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newbie | Posted: Nov 19 2002, 07:38 PM |
Unregistered | lan evo III is eqipped with this miss-firing system rite?...or something like that....wat's this system all about and how does it make evo III able to drift? |
Crono | Posted: Nov 19 2002, 07:41 PM |
IDW Full Member Group: Members Posts: 34 Member No.: 99 Joined: Nov 19th 2002 Location: Arizona, Valley Of The Sun | no no no, Ryouchi had it upgraded to his Evo III you'd have to upgrade it because it doesn't come standard. damn cool though POP POP POP POP Evo III can drift standard when you buy them if you know how |
tonberryking | Posted: Nov 19 2002, 07:44 PM |
Unregistered | isnt " a mis-firing system" a way of just cramming more boost into an engine and causing detonation? Just curious...cause the fire coming out of the exhasut system.. thanks, Devon |
Crono | Posted: Nov 19 2002, 07:46 PM |
IDW Full Member Group: Members Posts: 34 Member No.: 99 Joined: Nov 19th 2002 Location: Arizona, Valley Of The Sun | stage 2 episode 6 Takumi vs Ryouchi he has a misfiring system for his Evo III. A small pop comes out the back of his car randomly that lets him pick up speed too bad Takumi's car had to blow up |
Guest | Posted: Nov 19 2002, 07:50 PM |
Unregistered | ya that makes sense, misfiring, overbooosting prolly... I dunno though I'll do some more research tonight, take care crono, devon |
karasac | Posted: Nov 19 2002, 08:48 PM |
Rotary Disciple Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,209 Member No.: 11 Joined: Aug 28th 2002 Location: Chino Hills, California | a mis-firing system dumps a little fuel into the exhaust and it detonates it and the little explosion keeps the turbo spinning eliminating turbo lag. and u can drift in an evo III without it. |
Perry | Posted: Nov 19 2002, 09:52 PM |
Like an eagle! Group: SITE OWNER Posts: 8,014 Member No.: 1 Joined: Sep 15th 2002 Location: San Leandro, California | heh, not trying to be picky, but the name is Kyouichi. |
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vtecstyl3z | Posted: Nov 19 2002, 09:56 PM | ||
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you lil picky ass.hahahahahahah stfu !! | ||
SupahNewbie | Posted: Nov 20 2002, 02:40 AM |
Request Title - PM Mods Group: Members Posts: 422 Member No.: 100 Joined: Nov 20th 2002 Location: Update Profile | Woah what if it misfired on a turn and made him crash? Course I'm a newbie so feel free to correct me |
Crono | Posted: Nov 20 2002, 05:34 AM |
IDW Full Member Group: Members Posts: 34 Member No.: 99 Joined: Nov 19th 2002 Location: Arizona, Valley Of The Sun | errr, Kyouchi? my bad no, dont think of the mis firing system as a thrust, because it's not (well maybe it is, i've never been in one) what happens is that by doing that, your turbo comes in quicker and you dont have turbo lag. My brother's WRX has a turbo that kicks in at 3000 RPM but before 3000 RPM, its just a regular car (2.0 liter engine) however, you can get things like a Blow Off Valve or that mis firing system that makes your turbo kick in earlier |
tofu boy | Posted: Nov 20 2002, 05:24 PM |
IDW Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 89 Member No.: 55 Joined: Oct 22nd 2002 Location: Update Profile | Dude, the misfiring system is simaliar to the anti lag system of the WRC and it kills the turbo faster. And yes u can drive a Lan Evo can drift but u have to be damn good and the car has to be tunned correctly cause the car was orginally enginnered to do grip driving. |
]{aya | Posted: Nov 20 2002, 05:52 PM |
Old HOT PINK Schmuck Group: Advanced Members Posts: 841 Member No.: 47 Joined: Oct 16th 2002 Location: Montréal, Québec | ok first this system is not street legal, and its the sevond solution to virtually eliminate turbo lag, it loads gas into the exhaust, then this fuel create a lilttle explosion that maintains the boost pressure...ok now this system is EXPENSIVE, you CAN"T find in a lil ricer shop near you, and it destroys a turbo and exshaut system in 500-1000 kilometers of DISTANCE on RACE cars, likely faster on street cars... so forget that, get a twin turbo instead |
tofu boy | Posted: Nov 20 2002, 06:00 PM |
IDW Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 89 Member No.: 55 Joined: Oct 22nd 2002 Location: Update Profile | yup... hey didnt we have this whole discussion a while ago on some other post?? |
