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> About the MR2
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  Posted: Jul 20 2003, 07:30 AM


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One of my friend is about to buy a car and he would like to know if:

1- Buying a 91-95 Toyota MR2 is good. Could you give some infos about the pros/cons/anything about this car

2- Is this car any good for drifting since almost all of the weight is in the rear (engine and RWD)

Thanks for the infos! biggrin.gif

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Posted: Jul 20 2003, 11:33 AM


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i have seen a stock MR2 drift before, but the driver said its not easy to drift it because it is back heavy.

the good thing about the MR2 is that its got good power in the turbo version, 200hp i think it is.

i havent researched it since like a year ago when i was looking for a car though so i kinda forgot all the specs and pros and cons. go to www.edmunds.com and look for it, you can see all the specs there i believe.
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Posted: Jul 20 2003, 11:48 AM


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yeah the mr2 is a good car...it had toe and camber problems in the earlier models that made it slide very easily....it was fixed in 93 so that would be the best year...its also hard to find turbo models without extras like t tops and stuff....so a na might be a better choice...a new turbo and new suspension and it will kill in driftin and dragging
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MR2 is a very good car. The engine is in the middle of the car, not the rear, just like an F1 racer. So the car handles extremely well, and should be able to drift just fine. Also the turbo makes the car pretty quick. It is a nice car to have.
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The SW20's are grip monsters. You shouldn't be drifting with it in the first place. The MR set up makes it perfect for racing and the turbo version has a lot of hp, more like 250 (that could be JDM specs though =p). You don't want to try and drift it seeing as it is very touchy andwill most likely spin out.

It is a good race car, but not a good drift car.

If you want a good drifting car get a 240SX, 89-93 would be the bestest.


P.S. T-Tops=bestest!

A little side note, the JGTC Supra's use the same engine as the SW20's happy.gif

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it does i thought it used the corolla rally car engine....the sw20 engine is straight four and the supra is an l four it hought...hmm yeah mr2 are very touchy drift cars go witha 240 sil swap save money and a good car
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QUOTE (Jayson @ Jul 23 2003, 12:23 PM)


A little side note, the JGTC Supra's use the same engine as the SW20's happy.gif

They don't anymore, they recently changed it up and equip naturally aspirated Toyota V8 engines from the Lexus SC 430 into the Supras. Same with the Skylines, they're using VQ engines from the 350z now in the JGTC.

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QUOTE (Jayson @ Jul 23 2003, 12:23 PM)
The SW20's are grip monsters. You shouldn't be drifting with it in the first place. The MR set up makes it perfect for racing and the turbo version has a lot of hp, more like 250 (that could be JDM specs though =p). You don't want to try and drift it seeing as it is very touchy andwill most likely spin out.

It is a good race car, but not a good drift car.

If you want a good drifting car get a 240SX, 89-93 would be the bestest.


P.S. T-Tops=bestest!

A little side note, the JGTC Supra's use the same engine as the SW20's happy.gif

I've got a 1984 pontiac fiero, and it has the same layout as an MR2, and yes it is a very good grip car, but it can also drift, and there are some corners in which it is either faster to drift, or that you can't take at high speeds unless you drift, and I am able to drift it just fine I live in south dakota right now, and there are plenty of roads to drift on in the black hills. The hard part is initiating the drift, it's not the same as a FR, because of how the car is balanced, but it will drift without any problems once you figure out how to do it, and since the MR2 has much more power than my 92 hp fiero, it should be able to drift much easier than my car.
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I thought that the added stability from the MR layout made drift control easier...?
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QUOTE (IceGT @ Jul 24 2003, 11:45 AM)
QUOTE (Jayson @ Jul 23 2003, 12:23 PM)
The SW20's are grip monsters. You shouldn't be drifting with it in the first place. The MR set up makes it perfect for racing and the turbo version has a lot of hp, more like 250 (that could be JDM specs though =p). You don't want to try and drift it seeing as it is very touchy andwill most likely spin out.

It is a good race car, but not a good drift car.

If you want a good drifting car get a 240SX, 89-93 would be the bestest.


P.S. T-Tops=bestest!

A little side note, the JGTC Supra's use the same engine as the SW20's happy.gif

I've got a 1984 pontiac fiero, and it has the same layout as an MR2, and yes it is a very good grip car, but it can also drift, and there are some corners in which it is either faster to drift, or that you can't take at high speeds unless you drift, and I am able to drift it just fine I live in south dakota right now, and there are plenty of roads to drift on in the black hills. The hard part is initiating the drift, it's not the same as a FR, because of how the car is balanced, but it will drift without any problems once you figure out how to do it, and since the MR2 has much more power than my 92 hp fiero, it should be able to drift much easier than my car.

