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> bunta and ryousuke
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  Posted: Sep 15 2004, 04:55 PM


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This is similar to the "whos the better racer" thread. But the question is, who do u think is more knowledgebale about racing techniques! It seems to me that Bunta just learned how to be a good driver by instince and is always like "dont u get it" and doesnt question y things work, but ryousuke on the other hand is like, hmm that works now im gonna spend the next month figuiring out y. So who do u think is smarter?
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Bunta is smarter, he just never tells Takumi anything because he wants Takumi to learn everything on his own just the way Bunta did when he was Takumi's age.

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QUOTE (alanj @ Sep 15 2004, 04:55 PM)
This is similar to the "whos the better racer" thread. But the question is, who do u think is more knowledgebale about racing techniques! It seems to me that Bunta just learned how to be a good driver by instince and is always like "dont u get it" and doesnt question y things work, but ryousuke on the other hand is like, hmm that works now im gonna spend the next month figuiring out y. So who do u think is smarter?

Bunta. It's his experience and his born instinct.
After all, his training methods are betta too... cuz he gave the space for takumi to explore. whistling.gif
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Posted: Sep 15 2004, 05:26 PM


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His "training method" of the paper cup's only purpose was to keep the tofu from getting messed up by Takumi's bad driving. Takumi did the rest on his own.
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QUOTE (RakeRon @ Sep 15 2004, 05:26 PM)
His "training method" of the paper cup's only purpose was to keep the tofu from getting messed up by Takumi's bad driving. Takumi did the rest on his own.

it's on purpose too. there's a meaning in every what bunta give the scenario for takumi to do.

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haha i think it was both, but more to teach him the proper weight shifting skills. he could have driven slow as hell and been fine
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QUOTE (RakeRon @ Sep 15 2004, 05:26 PM)
His "training method" of the paper cup's only purpose was to keep the tofu from getting messed up by Takumi's bad driving. Takumi did the rest on his own.

oh dude, ur missing much more ... of course the paper cup's main objective it to monitor its motion to prevent the tofu from breaking but in doing that it would teach Takumi so many more driving aspects - keeping the car in ideal balance, smooth handling, precise shifting

it's like Takumi says in first stage "braking, gear shift, steering .. if any is rough the water will spill" .. therefore, he had to learn how to perfect each driving aspect to be able to accomplish the water in the paper cup thing

(*agreed with spinnee wink2.gif*)

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haha i think it was both, but more to teach him the proper weight shifting skills. he could have driven slow as hell and been fine


remember he had to go to school the next day so if he went slow he wouldn't get any sleep so he was forced to go faster in order to sleep and therefore in order for him to go faster he had to shift the weights properly so the tofu wouldn't mess up.

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If I remember right, Bunta admits the only reason he did the whole paper cup thing was for the tofu's sake. Takumi's godlike driving skills is a sideaffect from that repeditive conditioning. Takumi learned how to attain perfect balance and from there he was trying things out to get home faster from work and to keep from getting bored.
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QUOTE (RakeRon @ Sep 15 2004, 05:55 PM)
If I remember right, Bunta admits the only reason he did the whole paper cup thing was for the tofu's sake. Takumi's godlike driving skills is a sideaffect from that repeditive conditioning. Takumi learned how to attain perfect balance and from there he was trying things out to get home faster from work and to keep from getting bored.

ermmm... that's to takumi.
but we all can see that there's things to learn behind that cup.

like smiley_Dc2 mentioned & sidewatsgts, bunta is just trying to create a situation for takumi to realise his potential. i dare to say without bunta asking takumi to drive at wee hours and the cup, he will never be what he is today. the initial start is very important.

it's like : i'm showing you the ropes, the rest is up to you.

after all, that's what initial d is all about... it's all on "the moral of the story is...." or "at the end of the day, u may accomplish this through your own thinking"

and i find this method is good! that's why many academic places are now going for problem-based learning! grin2.gif

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QUOTE (thewird @ Sep 15 2004, 05:52 PM)
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haha i think it was both, but more to teach him the proper weight shifting skills. he could have driven slow as hell and been fine


remember he had to go to school the next day so if he went slow he wouldn't get any sleep so he was forced to go faster in order to sleep and therefore in order for him to go faster he had to shift the weights properly so the tofu wouldn't mess up.

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I remember Takumi saying thnat he was soo scared cause it was dark and stuff and he wanted to go home as fast as he could~
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I don't remember anything about him being scared >_>

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me neither .. where did u see/read this arabiandrew?
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i think he wanted to get home as fast as he could to get more sleep or he was bored or something
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Posted: Sep 15 2004, 06:28 PM


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Both actually. He hated doing deliveries which was why he was so spiteful about cars until he experienced his first race.
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I still don't see how some of you can compare Ryousuke and Bunta, its like comparing a Panda to a Grizzly. Ryousuke could not even beat Takumi...let alone Bunta and the same goes for their knowledge...Bunta knows all there is to know, he does not have a theory for the fastest driving...he is the fastest. Ryousuke is still learning.
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Ryousuke is gonna quit soon so his out of the picture and bunta is like a GOD can't argue with that stupid old man
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I think Bunta still have that old knowlegde ....he doenst know what a Sil80 is

About Ryosuke , hey he is a genious , his lowest grade is a B !!!!
But he is still learning
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well if u ask me, I think BUnta has the upper hand on this one. Ryosuke is really good but u cant beat a guy whos old!
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i have a question about Bunta, you know how in Episode 05 he told Masashi that he didn't want a car with a wing cause it's distracting, then why did he get the GC8V (Subaru Impreza WRX STI Type R version 5). That car has a massive wing.
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QUOTE (MAFD @ Sep 19 2004, 02:28 AM)
i have a question about Bunta, you know how in Episode 05 he told Masashi that he didn't want a car with a wing cause it's distracting, then why did he get the GC8V (Subaru Impreza WRX STI Type R version 5). That car has a massive wing.

good question

maybe Masashi couldnt find other 4WD or AWD cars without a wing
but can you imagine a Impreza without a wing ... it will look horrible

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maybe Masashi couldnt find other 4WD or AWD cars without a wing , but can you imagine a Impreza without a wing ... it will look horrible


Horrible indeed. Still i didnt see Bunta complain much because the car had a wing especially since he smirked when he pwoned takumi on the downhill and drove off as if takumi was standing still and takumi was like "holy sh*t WTF!?" LOL! Priceless! laugh.gif
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QUOTE (Thanos @ Sep 16 2004, 02:50 AM)
I still don't see how some of you can compare Ryousuke and Bunta, its like comparing a Panda to a Grizzly. Ryousuke could not even beat Takumi...let alone Bunta and the same goes for their knowledge...Bunta knows all there is to know, he does not have a theory for the fastest driving...he is the fastest. Ryousuke is still learning.

Ryosuke only got beat because they were on Akina and Takumi knows all there pretty much is on Akina

think if they raced on Akagi
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In the manga Bunta tells Mahashi to forget about all his complaints about the car earlier because after the test drive on Akina against Takumi (without warning from Bunta fear2.gif ) he was hooked.
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Bunta>Ryousuke

Period

Ryousuke is still a n00b.

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