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Posted by: kyonpalm Jun 5 2015, 04:25 PM
This post will be covering a few changes both major and minor made to the forums in the past couple weeks. First order of business is the last set of staff changes: the mod team. I'll tell you here pretty much exactly what I told all involved parties this past week:

As you may have heard in the other announcement thread, we're doing a lot of restructuring with the mod/admin team lately. As we are looking to downsize the team, we will be letting a few of the older mods go in place of new ones. The old team consisted of...

kyonpalm
Lebon14
OkamiWind
sideways
Spaz

The way the forums are with activity now, we really only need maybe four moderators covering all the forums (which works nicely as we have two admins, so that's basically two moderators per admin which is an ideal ratio). So, since we have two new mods lined up, we have to make way for the shuffle. I'm already nixed as mod since I've become admin, so we only need to move two current moderators out for the new ones. We've spent the last few weeks in hard deliberation over who to let onto the new team, and we're finally ready to make the call.

We've come to decide that Lebon14 and sideways will be making way for Kiroshino and Miura Seri. Here's hoping the new mod melting pot jives well. Don't be too hard on the new guys.

That's the big news. The little news is a few other minor changes. Here's what's new...

• Avatar size limit upgraded from 100x100 to 150x150
• Creation of Special Snowflake user subgroup for everyone else who wants to be different (more changes regarding such clubs in the near future)
• New user ranks/titles (see https://idforums.net/index.php?act=boardrules for more)
• Updated rules regarding street racing in the Automotive Section specifying targeting of personal street racing videos for the purpose of bragging

That's about it. Voice your opinions/grievances here, be heard.

Posted by: Seri Jun 5 2015, 04:35 PM
Thanks, Kyon, I'll do my best!

I owe you all a lot, and I hope to return the favor as I take up this position.

Posted by: Möbius Jun 5 2015, 04:42 PM
QUOTE
Avatar size limit upgraded from 100x100 to 150x150


Long time needed. Is there an increase in file size coming as well? There's a lot of users who have huge images/gifs that break current limits...

QUOTE
• Creation of Special Snowflake user subgroup for everyone else who wants to be different (more changes regarding such clubs in the near future)


No comment

QUOTE
• New user ranks/titles (see Forum Guidelines for more)


Missed mine in the last, but it's kind of like in Highlander, there can only be one! :B

QUOTE
• Updated rules regarding street racing in the Automotive Section specifying targeting of personal street racing videos for the purpose of bragging


I thought that was there already.

Posted by: Tessou Jun 5 2015, 04:43 PM
The selection process, from interview to final decision, was one of the most difficult things for us to go through. Everybody that was part of this, know that you all had very strong cases and received quality time in the discussion. Ultimately, only two could make the cut. We were going to make the change alongside Perry's step-down, but decided to take a bit more time to deliberate.

To our new moderators, welcome. Kyon and I will be here to help you get used to your new digs. smile.gif

Posted by: kyonpalm Jun 5 2015, 04:48 PM
QUOTE (Möbius @ 1 minute, 39 seconds ago)
Missed mine in the last, but it's kind of like in Highlander, there can only be one! :B

That's the point!

QUOTE (Möbius @ 1 minute, 39 seconds ago)
I thought that was there already.

For comparison, the original rule read as such:

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• Videos of illegal street racing are prohibited. Posting a video depicting dangerous/reckless driving behavior will result in an actual warning.


As it was before, people could get warned simply for posting a video like this:

YOUTUBE ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Vcx3zRE-0 )


The point of the rule is to keep people from bragging about their own illegal activity on the forums. It'd be silly to try and stop people from posting others' street racing videos for the sake of discussion.

Posted by: Möbius Jun 5 2015, 04:54 PM
QUOTE
The way the forums are with activity now, we really only need maybe four moderators covering all the forums (which works nicely as we have two admins, so that's basically two moderators per admin which is an ideal ratio).


No dig, if that's what works, then that's what works, only throwing this out there since the words "ideal ratio" were used. In most cases ( i.e. any hierchial team envirnonment ) it would be somewhere 4-8 to 1.

Again, just some real world numbers, in your case it would still be applicable as you are the admin to take care of the mods, while Tessou is the behind the scenes admin.

