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xsleepydrifterx | Posted: Aug 5 2009, 09:56 PM |
IDW Prime Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 692 Member No.: 15,536 Joined: Jan 23rd 2006 Location: Update Profile | wow man you really think everything is a waste. well a corolla is a waste altogether then. everyone knows that. the 20v came with my car so i dont care. it has different characteristics than the 16. people do 16/20 swaps or 16v with 20v blacktop itbs. its all about what you want to do. 20v's are not a waste. |
Yoshida Seiji | Posted: Aug 6 2009, 05:44 AM |
IDW Goldmember Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,568 Member No.: 23,634 Joined: Mar 16th 2007 Location: Update Profile | Very off topic. But 20v's aren't worth it. You go ahead and fully build your motor. You'll end up spending 10-20k for a 200-300hp motor. Where as I'll spend half of that on a boosted 16v and make MORE power than that. And way more reliably no less. |
xsleepydrifterx | Posted: Aug 6 2009, 08:36 AM |
IDW Prime Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 692 Member No.: 15,536 Joined: Jan 23rd 2006 Location: Update Profile | lol. i dont even want 300 hp. i will leave it with balance around 160. and well tsuchiya has a blacktop in his gtv, and he does extremely well. cant argue with them im sure his mechanics know why more about the motors than we do. one 4ag is not superior over the other, just different characteristics. thats all i have to say |
HorizontalMitsubishi | Posted: Aug 6 2009, 01:24 PM |
Part of the Tessou Signature Series Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,439 Member No.: 2,022 Joined: Jun 16th 2004 Location: Torrance California | Well last time I checked the 20v wasn't smog legal here in the states. This post has been edited by sidewaysstarion on Aug 6 2009, 01:25 PM |
xsleepydrifterx | Posted: Aug 6 2009, 01:47 PM |
IDW Prime Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 692 Member No.: 15,536 Joined: Jan 23rd 2006 Location: Update Profile | you are correct. somehwat. all i have to comment on that is that my car was just registered for 2010. This post has been edited by xsleepydrifterx on Aug 6 2009, 01:47 PM |
HorizontalMitsubishi | Posted: Aug 6 2009, 06:49 PM |
Part of the Tessou Signature Series Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,439 Member No.: 2,022 Joined: Jun 16th 2004 Location: Torrance California | but the topic is about making your car faster while keeping it smog legel. if you got pulled over and they checked you hood you would get a nice fat ticket. |
sideways | Posted: Aug 6 2009, 07:15 PM | ||
We're the People's Front of Judea! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 13,123 Member No.: 1,355 Joined: Feb 28th 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | Yoshida, i have to say- i STRONGLY disagree with you. Not worth it? In what sense? Without hook ups and some smart shopping you can get a 20v swapped in for about 1k. You will be hard pressed to get an na 16v to perform on the level of a stock 20v (In the neighborhood if 130-140 whp) for only 1000 bucks. Plus i have the nice advantage of running stock electronics, vvt, meaning i can daily it easily and still get damn near 40 mpg. Unless of course youre talking about boosting a 16v, or were keeping on topic and talking about street legal goodness, but thats a different can of worms. Maybe you brought this up elsewhere however and i missed it (in which case i apologize), but your blunt statement of "a 20v isnt worth it"? Meh.
Can you cite some sources for this? Or hell, even a hypothetical build up and expected price list? Because 10-20k for 200 hp- im claiming utter bull shit on this one. This post has been edited by sideways on Aug 6 2009, 07:21 PM | ||
Yoshida Seiji | Posted: Aug 7 2009, 05:33 AM |
IDW Goldmember Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,568 Member No.: 23,634 Joined: Mar 16th 2007 Location: Update Profile | I'm pretty sure I mentioned the 16v was boosted. I don't do any of that NA shit. At any rate, I will be posting up my 16v build here pretty soon. So you guys can see everything then. |
sideways | Posted: Aug 7 2009, 12:30 PM | ||
We're the People's Front of Judea! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 13,123 Member No.: 1,355 Joined: Feb 28th 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada |
Ya.. well... im a lazy reader at times Thats different, like knives and stabbing weapons. | ||
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