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| Posted by: Seri Dec 5 2015, 04:19 PM | ||
So we've all heard about this right? Totally excited for it as a long time FF fan. Anyway, we now have gameplay courtesy of Playstation Experience.
Still ambitiously worded as a timed exclusive. Whether this means XBONE or PC, is yet to be announced. Anyway, I'm superhype now. I had my doubts, but this is looking amazing so far. |
| Posted by: RalliKai Dec 5 2015, 04:49 PM |
| I like the city design and Guard Scorpion. The voice acting could be better and Barret seems alittle off. Also, I hope the turn-based battle system is still retained. Overall, looks very promising since FFXV hasn't really been on my radar. I'm curious what the Wall Market and Gold Saucer will be like. |
| Posted by: xiao Dec 5 2015, 05:06 PM |
| あれ、日本語モードないのは？ |
| Posted by: Seri Dec 5 2015, 05:12 PM |
| No clue about a Japanese option yet, Xiao. (Assuming I read that properly.) |
| Posted by: xiao Dec 5 2015, 05:36 PM | ||
Yeps yeps, I was reading the comments in the video, and there appears to be a little bit of syncing skew with the English lines, which probably suggests their working off of the Japanese trailer~ I think Square Japan will probably release their own version sometime around x-mas... ...I really wanna hear Yuffie in kawaii moonspeak~ ♥  Also, *crossing my fingers for a Gackt PV!!*  |
| Posted by: Seri Dec 5 2015, 05:49 PM | ||
| There is a Japanese trailer, but I don't know about them leaving the original Japanese voices in the English game as an option. Here you go.
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| Posted by: Tessou Dec 5 2015, 05:49 PM |
| Here's to hoping they tweak the story to not be as fucking convoluted as it was in the original. They did say they were doing something about "new story elements". Maybe fix the existing broken shit, too? |
| Posted by: Seri Dec 5 2015, 05:52 PM |
| Well, they have a whole series to write into now, maybe it'll help keep them on track. Also curious to see how they handle the crossdressing. Someone is going to butthurt by the end of this. |
| Posted by: xiao Dec 5 2015, 07:24 PM | ||
YUSSS!! I shan't be content 'less I hear the best Bob Sapp impersonation this side of Midgar. I hope this HD crossdressing will propel more teens to engage in such activity... if anything purely for my [censored] pleasure~ *sees Dateline party-van outside* ε=ε=ε=(｡ﾉ･ω･)ﾉ |
| Posted by: Phantom_R32 Dec 5 2015, 07:26 PM | ||
They'll probably fix the broken stuff, plus add in a few things that were added in later games. Cloud never really met or interacted with them, but I can see Angeal or Genesis getting mentioned at some point by one of the Shin-Ra goons or Sephiroth. I'm all for the gameplay though. Turn based combat is dated. I welcome ARPG combat with open arms. If it's anything like FFXV's then it should be pretty good. As for the voice acting... Square games have always had pretty lackluster voice acting. Besides the KH series, but I'm sure Disney helped get some of those VAs on board. If the FFXV demo is anything to go by, dual audio is a possibility. The demo for that game has both English and Japanese. |
| Posted by: jbeavis100 Dec 5 2015, 08:31 PM |
| I'm glad they went the Final Fantasy 15/Type-0 route with the gameplay. Though I'm wondering if there will be way to play with turn based gameplay. Visuals are fantastic, absolutely stunning though I do hope for a PC port in the future. |
| Posted by: RalliKai Dec 5 2015, 08:55 PM |
| I look forward to the near endless grinding to just breed a Gold Chocobo again. The only real-time combat I experienced was from FFXII and hated it. I wouldn't mind an option to have turn-based combat included but knowing Square, they'll likely go completely one way or the other. |
| Posted by: BOZZ Dec 5 2015, 09:13 PM |
| Not sure what to make of the new gameplay style, at first I thought you control one character but it looks like switching characters is seamless. This game, FF XV, the new Ratchet & Clank game and that Ni no Kuni game have pretty much guaranteed that I'll be owning a PS4 sooner rather than later. |
| Posted by: xiao Dec 6 2015, 01:02 AM | ||
 ...but how are we gonna go take restroom breaks in between cut scenes without Knights of the Round!? XD I think the real grind's gonna be with Ruby Weapon mang~ oh my gosh... where's my PS4 Game Shark!?!? orz |
| Posted by: RalliKai Dec 6 2015, 05:52 AM |
| Ruby sucks but I've managed to beat it, mostly through luck that it didn't quicksand my trump-card character. I haven't beaten Emerald yet sadly. Also, lol at the PS4 Gameshark. I still have my GameShark module that attached to the back port of the PSX. |
| Posted by: Tessou Dec 6 2015, 08:45 AM | ||
Kotr was break time so long as you had mimic. |
| Posted by: Alastair Dec 6 2015, 10:17 AM |
| on my way to the playstation Expo today in SF can't wait to see is square is showing anything off with FFIIV |
| Posted by: Tessou Dec 6 2015, 11:09 AM |
| They're making another version of FFIII/FFIIV? |
| Posted by: BOZZ Dec 6 2015, 08:24 PM | ||||||||
I think you got your Roman numerals wrong on that second one lol That aside, a few hours ago there was a weird press release sent out by Square Enix stating they were going to be doing this game in episodes.