Just wanted to correct the way it was presented. cool.gif

Posted by: Nomake Wan Jun 5 2015, 05:08 PM
Congrats to Kiroshino and Miura for the green badges!

Posted by: Möbius Jun 5 2015, 05:27 PM
QUOTE (Nomake Wan @ 19 minutes, 9 seconds ago)
Congrats to Kiroshino and Miura for the green badges!

Forgot that part...

Congrats guys!

And a salute to the mod with the longest stint, Sideways! cool.gif

Posted by: BOZZ Jun 5 2015, 09:38 PM
Congrats to the new moderators!

It's going to be different seeing Sideways without the green text.

Posted by: Falbere Jun 5 2015, 09:45 PM
THe best part of this thread is when kyonpalm posts his favourite Smokey Supra moments as an example.

Posted by: tsukikomi Jun 5 2015, 10:09 PM
QUOTE (kyonpalm @ 5 hours, 43 minutes ago)
We've spent the last few weeks in hard deliberation over who to let onto the new team, and we're finally ready to make the call.

Makes me wonder, How much discussing did you have to go threw to not mod me or falbere? Not that we care or anything. unsure.gif

Posted by: APX Jun 5 2015, 10:33 PM
Interesting.

Posted by: Tessou Jun 6 2015, 02:42 AM
QUOTE (tsukikomi @ 4 hours, 32 minutes ago)
Makes me wonder, How much discussing did you have to go threw to not mod me or falbere? Not that we care or anything. unsure.gif

You were not considered. I don't think there needs to be a discussion as to why.

The mods chosen were regarded as the best options out of everybody considered.

Posted by: Kiroshino Jun 6 2015, 04:54 AM
Oh, wow. Didn't even notice. XD

Nor did I think I would be selected. Since I have, I'll do my best. happy.gif


Posted by: Möbius Jun 6 2015, 05:24 AM
Part III of these threads will be interesting. smile.gif

Posted by: THE_HONDA_CG2 Jun 6 2015, 07:07 AM
Aw congratulations guys! I'm really happy to see that things are moving along. I'm excited to see what we have lined up next.

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Posted by: Rudy Jun 6 2015, 09:07 AM
Literally what?

Um, conrgrats Kiro. I had no clue you were even interested.

Congrats to you too Mirua.

I'd like to turn in my pony badge now and go back to being a purple text, if that's okay.

Posted by: tsukikomi Jun 6 2015, 09:35 AM
QUOTE (Tessou @ 6 hours, 53 minutes ago)
You were not considered. I don't think there needs to be a discussion as to why.

The mods chosen were regarded as the best options out of everybody considered.

If I wasn't thought of then, then at least I am now. tongue.gif

Posted by: Rudy Jun 6 2015, 10:13 AM
So does this now mean that insane drifter guy from Georgia will no longer earn me a red star? Because insane as it is, it is some properly amazing driving.

Posted by: Möbius Jun 6 2015, 10:17 AM
QUOTE (Rudy @ 4 minutes, 19 seconds ago)
So does this now mean that insane drifter guy from Georgia will no longer earn me a red star? Because insane as it is, it is some properly amazing driving.

My take on it is that as long as it's not your own recording, it's OK now? confused2.gif

Posted by: Rudy Jun 6 2015, 10:20 AM
Seems to be that way.

Posted by: APX Jun 6 2015, 10:23 AM
No, just no.

Posted by: Tessou Jun 6 2015, 10:24 AM
QUOTE (Rudy @ 10 minutes, 53 seconds ago)
So does this now mean that insane drifter guy from Georgia will no longer earn me a red star? Because insane as it is, it is some properly amazing driving.

As I interpret the change in the rule, no, it won't earn you a warning. If it's not you in the video, it's kosher.

Posted by: Rudy Jun 6 2015, 10:31 AM
Thanks Tessou - or whoever fixed my profile.

Posted by: Tessou Jun 6 2015, 10:32 AM
QUOTE (Rudy @ 1 minute, 19 seconds ago)
Thanks Tessou - or whoever fixed my profile.

It was me. smile.gif

Posted by: APX Jun 6 2015, 10:44 AM
How goes the group discussion?

Posted by: Tessou Jun 6 2015, 10:48 AM
Plans are in motion. Kyon and I will be rolling out the official criteria for starting special member groups very soon.