]{aya | Posted: Nov 20 2002, 06:01 PM |
Old HOT PINK Schmuck Group: Advanced Members Posts: 841 Member No.: 47 Joined: Oct 16th 2002 Location: Montréal, Québec | i think so ...but theres always a new guy that brings out old topics ! |
Perry | Posted: Nov 20 2002, 06:23 PM | ||
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Found this in the old message board. | ||
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karasac | Posted: Nov 20 2002, 06:44 PM | ||||
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that says what i said but mine is less technical and faster to read | ||||
Kyo | Posted: Nov 24 2002, 08:29 PM |
IDW Expert Member Group: Members Posts: 117 Member No.: 57 Joined: Oct 23rd 2002 Location: Update Profile | wow..we are talking about the past topic again... anyhow... for the new members.. please read Tech Specs on Initial D car which i started many donkey years ago some ppl here explain pretty good and clear on mis firing system.. though some are misleading... have fun Hmm..i wonder where is my EG vs AE, Honda vs Toyota topics are? it's very informative.. and i didnt save a copy of it yet... (any1 can undelete it for me? ) Vtec.. where are you? havent been seeing you these days.. |
Perry | Posted: Nov 24 2002, 09:02 PM |
Like an eagle! Group: SITE OWNER Posts: 8,014 Member No.: 1 Joined: Sep 15th 2002 Location: San Leandro, California | The topic Honda V.S. Toyota had not yet been deleted. It's here. http://www.4gigs.com/~go2id/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=74 |
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vtecstyl3z | Posted: Nov 24 2002, 09:35 PM |
United States Marine Corps Group: Advanced Members Posts: 792 Member No.: 4 Joined: Sep 17th 2002 Location: San Francisco, California | ... any topic that older than 30 days will be on the second pages of the general discussion you mite want to look up on second page.! |
Kyo | Posted: Nov 26 2002, 06:13 PM |
IDW Expert Member Group: Members Posts: 117 Member No.: 57 Joined: Oct 23rd 2002 Location: Update Profile | oh..sorry..didnt wear my specs to c clearly... preparing for exam lately... no time to log in... infact... I just finish 1 paper and having another paper in 3 hours time... school life suckx... varsity life even more suckx... no adult incentives.... me being treated like a kindergarten school boy... ok ok.. i know..enough of my craps... me butting out here |
r35gtr | Posted: Nov 22 2015, 09:31 PM | ||
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this is basically it but do not expect your car to have a good mileage and expect it to last 100,000miles. | ||
CharlieParker | Posted: Apr 18 2016, 05:32 AM |
IDW Member Group: Members Posts: 16 Member No.: 41,907 Joined: Jul 29th 2013 Location: Canada | They call it a miss fire system but its a translation thing.... Its actually anti lag. It removes the time a turbo needs to spool up meaning instant boost at all times. It advances ignition timing and fuel to flow gas through the turbo at all times. The issues arise in heat, massive heat. Some turbos get so hot they glow see through. It literally destroys its self internally as mentioned. Most aftermarket standalone ECU's now come with the feature built in if you want to enable it. 99% of people dont or put it on a switch so they can shoot flames at shows etc. but for general non motorsport use its an extremely costly system to run. Hope this helps. Charlie This post has been edited by CharlieParker on Apr 18 2016, 05:33 AM |
Spaz | Posted: Apr 19 2016, 06:42 AM | ||
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It retards timing, doesn't advance it. The fuel still enters the engine at the same time it normally would, but ignition is retarded to just before bottom dead center so that expansion is still happening when the exhaust valves open, increasing pre-turbine exhaust pressure dramatically. Also, the factory system doesn't eliminate all lag. And now that that's settled, consider this a pre-warning on necro-posting. There's no reason to revive threads that don't have active discussion unless there's relevant content that will re-stimulate it. In this case, there hasn't been in previous necro-posts. | ||