that he did without thinking) |
| Posted by: pnoytecknix Jun 25 2007, 07:35 AM |
| ^u mean its just a habit? |
| Posted by: DamienWolf Jun 25 2007, 08:04 PM | ||
I would assume so. Just like how Bruce Lee used to swipe his thumb across his nose every now and then. |
| Posted by: pnoytecknix Jun 26 2007, 08:17 AM |
| ^that wasnt really a question, i was just correcting fujitaks word choice... but yeah its kinda like that... |
| Posted by: Kelvin Jun 28 2007, 12:51 AM |
| How does Tomo's Pro racing experience would help him in a street race? |
| Posted by: mark4000 Jun 28 2007, 02:42 AM | ||
Pros usually practice almost all day everyday. They improve their technique as well as familiarize themselves with their cars and then improve the performance and settings of the car based on what they feel when they drive it. Basically, the immense quality and quantity of his training experience is the one that outshines normal streetracers and also the one that helps him in a street race. We all know that he's suppose to be the winner of that race. That's because of pure racing experience and a really cheap trick we like to call a "nudge". Unfortunately, it was Fujiwara's luck and Shigeno's author powerz0RZZ that screwed him sideways.  Long story short: It's all about experience. He knows what to do and when to do it during a race alot more than Fujiwara. Personally, he's probably my second most favorite Initial D racer next to Joushima. |
| Posted by: Kelvin Jun 28 2007, 04:33 AM | ||
How about Sakamoto? Rally drivers share some similarities to Pro circuit racers. |
| Posted by: mark4000 Jun 28 2007, 05:16 AM |
| Rally drivers dont have as much experience in fighting for positions as other pro racers. That's one of the reasons why Sakamoto choose to lead. Plus, although the lightweighted car he had gave him a good amount of advantage, the really wet condition made it a contest of how much the driver could push his car to the limit and car familiarity had a huge effect. So that's Sakamoto's 5 day experience of driving the capp against Fujiwara's 6 years worth of driving the 86. Needless to say, the difference was enough to even out the playing field until the final strech where the 86 had the bigger advantage. |
| Posted by: RacerPaul Jun 28 2007, 07:56 AM | ||
The Todou Chief also mentions that when lectures Daiki and Saiki about speed. The more experienced you are the faster you go. So the older the racer you are the faster you become I guess? That of course could explain why Joushima and Bunta are so fast. |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Jun 28 2007, 08:52 AM |
| for older pilot experience made theme faster. But in F1 nowadays younger are more faster than the most experienced. Alonso beat Schumacher Hamilton is beating Alonso |
| Posted by: char Jun 28 2007, 12:06 PM |
| There is something else also Younger drivers are more Reckless, they don't think about the what could happen , they take risks that older drivers wouldnot take. what i mean is they just do without thinking about anything but what their doing once you get older you start to think about what could happen and then you became more carefull, take less risks etc just look at the people who die in car accidents on the roads most of them are young. |
| Posted by: mark4000 Jun 28 2007, 03:25 PM | ||||
older doesnt always mean faster. When you go past your prime, there's always a chance for your senses to start degrading and you wont be as active or as alert as the younger guys.