Please, don't compare your Fiero to an Mr2. Not even in the same class. I don't see people comparing MR2's and NSX's, juss because they are in the same 'class'.

Also, The MR2 rear end breaks out rather easily, and that's why it's not for novice drivers. If you don't know how to handle it, you will spin out. Or crash. Or both.
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QUOTE (Jayson @ Jul 23 2003, 03:23 PM)
The SW20's are grip monsters. You shouldn't be drifting with it in the first place. The MR set up makes it perfect for racing and the turbo version has a lot of hp, more like 250 (that could be JDM specs though =p). You don't want to try and drift it seeing as it is very touchy andwill most likely spin out.

It is a good race car, but not a good drift car.

If you want a good drifting car get a 240SX, 89-93 would be the bestest.


P.S. T-Tops=bestest!

A little side note, the JGTC Supra's use the same engine as the SW20's happy.gif

Yeah, they use 3s-gte's Inline 4's, that way they can push the engine back further in the engine bay and get better 50/50 weight distrubution. Crazy, eh? laugh.gif
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yeah but the earlier models had camber issues that werent solved until 93 this made the car very easy to spin out and very easy to not grip under hard drviing so watch what model you buy
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QUOTE (IntegraToast @ Jul 25 2003, 12:18 PM)
yeah but the earlier models had camber issues that werent solved until 93 this made the car very easy to spin out and very easy to not grip under hard drviing so watch what model you buy

Yeah, and 93+ Came w/ LSD
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I was just trying to make the point that the MR2 can, be drifted, I wasn't trying to compare the two cars.
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Posted: Aug 1 2003, 08:23 AM


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yes..... the mr2 (sw20) can drift with no problem.... it can be seen at this site....... www.brisbaneperformance.com/video.php ......the very last race clip on that list is with keiichi tsuchiya commercial drifitng the white s14 (used on initial d first stage) and a silver sw20 with black roof.....yes and yes sw20 mr2s can drift like how it drifts on initial d the movie......its engine has never been an issue... it was all about WEIGHT SHIFTING TECHNIQUE

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Posted: Aug 1 2003, 11:23 AM


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the site dont work, and yes we all know the mr2 can drift but it takes a highly skilled driver
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the mr2 is not a beginners car at all!
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again......... on the first last clip of this race movie clips show you the mr2 doing one swift drift by the drift king keiichi tsuchiya......... here is the site address.... remember it is the very last movie clip.........

www.brisbaneperformance.com/video.php
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but thats the drift king...a beginer will spin out an mr2 and prolly die
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Posted: Aug 1 2003, 03:09 PM


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From what I understand of the mr2, because the center of gravity is pretty much dead center in the car at a 50/50 ratio, then to initiate a drift in an mr2, the breaking technique would work best. Because when you apply the breaks, the weight suddently shifts forward in the car and thus allows better grip on the steering tires and will also loosen the grip of the rear tires allowing it to slide out. so... I suppose you'd want to find yourself the largest empty obstacle free parkinglot in the world, and then try and figure out how its done safely.


the mark2 mr2 turbo is my dream car and I can't wait to get one.... *sigh* it'll be a while though.. gotta finish university so I can afford it with a real job.

mmm biggrin.gif imagine an mr2 with the likes of an rx-7 fc engine! *yum!* you'd have so many advantages in a drag... though you'd probably have a bit to much power for the likes of drifting... .well, drifting with any control at anyrate... but you'd still have a buletproof engine.

By the way! Hi everyone I'm new! ^^;

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an the 13bt would be nice in a mr2 but it would be hell converting the drivetrains..heh.

and the thing wif drifting the MR2 is that the engine is in the rear so when you start to drift, it would probably be hard to stop sliding and start drifting cuz of inertia...the weight of the engine would wanna continue to go sideways...I dunno..that's just what I think


welcome to the boards...thank GOD you know how to use the edit button..ahha.

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...but a MR car, with the weight in the rear, can regain it's grip easily by lifting off the throttle a little.

Why a Fiero isn't of the same class as a MR2? In '86 they already had a Fiero with 240 hp (V6 engine)! I know a guy that got one, and his car kick ass (plus he got his for dirt cheap, the bastard). That car hit 140 km/h in 3rd gear, and it's lightning quick at that.

Also the MR2 MK1 was a great handling car, underpowered but still a very cool car to throw around corners. The newer MR2s are heavier and larger, a MK1 with a better engine and suspension can outperform them... If i was able to get a MR2, i would lean more toward the MK1 (i like boxy little car more it seem).
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SW20 all the way!