Posted by: Rudy Jun 6 2015, 11:02 AM
QUOTE (Rudy @ 1 hour, 55 minutes ago)
Literally what?

Um, conrgrats Kiro. I had no clue you were even interested.

Congrats to you too Mirua.

I'd like to turn in my pony badge now and go back to being a purple text, if that's okay.

Disregard the last statement, I inhale dongs.

Posted by: Tessou Jun 6 2015, 11:05 AM
Done and done.

Posted by: Rudy Jun 6 2015, 11:07 AM
Can I ask an honest question?

Posted by: Möbius Jun 6 2015, 11:33 AM
QUOTE (Rudy @ 25 minutes, 41 seconds ago)
Can I ask an honest question?

Would you want to ask a dishonest one? laugh2.gif

Posted by: Rudy Jun 6 2015, 12:08 PM
As opposed to a faseeshus question.

Anyway, other than say, dedicated fanclubs or such, what other purpose would special member groups serve in a forum where roughly a dozen people post actively? It's not like we have half a hundred regulars here.

Posted by: Kiroshino Jun 6 2015, 03:06 PM
QUOTE (Rudy @ 5 hours, 59 minutes ago)
Um, conrgrats Kiro. I had no clue you were even interested.

I wasn't. When I was notified about my nomination, I actually rejected it. Imagine my surprise.

But yeah, curious about special member groups. Like Rudy has said, we do have to somehow increase traffic to this forum.

Posted by: kyonpalm Jun 6 2015, 04:58 PM
QUOTE (Rudy @ 4 hours, 50 minutes ago)
Anyway, other than say, dedicated fanclubs or such, what other purpose would special member groups serve in a forum where roughly a dozen people post actively? It's not like we have half a hundred regulars here.

None, really. The idea is to let people have some fun. It's not hurting anyone, so why not?

Posted by: Rudy Jun 6 2015, 05:18 PM
I can swing with that. I'm just trying to avoid a situation where the only people left who are "normal" members are lurkers.

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Posted by: Möbius Jun 6 2015, 05:27 PM
QUOTE (Rudy @ 9 minutes, 48 seconds ago)
I can swing with that. I'm just trying to avoid a situation where the only people left who are "normal" members are lurkers.

Well, there will be an enrollment process, it's not like anyone just makes one and it's there.

Posted by: APX Jun 6 2015, 05:44 PM
Seems non mod staff are in the know, how does this happen.

Posted by: Möbius Jun 6 2015, 05:46 PM
QUOTE (APX @ 2 minutes, 12 seconds ago)
Seems non mod staff are in the know, how does this happen.

It was posted earlier in the thread. laugh2.gif

Posted by: THE_HONDA_CG2 Jun 6 2015, 05:51 PM
Can I start a Keisuke fan club? I'll be the president and probably the only member. laugh.gif

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Posted by: Lebon14 Jun 6 2015, 06:13 PM
Congrats to the ones who got the badge.

And, yes, I'm back to an ordinary member. I wasn't doing much as a mod anyway. No regrets.

Posted by: kyonpalm Jun 6 2015, 06:14 PM
QUOTE (THE_HONDA_CG2 @ 22 minutes, 42 seconds ago)
Can I start a Keisuke fan club? I'll be the president and probably the only member. laugh.gif

Yes.

QUOTE (Lebon14 @ 20 seconds ago)
Congrats to the ones who got the badge.

And, yes, I'm back to an ordinary member. I wasn't doing much as a mod anyway. No regrets.

Thanks for your service.

Posted by: APX Jun 6 2015, 07:13 PM
I'm shocked and outraged that I wasn't a candidate for a mod position.

/sarcasm.

Posted by: Möbius Jun 6 2015, 07:22 PM
QUOTE (APX @ 9 minutes, 7 seconds ago)
I'm shocked and outraged that I wasn't a candidate for a mod position.

/sarcasm.

APX for mod '16! apxrock.gif

Posted by: Rudy Jun 6 2015, 07:29 PM
I would say the joke's getting old, but the sad truth is I still occasionally need sarcasm tags to differentiate faseeshusness from seriousness.

Posted by: APX Jun 6 2015, 07:36 PM
Like how to remove yourself from a group?