I still remember a certain race where Alonso caught up to Schumacher and the two had a tail-to-nose dogfight until the end of the race. Alonso screwed up at the last corner by running his outside tires over the grass while Schumacher kept a smooth and consistent run throughout the race. It was not such a big mistake though since Alonso still kept his 2nd position. When I remember that race, I get reminded of the difference in skill between those two. |
| Posted by: MattW Jun 28 2007, 03:43 PM | ||
Imola, '05 AND '06, but, the roles were reversed the second year. |
| Posted by: RacerPaul Jun 29 2007, 10:45 AM | ||
Yeah, your right, but doesn't experience make up for degrading senses. The more races you are involved in the the older you get and the more experience you gain. I'm not saying a 80 year old with tons of experience can exactly win against youngsters, but around the early 40's, late 30's. |
| Posted by: Dan Jun 29 2007, 06:51 PM |
| Anyone got details on the new Initial D babe? Ummmmmmmm............... she is some golfer Mika Uehara. I wonder if she is the one in the cover of Manga Volume 35? |
| Posted by: mark4000 Jun 30 2007, 04:13 AM |
| True. Older people do have an advantage of having more experience and better technique than kids but there's still the question of "are they still able to use it properly". This is, in no way, a generalization though. In the end, it's up to each and every person's own physical and mental condition. (i.e. Bunta is probably an Ox compared to a wimpy Joushima Toshiya) |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Jun 30 2007, 11:05 AM | ||
You'll have more luck in the Q&A thread. Merging now. |
| Posted by: Kelvin Jul 1 2007, 07:32 AM |
| But older people lacks stamina, like God Hand. I wonder why God Foot and Bunta wouldn't... |
| Posted by: RacerPaul Jul 2 2007, 05:27 AM | ||
God Hand was already sick before his race with Takumi so you can't blame him for losing concentration, but he did pull away in the end. |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Jul 2 2007, 06:09 AM |
| I think Hoshino & Joyima spoke about doctors. Hoshino is fat and Joyima seems to have some problems withis stomach (certainly caused by his age or stress). This two are not like project D members, they must have pressure with their life, work etc...Purple shadow memebers said that they didn't see them long time ago. |
| Posted by: Kurei Jul 2 2007, 05:32 PM |
| Quick question, After Takumi's battle with the Evo. 6, back at Akina, he says he's found a new technique or something, says "this is it" and then in the Anime you see this http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n23/mig...t=initialdf.gif Or i think that is it, im not sure (youtube removed all 4th stage epi's), all i know is he goes flying around the corner Was it a new brake technique ?, or a new line technique ?, i can't really figure it out |
| Posted by: 207 Jul 2 2007, 07:15 PM | ||
not really, takumi needs to find a fast line an 86 can take that a impreza cant take. takumi found out that line vs the e6 could be taken by an impreza-> useless to use against bunta as he can take it as well does anyone know the year of the FDs shown in the anime (2 fd ans 1 fc)? |
| Posted by: Bejita Jul 4 2007, 09:46 PM | ||
The FC is the 2nd generation RX-7 and i believe the production years were 86-92 The FD is the 3rd generation RX-7 and I believe the productions years for those were 93-95. |
| Posted by: BOZZ Jul 4 2007, 10:08 PM |
| The FD was from '92-'01, only North America got it in '93-'95. Having said that I think that Keisuke's FD is probably the Series 6 (92-95), or even the Series 7 (95-99), as it is mentioned in First Stage (manga I am sure of) that his car (Keisuke's) is brand new and that Takumi's car is 10 years old (83-86 maybe?). |
| Posted by: 207 Jul 5 2007, 06:14 PM |
| wat about the black fd? did the manga ever specify 1 year for each of the rx7? |
| Posted by: thrill3rnit3 Jul 11 2007, 08:16 PM | ||
FD was produced until 2001 |
| Posted by: twitchykun Jul 18 2007, 08:59 PM |
| Kyoko's measurements? Come on IDW, don't let me down! |
| Posted by: Kelvin Jul 19 2007, 01:56 AM | ||
33C, 30, 36........ Lolz... Just my wild guesses... |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Jul 19 2007, 02:55 AM |
visual is better  |
| Posted by: Helldevil Jul 19 2007, 11:12 PM |
| Does anybody know if there will be a new anime after the Fourth Stage? |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Jul 19 2007, 11:20 PM | ||
