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> Toyota Killing Off Scion
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  Posted: Feb 3 2016, 10:10 AM


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http://www.motortrend.com/news/breaking-to...-brand-the-axe/

So I guess we can have the proper GT86 badging now.
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Posted: Feb 3 2016, 10:28 AM


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Do we get the Celica back in the process?
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Posted: Feb 3 2016, 10:34 AM


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dat Toyota 86 tho!

They should kill the prices of the Lexus cars while they're at it too~ XD

+1 Ralli's Celica idea... 4WD please! awesome.gif
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Posted: Feb 3 2016, 10:42 AM


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Scion’s death will see three of its cars move to the Toyota lineup. The FR-S, iM, and iA will continue under the Toyota brand while the tC will be discontinued after August 2016 and will have a final release edition to commemorate its end of production.


Didn't know this was actually a thing. Evo Final Edition. TC Final Edition.

Eh.
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Posted: Feb 3 2016, 10:59 AM


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Best result is that the tC is getting shitcanned. The redesign killed any appeal that car ever had.

Worst result is that their pricing strategy will not be absorbed into Toyota. Goodbye, easy negotiation. Hello markups.
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Posted: Feb 3 2016, 12:19 PM


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QUOTE (Tessou @ 1 hour, 19 minutes ago)
Worst result is that their pricing strategy will not be absorbed into Toyota. Goodbye, easy negotiation. Hello markups.

... Welp. Can't imagine what a markup for a renamed FRS would be.
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Posted: Feb 3 2016, 01:52 PM


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"Well, it has the Toyota badge on it, so now it's $2500 more expensive. Fuck you, we're Toyota."
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Posted: Feb 3 2016, 05:24 PM


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Finally?

Not suprised at all, TBH.
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  Posted: Feb 4 2016, 07:48 AM


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This...

YOUTUBE ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t3X8KDMzKo )

...this is the next genration of marketing~!!

Super Toyotabeat, FSCK YEAHHH!! I'm buying an FR-S! ♫ cool.gif
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Posted: Feb 4 2016, 08:43 AM


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QUOTE (xiao @ 55 minutes, 31 seconds ago)
This...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t3X8KDMzKo
...this is the next genration of marketing~!!

Super Toyotabeat, FSCK YEAHHH!! I'm buying an FR-S! ♫ cool.gif

i dont get it Xiao. why is Toyota advertising some anime or game promo vid now? have they decided to take on the anime industry now? if so what series will they support and animate, i sure as hell hope they dont horribly destroy a perfectly good anime/manga series. is that a new variation of the Kancolle video game series?

and just where does the Toyota car brand even make its way into the game promo video???? i cant see nothing car-related in that game promo video.

i am however now questioning myself why i never really gave too many Toyota cars a sufficient evaluation before settling on a car from Ford when i went to buy my current car.

its very weird right now my spidey-sense is tingling now but i cant figure out what that game promo video is hiding behind that catchy music.

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Also from Toyota, the badge would still be FRS but its also gonna be more expensive than it was in Scion. Imo, its confusing what Toyota is doing at this point.
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Posted: Feb 4 2016, 12:23 PM


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QUOTE (The Sixth Element @ 3 minutes, 12 seconds ago)
Also from Toyota, the badge would still be FRS but its also gonna be more expensive than it was in Scion. Imo, its confusing what Toyota is doing at this point.

It's more expensive because pure price is no longer a thing. Now that you can get a "true" Toyota GT86, you get to pay the premium. For a fucking badge.
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QUOTE (Kiroshino @ 4 hours, 52 minutes ago)
To be fair: http://jalopnik.com/yes-there-really-is-an...this-1753324672

very nice subaru itashi car. i wish i could do that to my car though i dont know which series and how far i'd go with it.
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Posted: Feb 4 2016, 02:50 PM


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It's a shame that Toyota never did enough with Scion to actually live up it to its initial expectations of that brand.

Besides going with the name Toyota FR-S I wonder what changes are in store for the FR-S.
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Posted: Feb 4 2016, 06:21 PM


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QUOTE (BOZZ @ 3 hours, 30 minutes ago)
It's a shame that Toyota never did enough with Scion to actually live up it to its initial expectations of that brand.

Besides going with the name Toyota FR-S I wonder what changes are in store for the FR-S.

I wish Toyota would let STI or TRD to work on the car so its more "sporty" than the base model
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very nice subaru itashi car. i wish i could do that to my car though i dont know which series and how far i'd go with it.

One of these days I'll get that Subie BRZed... (technical difficulties have impaired my ability to purchase the one I ordered this year) ...and when I do; I'll have like thirty license plates to fly like a fairy all the way to The Top~!!cool.gif

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QUOTE (The Sixth Element)
Also from Toyota, the badge would still be FRS but its also gonna be more expensive than it was in Scion. Imo, its confusing what Toyota is doing at this point.