Posted by: Kiroshino Jun 6 2015, 07:41 PM
QUOTE (APX @ 4 minutes, 48 seconds ago)
Like how to remove yourself from a group?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+remove+myself+from+group
http://www.lfg.co/

Posted by: Tessou Jun 6 2015, 07:55 PM
He asked to be removed from the group because he thought the MLP Fan group was always some sort of condescending joke. It's not. I smoothed over the misunderstanding earlier today and re-added him to the group. Simple as that.

As for creating other groups: we will make them happen if there's enough demand. APX wants his own group? It will happen.

Posted by: Rudy Jun 6 2015, 09:17 PM
Yes, the whole MLP fangroup and what caused me to lose faith in it is a level of irony not measurable by ordinary devices. awesome.gif

Posted by: tsukikomi Jun 6 2015, 10:06 PM
QUOTE (Tessou @ 2 hours, 10 minutes ago)
He asked to be removed from the group because he thought the MLP Fan group was always some sort of condescending joke. It's not. I smoothed over the misunderstanding earlier today and re-added him to the group. Simple as that.

As for creating other groups: we will make them happen if there's enough demand. APX wants his own group? It will happen.

Trap club!! w00t2.gif

Still need to find more members though.

Posted by: Tessou Jun 6 2015, 10:12 PM
Find at least three. I already know who those three are.

Posted by: APX Jun 6 2015, 10:22 PM
kyon, failbere and rudy?

Posted by: tsukikomi Jun 6 2015, 10:30 PM
QUOTE (APX @ 7 minutes, 45 seconds ago)
kyon, failbere and rudy?

Me n falbere would be queens of this club. Yeah lets make kyon n rudy members. ^.^

Posted by: Nomake Wan Jun 6 2015, 10:35 PM
If it were hosted by someone else and had a different philosophy I would considering being a part of it. As-written I'm good being a No Brand Hero.

Posted by: tsukikomi Jun 6 2015, 10:36 PM
QUOTE (Nomake Wan @ 1 minute, 18 seconds ago)
If it were hosted by someone else and had a different philosophy I would considering being a part of it. As-written I'm good being a No Brand Hero.

Whats wrong with me?

Posted by: Nomake Wan Jun 6 2015, 10:40 PM
Too attention-grabby. Unclear agenda. Incapable of perceiving aspect ratios. We're just not compatible, dear. wink2.gif

Posted by: APX Jun 6 2015, 10:48 PM
Got eemm

Posted by: tsukikomi Jun 6 2015, 10:52 PM
QUOTE (Nomake Wan @ 12 minutes, 29 seconds ago)
Too attention-grabby. Unclear agenda. Incapable of perceiving aspect ratios. We're just not compatible, dear. wink2.gif

But in the end that wouldn't matter. please.gif

Posted by: APX Jun 6 2015, 11:06 PM
QUOTE (tsukikomi @ 14 minutes, 2 seconds ago)
But in the end that wouldn't matter. please.gif

And that's why trap club will not exist on the forum.

awesome.gif awesome.gif awesome.gif

Posted by: tsukikomi Jun 6 2015, 11:39 PM
QUOTE (APX @ 33 minutes, 3 seconds ago)
And that's why trap club will not exist on the forum.

awesome.gif awesome.gif awesome.gif

chair.gif

Posted by: Falbere Jun 7 2015, 04:05 AM
;_;
I demand a trap club!!!
I can make the banner if you guys really don't wanna.
I just need the font template, and the color tsuki likes.

Posted by: Seri Jun 7 2015, 06:01 AM
Well, not like I can help either, Tsuki. My badge prevents that.

Posted by: Kiroshino Jun 7 2015, 06:04 AM
Me neither.

Wait... that was the plan all along, wasn't it? tongue.gif

Posted by: kyonpalm Jun 7 2015, 06:46 AM
QUOTE (Falbere @ 2 hours, 41 minutes ago)
;_;
I demand a trap club!!!
I can make the banner if you guys really don't wanna.
I just need the font template, and the color tsuki likes.

WE'RE WORKING ON IT, GOSH DARN IT.

Posted by: Möbius Jun 7 2015, 07:26 AM
QUOTE (Nomake Wan @ 8 hours, 51 minutes ago)
If it were hosted by someone else and had a different philosophy I would considering being a part of it. As-written I'm good being a No Brand Hero.

