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Posted by: TakFR Jan 5 2010, 11:44 PM
Night racing, Weather and Indy (IRL) all confirmed by Official Playstation Magazine

http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=124196

Posted by: Rudy Jan 7 2010, 09:22 AM
It's nice to see EA lifted their f**king chokehold around the NASCAR franchise and some Sony goodness can coming oozing in. Mmm, Impala. <3

Posted by: BOZZ Jan 7 2010, 10:37 AM
QUOTE (TakFR @ Yesterday, 3:44 AM)
Night racing, Weather and Indy (IRL) all confirmed by Official Playstation Magazine

http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=124196

COOLNESS! The more added stuff the better for GT5... smile.gif

Posted by: Solid Snake Jan 7 2010, 10:39 AM
I hope it has a soundtrack as epic as the one they made for GT3. GT4's soundtrack was pretty fail, IMO. If GT4 had GT3's soundtrack, it would have been the most awesome GT game ever. I missed being able to do doughnuts and the easy mode drifting that was possible in GT3. The game soundtrack is almost as important as the gameplay itself, for me at least it is.

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Jan 7 2010, 01:43 PM
Or better yet.. The ability to make a custom soundtrack. >_>

Posted by: am3pkcet Jan 8 2010, 02:39 PM
Just played sony's most recent GT5 build at CES, and there is still no damage (at least for the cars i drove). everything else is fine, and plays very nice on the logitech DFGT wheel. visuals were still kind of drab and dull; just like GT4, but in high def.

Posted by: RalliKai Jan 9 2010, 10:37 AM
QUOTE (TakFR @ Jan 6 2010, 02:44 AM)
Night racing, Weather and Indy (IRL) all confirmed by Official Playstation Magazine

http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=124196

Hopefully this means the player can actually set the weather conditions and time of day on the track. That ability would make things interesting.

Posted by: BlackSubaru Jan 9 2010, 09:21 PM
why dont we already have full control of weather , time of day, and other factors of the sort already?

these are all faults that every sim racing game has failed to include. yes even the mighty forza decided to skimp on it.

Posted by: MattW Jan 9 2010, 10:50 PM
QUOTE (BlackSubaru @ 1 hour, 29 minutes ago)
why dont we already have full control of weather , time of day, and other factors of the sort already?

these are all faults that every sim racing game has failed to include. yes even the mighty forza decided to skimp on it.

ToCA World Touring Cars for the PSX.

Posted by: am3pkcet Jan 10 2010, 02:23 AM
QUOTE (BlackSubaru @ 5 hours, 1 minutes ago)
why dont we already have full control of weather , time of day, and other factors of the sort already?

these are all faults that every sim racing game has failed to include. yes even the mighty forza  decided to skimp on it.

PGR has controlable weather.

edit: even tho its not a sim, i cant think of any other game that includes it regardless.

Posted by: MattW Jan 10 2010, 08:58 AM
QUOTE (am3pkcet @ 6 hours, 35 minutes ago)
PGR has controlable weather.

edit: even tho its not a sim, i cant think of any other game that includes it regardless.

ToCA World Touring Cars for theOriginal Playstation, also called Jarrett & Labonte Stock Car Racing in the States.

Posted by: TakFR Jan 17 2010, 02:05 AM
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Sony-Delays-Gran-Turismo-5-Yet-Again-132079.shtml

Not surprised at all dry.gif

Posted by: JaeMok Jan 17 2010, 03:21 AM
Cool! More time for me to save up money for a ps3!

Posted by: am3pkcet Jan 17 2010, 04:33 PM
QUOTE (TakFR @ Today, 3:05 AM)
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Sony-Delays-Gran-Turismo-5-Yet-Again-132079.shtml

Not surprised at all dry.gif

OMG really? It's pushed back again?

<goes back to playing Forza>

Posted by: RalliKai Jan 18 2010, 07:51 AM
QUOTE (JaeMok @ Yesterday, 6:21 AM)
Cool! More time for me to save up money for a ps3!

Except at this rate, it will probably end up as a launch title for the PS3's successor. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Jan 24 2010, 12:56 AM
Someone on GameFaqs posted this. laugh.gif

QUOTE
Why GT5 is taking so long:

Christmas time at PD. The game is content complete! Now, just a few months of polishing here, optimising there, and GT5 is good to go. PD are having a little office party to celebrate, there's some champagne, there're nibbles, there's a great vibe. Everyone is happy.

Kaz enters the office. He has taken to wearing a driver's helmet at all times now. People stifle their laughter.

Kaz:"Good job everyone! Cheers!"
All:"Cheers!"
Kaz:"Well, as you'll no doubt have heard, I've just got back from my endurance race, it's good news all round!"
Everyone lifts their glasses and cheers.
Kaz:"To celebrate, I'm going to try out the Honda I've just raced in GT5!"
Nervous glances all round.
PD coder 1:"Come now, Yamauchi-san, why not wind down, have a drink-"
Kaz takes to the controls.

10 minutes later

Kaz:"No. No, no, no! There's something off, it just doesn't feel right. Doesn't feel real!"
PD coder 1:"But Yamauchi-san, the game is due for release, we've done all the content now, it's too late to-"
Kaz:"Do you see this helmet I am wearing?"
PD coder 1:(looks down)"Yes, Yamauchi-san. I see the helmet."
Kaz:"Do you know where I got this helmet?"
PD coder 1:(still looking down)"You got it at the endurance race, Yamauchi-san."
Kaz:"At the endurance race. That's right. Where I raced. In a real car. At a real race. Because I, unlike you, am a real racing driver, you see."
PD coder 1:(looks back up)"But please, Yamauchi-san, it's just a simulation, it will never feel completely real-"
Kaz points to his helmet. PD coder 1 looks back down.
Kaz:"It is not quite right. Do it again. All of it, again."

Posted by: Nomake Wan Jan 24 2010, 02:06 AM
QUOTE (Phantom_R32 @ 1 hour, 9 minutes ago)
Someone on GameFaqs posted this. laugh.gif


That's such an amazing post, it really is. laugh.gif

Posted by: Rudy Jan 24 2010, 02:45 AM
The way I see it, by the time it's released, I'll actually be able to afford a PS3. wub.gif

Posted by: BOZZ Feb 13 2010, 07:04 PM
Just came across this earlier today:

http://www.connectedconsoles.com/ps3-Yamauchi-Hits-Out-At-Gran-Turismo-Competitors.cfm

I was surprised that the PD head would even comment on other games... Glad to see he's not taking comments about Forza sitting down lol...

Posted by: am3pkcet Feb 13 2010, 09:19 PM
Wow. I mean, I always pinned him as an arrogant ass anyway, but wow.

Maybe if he didn't take six and a half years to release a game, other devs wouldn't have to step in and release LOTS of viable, fun, and well made alternatives... rolleyes.gif

Posted by: BOZZ Feb 13 2010, 09:50 PM
QUOTE (am3pkcet @ 31 minutes, 3 seconds ago)
Wow. I mean, I always pinned him as an arrogant ass anyway, but wow.

Maybe if he didn't take six and a half years to release a game, other devs wouldn't have to step in and release LOTS of viable, fun, and well made alternatives... rolleyes.gif

There seem to be quite a few of those this generation it seems... Games that are taking too long to come out (Alan Wake, Too Human, GT5). I just found it refreshing that he'd comment on it at all...

Posted by: am3pkcet Feb 14 2010, 12:39 AM
I just think his concited views are a bit arrogant for me. He blasts other devs and their games for being unreal, yet no GT game ever has implimented damage; not even in the most recent build I played at CES in January.

As far as games taking too long, Too Human is a horrible example as that game was pure garbage.

Iduno, I mean I'm as big of a GT fan as you can be, but I get so sick of hearing how he sees his games as the second coming of christ. He's worse than Steve Jobs in the self-absorbed nature. Maybe his head is too far up his ass to realize that other people are off enjoying other racing games because he's taking his sweet f**king time releasing GT.

Posted by: BOZZ Feb 14 2010, 08:47 PM
True, but it doesn't change how long it was in development... Also I believe Final Fantasy XIII was in development for quite a long period of time as well...

Posted by: am3pkcet Mar 11 2010, 07:07 PM
http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/857126/gran-turismo-5/videos/gran_turismo_5_trl_031110.html

New trailer, and still no hint of damage outside of Rally cars.

Posted by: BlackSubaru Mar 11 2010, 07:12 PM
damage does not and will not ever make this game for me. im int he minority, but when not even forza can get the feel of an e-brake right, something is wrong.

need to increase the AI off the driver in your car...or something.

day 1 buy for me. and im still playing GT psp so i will transfer alot of cars over.

Posted by: am3pkcet Mar 11 2010, 07:29 PM
I hate the fact that the GT series has always been a game of bumper cars.

Don't get me wrong, I love GT and I own almost every version ever made, but there are some glaring omissions that seemingly EVERY OTHER GAME has.

Posted by: BlackSubaru Mar 11 2010, 07:53 PM
i fidn the lack of turn signals in all driving games disturbing. just reminds peopel to cut me off in real life.