They're probably just gonna change the badge on the hood/trunk, but keep the FR-S name. All my fellow tweet-weebs living in Japan, drool over the FR-S pics I've shared with them; they basically think the name FR-S is some sort of weapons grade Plutonium code... if they only knew that Black Mesa's actually staffed by fat~arse anime -negative 65 IQ waps like xiao~ awesome.gif

QUOTE (The Sixth Element)
I wish Toyota would let STI or TRD to work on the car so its more "sporty" than the base model

Shove an LT1 in it... in the trunk like a Porsche proper!! user posted image
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Posted: Feb 5 2016, 01:11 PM


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It needed to happen. It should have happened after the first gen. The cars were quirky enough to stand out then, but not anymore. They were still econoshitboxes, but they actually had appeal. The original xB was, dare I say, actually a cool car. It created its own class, yet it didn't set the bar high enough; the Juke and Soul easily are better options when comparing to a 2nd gen xB. They didn't stay true to what they were... They became too much Toyota, just like the downturn of Saturn when they became too much GM.

And the FRS was only sold as a Scion to keep the brand afloat. It would have been better badged (and optioned) as a Toyota, instead of the economy version that everyone skipped over for the better optioned Subaru. Seriously, not a single person I know who races a GT86/BRZ/FRS drives the Scion-badged variant.
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QUOTE (Spaz @ 1 hour, 3 minutes ago)
The original xB was, dare I say, actually a cool car.

All of our work vans are 1st gen xBs. My van is actually a special edition with a number plaque above the glovebox, with color matched leather seats and stock foglights that don't suck ass. awesome.gif

The later generation... well, they looked like stretched Nissan Cubes.
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QUOTE (Spaz @ Yesterday, 2:11 PM)
They became too much Toyota, just like the downturn of Saturn when they became too much GM.


That's the problem I see with Toyota; attempting to enter the supposed "Generation Y" market with "hip, practical, sporty, and trendy" offerings. Remember the Project Genesis (Last-Gen Celica, MR2 Spyder and Echo)?

QUOTE (Tessou @ Yesterday, 3:15 PM)
All of our work vans are 1st gen xBs. My van is actually a special edition with a number plaque above the glovebox, with color matched leather seats and stock foglights that don't suck ass. awesome.gif

The later generation... well, they looked like stretched Nissan Cubes.


And the fact that the engine/transmission choices left a little to be desired. Would have been nice to use the running gear in the tC, though.
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QUOTE (Shirogane @ 6 hours, 8 minutes ago)

That's the problem I see with Toyota; attempting to enter the supposed "Generation Y" market with "hip, practical, sporty, and trendy" offerings. Remember the Project Genesis (Last-Gen Celica, MR2 Spyder and Echo)?


The MR2 Spyder wasn't bad for what it was but I can understand the last-gen Celica. Toyota used Scion to target Millennials though from my understanding. Toyota shifted it's focus towards I would say a much wider market but those who weren't as interested in sporty cars.

It would make me very happy to see Toyota do an about-face and bring back their sports car brand.

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QUOTE (xiao @ Feb 4 2016, 08:48 AM)
This...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t3X8KDMzKo
...this is the next genration of marketing~!!

Super Toyotabeat, FSCK YEAHHH!! I'm buying an FR-S! ♫ cool.gif

I don't understand why Toyota is doing this. What kind of car needs 40 anime girl mascots?

Its outrageous. I've looked at all of them and they have one for the freaking door chime!

Scion has always been an interesting sub-brand. I'll never know why the tC was such a popular car. It always looked gross and ugly to me.

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QUOTE (THE_HONDA_CG2 @ 1 hour, 26 minutes ago)
I don't understand why Toyota is doing this. What kind of car needs 40 anime girl mascots?

Its outrageous. I've looked at all of them and they have one for the freaking door chime!

Scion has always been an interesting sub-brand. I'll never know why the tC was such a popular car. It always looked gross and ugly to me.

boxy, 2 door, rice market abundant, american = Scion TC

That's just my opinion but thats what I feel about them. The second generation is at least better looking than the first.
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QUOTE (The Sixth Element @ 1 hour, 15 minutes ago)
boxy, 2 door, rice market abundant, american = Scion TC

That's just my opinion but thats what I feel about them. The second generation is at least better looking than the first.

You think the angular box tC looks better than the smooth first generation model? I thought they made a mistake with the redesign.

I think the appeal of the tC was that it came during the fever pitch of Fast and the Furious, and you could have it customized to order, instead of spending money on parts and installation post purchase. It was an inexpensive sport coupe with a great warranty and support from one of the most reliable marques on the planet (at the time). What's not to love?
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I learned just today that Scion would install a custom supercharger kit and put flames on a TC out of the dealer.

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