This was worrisome on a few fronts: 1. What the hell do they mean by multi-part 2. Does this mean it'll be a game sold for $60 but have lots of $10-ish DLC 3. Are they adding Crisis Core and other FF VII games to the remake Then came more news just by way of Wall Street Journal reporter Takashi Mochizuki:
Hopefully more clarification will come up in 2 weeks at the Jump Fiesta event in Chiba. I personally hope they just release it like the first version of the game, on 3-4 discs. More: http://www.dualshockers.com/2015/12/07/final-fantasy-vii-remake-gets-more-information-on-party-size-battle-character-graphics-and-more/ http://www.dualshockers.com/2015/12/07/final-fantasy-vii-remakes-development-will-involve-cyberconnect2-square-enix-visual-works/ |
| Posted by: Tessou Dec 7 2015, 01:09 AM | ||
The numerals were in response to Alastair using the same incorrect numerals. 1. I'll bet 4-5 huge "chapters". 2. Initial price $20, everything else $10-15 each, guessing. |
| Posted by: W.A.R Dec 9 2015, 03:12 PM |
| They will eventually bring out a complete version, but they will release the parts for DLC which will cost more money for the buyer. They are smart about it because they will milk the crap out of this product because it will sell. |
| Posted by: RalliKai Dec 10 2015, 09:04 AM | ||
Beyond a remake, I don't know where else Square can milk FF7 they already haven't. |
| Posted by: Phantom_R32 Dec 10 2015, 04:46 PM |
| I can see them excluding the Gold Saucer from the game and making it a companion app for phones. All of the games, rides and chocobo racing could be freemium games lol... |
| Posted by: Seri Dec 10 2015, 05:11 PM |
| Remember the motorcycle game from Gold Saucer? They already tried that and failed. |
| Posted by: Tessou Dec 10 2015, 07:41 PM |
| Removing chocobo racing would fuck the game up. |
| Posted by: xiao Dec 10 2015, 10:32 PM | ||||
Best BGM in the game... NEIN... best BGM in the World... NO SENOR... best BGM EVER!!1 
Also, I hope this means more Cactuar plushies/keychains~  |
| Posted by: RalliKai Dec 11 2015, 05:51 AM |
Bring back the Pocketstation. Do it Sony!   Actually, I remember there was an FF8 application for this aswell from a PSX mag way back. Also, on that BGM video. |
| Posted by: BOZZ Dec 11 2015, 01:11 PM | ||
Still nothing concrete from Square Enix about the chapters or what have you, but lately they've commented that each "chapter" has a full game's worth of content, hopefully that doesn't mean they'd price it accordingly and have it be $60 per chapter. |
| Posted by: Tessou Dec 14 2015, 01:29 PM |
| http://na.square-enix.com/us/blog/final-fantasy-vii-remake-psx-2015-message-yoshinori-kitase They say to make the game they want, it will have to be released in parts. I wouldn't be surprised if you pay full freight for the first part, with the rest of the parts as "updates" for free. |
| Posted by: BOZZ Dec 14 2015, 11:51 PM |
| What'll be interesting is if they make changes to the ending of FF VII considering how it ended and the Compilation of FF VII stuff. |
| Posted by: xiao Dec 15 2015, 12:19 AM | ||
Dirge of Cerebro needs a HD remake really bad... aside from the flac everyone gave it, I sort of enjoyed it. XD Aside from Sephirosu~ Vincent's probably my favourite male character... Yuffie being my number one though. But yeah, hopefully it's not the end of the 7 brand. As the landmark 3D game of the FF franchise, I'm still uber nostalgic with the whole world.  Also, Nyan~Cat PocketStation is mad love Kai!! Never knew it was possible!? |
| Posted by: RalliKai Dec 15 2015, 01:54 PM | ||