Posted by: laznlspeeddemon Mar 13 2010, 07:49 PM
QUOTE (BlackSubaru @ Mar 11 2010, 07:53 PM)
i fidn the lack of turn signals in all driving games disturbing. just reminds peopel to cut me off in real life.

since when do you see racers in actual races using turn signals? I can understand if we're playing nfs during street races but actual races.

Posted by: BlackSubaru Mar 14 2010, 09:39 AM
headlights at least, and racers do use them. sometimes i just wanto take a drive like a normal person,

Posted by: am3pkcet Mar 14 2010, 11:23 AM
Outside of LeMans, what race cars use headlights? If there are night races for street cars headlights are on anyway. Does GT5 finally allow you to play any course during the day or the night? I know PGR does. Day, night, rain, snow, whatever you want for all courses.

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Mar 14 2010, 01:14 PM
Are they hinting at a possible Shutokou expressway course? whistling.gif

Would be nice cruising around with good physics for once. *looks at TXR series*

Posted by: am3pkcet Mar 14 2010, 03:19 PM
Would also be nice if they actually ever released this game.

Posted by: Nomake Wan Apr 8 2010, 05:58 AM
QUOTE (am3pkcet @ Mar 11 2010, 07:07 PM)
http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/857126/gran-turismo-5/videos/gran_turismo_5_trl_031110.html

New trailer, and still no hint of damage outside of Rally cars.

I just saw this. If they really do let you drive around the Shuto Expressway, that will be amazing. It'll be like Midnight Club II all over again...sortaish. I'd love that, seriously.

I was gonna get a PS3 for other reasons anyway, but I'd totally forgotten about GT5. Here's hoping it actually gets released.

Posted by: lance Apr 8 2010, 06:51 AM
ohh that wangan type track looks cool!

Posted by: Drift Dude Jun 13 2010, 05:52 AM
another trailer here.
YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLzoZQK_H4E&playnext_from=TL&videos=RVx8LaMcs5k&feature=sub )

But we do get the rome circuit back it seems.

but still no date...

Posted by: MattW Jun 13 2010, 08:01 AM
It's a different layout to the previous Rome circuits. Expect something like this to be the layout(green track):
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Posted by: am3pkcet Jun 13 2010, 09:04 AM
QUOTE (Drift Dude @ 3 hours, 11 minutes ago)
but still no date...

aaaaand still no vehicle damage outside of the one subaru WRC car they've been showing for months.

Posted by: RalliKai Jun 14 2010, 06:25 AM
At this point I would be content with just hearing the release date.




{UPDATE}

http://e3.gamespot.com/story/6265779/gran-turismo-5-revs-up-november-2

Gran Turismo 5 slated for November 2nd release.

QUOTE
E3 2010: Sony dates long-awaited Polyphony Digital racing sim at show-starting press conference.

LOS ANGELES--Five years after it was first teased, Gran Turismo 5 finally has a launch date. During its E3 press conference today, Sony unveiled a November 2 release for Polyphony Digital's racing sim.

When it launches, Gran Turismo 5 will feature nearly 1,000 vehicles on over 70 tracks in 20-plus locations. Budgeted at a whopping $60 million, it is also an official licensee of several prominent racing organizations, such as NASCAR and the World Rally Championship. An early sample of the PlayStation 3 exclusive, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, was released in April 2008, garnering decent reviews.

The Gran Turismo launch date was just one of many revealed in Sony's conference. The electronics giant also confirmed a February 2011 release for Killzone 3, September 9 debut for its motion-sensing Move controller, and the arrival of the PlayStation Plus premium subscription service later this month.

Posted by: Jardim Jun 18 2010, 07:56 AM
Yay Nov 2nd...day after my birthday...already told my girlfriend what i wanted!

Posted by: am3pkcet Jun 18 2010, 02:35 PM
If their demo was any indication, there will still be no damage modeling. The playable demo at the sony booth was the same one they had at CES. The only new thing was they had a few of them running in 3D. Same cars, same tracks, felt like the same physics, and there was no real time damage. It's going to be a huge disapointment when the game ships without it.

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Jun 21 2010, 08:07 PM
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/110/1100609p1.html

If this is true, then I'm more pumped then ever. The more stuff the better! I'm glad Polyphony Digital heard me when I said this game better have so much stuff in it I won't need a new racing game till GT6. But watch them do something stupid like only allowing cars to get damaged in stunt mode. dry.gif

http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/news/d5247p1.html

800 cars will have blacked out windows and no cockpit view. Ouch.. talk about buzz kill. But I guess I'll be fine as long as I get 1 R32 GT-R with cockpit view.

Posted by: am3pkcet Jun 21 2010, 09:03 PM
Iduno, I think I'd rather them just release regular ol' Gran Turismo 5 three or four years ago and leave all the spin-off games (WRC, Nascar, Stunts, Karts) to a dedicated spin-off title. I can't express enough my frustration with GT5's delays. I guess when it finally comes out it will be amazing value and a lot of game (even if it does have 50 skylines, 30 silvias, and 20 Z cars), I am just absolutely sick of waiting. And considering the content amount, it could EASILY have been 2 or 3 games released over the past 6 years instead of making us sit and wait and play other games. I guess it's not all bad though; there are a lot of other great racing games smile.gif

lulz on the cockpits though. Also only the few "premium" cars will get any kind of actual damage. The other 800 will get "Dirt, Scratches, and Dents." There's also a lovely disclaimer at the bottom "* Damage is not necessarily applied to all races in the game." *yawn*

Posted by: JKaiba Jun 21 2010, 09:49 PM
QUOTE (Phantom_R32 @ 1 hour, 41 minutes ago)
...800 cars will have blacked out windows and no cockpit view. Ouch.. talk about buzz kill. But I guess I'll be fine as long as I get 1 R32 GT-R with cockpit view.

You could always settle for blurry J-o vision
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oh noes- Nomake is on my tail!!!
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Posted by: Nomake Wan Jun 21 2010, 10:09 PM
God damn it J, when did you snap those photos!? laugh.gif How did I not know that until now?

Anyway, wasn't surprised about the "no cockpit view" thing. I figured there was no way in hell they'd be able to do cockpits for all the bajillion cars they wanted to put into the game and still have it release in a reasonable amount of time. There just was no way. Anyone who thought otherwise was deluding themselves. I just figured they wouldn't go for the 800+ thing but would keep it down to how many cars they actually had details for (a la Forza). Oh well.

It'll be interesting to see what'll happen. If you really can switch on/off headlights and drive the shuto expressway, glorious.

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Jun 21 2010, 10:57 PM
QUOTE (JKaiba @ 1 hour, 8 minutes ago)
You could always settle for blurry J-o vision
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t165/jkaiba/IMGP0022.jpg

oh noes- Nomake is on my tail!!!
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t165/jkaiba/IMGP0024.jpg

You sir, have made me completely jealous. I didn't know you actually owned an R32. sad.gif

Posted by: Drift Dude Jun 22 2010, 03:24 AM
now this is getting a bit to much, and i somewhat doubt if it's true but...

QUOTE
Shuhei Yoshida confirms GT5 weather, damage, go-kartingJune 21st

SCE Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida has confirmed a range of major features that will be found in Gran Turismo 5.

Speaking in an interview with PlayStation.com, the Sony man revealed some interesting information.
“Gran Turismo 5 will offer gamers an experience more rich, more in-depth and more exciting than they might expect – even from a series as closely identified with innovation and invention as Gran Turismo.
“Not only will Gran Turismo 5 deliver an even more comprehensive set of cars and courses than gamers saw with previous iterations, it will also feature new game-enhancing graphical effects such as damage, night racing and weather.”
He went on, saying:
“These innovations are twinned with the option to join millions of like-minded individuals globally within the Gran Turismo community and to find a driving experience to suit, whether that is taking on the Top Gear test track, chucking cars around stunt arenas, go-karting, creating and sharing your own track or intense head-to-head races. Who, where and what to drive is completely down to the individual.”
Although it has previously been said that some of these features, such as the weather system and the damage would potentially make the game, it has never actually been 100 percent until now.
A ton of press released information on GT5 emerged from E3 last week, including word on 1,000 cars and 20 tracks with 70 variants.
The game was confirmed in the Sony press conference as releasing on November 2 in the US.


Posted by: Nomake Wan Jun 22 2010, 05:02 AM
QUOTE (Drift Dude @ 1 hour, 38 minutes ago)
now this is getting a bit to much, and i somewhat doubt if it's true but...


Dude, look five posts up. See anything familiar? wink2.gif

Posted by: Drift Dude Jun 22 2010, 11:08 AM
QUOTE (Phoenix Wright @ 6 hours, 5 minutes ago)
Dude, look five posts up. See anything familiar? wink2.gif

no... whistling.gif

to lazy to read stuff from above.

but still I find it crazy, I was just happy with all the stuff I could do in GT4.

Posted by: HashiriyaR32 Jun 22 2010, 12:32 PM
no... whistling.gif

to lazy to read stuff from above.


And Katyusha from Super Robot Wars Legacy thinks the same about me >_>.

Well, I think it's guaranteed that whatever cars were featured in Prologue will retain their cockpit views for the full version.

