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> Why Iketani and Mako can't be together?
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  Posted: Apr 21 2015, 08:04 AM


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I wonder why Iketani and Mako can;t be together. i know it's stupid but... ohh darn... i am crying of it.. what's the reason of the writer to not make them be together...?
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Posted: Apr 21 2015, 11:55 AM


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Its just the story. The writer even said they never met eachother after Extra Stage 2. sad.gif
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I'll say it again. Shigeno is chronically weak when it comes to writing romance in his manga, and he knows it. His solution for relationships across Initial D is either to put them on a bus, or to show as little of it as possible. Natsuki and Mako move away out of reach of their affected love interests. Mika quickly becomes a background character and we see very little of her interactions with Takumi. Keisuke "moves" out of reach of Kyoko and explicitly tells her not to see him again, so Shigeno conveniently doesn't have to deal with her in the plot anymore.

Just like Rob Liefeld can't draw hands and feet, Shigeno can't write romance.
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Makes me think why he consider writing it in the first place...
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Yeah... why Shigeno wrote the romance in the first place... why he wrote most of the love story become painful... this is a good racing anime i like the most... but why he didn't make the romance plot become good too.... it is so sad, it is just a story but... ahhh.. it's sad.... :,(
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He can't "make it good" because he isn't a talented writer. He's an artist, not a writer.
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That reminds me... Didn't Shigeno create a new manga about a manga artist trying to find love? Whatever happened to that? lol
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QUOTE (Phantom_R32 @ 14 minutes, 50 seconds ago)
That reminds me... Didn't Shigeno create a new manga about a manga artist trying to find love? Whatever happened to that? lol

I grabbed the first volume in Mandarake a couple weeks ago. Dunno when volume two will be out. It honestly didn't look half bad aside from the fact that the MC is the most obvious self-insert ever. Also the main girl is really ugly.
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She reminds me a lot of Kaori, honestly.
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QUOTE (Miura Seri @ 6 minutes, 42 seconds ago)
She reminds me a lot of Kaori, honestly.

Even Kaori is prettier. Have you seen full scans of the first volume?
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I've read the first chapter on the publisher's site, but I couldn't find any traces of it after.
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QUOTE (satria 120r @ Today, 12:02 AM)
Yeah... why Shigeno wrote the romance in the first place... why he wrote most of the love story become painful... this is a good racing anime i like the most...    but why he didn't make the romance  plot become good too.... it is so sad, it is just a story but... ahhh.. it's sad.... :,(

haha, i'm with you on this....i wish he would of made the romance part better and actually have happy endings....in my mind i just pretend that everyone hooked up after final stage and lived happily ever after

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I think we can all agree that Shigeno just doesn't know how to write a proper romance period.
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I am also interested in a full volume scan of Takane no Hana smile.gif Seems like there are only two of them?

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The whole thing played out super stupid.

"Come meet me here if you're serious."

then he doesn't go until the end, and then gets there 2 hours late and she's gone....

Yet didn't they both have cell phones..."? HELLO CALL HER? LOL..... Then they never see each other again? Wtf is that about....


TBH another thing that anoyed me about the show, was the entire "Akina Superstars" team.

I don't even remember their names already, but the 2 guys who worked with Takumi, and their 1 friend were 100% useless to the story. We didnt' even need this love scene at all, but those 3 were added for some stupid reason...

Granted the annoying kid who talks about how amazign he is is just stupid funny, but otherwise the others aren't needed.

They sucl at driving, they never imporve, I figured it would be a progression for everyone, but nope....
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ID at that point took place in the mid-90s, before the craze of accessible, inexpensive cell phones hit Japan. Cell phones were expensive, typically in the $300 range for the average unit, in 1995. There was no such thing as a data plan back then, either. You paid for minutes, which typically cost between 5 and 10 cents per minute. Not cheap.

In First Stage, only a few characters have cell phones (notably Yuuichi). I wouldn't expect a gas station attendant like Iketani to be able to afford one back then on his salary.
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QUOTE (Tessou @ 30 minutes, 20 seconds ago)
ID at that point took place in the mid-90s, before the craze of accessible, inexpensive cell phones hit Japan. Cell phones were expensive, typically in the $300 range for the average unit, in 1995. There was no such thing as a data plan back then, either. You paid for minutes, which typically cost between 5 and 10 cents per minute. Not cheap.

In First Stage, only a few characters have cell phones (notably Yuuichi). I wouldn't expect a gas station attendant like Iketani to be able to afford one back then on his salary.

For sure, but I thought they were texting each other... At least they were ABLE TO CALL each other, even with regular phones it never happened, it just ENDEd like wtf LOL.

"Come meet me here if you're serious."


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i wish i had not watched the episode 20 stage one.. it's a friggin' sad circumstance.. it touched so much.. sad.gif
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QUOTE (satria 120r @ 45 minutes, 24 seconds ago)
i wish i had not watched the episode 20 stage one.. it's a friggin' sad circumstance.. it touched so much.. sad.gif

Or...you know, maybe Shigeno shouldn't have put romance in the first place.

Seriously, he knows his ability to write romance scenes were utterly inept yet he pressed on anyways with half-assed conclusions.

And I can't believe people can be so forgiving on these lazy practices.

If you're not good at it from the get go you should've just completely dropped it.
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@Rin: Yeah, I'm dropping it even though it is hard...
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It just proves that Shigeno is shit at writing character interactions sometimes...or rather most of the time in romances.

Of course, there's little point in saying that now.
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@Rin : I think so, the unfortunate things is Shigeno was great in meeting the loves, but in the end he put it all in sorrow... crying2.gif
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QUOTE (Princess Celestia @ Apr 25 2015, 09:43 PM)
ID at that point took place in the mid-90s, before the craze of accessible, inexpensive cell phones hit Japan. Cell phones were expensive, typically in the $300 range for the average unit, in 1995. There was no such thing as a data plan back then, either. You paid for minutes, which typically cost between 5 and 10 cents per minute. Not cheap.

In First Stage, only a few characters have cell phones (notably Yuuichi). I wouldn't expect a gas station attendant like Iketani to be able to afford one back then on his salary.

On the flipside initial d has a floating timeline, so there is the possibility of smart phones/cellphones

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QUOTE (Princess Celestia @ Apr 21 2015, 12:07 PM)
I'll say it again. Shigeno is chronically weak when it comes to writing romance in his manga, and he knows it. His solution for relationships across Initial D is either to put them on a bus, or to show as little of it as possible. Natsuki and Mako move away out of reach of their affected love interests. Mika quickly becomes a background character and we see very little of her interactions with Takumi. Keisuke "moves" out of reach of Kyoko and explicitly tells her not to see him again, so Shigeno conveniently doesn't have to deal with her in the plot anymore.

Just like Rob Liefeld can't draw hands and feet, Shigeno can't write romance.

Not true at all. In Baribari Densetsu the romance was great.

I suspect he was jilted at some point between 1985 and 1995 and decided that romances in manga needed to be screwed up.

Also, cellphone minutes still cost $$$$ in Japan, which is why people mostly text (although Line has basically replaced texting and email).

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One hit does not make up for five misses, six if you count his latest work.
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