Please look around and use logic before asking this question. https://idforums.net/index.php?showtopic=27623&view=findpost&p=832703 |
| Posted by: EvolutionXI Jul 20 2007, 05:33 PM |
| Was just looking through my old stack of cds and saw my disc with the raw of the ID: Exciting Final Special. Does anyone know if this has ever been fansubbed? |
| Posted by: Kurei Jul 20 2007, 06:25 PM |
| Godfoot and GodHand, Was there ever any talk on weither they we're "lonely drivers" as well or no ? I know in the Anime, when Godfoot is talking with Keisuke, he mentions something about young ladies, and then his "Gut" ( ), but i don't think he talked about any sort of Wife, and GodHand never said anything as well...Then what about the Manga ?, seeing how that is usually more in depth and detailed, there might of been more a hint, does anyone know ? |
| Posted by: Kelvin Jul 22 2007, 12:11 AM | ||
I don't think they're loney drivers. Based on Godhand's experience driving his car, he should have gotten it at a young age. So is Hoshino... They would woo ladies with their hot rides... HAHAHA. |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Jul 22 2007, 02:28 AM |
| Hoshino and Jojima are purple shadows former but before project d it seems that they didn't race often like the youngs purple shadow members said when they saw them. I think they have family and job that take them lot of time. Hoshino seems to work in pro car industry and Jojima maybe is doctor. In the S2000 there is a phone maybe in relation with Jojima job. But something is strange when Hoshino told to Keisuke about is fat body, he said him that now he attracts young chicks with money. So maybe hoshino is not maried. And jojima seems more serious. But who knows |
| Posted by: Kelvin Jul 22 2007, 02:36 AM | ||
Imagine Godhand warning Bunta not to smoke if they ever meet face to face. |
| Posted by: Kobe101 Jul 24 2007, 03:44 PM |
| so who gave Tak (Takumi) those messages about his girlfriend going out with her dad? |
| Posted by: DeeezNuuuts83 Jul 24 2007, 04:25 PM | ||
Natsuki wasn't going out with her dad (that would be wrong), she was just with this guy who she would call "Papa." You know, how sometimes you ask a girl, "Who's your daddy?" Same deal. |
| Posted by: Nissan_drifter Jul 24 2007, 04:43 PM | ||
In the manga, a girl with glasses(forgot her name) was the one who called Takumi to go to the restuarant. If I remember correctly "papa" is the girl with glasses uncle. |
| Posted by: Kelvin Jul 24 2007, 09:27 PM | ||
She appear and declares everything in volume 17. |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Jul 24 2007, 11:11 PM |
| The name of the girl with glasses is "Shiraishi." |
| Posted by: Kelvin Jul 25 2007, 12:49 AM | ||
Nice cover. The dvd covers in my local shop is not like this. Is this the import japanese version? |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Jul 25 2007, 01:06 AM |
| Considering the picture in the background I would say that's a fan-made cover. |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Jul 25 2007, 05:33 AM | ||
It's not fan covers. It's the second edition japanese covers. my favorite  |
| Posted by: Kelvin Jul 25 2007, 05:53 AM | ||
Nice cover!!! Can you post every one of it? Or perhaps a link? |
| Posted by: Berserk Jul 27 2007, 03:55 PM | ||
Going to ask this now, as an updated question; Does anyone know if there going TO GET A LICENSE to dub the 4th stage? And, is there anyone to get 3RD stage in english ..... just curious, common people, im sure we can fish around to find something! I fully agree with reading, its hard to concentrate on the GFX around you ... |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Jul 27 2007, 07:57 PM |
| No one has announced a license to Fourth or the Battle stages. The license to 3rd Stage is dead in the water. |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Jul 28 2007, 03:13 AM | ||
see my blog. You find them all. Just volume 12 with Takumi missed. |
| Posted by: BOZZ Jul 29 2007, 01:27 AM | ||
Hoho... I just checked your blog Fuji_Tak... I got to say this cover is the best one out of the bunch:  |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Jul 29 2007, 02:26 AM |
| Kozo Hoshino is less fat in this cover than in the anime. lol |
| Posted by: chibimoto Jul 30 2007, 07:19 PM |
| i finished the stage 4 a while back now i want to read the manga but dont know where to start do anyone know where does the anime stop at? |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Jul 31 2007, 02:27 AM | ||
Volume 32 is the first manga featuring content not seen in the Anime. |