To be honest, I'd rather they just let VII rest for good and move on. Granted, I've not been a fan of the direction the franchise has gone since FFX but still want to give new titles like FFXV the benefit of the doubt. Maybe Square Enix can bring back that spark in the series that got me into it in the first place. Also, I still want a remake of FFVI like what they did with IV on the DS. |
| Posted by: Tessou Dec 15 2015, 02:04 PM |
| Remake VIII. Fix the broken shit and you'll have a perfect game. |
| Posted by: RalliKai Dec 15 2015, 05:06 PM |
| I loved VIII. Atleast the first half. I didn't care for the junction system at all when I first played the game but it grew on me as I got older. If they tweak the story to give the supporting cast each their own unique backstory instead of the whole "we're all conveniently from the same orphanage." I'd like a remake then. |
| Posted by: Seri Dec 15 2015, 06:00 PM |
| I'm extremely biased (VIII was my first of the series and still my favorite) but it should definitely get a remake. |
| Posted by: jbeavis100 Dec 15 2015, 11:10 PM | ||
Same. I really liked it alot and I never knew how much some people disliked it until I was much older and I was really surprised when I found out. |
| Posted by: RalliKai Dec 16 2015, 10:54 AM |
| There were a couple areas in-game that I just didn't enjoy playing. Disc 3 (Esther especially) became an absolute grind where I usually have to force myself to play through. The Draw system was also a turn off. I do remember ordering VIII online and waiting for it arrive at my house after school each day. Hard to also forget a date like 9/9/99. |
| Posted by: xiao Dec 28 2015, 01:05 AM | ||||
hahaha~ I wasn't enough of a nerd back then to even have noticed the date!? Thank god I left the wacky-tobacky back in college... r'else I would've ended up an insane guy with no life posting nothing but cat pictures and selfies of himself in embarrassing situations on the intern... oh wait...  --- --- So I just learned that FF7 PS4 Remix Edition won't be hitting shelves until December... of 2016!?!? Oh noes~ and this was gonna be my excuse to finally get the SonyBox 4.0 ...well, time to start making silly FFVII karaoke videos on the interweebs until Square Soft brings HD Sephiroth to US shores... orz
!? |
| Posted by: Tessou Dec 28 2015, 10:26 AM |
| Sephiroth was one of the worst things about FFVII, though. All of the future Narutards gravitated to "mysterious OP guy with sword" and used it as their online handle for years. They seem to forget that he was actually quite a pushover when you fought him three times at the end of the game. Nobody makes a big deal out of Ruby Weapon.  |
| Posted by: Seri Dec 28 2015, 11:08 AM |
| I mean, no one remembers that Sephy isn't even the main villian. It's Jenova for the most part. |
| Posted by: Tessou Dec 28 2015, 11:19 AM |
And even then, it's defeated by a cutscene.  |
| Posted by: xiao Dec 29 2015, 05:36 AM | ||||||
I always thought the main villain was the Meteor!? XD
The problem is, he completely lacked any semblance of a personality. Maybe if they gave him a pony-tail and made him a Mariachi in a poncho, like Jake, he would've seemed a lot less of a one-dimensional character. Now THIS is how Sephiroth should have been like:
#MEXICAN_SEPHIROTH |
| Posted by: RalliKai Dec 29 2015, 07:02 AM |
| Can't say I haven't gotten tired of hearing people fangasm every time they hear Sephiroth's final battle theme play. All he really is in the end is the main villain's lackey. I had one occasion where the game glitched or something during the final fight and Sephiroth stopped attacking me altogether.  |
| Posted by: Tessou Dec 29 2015, 10:18 AM | ||
Penultimate fight, actually. Unless you're not talking about One Winged Angel. |
| Posted by: xiao Dec 29 2015, 05:58 PM | ||||
VITOLS... FITHOS... SEPHIROSU... VINOSEC!! ...oh wait that's- Also: Coffee Soda Toffee Pasta Coffee Soda... Give Me Coffee!!