That's a good group to begin with. cool.gif

There as interesting question though, how would mods/admins being part of groups work? Multiple groups?

Posted by: tsukikomi Jun 7 2015, 09:24 AM
QUOTE (Falbere @ 5 hours, 19 minutes ago)
;_;
I demand a trap club!!!
I can make the banner if you guys really don't wanna.
I just need the font template, and the color tsuki likes.

What did you had in mind? I always like fuschia wub.gif

Posted by: Kiroshino Jun 7 2015, 10:07 AM
QUOTE (Möbius @ 2 hours, 40 minutes ago)
There as interesting question though, how would mods/admins being part of groups work? Multiple groups?

I haven't been an admin for a long time, but if I remember correctly, these are just user permission groups for access to different areas of the forum. If you can't make a user a part of multiple user groups, you can probably give individual users access to group areas. It's harder to manage, but doable in small quantities.

Posted by: Möbius Jun 7 2015, 11:46 AM
QUOTE (Kiroshino @ 1 hour, 38 minutes ago)
I haven't been an admin for a long time, but if I remember correctly, these are just user permission groups for access to different areas of the forum. If you can't make a user a part of multiple user groups, you can probably give individual users access to group areas. It's harder to manage, but doable in small quantities.

I was thinking more of the badges than anything else. A moderator would have a mod badge and the group badge?

Posted by: Kiroshino Jun 7 2015, 03:27 PM
That might be possible. I've never tried that before.

Posted by: APX Jun 7 2015, 04:05 PM
Or make it more of a 'select one' type of deal, where you are a member of said group/groups but can only be allowed to show it off on the badge, as the rest will be in a signature (somewhat like the awards were, but just text, no fancy image)

Posted by: Rudy Jun 7 2015, 04:20 PM
I'll accept and join the trap club if both A:

-Kyonpalm heads the group and

B:

-Tsukikomi accepts me as Atlantic Highway E

awesome.gif

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Posted by: Nomake Wan Jun 7 2015, 04:50 PM
>Kyonpalm
>Traps

Other than a classic like Hibari-kun, I don't think that's his thing...

>Atlantic Highway E
Atlantic Highway E Grand Ace Original

Posted by: Rudy Jun 7 2015, 04:51 PM
Okay Nomake, you lost me yet again.

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Posted by: kyonpalm Jun 7 2015, 06:08 PM
QUOTE (Nomake Wan @ 1 hour, 18 minutes ago)
>Kyonpalm
>Traps

Other than a classic like Hibari-kun, I don't think that's his thing...

I don't own two Abgrund books for nothing. :^)

Posted by: Tessou Jun 7 2015, 06:14 PM
Perry already explored multiple badges. No.

Otherwise I'd be in three at once.

Posted by: APX Jun 7 2015, 06:50 PM
That's not what I was suggesting tess tess

Posted by: Falbere Jun 7 2015, 06:56 PM
QUOTE (kyonpalm @ Yesterday, 10:46 PM)
WE'RE WORKING ON IT, GOSH DARN IT.

Sorry ;-; I didn't know.

Posted by: Nomake Wan Jun 7 2015, 07:01 PM
QUOTE (kyonpalm @ 52 minutes, 57 seconds ago)
I don't own two Abgrund books for nothing. :^)

Oh shit I forgot about that! ohmy.gif

(Abgrund please come back to the trap side, we miss you so much ;-; )

Posted by: tsukikomi Jun 7 2015, 07:56 PM
QUOTE (Rudy @ 3 hours, 36 minutes ago)
I'll accept and join the trap club if both A:

-Kyonpalm heads the group and

B:

-Tsukikomi accepts me as Atlantic Highway E

awesome.gif

And together we'll be Tukwila Station Access RD & S Longacres Way derp.gif

Posted by: Möbius Jun 7 2015, 11:26 PM
QUOTE (Tessou @ 5 hours, 11 minutes ago)
Perry already explored multiple badges. No.

Otherwise I'd be in three at once.

What's the third one? confused2.gif

Posted by: Falbere Jun 8 2015, 12:06 AM
Cult of Tessou
Administrator
MLP Fans

Posted by: Rudy Jun 11 2015, 10:50 PM
QUOTE (BOZZ @ Jun 6 2015, 12:38 AM)
Congrats to the new moderators!