| Posted by: Kelvin Aug 1 2007, 04:15 AM |
| The chapters for vol 36 will cover up till? What is the latest chapter? Has it gone pass 500? |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Aug 1 2007, 09:38 AM | ||
vol.36 should contain chapter 489 to 500 +. But it has not yet serialized. Maybe the cover of volume 36 will be put in chapter 500. (next week maybe). The latest chapter is this week chapter (vol.499). |
| Posted by: Berserk Aug 9 2007, 01:10 PM |
| Where is the fun in reading Initial D? There wouldnt be no extra vocabulary that would make you more ' intelligent ' .. as opposed to reading a book like Moby Dick. ~ I WANT 3RD STAGE AND 4TH STAGE IN ENGLISHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Aug 9 2007, 10:21 PM | ||
Possibly the silliest, most thoughtless post yet. You may as well have just said, "Where's the fun in reading?" or "Where's the fun in Manga?" |
| Posted by: Kelvin Aug 9 2007, 10:32 PM | ||
English? I prefer my manga in chinese, much better if I can understand Japanese kanji. Note: Agree with Phoenix. |
| Posted by: fettman53 Aug 12 2007, 11:16 PM |
| Does anyone know how many volumes of the manga will be made when the entire story is finished? |
| Posted by: -BillabongDude Aug 14 2007, 10:12 PM | ||
yea...i really doubt that ANYONE not even the creators and stuff would know... seems like an ongoing series so far... also, like, in the manga, err where are they?? still project d and stuff? cause im to lazy to go buy a whole bunch of manga books...they expensive too |
| Posted by: DeeezNuuuts83 Aug 14 2007, 10:23 PM | ||
I believe the manga is currently where Takumi is battling Kai Kogashiwa (MR2 guy from Third Stage) in his (new) MR-S. |
| Posted by: -BillabongDude Aug 14 2007, 10:45 PM |
| o.O so which volume is the one where takumi just beat godhand and stuff... and, so he does get a new car??? |
| Posted by: toookoooldrew118 Aug 17 2007, 12:09 AM |
| not sure where i heard this but i heard somewhere that the D in Initial D stands for drift and the word initial means to start from. so Initial D meaning starts from Drift. |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Aug 17 2007, 12:39 AM |
| to BillabongDude>> After his victory against S2000, Takumi don't switch his car. He has always his hachi roku. to toookoooldrew118>>Only the author know the meaning of D. And in the manga Ryosuke said that the meaning will be said at the end of project D. So we don't know yet. |
| Posted by: Kazama Aug 22 2007, 05:36 AM |
| Hi, i have a very big problem. Who gives Takumi the advices that Mogi is always meeting the Mercedes guy for money? And Who called Takumi, that Mogi ist meeting that guy in die family restaurant. Who was that? The Mercedes Guy himself to get Mogi her mother, another girl who????? I hope somebody knows the answer, so pleaseeeeeeeee PS: Miki and Mogi were only dating, put never a couple, that right, or!? |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Aug 22 2007, 06:10 AM |
| Mogi's friend Shiraishi was the one who sent all the tips to Takumi. This was revealed in the manga but not the Anime. |
| Posted by: Tessou Aug 22 2007, 06:11 AM |
| Where did they actually name her Shiraishi? I tore apart every page looking for that. |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Aug 22 2007, 06:16 AM | ||
Probably the same place they name the LanEvo drivers from Fourth Stage. I think Shigeno put it in a resource book or something... do a forum search I guess, there's a source somewhere... |
| Posted by: Kazama Aug 22 2007, 10:28 AM |
| Thanks! I just read v9 and now I´m sure Mogi is a CALLGIRL.  I had suspicion but i wouldn´t believe it. So, she gets Money for SEX with the MERCEDES GUY, thats FACT! 1.) But does she has sex with miki ?and 2.) Miki is the SON of the Merceds GUY, that fact, or? PS: I read the other threads but everybody say ..... and ...... so, i´m only interest in FACTS and advices, which are SURE I think, i must read the whole MANGA, only watching the anime isn´t enough. But i only want to know, PAPA and Miki are Father and son. And Miki really has sex with Mogi to, or he only want to sleep wuth her??? So, please thats important for me |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Aug 22 2007, 11:02 AM |
