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> Fram oil filters, Why I don't recommend them.
MattW
Posted: May 28 2012, 12:13 PM


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Mann-Hummel or bust.
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  Posted: May 28 2012, 03:35 PM


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Posted: May 28 2012, 03:51 PM


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QUOTE (Demon Boost @ 15 minutes, 42 seconds ago)
Mann-who? What are you going on about now? ermm2.gif

probably some chinese overseas filter that will end up imploding on it's self tongue.gif awesome.gif
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Posted: May 28 2012, 03:51 PM


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QUOTE (Demon Boost @ 16 minutes, 6 seconds ago)
Mann-who? What are you going on about now? ermm2.gif
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Posted: May 28 2012, 06:16 PM


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QUOTE (Demon Boost @ 1 hour, 43 minutes ago)
And yet another typical case of bringing a new subject into the discussion without taking the time or care to actually inform the masses just what it is in their own words.

Just like old times. derp.gif

We're talking about oil filters.

Common sense should tell you it's a damn oil filter company.
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Posted: May 28 2012, 06:36 PM


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QUOTE (MattW @ 20 minutes, 27 seconds ago)
We're talking about oil filters.

Common sense should tell you it's a damn oil filter company.

This.

Also, Demon, you've got this really bad tendency to expect everyone to hand explanations to you in every post. Please, for the love of god, try using Google instead of resorting to making off-putting posts when someone mentions something you've never heard of.
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Posted: May 28 2012, 10:28 PM


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Hate to gang up on Demon Boost, but.. Matt even provided an (near useless) link to his "German overseas filter that will end up imploding (sic.) on it's self". Lols! Givin' everyone the needle!

I personaly never worried about it, about as likely as getting caught in a hail storm. Happpens, but, its unlikely, you can hedge your bets with a premium filter, but that can fail, too.

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Posted: May 28 2012, 10:45 PM


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QUOTE (Mazda ina Ford guy @ 16 minutes, 43 seconds ago)
Hate to gang up on Demon Boost, but.. Matt even provided an (near useless) link to his "German overseas filter that will end up imploding (sic.) on it's self". Lols! Givin' everyone the needle!

I personaly never worried about it, about as likely as getting caught in a hail storm. Happpens, but, its unlikely, you can hedge your bets with a premium filter, but that can fail, too.

It was a link to hopefully let Dori realize he can use google to find any answer he so pleases.

Since he was too lazy to google it, I did it for him.
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Posted: May 29 2012, 08:02 AM


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QUOTE (Demon Boost @ 1 hour, 24 minutes ago)
The concept of a discussion board seems to fly right over your head, doesn't it, Matt?

Forums exist for the primary person of sharing information and 'pooling brainpower', figuratively speaking. As 'cool' as it is to post a sarcastic lmgtfy link for someone, it's also nearly as easy to explain it as you would in real life - laying out information in a manner that's easy to get to - as in, POSTED RIGHT THERE.

Or maybe I'm old fashioned; or perhaps everyone's just too lazy in this day and age and expects everyone else to do all the legwork for them when they bring up a hot-word. rolleyes.gif

Whatever, my opinion is in the minority on this discussion therefore it must not matter to anybody.

Forums exist for discussion, yes. And not everyone discusses things in the same manner. Some people use crazy and foreign concepts such as 'sarcasm' and 'humor' in their posts in the midst of serious discussion for mysterious things known only as 'lulz'.

And are you sure it's not the other way around, where you're the one that's too lazy to Google up some answers? It's 2012, dude. You're on the internet already, the answers to everything anyone ever posts here (and more!) are easily available via a couple clicks and keystrokes, which a lot of times makes lengthy explanations on these boards redundant and unnecessary. Sometimes you have to spell things out, yes, but doing so in every single post in every single thread is just a straight waste of time and bandwidth.

And here, he posted a brand-name. That's really hard to Google and research, for sure. So hard I even did it myself. derp.gif
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Posted: May 29 2012, 09:06 AM


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no, you're just wicked lazy and have no common sense.

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Posted: May 29 2012, 09:16 AM


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Let me try and break this down.

.People talk about oil-filters and oil-filter brands
.MattW says "Mann-Hummel or bust". I read this post before anyone responded to it and it was pretty obvious he was referring to an oil-filter brand named Mann-Hummel. And I hadn't even heard of the brand before. But anyway. . . .
.Drifter asks "Mann-Who?"
.MattW posts a let-me-google-that-for-you link
.Other stuff seems to come out of nowhere.

Anyway, just my suggestions:
.MattW. Post up some info about Mann-Hummel filters. Why you think they're good and so on.
.Both of you. Forget this ever happened. This thread would be a lot better if it went back to being about oil-filters. Please?