It's going to be different seeing Sideways without the green text.

All you have to do is imagine a right bracket before his name.

Posted by: Möbius Jun 24 2015, 01:20 PM
Is part three coming soon? cool.gif

Posted by: Tessou Jun 24 2015, 01:43 PM
For what purpose?

Posted by: Möbius Jun 24 2015, 01:44 PM
QUOTE (Tessou @ 55 seconds ago)
For what purpose?

For completing the trilogy. cool.gif

Posted by: kyonpalm Jun 24 2015, 02:30 PM
QUOTE (Möbius @ 45 minutes, 56 seconds ago)
For completing the trilogy. cool.gif

Sorry McFly, this story was just a two-parter. :^)

Posted by: Möbius Jun 24 2015, 02:45 PM
QUOTE (kyonpalm @ 15 minutes, 20 seconds ago)
Sorry McFly, this story was just a two-parter. :^)

But I got my popcorn and stuff already... facepalm.gif

Posted by: kyonpalm Jun 24 2015, 02:48 PM
QUOTE (Möbius @ 2 minutes, 40 seconds ago)
But I got my popcorn and stuff already...  facepalm.gif

What stuff? wink3.gif

Posted by: Möbius Jun 24 2015, 03:08 PM
QUOTE (kyonpalm @ 19 minutes, 59 seconds ago)
What stuff? wink3.gif

Erm...

3-D glasses? awesome.gif

Posted by: Tessou Jun 24 2015, 03:11 PM
The only announcement I can see coming right now is regarding member groups, but that isn't a change of hats, so it won't be a trilogy.

Posted by: Rudy Jun 24 2015, 08:26 PM
Thus, it wouldn't be a hat trick either. Ah well. Bring on the Shemale Club. Er, i mean Trap Club.

Posted by: Tessou Jun 24 2015, 08:49 PM
That and I'm thinking of creating an "Auto Guru" group so bonafide wrench guys can have a certificate of authenticity on display.

Posted by: Rudy Jun 24 2015, 08:55 PM
Jeez, that would be tough for me to decide between that and Pony Fanatics

Posted by: BOZZ Jun 24 2015, 09:01 PM
QUOTE (kyonpalm @ 6 hours, 31 minutes ago)
Sorry McFly, this story was just a two-parter. :^)

Ha ha, I just watched BTTF earlier today! w00t2.gif

Posted by: APX Jun 24 2015, 09:16 PM
rip my group.

Posted by: Tessou Jun 24 2015, 09:56 PM
It is coming.

Posted by: Nomake Wan Jun 25 2015, 04:23 AM
QUOTE (Möbius @ Yesterday, 4:08 PM)
Erm...

3-D glasses? awesome.gif

user posted image

Posted by: Möbius Jun 25 2015, 04:47 PM
This is a situation where the "Like" button would have been best utilized. smile.gif

Posted by: Kiroshino Jun 25 2015, 05:23 PM
QUOTE (Möbius @ 36 minutes, 15 seconds ago)
This is a situation where the "Like" button would have been best utilized. smile.gif

But if we had a "Like" button, quality posts like yours might start disappearing. ohmy.gif

Posted by: Rudy Jun 25 2015, 05:27 PM
That is true. On the flip side, there wouldn't be constant reminders of the like button (or even a kudos/karma/thanks system) not beino present. tongue.gif

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Posted by: Kiroshino Jun 25 2015, 05:30 PM
But that makes up a significant amount of the daily posts! tongue.gif

Posted by: Möbius Jun 25 2015, 05:34 PM
QUOTE (Kiroshino @ 10 minutes, 15 seconds ago)
But if we had a "Like" button, quality posts like yours might start disappearing. ohmy.gif

Everyone knows the Moby goes for quantity over quality! awesome.gif

Posted by: Rudy Jun 25 2015, 05:34 PM
I thought that was 2.5RS DEMON.

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Posted by: Smikey Jun 27 2015, 01:00 PM
user posted image

Posted by: Möbius Jun 27 2015, 03:39 PM
QUOTE (Smikey @ 2 hours, 39 minutes ago)
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9nXEtq78wI4/hqdefault.jpg

Now that was priceless. laugh2.gif

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