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| Posted by: Phantom_R32 Dec 30 2015, 10:09 AM |
| I was actually just playing FF7 again, since it's available for PS4. I forgot how easy Safer Sephiroth is. Use KotR and Omnislash once and the fight is over. Thanks to the game adding 3x speed, I think I beat him in under a minute. To be fair though... Most FF final bosses are push overs. The super bosses that require luck to beat are the real challenging ones. I remember Ozma from FF9 being a real pain in the ass. |
| Posted by: BOZZ Dec 30 2015, 05:50 PM | ||
Heh, I actually beat it (again) on my Vita (a.k.a. glorified PS1 handheld device) a few days ago and I thought how easy the last battles are in comparison to everything you have to do to get there (chocobo breeding, grinding, battle arena, side quests) and that the last battle was a bit of a letdown. I do wonder though if that'll change with the remake, will they incorporate Advent Children as say, the final act of the game...? |
| Posted by: Tessou Dec 30 2015, 06:03 PM |
| Ruby WEAPON. Giant Cactuars. Gi Nattak if you don't use healing items on it. First Jenova fight if you're not prepared. Carry Armor can be a pain with that laser. Bottomswell if you're stupid about keeping your party out of waterball traps. |
| Posted by: BOZZ Dec 30 2015, 07:01 PM | ||
Totally forgot about Ruby Weapon, that was definitely a tough side boss... I wonder why they didn't include it or the underwater Weapon in the original FF VII that was released in Japan (we got the International version of FF VII with the Weapons included) as it did add a level of challenge to the game. |
| Posted by: Tessou Dec 30 2015, 07:40 PM |
| Emerald WEAPON is a pushover with the right materia. You don't need underwater materia to kick its ass. |
| Posted by: Seri Dec 30 2015, 07:44 PM |
Still harder than FFVIII.  Still think it needs a remake the most. And then maybe VI. |
| Posted by: Tessou Dec 30 2015, 07:47 PM |
| I don't think any FF is harder than VIII with everybody at max level. Thanks, devs! You fucked up an otherwise perfect game! VI needs to be preserved as it is. Any remake would tarnish it. |
| Posted by: Seri Dec 30 2015, 08:12 PM |
| Well, for a normal player. I've played it at least a few dozen times that I've learned that I can break it at will. Anyway, I guess you're right about VI, you can play the original on literally everything at this point, so may as well leave it as it. |
| Posted by: Tessou Dec 30 2015, 09:08 PM |
| A remake of VI would come with modern SquareEnix bullshit. Bishonen characters and jpop. Speaking of garbage, let's not forget that FFVII Remake will mean slogging through Cloud's amnesia/schizophrenia sequences over and over and over again. Cue the rabid fanboys cutting themselves because gaaaaaargh this story is so REAAAALLLLL! THESE ARE DEEP CUTS BRO!  |
| Posted by: RalliKai Dec 31 2015, 05:50 AM |
| I simply avoid leveling up my characters in VIII, atleast past 30. Makes getting through the game abit easier. I'm conflicted on a VI remake. I love the original and would rather keep it stain free. That said, if they proposed a remake such as they did with IV and keeping it on handhelds, I'd support it. |
| Posted by: Seri Dec 31 2015, 03:18 PM | ||
| Not FFVII, but too lazy to make another thread. FFIX for PC and smartphones confirmed.
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| Posted by: BOZZ Dec 31 2015, 08:38 PM |
| Man, I guess Square is in dire straights and need that extra funding to finish the FF VII remake and FF XV. FF VIII was hard? Besides that extra boss in the final castle I didn't find it hard at all... As for a FF VI remake, if they do a good job like they did with the FF III and IV remakes a few years back (besides maybe that FF IV sequel - btw I played that on the Wii when it came out in episode form, that game was kinda hard) then it'd be great, otherwise I won't complain if they don't remake VI. |
| Posted by: Seri Dec 31 2015, 08:58 PM |
| Well, FFVIII's enemies scale with the player's level, so the higher your level, the higher level the enemy will be. And considering most of your stats come from junctions, the enemies will make the most of it, and become powerful while you stay about the same as you would at at lower levels. |
| Posted by: Tessou Dec 31 2015, 09:07 PM |
| Exactly. Anybody can run VIII at level 50. Try 99 some time. The enemy steamrolls you like you're made of paper and takes damage like Ivan Drago. |
| Posted by: BOZZ Dec 31 2015, 09:07 PM | ||
Now that I think about it, the only place I found challenging were those two islands where you would go draw stuff like Aura, I think they were, funny enough, called the Island closest to Hell and the Island closest to Heaven. It was a pretty good game though, just wasn't too crazy about the way things developed between Rinoa and Squall, it felt like their relationship just developed way too quickly IMO. |
| Posted by: Seri Dec 31 2015, 09:24 PM | ||
Yes, because the one thing those islands and Omega Weapon have in common is that they're all level 100. (Except Omega on PC, but whatever.) Now imagine all the enemies in the game like that. I have the biggest bias for VIII, and am willing to look past the story, but man that battle system is broken. |
| Posted by: BOZZ Dec 31 2015, 09:30 PM | ||