It'll be interesting to see what'll happen. If you really can switch on/off headlights and drive the shuto expressway, glorious.

Site didn't say anything about turning lights completely off for night locales, but premium cars both high and low beams, while standard cars get standard lights. I presume no hi+low for those cars at the same time for unlit circuits?

Posted by: RalliKai Jun 22 2010, 02:54 PM
I didn't expect them to get the interior designs for all cars but the weather effects and racetrack editor is very intriguing. Depending on the extent that you can edit things.

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Jun 22 2010, 03:31 PM
I don't expect anything fancy from the track editor. I imagine the enviroment layout will look similar to that "Complex Strings" track. Just tarmac, grass, and walls on both sides.

Posted by: JKaiba Jun 22 2010, 03:56 PM
QUOTE (Phantom_R32 @ 25 minutes, 1 seconds ago)
I don't expect anything fancy from the track editor. I imagine the enviroment layout will look similar to that "Complex Strings" track. Just tarmac, grass, and walls on both sides.

I'm expecting big things from the track editor. Can you imagine having local racetracks available as content; how about the gunma mountain roads; or drive a recreation of famous highways. I don't care if the scenery is all messed up- if they allow the freedom to make that, I'm so sold.

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Jun 22 2010, 08:17 PM
I totally agree. But I hate giving myself high hopes. laugh.gif

Like you said, I'd love it if they gave you different layouts like mountains, expressways, circuit tracks.. etc etc

Posted by: RalliKai Jun 22 2010, 08:42 PM
It would add a whole new dynamic to the game. I wonder with the varying weather conditions idea if we'll actually see more then just a wet course or overcast weather. Like actual rain, fog or even snowfall and would their be a custom option for the player to adjust the conditions to their liking. That would be great.

Like what Phantom says, I'm not getting my hopes too high though.

Posted by: JKaiba Jun 22 2010, 08:54 PM
LOL if they allow us to make the 5 freeway in rush hour on 1 gallon of gas we can recreate more of N1 and my Wangan Noontime Minimum Tune experience:

SPOILER


Forza has had some interesting things come out of it. I'm hoping PDigital isn't a dick about user generated content.

Posted by: Nomake Wan Jun 22 2010, 10:24 PM
Dang it J... thankfully the GT series hasn't put gasoline consumption into their games yet, so that wouldn't work. Still, if the editing tools are up to snuff, I wonder how long it'll be before some guys get together and recreate the SoCal freeways? That would be some ridiculosity.

Online gaming is cheaper and safer than actually doing it, after all. whistling.gif

Posted by: am3pkcet Jun 22 2010, 10:31 PM
We all know a penis-shaped track is only a matter of time.... =/

Posted by: Tessou Jun 22 2010, 10:42 PM
I'm more interested in seeing how well people stack up to the Top Gear times on the test track. Will anybody be able to beat the Stig's best time with allowable vehicles?

I'd like to see an "IDW Star in a Reasonably Priced Car" board to see how we all rank driving a little Lacetti (if it's in the game). laugh.gif

Posted by: Nomake Wan Jun 23 2010, 01:01 AM
QUOTE (Tessō @ 2 hours, 18 minutes ago)
I'm more interested in seeing how well people stack up to the Top Gear times on the test track. Will anybody be able to beat the Stig's best time with allowable vehicles?

I'd like to see an "IDW Star in a Reasonably Priced Car" board to see how we all rank driving a little Lacetti (if it's in the game). laugh.gif

Oh, I am so taking that title. You know, as soon as I uh.. get a PS3 again...and the game... and a decent wheel...

...cry. sad.gif

Posted by: Tessou Jun 23 2010, 01:21 AM
I know for a fact that I'll be terrible. My usual method of tackling corners in videogames dumps my times in the shitter so often it's embarassing. I don't have too many Forza times that don't have a list of penalties attached.

Guess it's time to start training. If GT5 turns out to be good, I might decide to rejoin the PS3 fold once more, albeit cautiously.

Posted by: Drift Dude Jun 23 2010, 01:57 AM
QUOTE (Phoenix Wright @ 3 hours, 33 minutes ago)
thankfully the GT series hasn't put gasoline consumption into their games yet, so that wouldn't work.

I thought GT 4 had some sort of Fuel usage thingy?


Posted by: Tessou Jun 23 2010, 02:54 AM
GT4 had fuel management. It was quite prevalent in endurance races (natch) and B-Spec mode let you tweak things like when the driver should pit to refuel. Running out locked your car's max speed to 50mph and it would sort of just roll to the pit automatically.

Posted by: Rallyist Jun 23 2010, 10:56 AM
QUOTE (RalliKai @ Today, 12:54 AM)
I didn't expect them to get the interior designs for all cars but the weather effects and racetrack editor is very intriguing. Depending on the extent that you can edit things.

There is a another difference about 800 cars;

YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd5_CguyYG4 )


They ported 800 vehicle from gt4 and just upscale it.The whole 1000 car thing is huge lie.They working almost 5 year for gt5 and what just 200 cars,no real damage and pointless Wrc license.There is no any real wrc stage or rally mode.Gt's rally stages rallycross not a rally and Wrc cars replaces next year new ones.PD's Wrc license end in next year.Gt 5 Prologue out 2.5 year ago and has 50-60 cars.So what are they making in last 2.5 year? If standart car thing announced in the begining it's ok but no one knows before.It's shame for Gt name.If Codemasters or Criterion work for a racing game almost 5 year,I belive they create better game than Gt5.

Posted by: am3pkcet Jun 23 2010, 07:43 PM
QUOTE (Rallyist @ 8 hours, 46 minutes ago)
If Codemasters or Criterion work for a racing game almost 5 year,I belive they create better game than Gt5.

Once F1 2010 comes out, Codemasters will have released four excellent games within four years; about 2/3 the amount of time PD has been "working" a single game.

I have a really hard time buying why GT5 has taken so long....

Posted by: Tessou Jun 23 2010, 08:18 PM
Probably to develop the unnecessary 3D support. That's my guess.

Posted by: am3pkcet Jun 23 2010, 08:47 PM
3D should not be difficult in a virtual world for any reason. Objects already exist in virtual 3D space, so render out two virtual cameras for left/right eye and job done: stereoscopic 3D.

Granted that's probably a vast oversimplification, judging on what I know about 3D technology, the processing speed needed to keep up without framerate or resolution sacrifices would be a way bigger deal than anything else. Maybe that's why the Rome screen shots I saw looked to have cheap texturing and blocky modeling. The trees are still two 2D planes intersecting eachother in a + form. rolleyes.gif

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Posted by: Phantom_R32 Jul 4 2010, 09:37 AM
Photo mode is coming back: http://n4g.com/news/557415/gran-turismo-5-photo-mode-video-emerged

Also PD is going to release a collectors edition: http://kotaku.com/5564686/gran-turismo-5s-collectors-edition-is-reward-for-your-patience

$100 is quite a bit.. But I'm still ordering it regardless.

Also here's a vid of the top gear test track. (I dont know if it's old or not) http://kotaku.com/5578024/watch-a-guy-complete-a-lap-of-top-gears-test-track

Posted by: lance Jul 4 2010, 09:57 AM
do i see a mclaren F1 in that topgear track?!

Posted by: Drift Dude Jul 14 2010, 11:12 AM
if anyone wants, they're holding a contest to name the new title music.
http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/news/d5277.html
My entry has been send.

Also in, a Collectors edition

QUOTE
Today Sony Computer Entertainment America announced the Gran Turismo 5 Collector's Edition, releasing on November 2 alongside the stand-alone version. The Collector’s Edition features a must-have collection of exclusive items hand-picked for Gran Turismo fans. Quantities will be limited, so serious Gran Turismo fans should pre-order their copy at their local retailer now.

Retailing for $99.99 SRP, the Collector's Edition includes a 1:43 scale collectible diecast car, a 300-page guide to cars and racing techniques, a GT-branded key chain, a voucher for five (5) DLC cars, and a numbered certificate of authenticity, all housed in stylish, premium packaging.

Collector's Edition Content Details:



Gran Turismo® 5 game

Exclusive limited edition 1:43 scale diecast 2009 Nissan GT-R Spec V with custom Gran Turismo livery designed by Polyphony Digital, produced by well-known collectible car maker Kyosho

In-depth 300-page car-lover’s guide written by the experts at Polyphony Digital, covering everything from the history of the modern automobile to driving techniques and game reference material

Custom etched Gran Turismo key chain

Voucher for five (5) exclusive high-end cars with custom Gran Turismo livery and performance upgrades

Numbered certificate of authenticity

Custom collector’s packaging


Posted by: Phantom_R32 Jul 20 2010, 04:41 PM
I see some damage on production cars!

YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL4why7lhTk&feature=related )


Meh.. It's no GRID. But good enough...

EDIT: 7/30/10 - Fobby translations! and lol at Hong Kong being in Japan.

