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> Eraser, Advanced Technique
razorsuKe
  Posted: Dec 1 2008, 12:31 PM


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The real turning power comes from shifting down, so yes 4-5-4 works but it only really helps when you're doing the 5-4 part

if you're in 4th and you want to eraser, doing 4-3-4 should help better.
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Posted: Dec 1 2008, 07:25 PM


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The 5-4 thing use when u in 4 and almost reach 5. If u use 3-4 your speed will drop like 1 km/hr but not with 5-4. If you didn't do TA, use 3-4 is easier.
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Posted: Feb 10 2009, 12:41 PM


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I feel stupid but I still just have a really hard time wrapping my head around the whole eraser concept. I understand that it angles the car into the corner more, but am I doing it in the straight or just before the apex or at the apex or what?

Videos haven't been much help because everything happens so fast that I can't really tell what's happening when x.x I've just been getting frustrated trying to figure it out.

If someone could take a specific corner and just sorta step by step through it I would really appreciate it. Something like the V at Akagi, the 5 deadly hairpins at Akina or the first corner of Iroha.
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Posted: Feb 11 2009, 05:17 AM


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@TakeshiSkunk

I'm not very experienced at this, but I'll give it a try anyways.
You should be doing the eraser(s) before you enter the turn because you want that angle AS you enter that corner. You need to figure out that timing (with the brakes and all) since the hairpins aren't all the same.

As for the V turn in Akagi, I would recommend that you don't use the eraser to try and clear it. Instead use the MSG technique because you'll need to slow down a lot.
Approach the turn from the outside lane and perhaps give the break a little tap. ( At this point, you are not turning yet, you're still on the outside lane approaching the V)
Then quickly downshift two times and make the turn, as SOON as you hit about half way through the apex, shift up once.
This works for me just about every time, and I would recommend you do this for the first corner if Iroha as well.
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Posted: Feb 11 2009, 07:52 AM


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*nods* That's how I've been taking those corners, actually. It's just all this talk of erasers makes me feel like I should be doing them all over the place.

What would be a good example of a corner that could really use one?
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Posted: Feb 11 2009, 08:15 AM


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Usui ccw first turn first lap, c-121. - can do full gas if use eraser (depends on car).

Akagi very last right turn. - can do full gas if use eraser.

Akina very last left and right turn. - can do full gas if use eraser (depends on car).

Irohazaka dh last turn. can do full gas if use eraser (depends on car).
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A big mistake that most beginners or people that don't know exactly what the eraser does is that they eraser when the wheel is straight. There is no effect at all if you eraser when the wheel is straight. The trick is to eraser and tilt the wheel alot/slightly (depending on the corner) before you enter the corner. Basically the more you know the game, the earlier you can eraser and slide the car to the corner (faster exit). basically thats it.....Anything else?
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I've been playing with it in Special Stage on my wheel..even if it doesn't work quite the same in Ver.2 I think I'm starting to understand what's going on. I'll have to make a point to work on it my next trip to the arcade.

Thanks everyone for your help smile.gif
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Posted: Feb 16 2009, 07:26 AM


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so on the first and second sets of Irohazaka uphill (the narrow hairpins) it's not possible?
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Posted: Feb 16 2009, 08:12 AM


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QUOTE (pukpukracer @ 46 minutes ago)
so on the first and second sets of Irohazaka uphill (the narrow hairpins) it's not possible?

What do you mean not possible?

Impossible to use eraser or something?
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Posted: Feb 19 2009, 06:41 PM


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after the tunnel and 90 degree right, is there time to angle the car when I'm already at 115km/h and desperately trying to get a line in 5th gear?

Plus can it be done in the Irohazaka second section (uphill) where the turns are abrupt?
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Posted: Feb 20 2009, 04:29 AM


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It is possible, you just need to get the right timing.

For the first turn, it depends on car if it possible to do 5i4o.

Watch some video on youtube help you understand better i think.
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Posted: Feb 23 2009, 06:38 AM


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I tried it once and then tried following this youtube video I saw that used brake slides rather than erasers (guy finished 3'06), actually did a bit better tongue.gif

but just in case, is it (angle car, brake ,erase, brake , gas ) or (angle car, erase, brake, turn and gas)

those youtube videos don't show the person's feet! I can't tell if they're braking or just letting go of the gas after braking.
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Angle car
eraser
brake+wheel jerk
turn + gas off
full turn + full gas

Watch the speedometer to see if they brake or not.
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Posted: Feb 23 2009, 11:47 PM


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I recommend mastering the basics first. Choosing the right lines, when to start/stop braking, and feinting. Then it'll be easier to learn eraser. It's hard to get good when using eraser w/o knowing how the mechanics/physics of the game work.

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