Hmmm, I was about to say besides those places and Omega Weapon, I had no problems, except I remembered that in Ultimecia's castle all your abilities are locked until you beat those bosses in her castle, they were tough. |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 8 2016, 08:40 AM |
| So a few days ago the original director of FF VII (and currently producer of the remake) spoke about the whole http://www.gamespot.com/articles/final-fantasy-7-remake-will-be-multiple-full-sized/1100-6438387/ of the release of the remake. In his comments he mentions that the release of the remake will be somewhat like Final Fantasy XIII where it was released as 3 separate games. It's still a little confusing as to what they'll do in the remake, the guy does say that nothing is untouchable in terms of making changes in the game, but I hope they'll do a good job and make this far better than the original (if that's even possible!). |
| Posted by: Tessou Apr 8 2016, 08:58 AM |
| Yeah, it's possible. Cut the brooding Cloud/Sephiroth self-cutting session that is half of the "plot". Write a better script. Make the super bosses harder to beat. Emerald is a pussy with a few specific items (and/or 7777). Ruby is easy if you exploit the 7777 "feature". Add some more hidden super bosses. There's a ton of gemstone elements they didn't use to name the WEAPONs, so have at it. Fix the bugs. FFVII was riddled with ways to fuck it up. |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 8 2016, 09:05 AM | ||
Heh, you're suggesting they make a completely new game ha ha... The Cloud/Sephiroth bit is seemingly a huge part of the plot ha ha... That does get me thinking, would they incorporate more stuff from games like Crisis Core and expand the back story with Zack and Avalanche? |
| Posted by: Tessou Apr 8 2016, 09:12 AM |
| They could easily retool the Cloud/Sephiroth story into something more compelling and non-cliche than what they presented in 1997. I did say cut it, true. I think a rewrite would be a better term to use. |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 8 2016, 09:21 AM | ||
Hmmm... I wonder how they could re-tool or rewrite it without changing too much, to be honest I actually enjoyed the bit with Cloud/Sephiroth for the most part and seeing how Cloud came to be the way he did with the fallout of the events of Nibelheim. The only thing I'd definitely want to see re-tooled is post-FF VII events, since by the end of FF VII it seemed as though Cloud was mentally okay and he was doing okay, yet 2 years later in Advent Children he's brooding and being hard on himself for not saving Aerith. |
| Posted by: Tessou Apr 8 2016, 10:17 AM |
| They made him a brooding character because that's what fans buy into: he's the archetypal brooding, constantly unhappy protagonist that cries about the girl he couldn't get because she was too busy saving the planet, and pushes away the girl that throws herself at him and does everything for him. He's a pessimist douchebag that lied his way into Avalanche. |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 8 2016, 10:34 AM | ||
The thing is I don't have a problem with him being that way in the game because of stuff that did happen to him, but I do have a problem when they completely do a 180° after he seems to have overcome his personal demons and revert back to a brooding type of individual. As for him joining Avalanche, unless I am remembering a different game, didn't he join Avalanche because Tifa was pushing him to? I remember there being a scene later in the game where Tifa comes across Cloud at the train station not too long after the events outside of Midgar where Zack died and how his mental state was pretty messed up - eventually leading to Zack's memories Cloud's own aspirations of what a Soldier - First Class would act like overwriting Cloud pretty much. I guess you could say he lied his way into Avalanche, but it wasn't really a fully conscious thing since he was mentally messed up. Either way, it is definitely a game that needs touch ups here and there. |
| Posted by: Tessou Apr 8 2016, 11:11 AM | ||
It's a 180 because the geostigma from Advent Children is partly a result of his own actions, and so he feels the guilt. It's not like Sephiroth is around to take the blame. |
| Posted by: BOZZ Apr 8 2016, 07:55 PM | ||
That geostigma stuff was such a copy out ha ha... Well at least Advent Children turned out far better than Square's previous attempt at a Final Fantasy feature length film... As much of a fan I am of Final Fantasy, I've only ever watched The Spirits Within once and that was the night it opened and I watched with my buddies in the theatre. For some unknown reason I bought it on Blu Ray and have never quite been able to watch it all the way through, I just pass out from bordeom midway through the movie. |
| Posted by: RalliKai Apr 9 2016, 06:49 AM |
| Bought the Spirits Within on DVD way back when it first came out. Watched it once or twice and eventually traded it in. As for FFVII. I doubt it'll happen but I would love to see Sapphire Weapon made into some kind of boss fight. He was lost too soon, what with the whole getting his head blown clean off by the Junon Canon.  |
| Posted by: Tessou Apr 9 2016, 11:11 AM |
| Use revive materia to resurrect Sapphire instead of not reviving Aerith? Please add this feature! |