QUOTE
A translation of some text thanks to ICEKOLD_KILLA of GTPlanet
Locations: 20
- Japan: Honk Kong with its city tracing
- Italy: 3 city tracings between which Rome and the rally in Tuscany
- United States: 7 city tracings of contest like Daytona, 2 circuits and 1 for the rally
- France: 2 tracings of contest like Magny-Cours, 2 citizens and 1 rally
- Spain: the circuit of contest of Valencia (resumed from GT PSP) and the city circuit to Madrid
- United Kingdom: 1 circuit of contest resumed from Top Gear and the city circuit of London
- Switzerland: 1 city circuit and 1 circuit rally
- Monaco: the city tracing of the Principato di Monaco better known like the track of the F1
- Korea of the South: 1 city tracing
- Germany: 3 circuits of contest like that one of Nurburgring

Tracings: more than 70 (today 94), of which 52 resumed from GT4 and GT PSP

Confirmed tracings:
Daytona International Speedway
Dunsfold Park
Indianapolis Motor Speedway
Nurburgring
Tokyo Route 246 (from the series)
City tracings: Rome, Madrid, London
Track Editor
- Published of tracings in order to personalize and to create every your desire on track.

Vehicles: beyond 1.000 distinguished in 200 Premium (cockpit to 360°, visible damages totals, dazzling) and approximately 800 Standards (traditional cockpit, marginal visible damages), all can be elaborated and personalized to it appeal to (tuning).

Hopefully this all accurate with the 20 locations meaning 20 countries/regions rather than 20 tracks with variations, and the premium vs. standard car confusion about cockpit views.

Posted by: Drift Dude Aug 23 2010, 01:30 AM
New info? Now?
QUOTE
Course Maker, Driver Management, and Kart
Kazunori Yamauchi shows a few more features, including two that let you get creative and tactical.

At this point, there's not really much left to be said about Gran Turismo 5. It has been in development for what seems like ages, but unlike most games with a curiously long production cycle, it's not showing any reasons for concern. Quite the contrary--GT5 looks every bit the terrific racing sim that developer Polyphony Digital has become known for over the years. Gran Turismo 5's lengthy development seems to have resulted in a borderline absurd amount of content to be found in the game. From nighttime racing to NASCAR vehicles, we've seen a lot of what GT5 has to offer over the past few years, and with the impending release (hopefully) right on the horizon, we've just had a chance to see a few more bells and whistles here at Gamescom 2010.

First, there's the course maker. Game director Kazunori Yamauchi was careful to avoid calling it a course editor, because to him that implies a barrier of entry on par with a 3D modeling program. If you're looking for a tool to lay your own asphalt and design billboards, this isn't it. Instead, the course maker is something that allows players to select a variety of course parameters from dropdown menus and let the game randomly generate a track in line with those settings. You start with a theme, ranging from the Tuscan countryside to Germany in the spring, and select the time of day, weather, and whether you want a point-to-point rally track or a looping circuit. Then you get into the nitty-gritty, selecting the number of sections, how many corners each section will have, and everything from sharpness of the turns to the width of the track to each section's bank angle. Then you hit the "generate track" button, and the game spits out a course that fits your specifications. You can hit the button again as many times as you like until you get something perfectly suited to your liking. After all this, you can share your track with friends and race it against other players online.

One of the other notable features Kazunori showed was an expanded version of the B-Spec mode originally found in Gran Turismo 4. If you recall, B-Spec mode is essentially a driving management simulation. It's more or less the direct counterpart to A-Spec, the basic game mode that lets you get in the seat of the car and drive. The idea for this mode goes back to Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec. The game was given that title because Kazunori intended to release Gran Turismo 3: B-Spec shortly after, a game that would use the same technology but focus on what it's like to manage your own racing team from the comfort of the pit. Obviously, that game was never released, which Kazunori attributed to a variety of technical hurdles they couldn't overcome. He said that B-Spec was included in GT4 as an experiment of sorts, but it has taken all the way until now for the two Spec modes to become perfectly balanced in terms of quality.

So what does all that talk mean, exactly? B-Spec gives you a fairly impressive suite of controls to manage a team of racers. You start with a single driver, but eventually build up your team to a maximum of six. During a race, you're shown a screen with a window of the live race flanked by a gaggle of meters, gauges, and numbers. There are gauges for your driver's current mental and physical staminas, as well as one that shows how agitated he is. These are factors that you as the manager control by giving him directions to increase the pace, lower it, maintain it, or what have you. If he gets really hot under the collar, he might eventually ignore your directions and become more prone to accidents on the track. You can also see information such as current tire damage and real-time averages of how every driver has been doing on every section of the track so you know when to plan your attack.

While B-Spec and the course maker were very much the focus of our demo, there were a few other features mentioned toward the end. For one, the photo mode we detailed at E3 will offer 3D support. Yes, you can take your cars, position them in a variety of tracks and showrooms, and then snap a photo that you can then gaze upon in three dimensions. We also saw a video of the kart racing in Gran Turismo, which if nothing else boasted the undeniably entertaining visual of drivers fully decked out in racing uniforms, shoes, and tinted helmets throwing their weight around the corners as they raced in front of the Roman Colosseum. Kart racing seems like an odd addition to a series so known for supercars that push the boundaries of modern engineering, but it's certainly at least a sign of Polyphony's dedication to further fleshing out a collection of race types that already includes WRC and NASCAR.

Finally, this couldn't possibly be a Gran Turismo preview without revealing a handful of new cars and a track or two. We'll start with the cars. The theme with this batch of rides can be boiled down to one year: 1967. From that year you'll find a Ford Mark IV, a Ferrari 330 P4, a Jaguar XJ13, and a Lamborghini Miura P4000 Bertone Prototype. Why that year? The 1967 Le Mans was a personal favorite of Kazunori's, as the Ferrari that won first, second, and third places in the Daytona earlier in the year was beat out by the underdog Ford. Rounding out that list from a more modern era are the Zonda R '09, the Impreza Sedan WRX STI '10, and the Lexus IS F Racing Concept '08. And in terms of tracks, Kazunori announced Italy's Autodromo Nazionale Monza, or Monza for short. This track features few turns and ample straights, making it a good place for beginners to get a feel for revving their engines.

Gran Turismo 5 is currently scheduled for release on November 2. We've got our fingers crossed that it makes that release, but in the meantime, expect to see more coverage at next month's Tokyo Game Show.


Posted by: RalliKai Aug 23 2010, 11:57 AM
I was hoping the track maker would be a pure editor but ahwell. It sounds intriguing no less and B-spec mode should be interesting. Wonder how the emotions of the driver feature will do?

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Aug 23 2010, 12:12 PM
I'm sure it'll still make the release date even though they added all that stuff. Most of that news regarding the karting and course maker has been known for a while now anyways. Plus, Kaz has probably been working on it for a long time.

YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLOp_XWbB0oP )



Posted by: am3pkcet Aug 23 2010, 03:53 PM
I hope I'm not the only one who thinks Karting is a stupid waste of time for a GT game....

In fact, I think most of the added modes in this game are a stupid waste of time. It just seems like Kaz threw out a cloud of ideas on a wall, threw some darts at it, and then just said screw it, let's do em all anyway!

I would much rather have had GT5 two to four years ago as just the racing game we all know GT to be. Then release these add-ons (Nascar, WRC, Kart, whatever) as optional DLC or as a bundled add on (or stand alone) pack. It not only would have generated insane amounts of income, but would have let us, the gamers, actually play the game instead of making us wait seven years.

edit: I also wonder if it will suffer from "Gran Turismo Syndrome" when it comes to cars. Meaning, yeah, they claim to have thousands, but most of their newest ones are at least a model year (sometimes a generation) behind what's currently available. Usually a result of taking so goddamn long to make.

Posted by: Soran Aug 23 2010, 04:46 PM
I second that. I've waited ever since 2007 (When i bought my PS3) JUST.RELEASE.THE.GODDAMNED.GAME.ALREADY...

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Aug 23 2010, 06:04 PM
All people wanted was a GT4 with better graphics, better custimization, more cars, more courses and damage.

Instead, we get karting. laugh.gif

Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Aug 23 2010, 07:10 PM
Are they finally including Porsche, Lamborghini, or Ferrari vehicles? tongue.gif

(although RUF counts as Porsche)

Posted by: RalliKai Aug 23 2010, 08:29 PM
QUOTE (ZeetherKID77 @ 1 hour, 19 minutes ago)
Are they finally including Porsche, Lamborghini, or Ferrari vehicles? tongue.gif

(although RUF counts as Porsche)

Ferrari and Lambo, yes. Porsche, unfortunatly no.

QUOTE
All people wanted was a GT4 with better graphics, better custimization, more cars, more courses and damage.

Instead, we get karting. laugh.gif


They included cars like the Prius and Scion Xb in GT4. I want a Ford Model T in GT5 to rip around the track in. tongue.gif

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Aug 23 2010, 08:42 PM
QUOTE (ZeetherKID77 @ 1 hour, 31 minutes ago)
Are they finally including Porsche, Lamborghini, or Ferrari vehicles? tongue.gif

(although RUF counts as Porsche)

I wish Porsche would be included.. But since Kaz is pals with Nissan. I don't see that happening.