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Posted: May 29 2012, 09:39 AM


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QUOTE (Meteor @ 22 minutes, 48 seconds ago)
Let me try and break this down.

.People talk about oil-filters and oil-filter brands
.MattW says "Mann-Hummel or bust". I read this post before anyone responded to it and it was pretty obvious he was referring to an oil-filter brand named Mann-Hummel. And I hadn't even heard of the brand before. But anyway. . . .
.Drifter asks "Mann-Who?"
.MattW posts a let-me-google-that-for-you link
.Other stuff seems to come out of nowhere.

Anyway, just my suggestions:
.MattW. Post up some info about Mann-Hummel filters. Why you think they're good and so on.
.Both of you. Forget this ever happened. This thread would be a lot better if it went back to being about oil-filters. Please?

They're the OEM filter for my car, and many other European manufactures.
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QUOTE (MattW @ 1 hour, 1 minutes ago)
no, you're just wicked lazy and have no common sense.

I'm with this. I didn't recognize the brand either but considering it's a topic about oil filters, it must be an oil filter. So let's break down how difficult it is to figure this out. Keep in mind that I'm using Google Chrome with history-based autocomplete enabled. Here goes.

1. CTRL+T
2. g
3. ENTER
4. "Mann-Hummel"
5. ENTER

Bam. Five steps. Using the stopwatch on my phone, these steps (including lag induced by connection speed and my netbook's sad Atom processor) take approximately 6.7 seconds to complete. Less than ten seconds, just barely over five. It would be faster on a proper desktop instead of a netbook.

Or even faster, now that I think about it, Google Chrome has a right-click option for highlighted terms to search google for that term. Again breaking out the stopwatch, that equates to about 2.8 seconds including speed- and CPU-induced lag.

You can get mad about it all you want, AJ, but it really is 2012. I don't know if you're aware, but the majority of us on the internet don't need to be spoon-fed anymore. The means are out there and take less than ten seconds to exercise. Please try that next time before you complain.
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Posted: May 29 2012, 02:17 PM


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Chipping in my two cents....

When I didn't know any better, I always used Fram filters thinking it was the best thing ever. Not to mention the added no slip grip that comes along with it. Skip a few years later, and then I realize that they are terrible.

I mainly use Purolator ( either kind ) and AC Delco oil filters. I did use a K&N oil filter before on my grandpas Buick but later switched it to Purolator as well.

Me and the fiance are about to give the Eclipse a oil change in about two weeks, and you can bet Purolator is going in her car as well. ( and then comes replacing the lash adjusters, O2 sensor and spark plugs...).
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^Sounds like fun, I love breaking loose O2 sensers its superfantastical, just be glad you don't have to manualy adjust valve lash every 20k!

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QUOTE (Ayako Watanabe @ 4 hours, 46 minutes ago)
Me and the fiance are about to give the Eclipse a oil change in about two weeks, and you can bet Purolator is going in her car as well. ( and then comes replacing the lash adjusters, O2 sensor and spark plugs...).

Forget the lifters, It's a Mitsu, you'll get maybe 5k out of them and they'll make noise again. My brand new revised lifters lasted 7k before getting clicky again, and I consider that impressive. Just bleed the ones you've got and call it good if it's really that annoying.
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QUOTE (Spaz @ 31 minutes, 16 seconds ago)
Forget the lifters, It's a Mitsu, you'll get maybe 5k out of them and they'll make noise again. My brand new revised lifters lasted 7k before getting clicky again, and I consider that impressive. Just bleed the ones you've got and call it good if it's really that annoying.

They really don't last that long? I know the ticking it's driving her crazy so I figure if we fix that problem, she wont have to worry about the ticking anymore.
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I just found out Mann Hummel does the OEM filters for the Volkswagen Group of cars.

So buying OEM filters all this while can't be that bad....
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QUOTE (Ayako Watanabe @ 8 hours, 50 minutes ago)
They really don't last that long? I know the ticking it's driving her crazy so I figure if we fix that problem, she wont have to worry about the ticking anymore.

It's an issue with the lifters themselves, the oil relief ports aren't big enough and they build up gunk inside. The only way to fix it is to either get a set with wider ports (like I did, still didn't fix it completely) or bleed them a couple times a year.

My old ones were LOUD, so don't get me wrong, I'm happy with the new ones, but don't expect silence from them. The new ones were done only due to bearing shaving contamination of the old ones, the motor did sound like new for 40 miles before the bearings went. laugh2.gif
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Earlier MX-5s have the same issue, but not seemingly to the same extent if the oil is properly changed.
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QUOTE (MattW @ May 29 2012, 12:06 PM)
no, you're just wicked lazy and have no common sense.

Late, but THIS.

And, thank you Nomake Wan. Another user of Chrome to prove how efficient and superior the browser is.

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