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Möbius | Posted: Aug 20 2010, 05:17 AM |
IDW Top Poster Group: Advanced Members Posts: 33,844 Member No.: 3,524 Joined: Oct 2nd 2004 Location: Update Profile | It would do a lot for the morale of the forum as a whole if there would be a greater sense of transparency when it comes to mod or admin actions. In the recent couple of days, there have been a couple of instances where such actions did not make sense, and being more transparent would only help. A couple of ideas, to throw them out there: - Access to moderators' log by any member ( as suggested by Nomake ), or failing that, - Implementation of a Pillory List. - Automated mod notes for actions taken in threads ( lock, pin, etc. ) - Removal of "Moderating Team" cop out message from warnings. Just a couple of ideas to consider. |
BOZZ | Posted: Aug 20 2010, 07:42 AM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 28,412 Member No.: 1,414 Joined: Mar 9th 2004 Location: Update Profile | These last few days had me thinking that maybe getting rid of the judiciary section might have been a bad idea after all. If it was still around maybe that could have been the best avenue to explore (it would have been transparent from the get go) rather then the backhanded way that this whole thing went down. |
logan510 | Posted: Aug 20 2010, 07:45 AM | ||
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I thought the old way worked...why was it removed in the first place? Casey | ||
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Möbius | Posted: Aug 20 2010, 07:48 AM | ||
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The problem with the Judiciary was that something that was a relatively serious issue was made into a game. That's why it was removed. The proper way would work : Contact administration, and talk it out. Atone for whatever got you banned, make amends with whoever, etc. Nothing hard about that, why overcomplicate things? Edit: But that is really a bit off-topic as it relates to the purpose of this thread. This post has been edited by Möbius on Aug 20 2010, 07:50 AM | ||
BOZZ | Posted: Aug 20 2010, 07:50 AM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 28,412 Member No.: 1,414 Joined: Mar 9th 2004 Location: Update Profile | Well for one thing, if it had been used it would have been all out in the public eye. Perhaps it could have been fine tuned, rather than having someone else represent, have a sort of guest account that the banned user could use to only post one thread/one post (maybe?) defending himself and why he should be re-instated? |
Möbius | Posted: Aug 20 2010, 07:51 AM | ||
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That would still be a game, IMHO. This post has been edited by Möbius on Aug 20 2010, 09:15 AM | ||
kyonpalm | Posted: Aug 21 2010, 07:16 AM |
Professional Amateur Group: ADMINISTRATOR Posts: 10,568 Member No.: 30,882 Joined: Oct 16th 2008 Location: Laniakea | As long as it will reduce forum politics drama, I'm all for it (greater transparency.) I don't see why the mod/admin team can't be more transparent and open about their actions, so I agree about this. It would also help to bring mods/admins closer to our level and vice-versa. This post has been edited by Larry Butz on Aug 21 2010, 07:17 AM |
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Möbius | Posted: Aug 22 2010, 08:17 AM | ||
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That was something that I was always worked towards during my tenure. It could be seen with my mod notes for any action that I took : *Notes like this* *In all different colours* *Even in the most recent color of red* This post has been edited by Möbius on Aug 22 2010, 08:17 AM | ||
Möbius | Posted: Aug 29 2010, 04:55 PM |
IDW Top Poster Group: Advanced Members Posts: 33,844 Member No.: 3,524 Joined: Oct 2nd 2004 Location: Update Profile | Not trying to beat on a dead horse, but... https://idforums.net/index.php?showtopic=41150 Now people will think I have powers or something. >_< |
Tessou | Posted: Aug 29 2010, 05:25 PM |
More NEGATIVE than a black hole Group: ADMINISTRATOR Posts: 19,345 Member No.: 12,263 Joined: Sep 12th 2005 Location: Update Profile | Fair enough. I overlooked that aspect... it's been a while. |
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Möbius | Posted: Aug 29 2010, 05:27 PM | ||
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Thank you, you know how gullible people can be. | ||