Seeing how Nissan and Porsche are best friends after all.. /sarcasm

Posted by: am3pkcet Aug 23 2010, 09:23 PM
QUOTE (Phantom_R32 @ 3 hours, 18 minutes ago)
All people wanted was a GT4 with better graphics, better custimization, more cars, more courses and damage.

I'd gladly take 200-300 cars if they're all cars I'd actually want to drive. Forza only has a couple hundred (including several DLC packs) and I still struggle to pick and choose what I want to drive.

To be honest, this 1,000+ car bullshit is just marketing. I'll bet if you take the lineage down to name only (IE the 1989, 1992, 1993, 1995, 1997, 1999, 2000, and 2002 model of a car count as ONE car), the "1000" would be more like "300."

And, like I said earlier, GT seems to ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS be behind the times in recent car releases. Luckily now they can update this with DLC, but it was always annoying in GT3 and 4 to have to settle for last years model, or the previous generation of a car.

Posted by: Rudy Aug 23 2010, 09:30 PM
QUOTE (am3pkcet @ 5 hours, 36 minutes ago)
I hope I'm not the only one who thinks Karting is a stupid waste of time for a GT game....

In fact, I think most of the added modes in this game are a stupid waste of time. It just seems like Kaz threw out a cloud of ideas on a wall, threw some darts at it, and then just said screw it, let's do em all anyway!

I would much rather have had GT5 two to four years ago as just the racing game we all know GT to be. Then release these add-ons (Nascar, WRC, Kart, whatever) as optional DLC or as a bundled add on (or stand alone) pack. It not only would have generated insane amounts of income, but would have let us, the gamers, actually play the game instead of making us wait seven years.

edit: I also wonder if it will suffer from "Gran Turismo Syndrome" when it comes to cars. Meaning, yeah, they claim to have thousands, but most of their newest ones are at least a model year (sometimes a generation) behind what's currently available. Usually a result of taking so goddamn long to make.

I just hope this game finally includes EVERY car that was in GT2 in addition to the new ones. pinch2.gif

I miss my SVX...

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Aug 23 2010, 10:28 PM
QUOTE (am3pkcet @ 1 hour, 5 minutes ago)
I'd gladly take 200-300 cars if they're all cars I'd actually want to drive.  Forza only has a couple hundred (including several DLC packs) and I still struggle to pick and choose what I want to drive.

To be honest, this 1,000+ car bullshit is just marketing.  I'll bet if you take the lineage down to name only (IE the 1989, 1992, 1993, 1995, 1997, 1999, 2000, and 2002 model of a car count as ONE car), the "1000" would be more like "300."

And, like I said earlier, GT seems to ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS be behind the times in recent car releases.  Luckily now they can update this with DLC, but it was always annoying in GT3 and 4 to have to settle for last years model, or the previous generation of a car.

Bad wording on my part. When I wrote that, I complete forgot the fact they have 900+ cars as it is.

I don't mind too much about GT5 not having that many cars from 2010-2011.. Seeing how most of them aren't even sporty to begin with. Besides the Ferrari Revonton, Lexus LF-A and whatever else came out this year.

I'd be happy with a Forza 3 sized car list though. Gran Turismo has too many "filler" cars, like you mentioned.

Posted by: Nomake Wan Aug 23 2010, 11:54 PM
I'm so adding the theme songs from Capeta to the custom soundtrack list.

Too bad the Stratos was confirmed as one of the GT4-port cars. Boo.

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Sep 6 2010, 09:19 PM
If anyone has a Best Buy near them, be on the look out. I'm not sure if all, but some Best Buy locations have the newest GT5 demo.

According to this link: http://www.gtplanet.net/new-gran-turismo-5-damage-model-in-best-buy-demo/

Posted by: am3pkcet Sep 6 2010, 11:23 PM
Iduno, I just find it so hard to get excited for GT anymore. It's like waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, moving on, etc etc. I mean I'm sure the game will be great... I'm just so.... over it.

Posted by: RalliKai Sep 7 2010, 06:26 AM
I'd rather just wait alittle longer for the full game then go for an other demo. Not too hard when you've already waited half a decade.

Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Sep 7 2010, 10:46 AM
They're porting car models from GT4? Kind of sounds lazy...

Posted by: RalliKai Sep 7 2010, 12:08 PM
Yeah, not sure what models are imported though. I'm more curious to see if the physics will be improved. Not the more grippy understeer physics from GT4 or the oversteer happy physics from 3.

Posted by: Smiley_DC2 Sep 7 2010, 02:13 PM
QUOTE (am3pkcet @ Yesterday, 6:23 PM)
Iduno, I just find it so hard to get excited for GT anymore. It's like waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, moving on, etc etc. I mean I'm sure the game will be great... I'm just so.... over it.

agreed .. i probably won't end up getting it until it hits platinum status ..

mind you that probably won't take long either

Posted by: ChiyoV Sep 7 2010, 04:39 PM
Hang on, so are Indy Cars (IZOD Indy Car Series) included in GT5? Weird that there hasn't been any marketing about it at any IZOD Indy Car Series race this year or on TV.
(<--went to GP of Sonoma at Infineon, met Helio Castroneves)

Posted by: Nomake Wan Sep 7 2010, 05:50 PM
QUOTE (Phantom_R32 @ Yesterday, 10:19 PM)
If anyone has a Best Buy near them, be on the look out. I'm not sure if all, but some Best Buy locations have the newest GT5 demo.

According to this link: http://www.gtplanet.net/new-gran-turismo-5-damage-model-in-best-buy-demo/

The one nearest to me doesn't have it. sad.gif There are two others I could go to but they're not as close and I don't feel like it. Meh.

Posted by: ChiyoV Sep 9 2010, 03:19 PM
The Gamestop near my place has the demo. I used Jeff Gordon's car at Rome Circuit.
Anyone knows if this is downloadable to my PS3 at home?

Posted by: Alex Sep 9 2010, 06:15 PM
QUOTE (ChiyoV @ 2 hours, 56 minutes ago)
The Gamestop near my place has the demo. I used Jeff Gordon's car at Rome Circuit.
Anyone knows if this is downloadable to my PS3 at home?

That sounds nuts. I'll definitely make some rounds and look for a demo. We're rarely up on the latest around here, but worth a look.

Posted by: lance Sep 17 2010, 07:33 AM
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/tgs-10-gran-turismo/704776

night time looks
O_O


!!!!

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Sep 17 2010, 02:15 PM
More updates from Tokyo Game Show!

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/09/16/gran-turismo-anywhere-brings-the-web-more-features-to-gt5/
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/09/16/gran-turismo-5-tgs-2010-media-update/

Volkswagen Schwimmwagen & SambaBus and much more! laugh.gif

Soooooooo pumped. My hype for this just went through the roof

Posted by: RalliKai Sep 19 2010, 09:56 AM
I'm liking the weather affects. I'm kind of disappointed by the lack of lingering dust on the dirt stages though. So you'll be able to paint your car now huh?

Posted by: Alex Sep 19 2010, 11:06 AM
QUOTE (Alex @ Sep 9 2010, 10:15 PM)
That sounds nuts. I'll definitely make some rounds and look for a demo. We're rarely up on the latest around here, but worth a look.

Update. Played a demo at Best Buy. My performance wasn't the best, but I had two people stop and talk to me about the game.

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Sep 19 2010, 05:01 PM
I still haven't taken the time to check Best Buy.. Maybe I'll head there tomorrow

Here's some new rain racing videos: http://www.gtplanet.net/first-gran-turismo-5-gameplay-videos-in-the-rain/

I'm sure Bubs will like this one: http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_gran_turismo_5_tgs_amazing_race_replay-17207_en.html laugh.gif

Trial Mountain & Laguna Seca: http://www.gtplanet.net/gt5s-trial-mountain-laguna-seca-gameplay-videos/

Night racing at Circuit La Sarthe: http://www.gtplanet.net/stunning-gt5-gameplay-video-night-racing-at-la-sarthe/

Menus: http://www.gtplanet.net/new-gt5-menu-screenshots-my-home-special-race-events-more/ (Looks like their might be a livery editor afterall, well, atleast custom paint.

Posted by: Jardim Oct 6 2010, 11:11 PM
Played the demo at a Target store the other day. I was on that Toscana dirt track with a GT-R. The Day/Night transition was unfreakinbelivable, Cant wait for Nov 2nd when i harvest my CE.

Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Oct 7 2010, 04:14 AM
"The Stig Challenge"?

Now that sounds awesome. I wish I had a PS3 now.

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Oct 13 2010, 11:22 AM
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/10/13/gran-turismo-5-release-update/

I know this shouldn't be a surprise.. but I'm pissed beyond belief. I just pre-ordered the Collector's Edition too..

SPOILER

Posted by: Blues Oct 13 2010, 11:30 AM
QUOTE
We sincerely apologize to GT fans for the delay, however, creator Kazunori Yamauchi and the team at Polyphony Digital  want to make certain they are creating the perfect racing experience, and we are confident that this ambitious game will exceed expectations when it launches.



That sounds like they want to release it closer to Christmas to for heightened sales.