| Mogi is like a lot of middle school girls in Japan. We could see that in lot of drama like GTO...She go out with salary men. She is an escort girl ango too in love hotel. So she had sex for money. It's not clearly said in the manga but i think Miki is not son of Benz guy. In third stage he said only that he knows that Mogi made it for money. The character who phoned to Takumi and said him about Mogi disgusting activity is her best friend (glasses' girl). She said it for 2 reasons : she is the best Mogi friend and want mogi stop to escort adults and she love secretly Takumi so she thinks that told the true to Takumi could make her win in the 2 boards. |
| Posted by: Kazama Aug 22 2007, 12:14 PM | ||
thats "normal" in Jap incredible !!!!!So, you know a lot coolBut in the third stage he says Miki:" Lets have fun like we used to // You couldn´t have forgotten me, could you." . . . . Mogi:" I´m afraid I have no intenion of going out with you." => Going Out in the ANIME means SEX in the Manga, I guess. caz Papa and Mogi are only dating. In the Anime is no picture of having sex. In the ANIME, it is clear. So, i guess that Miki and Mobi make it, so is there an picture in the anime which says it clear like the story with Papa and Mogi? But i think, i don´t read the manga yet, he has a relationship, thesame like papa, an other client: the KEY is Lets have fun like we used to // You couldn´t have forgotten me, could you. // I´m really confused The another thing is, later in stage 3, when Tak (Takumi) (Takumi) (Takumi) (Takumi) (Takumi) (Takumi) (Takumi) (Takumi) (Takumi) (Takumi) save her, she says him everthing, and there only that she got money only from the Mercedes guy to " MEET" // what says the Manga!!!!!! very important So, what he meens with Lets have fun like we used to (Miki)// Mayby my Sub isn´t correct with the translation. Youre Version of Stage 3 says that //It's not clearly said in the manga but i think Miki is not son of Benz guy.// In third stage he said only that he knows that Mogi made it for money. So, what says the Manga clearly about the whole stuff with Miki. 1.) result: he kows only her Secret! But what means that subber Translation=>Lets have fun like we used to (Anime) So, can you or everbody watch watch miki says to Mogi in your Version of Stage 3 and what exactly says the MANGA of STage threem when mogi is with Miki in the car: Mayby, there is a big Translation failure  So i have it: So listen carefully!!!!! Abount one Year before initial D stars with Stage one. Takumi is in a soccer club. Miki is one of the older Player. So, miki ist 18 and Takumi 17 / Mogi 17. Mogi is the manger of the soccerclub!!!! Miki become boyfriend of Mogi and has sex with her. He tells everbody, his friends in the changing room how he want too train:" She´s become good at fellatio, too! Sine I´ve been Training her ......... Takumi heard that and got mad, punch him. So, mogi doesn´t talk to him animore. Now initial D stage 1 starts. Suddenly Mogi talk with Takumi // reasion, she know what happend, a teammember said that, after Takumi left the club. Then she makes a cut with Miki and decides to talk with Takumi. after a year again. SO, miki doesn´t know about her secret and isn´t the Son of the Benz Guy!!!!! But, the Benz Guy is the Father of Mogis girlfriend, with the glasses. I think, when she cuts with Miki, she gets somehow a "callgirl" and that how it is v1 ch1 there is the answer, I´m so happy, so that how i work, always FACKTS but i saw there are many battles which arent in the Anime so why PS: I don´t know why but that whole stuff about Mogi is very important for me |
| Posted by: Kelvin Aug 23 2007, 05:39 AM |
| Any new cars debuting after the final round of the expedition? |
| Posted by: Type-M Aug 23 2007, 11:52 AM |
| Why didn't Iketani just call Mako after he fail to show up to meet her? |
| Posted by: thx712517 Aug 23 2007, 12:11 PM |
| A screwed-up sense of honor, I think. He failed at living up to her expectations, thought he couldn't compete with Ryosuke, and simply gave up. She knows he can't drift, so he has to be embarassed about that too. |
| Posted by: DeeezNuuuts83 Aug 23 2007, 03:00 PM | ||
Because Iketani is a huge dumbass. In Extra Stage (which seems to take place during Stage 2 and 3), Mako makes it clear that she was still into him and was still expecting him to call her even though he stood her up. |
| Posted by: Kurei Aug 29 2007, 06:39 PM |
| Got a question about Omiya's MX-5 Do we have any idea's as to its power form ? (N/A or Turbo ?) or any idea as to how much HP it has ?, maybe even weight ? Im wondering because im considering building a performance based replica in GT4 |
| Posted by: LiveAndLet Sep 22 2007, 05:50 PM |
| Does anyone know what decals are EXACTLY on Ry (Ryousuke) Takahashi's RX-7 FC? If possible the ones from maybe the manga or the original anime because I want the official canon ones. |