Tessou | Posted: Aug 29 2010, 05:29 PM |
More NEGATIVE than a black hole Group: ADMINISTRATOR Posts: 19,345 Member No.: 12,263 Joined: Sep 12th 2005 Location: Update Profile | I think I will carry on the concept of transparency, given that the administration has no problem with it. Today's actions by myself were: - Closing the above linked thread. - Restating the Community Section rules to reflect a change in moderator privileges. - Reducing Ben's warn level. |
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Möbius | Posted: Aug 29 2010, 05:31 PM |
IDW Top Poster Group: Advanced Members Posts: 33,844 Member No.: 3,524 Joined: Oct 2nd 2004 Location: Update Profile | It's not like you have to post everything in here ( although that sparked an interesting idea of a public mod log, but I doubt it would ever be kept up to date ). |
Tessou | Posted: Aug 29 2010, 05:43 PM |
More NEGATIVE than a black hole Group: ADMINISTRATOR Posts: 19,345 Member No.: 12,263 Joined: Sep 12th 2005 Location: Update Profile | Think of it as an example. The staff section does log mod actions so it wouldn't be that difficult to implement. |
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Möbius | Posted: Aug 31 2010, 02:32 PM | ||
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Quoting my own post for a reason : https://idforums.net/index.php?showtopic=41...dpost&p=1173110 I did not agree with it when it was implemented, and I don't agree with it now. | ||
Alex | Posted: Aug 31 2010, 04:06 PM |
OG Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 9,054 Member No.: 111 Joined: Nov 26th 2002 Location: Atlanta | You don't agree with the little note tacked on to warned posts? e'splain |
Möbius | Posted: Aug 31 2010, 04:12 PM | ||
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I don't agree with the Anonymous warns. | ||
Alex | Posted: Aug 31 2010, 05:09 PM | ||
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Ohhh, I see what you're talking about. I understand why it peeves you, and I agree it can be a cop out. I don't think it's a problem, but I see where you're coming from. This post has been edited by Alex on Aug 31 2010, 05:10 PM | ||
Möbius | Posted: Aug 31 2010, 05:26 PM | ||
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I've never used it once, unless it was by accident. It's hard to garner respect when hiding behind a one-way mirror. | ||
Tessou | Posted: Aug 31 2010, 08:07 PM |
More NEGATIVE than a black hole Group: ADMINISTRATOR Posts: 19,345 Member No.: 12,263 Joined: Sep 12th 2005 Location: Update Profile | That example you posted there was because the mod in question wasn't comfortable being labeled as "the guy that banned him". It ended up making it look like I was the guy that did it even though I was away at the time, but we have rectified the issue there. Anonymous warns are not the norm for staff anymore. |
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Möbius | Posted: Sep 1 2010, 12:18 AM | ||||||
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Said person is not fit for the position then.
See why it is a problem?
2 warns issued yesterday, one of them was Perry, the other was anonymous. That points to it being the norm. Those are just facts, you don't have to defend against them. | ||||||
Alex | Posted: Sep 1 2010, 08:00 AM | ||
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I don't see how that points to it being the norm. That's not even a proper sample. Realistically wouldn't you want several warns from several mods? They way you're doing it, if you had 2 samples from regular mods (not Perry) and one was anonymous, you somehow point to the anon as the majority. | ||
Möbius | Posted: Sep 1 2010, 09:02 AM |
IDW Top Poster Group: Advanced Members Posts: 33,844 Member No.: 3,524 Joined: Oct 2nd 2004 Location: Update Profile | Isn't one of them too many? |
BOZZ | Posted: Sep 1 2010, 09:08 AM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 28,412 Member No.: 1,414 Joined: Mar 9th 2004 Location: Update Profile | Well for one thing, that's a small a sample to use... |
Alex | Posted: Sep 1 2010, 11:54 AM |
OG Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 9,054 Member No.: 111 Joined: Nov 26th 2002 Location: Atlanta | Y'know, it's not their fault for using a feature given to them. If one's too many it wouldn't have been put there in the first place. |
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