I could be wrong though. wink2.gif

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Oct 13 2010, 12:23 PM
I'm guessing it was pushed back because Call of Duty: Black Ops comes out the week after GT5 was suppose to come out.

I guess that's just more proof that PD cares more about money than their fans.

Posted by: am3pkcet Oct 13 2010, 03:17 PM
LOOOOOOOL! Well played PD. If they're nothing else, they're predictable.

Posted by: RalliKai Oct 14 2010, 08:30 PM
Well Nov 2nd turned out to be too good to be true afterall. DiRT 3 will be out before GT5 at this rate. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Jardim Oct 25 2010, 08:13 AM
The delay was caused by PS3 firmware issues and Sony. I don't think we can blame PD or Black Ops. (2 differnt titles which both have a cult following and are both bound to hit diamond status) It will come out in November.

Posted by: am3pkcet Oct 25 2010, 11:02 AM
Who knows, who cares. It's Gran Turismo; it gets delayed. Thats what they do.

I for one stopped caring about Gran Turismo years ago. Between PGR3/4, Grid, Dirt1/2, and Forza2/3, I've certainly not been wasting my time thinking about GT over the past 6 years.

Posted by: Boost1995 Oct 27 2010, 11:27 AM
Game Stop says it ship 1-1-11. Nice.

Posted by: RalliKai Oct 27 2010, 05:26 PM
I hope they're wrong since Mass Effect 2 is being released that same month on the PS3.

Posted by: Shirogane Oct 27 2010, 06:03 PM
QUOTE (Phantom_R32 @ Oct 13 2010, 12:22 PM)
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/10/13/gran-turismo-5-release-update/

I know this shouldn't be a surprise.. but I'm pissed beyond belief. I just pre-ordered the Collector's Edition too..

SPOILER

Yeesh, tone it down. Getting all seriously pissed for a game? Really?! It would suck if someone came by and dented your ride...

Posted by: am3pkcet Oct 28 2010, 11:22 AM
QUOTE (Ken Nōgami @ Yesterday, 7:03 PM)
Yeesh, tone it down. Getting all seriously pissed for a game? Really?! It would suck if someone came by and dented your ride...

Well its understandable considering the game has been "delayed" or "pushed back" officially or unofficially off and on for the past three years or so. In the time PD has taken to make GT5, other companies have released 2, 3, sometimes 4 titles (like Codemasters with Dirt, GRID, Dirt2, F1 2010). So it's like a final slap in the face to us fans to say difinitively, once and for all, THIS is the date! ......and then change it and push it back again. Like I said earlier, I'm not surprised in the least bit, but it is a really dick move to do.

And really? 2 months? They've been working on this game over 6 years, what could they possibly have that they could do in 2 months? The game should have already gone gold and set off to packaging.

Posted by: Spaz Oct 28 2010, 05:09 PM
QUOTE (am3pkcet @ 5 hours, 46 minutes ago)
The game should have already gone gold and set off to packaging.

Hell, the game should already be on Greatest Hits shelves, like the second Forza title it was meant to compete with, but we won't talk about that one.

Posted by: Tessou Oct 28 2010, 05:24 PM
In the time between GT4 and GT5, we've seen countless franchises either start up and/or gain sequels. Blur is a big name among the bunch.

Posted by: SmGy Nov 2 2010, 12:40 PM
http://jalopnik.com/5679823/kazunori-the-%5Bgt5%5D-discs-are-being-stamped-as-we-speak

Can't wait for something to happen to the discs and thus cause another delay wink2.gif.

Posted by: Jardim Nov 3 2010, 04:01 PM
This just in from the Top Gear's magazine

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Posted by: Phantom_R32 Nov 7 2010, 12:28 AM
http://www.gtplanet.net/555000-copies-of-gt5-for-france-new-launch-party-date/

Thank god. It will be in my hands by Christmas after all.

Posted by: Jardim Nov 8 2010, 07:03 PM
So apperently some guy in Czechslovakia got a copy of GT5 and is posting vids on YouTube.....I think in the past 65 years this is the first time the communist way of life > capitalism....

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Nov 9 2010, 03:17 PM
Yep, there's a bunch videos floating around now.. and my god, the sound of the vehicles have improved so much. They sound so good.

Even the intro movie for GT5 is on youtube somewhere. I'll post it here, but will probably delete it soon off youtube anyways.

Intro movie
YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0vYu5_3Ut8 )


Cape Ring Gameplay
YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DsJXYBhf8YP )


Tsukuba Gameplay
YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-dJP4saO6I )


Oil Changing
YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V85-o2wqZRI )


Course List (Incomplete course list, I'm assuming some courses are unlocked)
YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ds-4LEHJp0P )


Playstation Move head tracking
YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo3fu3paq3A )


EDIT: Here's some more videos

Pagani Zonda R - Eiger Nordwand Rain
YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCn8xslJhyI )


Honda CR-Z - Eiger Nordwand Rain
YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJfHw9qmmko )


1987 Mugen Civic - Special Stage Route 7
YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjRTmz6wao8P )


EDIT AGAIN: New release date!

http://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-5-release-date-november-24th-in-europe/

Thank god.. and it's sooner than expected too!

Posted by: WRX DRAGON Spec C Type RA-R Nov 14 2010, 05:31 AM
Any news on GTPSP integration? I heard that the cars you have in that game will only carry over to the arcade mode of GT5..... unamused.gif

Just wanted to know if anyone else heard anything different.

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Nov 14 2010, 11:44 AM
I heard that too. I'm not sure if it actually carries over to your career mode. If I would've known that, I wouldn't have gotten 600 cars on GTPSP. >__>

Posted by: lance Nov 15 2010, 07:45 AM
wow crz sounds amazing, temped to buy a ps3 now

Posted by: RalliKai Nov 16 2010, 05:52 AM
QUOTE (Phantom_R32 @ Nov 7 2010, 03:28 AM)
http://www.gtplanet.net/555000-copies-of-gt5-for-france-new-launch-party-date/

Thank god. It will be in my hands by Christmas after all.

According to , it could be in your hands before Thanksgiving.

http://www.gamestop.com/gs/landing/granturismo5/?loc=homemerch2txt



QUOTE
Yeah, I know. I had the updated release date in my post with all the videos.


My bad then.

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Nov 16 2010, 02:54 PM
Yeah, I know. I had the updated release date in my post with all the videos.

Posted by: Jardim Nov 19 2010, 03:04 PM
Epic commercial for epic game....

YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v3aCp899F8 )

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 20 2010, 12:29 AM
QUOTE (Jardim @ 9 hours, 24 minutes ago)
Epic commercial for epic game....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v3aCp899F8

"When they said 500 cars, I said make it 1000!"

"When they said holiday 2008, I said make it 2010!"

Posted by: Jardim Nov 20 2010, 08:17 AM
When they said they needed the test cars back i said huhuahahaha.

Posted by: RalliKai Nov 20 2010, 08:30 AM
Usually I can't stand those commercials but that one wasn't bad.

QUOTE
"When they said 500 cars, I said make it 1000!"

"When they said holiday 2008, I said make it 2010!"


LOL awesome.gif

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Nov 20 2010, 03:22 PM
New videos awesome.gif

YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOrX0F4XWyw )


YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfVfYyigC0g )


YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41No6k0kx2E )


YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6ovjx_jjwY )


YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxgwBlY6NBM )


YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ydkFTqslQ )


YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azrjLsrk7-AP )


EDIT: Wangan runs anybody? laugh.gif

YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAwm-2CSfR8P )

Posted by: Takeshi Nakazato Nov 22 2010, 09:43 AM
Matt, we are doing wangan runs when this comes out

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Nov 22 2010, 04:54 PM
Sounds good to me. wink2.gif Sucks that this game doesn't have the ER34 for ya though.. lol

I honestly thought these pics were real life at first. My god... so amazing

SPOILER

SPOILER

SPOILER

SPOILER


Oh and.... the idle sounds soooo nice awesome.gif
YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFxZgIToptc )

Posted by: Takeshi Nakazato Nov 22 2010, 09:27 PM
its alright Matt, I would just roll with any other skylines, I love the 32,33,34,and 35 as well. plus other cars like my Mazdas and Toyotas and other cars and makes i love.

Edit: I got the Blitz ER34!!!

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Nov 22 2010, 10:22 PM
Oh yeahhhh.. i forgot about that one. I think the Amuse Carbon R is a ER34 too.

I don't even know what car I wanna work on right away. I want an R32, but I also wanna save up for a Lexus LF-A.

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 22 2010, 10:45 PM
QUOTE (Takeshi Nakazato @ 1 hour, 17 minutes ago)
its alright Matt, I would just roll with any other skylines, I love the 32,33,34,and 35 as well. plus other cars like my Mazdas and Toyotas and other cars and makes i love.

Edit: I got the Blitz ER34!!!

Haha, I don't. I would rather they pad that "1000 cars" slogan with 1000 different cars and not "700 skylines, and a few other cars"

tongue.gif

I'm picking up my copy tomorrow. happy.gif

Posted by: Takeshi Nakazato Nov 23 2010, 08:54 AM
amp3kcet, send me a friends request on PSN, Elementology

Posted by: Drift Dude Nov 23 2010, 09:32 AM
I'm thinking about picking up a copy near xmas, gonna wait a bit untill the storm has passed.

Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Nov 23 2010, 11:12 AM
So how much customization can be done in this? I saw the R33 in one of the screenshots with a CF hood so I guess that can be done...

Posted by: RalliKai Nov 23 2010, 11:20 AM
I'll be receiving it through Gamefly. I might choose to buy it, especially since GF is offering an additional $10 off for purchasing a game this week.

Posted by: Drift Dude Nov 23 2010, 12:01 PM
QUOTE (ZeetherKID77 @ 49 minutes, 3 seconds ago)
So how much customization can be done in this? I saw the R33 in one of the screenshots with a CF hood so I guess that can be done...

most of that is only to the premium cars, standard can't change rims, don't have body kits only some wings, no carbon bonnet, can't do race conversion.

So you're kinda limited to what you can do to a standard car, but not to a premium one.

so if you got a standard version R32 skyline, you can't do any of the stuff above. But with the premium version you can.

YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqxsdWph7jM&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL )

Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Nov 23 2010, 12:21 PM
Ah, I see. Kind of sucks but it is nice to at least see some Forza level customization.


Posted by: Smiley_DC2 Nov 23 2010, 03:46 PM
those pictures are amazing!! thanks for posting up man

Posted by: LegendaryGnome Nov 23 2010, 07:10 PM
Been reading that only 17 cars can do the race modification. unsure.gif

Note the RM.

Acura NSX RM ‘91
Chevrolet Camaro SS RM ‘10
Chevrolet Camaro Z28 RM ‘69
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C6) RM ‘06
Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) RM ‘09
Dodge Challenger R/T RM ‘70
Honda CIVIC TYPE R (EK) RM ‘97
Honda INTEGRA TYPE R (DC5) RM ‘04
Lexus IS F RM ‘07
Lotus Elise RM ‘96
Lotus Elise 111R RM ‘04
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR RM ‘05
Nissan SILVIA spec-R AERO (S15) RM ‘02
Subaru IMPREZA Sedan WRX STI spec C Type RA RM ‘05
Suzuki Cappuccino (EA21R) RM ‘95
TVR Tuscan Speed 6 RM ‘00
Volkswagen Golf IV GTI RM ‘01

Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Nov 23 2010, 07:58 PM
I bet Polyphony will release updates, either as patches or DLC, that add more "premium" cars or RM capable cars.

Posted by: Jardim Nov 23 2010, 11:11 PM
They definetly should add interior view to all standard cars like in GT PSP and also make those cars able to change wheels, bodykits and exhausts like the premium cars...at least!

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 23 2010, 11:22 PM
12.P AEM S2000 (SEMA Gran Turismo Awards 2005)
32.S Amuse S2000 GT1 ‘04
33.P Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo
34.S Amuse S2000 R1 ‘04
35.S Amuse S2000 Street Version ‘04
321.S Honda S2000 ‘99
322.S Honda S2000 ‘01
323.S Honda S2000 ‘03
324.P Honda S2000 ‘06
325.S Honda S2000 (EU) ‘99
326.S Honda S2000 (EU) ‘01
327.S Honda S2000 (EU) ‘03
328.S Honda S2000 (US) ‘99
329.S Honda S2000 (US) ‘01
330.S Honda S2000 (US) ‘04
331.S Honda S2000 LM Race Car
332.S Honda S2000 Type V ‘00
333.S Honda S2000 Type V ‘01
334.S Honda S2000 Type V ‘03
335.S Honda S2000 Type V (EU) ‘00
336.S Honda S2000 Type V (EU) ‘01
337.S Honda S2000 Type V (US) ‘00
338.S Honda S2000 Type V (US) ‘01
631.S Mugen MUGEN S2000 ‘00
783.S Opera Performance S2000 ‘04
850.S Spoon S2000 ‘00
851.S Spoon S2000 Race Car ‘00

See.... this is the kind of crap that pisses me off about GT....

Two things: they ACTUALLY consider these variations as different cars in their car count (and almost 30 miatas??). And, despite having so many of these "padding" cars, (off the top of my head) there's no first gen DSM, no 98-99 eclipse, no Hyundai Genesis of any kind, no Scion tC, xD, or updated xB, or Audi S5, no zonda F, no koenigsegg, no caparo T1, no arial atom, and oddly, no 370Z outside of a single tuned model... etc etc. I'm so sick of hearing "it's got 1000 cars."

http://www.gran-turismo.com/local/jp/data1/products/gt5/carlist_en.html

Posted by: chillined Nov 23 2010, 11:30 PM
They better. I'll probably get the PS3 just for this game, and maybe Black Ops. When I get out of the hospital, I'm looking forward to ripping Gran Turismo 5 with my G27.
EDIT: am3pkcet, I agree. That's rediculous. And so many cars were left out. I was looking forward to driving the Hyundai Genesis Coupe, but I guess it came out too late for the designers at PD to render the car. A standard model would have been fine, but oh well. I can't believe that there's no stock 370Z..

Posted by: Jardim Nov 23 2010, 11:31 PM
Most of those S2000s are standard, so the textures of one S2000 is probably the same texture as 3-6 others... You can't hate on the other ones though like Spoons and Mugens, because its a different car in terms of power, handling and aftermarket looks. But i hear you on the Eclipses and whatnot. It's B.S. hopefully we wont see in GT6.

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 23 2010, 11:37 PM
QUOTE (Jardim @ 6 minutes, 28 seconds ago)
Most of those S2000s are standard, so the textures of one S2000 is probably the same texture as 3-6 others... You can't hate on the other ones though like Spoons and Mugens, because its a different car in terms of power, handling and aftermarket looks.

These were the ones that got under my skin the most:

325.S Honda S2000 (EU) ‘99
326.S Honda S2000 (EU) ‘01
327.S Honda S2000 (EU) ‘03
328.S Honda S2000 (US) ‘99
329.S Honda S2000 (US) ‘01
330.S Honda S2000 (US) ‘04
335.S Honda S2000 Type V (EU) ‘00
336.S Honda S2000 Type V (EU) ‘01
337.S Honda S2000 Type V (US) ‘00
338.S Honda S2000 Type V (US) ‘01

QUOTE (chillined)
am3pkcet, I agree. That's rediculous. And so many cars were left out. I was looking forward to driving the Hyundai Genesis Coupe, but I guess it came out too late for the designers at PD to render the car. A standard model would have been fine, but oh well. I can't believe that there's no stock 370Z..

Luckily I have my terrible, crappy, cartoony Forza 3 to drive most of those tongue.gif

Posted by: chillined Nov 23 2010, 11:41 PM
If ya wanna get more pissed off, look at the Impreza list. And I don't care if they're different, we don't need 10+ imprezas. You know what I've noticed? The 2nd gen DSM they included is the base model ESi. Who the f**k cares about a NA FWD DSM?
EDIT: Haha, true say. I swear, my favorite thing about Forza 3 was the engine swaps that they included. GT5 would freakin be AWESOME with that feature. I'd love to have a K20 EK or EG civic.

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 23 2010, 11:49 PM
^See, that's my problem with PD. Yes, they make a great product, but its not without its flaws, and its as if they don't even care. They don't listen to critics, fans, or anyone who doesnt praise their Japan-centric car list and Japan-centric track list. They just plug their ears and do what they want, and with this method they get this really strange combination of pure excellence and pure garbage. Like I said, luckily I have a lot of other racing games to sink my teeth into.

Posted by: Jardim Nov 24 2010, 01:10 AM
QUOTE (chillined @ 1 hour, 40 minutes ago)
I can't believe that there's no stock 370Z..

This was to bad to be true so i just checked it to make sure.... The 370Z stock is indeed included in the game. It's under it's JDM name....

669 P Nissan Fairlady Z (Z34) '08

Posted by: WRX Nov 24 2010, 04:31 AM
Im back! ! ! Gonna love deep forest!

Posted by: RalliKai Nov 24 2010, 07:21 AM
Kazunori: A dozen Miata's, CHECK! More Skyline's, Silvia's and Impreza's then I can count, PERFECT!

PD Staff: What about the Hyundai Genesis sir?

Kazunori: Bah! I don't need that sullying my Japanese racing experience.


Despite that, I'm still looking forward to playing this game.

Posted by: Jardim Nov 24 2010, 07:57 AM
Just picked up my awesome.gif Edition of the game. 1:43 GT-R, keychain, Apex book and a certificate of authenticity is included. Dived into the course maker feature and let me tell you.....

TOUGE XTREME!