| Posted by: das_GT-R Sep 28 2007, 11:00 AM |
| is the NSX ever gonna appear in initial d? more specifically an NSX Type R |
| Posted by: DeeezNuuuts83 Sep 28 2007, 11:25 AM |
| Supposedly Project D's next opponent consists of one NSX that has made some appearances at other battles in the manga. |
| Posted by: fuji_tak Sep 28 2007, 12:29 PM | ||
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| Posted by: EA11R Sep 29 2007, 05:50 PM |
| Everyone know about 4th Stage's Pink Jazz that's in the background everywhere? As it turns out, Reina Akikawa of Wangan Midnight is driving it! [youtube]<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/uldgPmg6Bgk"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/uldgPmg6Bgk" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>[/youtube] Go to 6:00 EDIT: That's it, I give up! I can't seem to embed a youtube video in here, so here's the url: Reina 6:00 |
| Posted by: dmhc69 Sep 30 2007, 11:40 PM | ||||
the code would be:
but it's not a feature available on these forums. |
| Posted by: EyeshieldKun Oct 8 2007, 01:06 PM |
| Can someone tell me what volume to start the manga on after after the animes 4th Stage? |
| Posted by: Tessou Oct 8 2007, 01:54 PM |
4th Stage ends after Purple Shadow, which closes up at volume 31. Volume 32 starts with the "Project D Wannabes" story (and Mika  !!) and goes on from there. |
| Posted by: AzNMaVbOi Oct 20 2007, 08:12 AM |
| Pardon me if this question has been asked before, but I'm somewhat curious about something. In third stage, Mogi gives Takumi that AE86 Christmas Tree Ornament which Takumi later puts on his key chain. You see it throughout the rest of Third Stage, but does he keep it after joining project D? You never see it in fourth stage, but by the end of third stage, it implies that he's probably not going to remove it. If he did remove it, why? Was he afraid of being made fun of by Keisuke or something? |
| Posted by: thx712517 Oct 20 2007, 08:33 AM |
| Weight reduction? Although I could totally see Keisuke ripping on him for it. Maybe he felt it was out of place in a "professional" environment. Remember, he's got some serious self-worth issues now that Keisuke's a downhill monster. |
| Posted by: javierel22 Oct 20 2007, 09:52 AM |
| I've a question...those two fake project-d dudes that have 86 and fd with stickers they look familiar...for me they look the same that those two with the Silvia S-15 on 4th stage chapter 7 when apperars the hachi-go turbo....or i'm seeing bad? |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Oct 21 2007, 05:39 AM |
| Javierel22: You're not seeing poorly, but you're wrong. It's not the same two. Azn: Watching through Fourth Stage, they just plain never show the side of Takumi's steering column where the keys would me. So it might be there or it might not. If not, maybe it's because Ryosuke told him to remove all distractions from his driving environment? |
| Posted by: ap1grl Nov 8 2007, 04:51 AM |
| Hi, I'm new to this forum. I just started watching initial D. I like it very much. I saw all 4 stages. i have a question. does anyone know what happen to takumi's girlfriend? they don't talk about it anymore. I wish they show more females in the show. thanks |
| Posted by: Kelvin Nov 8 2007, 05:02 AM |
| Natsuki is currently studying in Tokyo. Takumi has a new love interest. If i'm not mistaken. |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Nov 8 2007, 10:50 AM | ||
Mika is just a new distraction. I figure she'll be written off later too. |
| Posted by: ap1grl Nov 8 2007, 11:52 AM |
| who's Mika? I don't remember her? is she in stage 4? |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Nov 8 2007, 12:08 PM | ||
No she is not. Mika is introduced soon after Stage 4 ends, in the manga. For a quick rundown of how that goes about... -Two guys pretend to be Project.D -One of the guys (pretending he's Takumi) blows off this chick -Chick is Mika's friend -Mika finds [the real] Takumi at the gas station and slaps him -...then of course discovers that he isn't the right guy And there you have it. Takumi, being a guy, forgets about being slapped and decides to hit it instead. |
| Posted by: Kelvin Nov 26 2007, 10:26 PM |
| Just wondering: does Takumi works? I mean he just concentrate completely on D's goal? Where did he gets his money for personal stuff? |
| Posted by: Chidoki Nov 26 2007, 10:53 PM | ||
4th Stage, first episode...delivery packaging company, but he's not the driver of the semi-size truck. I think that's the only episode we see it. |