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Nov 24 2010, 12:04 PM
QUOTE (am3pkcet @ Today, 2:22 AM)
12.P AEM S2000 (SEMA Gran Turismo Awards 2005)
33.P Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo
34.S Amuse S2000 R1 ‘04
35.S Amuse S2000 Street Version ‘04
324.P Honda S2000 ‘06
331.S Honda S2000 LM Race Car
334.S Honda S2000 Type V ‘03
631.S Mugen MUGEN S2000 ‘00
783.S Opera Performance S2000 ‘04
850.S Spoon S2000 ‘00
851.S Spoon S2000 Race Car ‘00


Those should be the only ones in the game. Seeing how they are different specs. But I still get where you're coming from. PD needs to stop adding "filler" cars so they reach their 1000 car mark. Adding 10 Type V's, and different EU and US models is just bullshit. I can see adding maybe one US model just for the fact someone might want left hand drive. but still.. it's pretty bad

Oh, and: 669. P Nissan Fairlady Z (Z34) ‘08

370z.. Fairlady Z, same thing. wink2.gif

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 24 2010, 12:12 PM
Except the steering wheel is on the wrong side wink2.gif

Posted by: chillined Nov 24 2010, 02:03 PM
RalliKai, 12 < 21/22 Miatas...
And silly me, I should have noticed Z34, but being the JDM noob I am, I missed that. Why couldn't PD just put S2k or Skyline, or even Impreza, and then made a subsection for cars which had different models in that particular year...

Posted by: sideways Nov 24 2010, 02:56 PM
I want this game but am very nervous about getting it. Will the physics be as utterly horrible as gt4s? Im scared unsure.gif Maybe ill try and rent it first before i shell out the coin for a 60 dollar potential fail game. I was not pleased with the demo when I played that, Im only "hopeful" theyve corrected the horrible issues.

Posted by: chillined Nov 24 2010, 03:44 PM
Actually, the physics in GT4 was decent, until you lost traction... Then it all went to shit.

Posted by: Yoshida Seiji Nov 24 2010, 04:06 PM
GT4 was so unrealistic it's not even funny.

I'm so impressed with the physics in GT5 though. After playing that 370z demo, I had lost all hope to be honest. But man, the game feels amazing.

My stock ass AE86 really felt like how my actual stock ass AE86 handles. Plus the engine sounds are actually badass now.

Posted by: RalliKai Nov 24 2010, 04:12 PM
QUOTE (chillined @ 2 hours, 9 minutes ago)
RalliKai, 12 < 21/22 Miatas...
And silly me, I should have noticed Z34, but being the JDM noob I am, I missed that. Why couldn't PD just put S2k or Skyline, or even Impreza, and then made a subsection for cars which had different models in that particular year...

My bad then. tongue.gif Wasn't aware they were going with that many.

Won't be able to try GT5 till most likely Friday now. I was alittle concerned as well after playing the 370z demo but the word I'm hearing from everyone is encouraging.

Posted by: sideways Nov 24 2010, 05:18 PM
QUOTE (chillined @ 1 hour, 34 minutes ago)
Actually, the physics in GT4 was decent, until you lost traction... Then it all went to shit.

The physics in gt4 were as realistic as the physics in Initial D AS (albeit on the opposite spectrum). Its traction physics in all regards, even before you lose traction, were utter garbage. Sure it could be "fun" to race in, but there was 0 realism to gt4 beyond the fact that you accelerated between corners and slowed down at them.

Posted by: Boost1995 Nov 24 2010, 05:25 PM
I agree GT5 is great. I picked up my CE this morning. Been playing it all day. It seems to handle well, the graphics are great, and the game play is awesome.

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 24 2010, 05:39 PM
Another reason I hate PS3 in genral. I stop by Best Buy after work to pick up GT5 (coupons ftw; 45$ after tax). I get home at exactly 5:04. Since then, I have had to download and then install a PS3 System Update. Popped in GT5 and was greeted with "Please download this update patch 1.01" which is 133mb. Oh, and it had to install too, after downloading. At 5:35, I was greeted with the GT5 logo.... and then "It is recommended you install data on your HDD." After four minutes of sitting on the Installing Data screen with "Approx 20 min left" at the bottom and only two pixels of progress in the bar, I said f**k this and hit cancel. Ugh..... This keeps reminding me why I hate getting games for PS3....

Also, I love it when people tell me I'm an XBOX/Anti-GT/Forza fanboy:

user posted image

awesome.gif

Posted by: chillined Nov 24 2010, 06:42 PM
QUOTE (sideways @ 1 hour, 23 minutes ago)
The physics in gt4 were as realistic as the physics in Initial D AS (albeit on the opposite spectrum).  Its traction physics in all regards, even before you lose traction, were  utter garbage.  Sure it could be "fun" to race in,  but there was 0 realism to gt4 beyond the fact that you accelerated between corners and slowed down at them.

Oh true. Maybe I just don't remember how shit GT4 was tongue.gif I sold my PS2 and all my games like 4/3 years ago. And that GT collection is epic. awesome.gif
EDIT: Where's your G27/G25? haha laugh.gif

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 24 2010, 06:57 PM
QUOTE (chillined @ 14 minutes, 46 seconds ago)
And that GT collection is epic.  awesome.gif
EDIT: Where's your G27/G25? haha  laugh.gif

I was gonna buy one when GT5 was supposed to come out 3 years ago. I had no reason to buy one till GT5 came out cuz GT5p was a snooze-fest. I'm now debating if I want that or just the new Driving Force ps3 one for half as much. I like having labels on the buttons and it has better UI control for a PS3. Plus I have no use for an H-shifter, as I would likely exclusively use padels for racing. I just wanna know how much (if any) better the new DF wheel is compared to the original 900º wheel.

BTW, that other copy of GT5p is signed by driver Tanner Foust who, among his driving accomplishments, now hosts American Top Gear. I won it by beating him in a race in GT5p during a Formula D drifting event in Long Beach a year or two ago. awesome.gif

Posted by: BOZZ Nov 24 2010, 09:21 PM
QUOTE (am3pkcet @ 3 hours, 41 minutes ago)
Another reason I hate PS3 in genral. I stop by Best Buy after work to pick up GT5 (coupons ftw; 45$ after tax). I get home at exactly 5:04. Since then, I have had to download and then install a PS3 System Update. Popped in GT5 and was greeted with "Please download this update patch 1.01" which is 133mb. Oh, and it had to install too, after downloading. At 5:35, I was greeted with the GT5 logo.... and then "It is recommended you install data on your HDD." After four minutes of sitting on the Installing Data screen with "Approx 20 min left" at the bottom and only two pixels of progress in the bar, I said f**k this and hit cancel. Ugh..... This keeps reminding me why I hate getting games for PS3....

Also, I love it when people tell me I'm an XBOX/Anti-GT/Forza fanboy:

awesome.gif

Blame to the Blu Ray laser and discs... Apparently they are a lot slower than DVDs since there is more data to read and thus why installation of the games is apparently helpful in reducing the amount of reading off the disc.

It's sort of hit or miss... with releases where you have this long updates or installs.

Posted by: sideways Nov 24 2010, 10:09 PM
All my money goes into my real car tongue.gif Thus i have no game wheels.

Side note; Room mate surprised me by buying gt5 on the way home. Should have expected it. Gt5 is still imo very "arcadey" in a lot of senses, but a VAST improvement physics wise over the previous version. Steering with the controller is very "clunky" imo and a bit overly jerky- Which rather sucks, but its doable. I do feel that the game will come to life a bit more with a steering wheel, maybe ill throw one on my list of things to get.

Posted by: Yoshida Seiji Nov 24 2010, 10:27 PM
The game is completely different with a wheel.

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 24 2010, 10:27 PM
I've never once played any PS racing game that felt good with a controller; especially the GT games. In fact, that was one of the biggest draws for me to a 360 back in 2006. Playing PGR3 in a store kiosk I was blown away with how well it controlled with nothing but sticks and triggers. And since then, I've played PGR3, PGR4, DiRT, GRID, DiRT2, and Forza 3, all with flawless precision on a 360 controller. Maybe it's something to do with the PS controllers, or maybe its something in GT's design. But even when remapped to the "good" driving controls (L2/R2 accel/brake, [ ] downshift O upshift X e-brake, etc. instead of that whole silly business of using the right stick to accel and brake, or god forbid X and O), its still clunky and awkward with a controller. I originally got the wheel for GT games because, IMO, its impossible to control well enough without one.

Posted by: Nomake Wan Nov 24 2010, 10:40 PM
Wangan Midnight for PS3 played pretty good with a PS3 controller, but that's the only racing game that comes to mind for PS3 that I remember actually liking the controls for.

Posted by: sideways Nov 24 2010, 10:42 PM
QUOTE (am3pkcet @ 14 minutes, 49 seconds ago)
I've never once played any PS racing game that felt good with a controller; especially the GT games. In fact, that was one of the biggest draws for me to a 360 back in 2006. Playing PGR3 in a store kiosk I was blown away with how well it controlled with nothing but sticks and triggers. And since then, I've played PGR3, PGR4, DiRT, GRID, DiRT2, and Forza 3, all with flawless precision on a 360 controller. Maybe it's something to do with the PS controllers, or maybe its something in GT's design. But even when remapped to the "good" driving controls (L2/R2 accel/brake, [ ] downshift O upshift X e-brake, etc. instead of that whole silly business of using the right stick to accel and brake, or god forbid X and O), its still clunky and awkward with a controller. I originally got the wheel for GT games because, IMO, its impossible to control well enough without one.

Def a GT thing. I played enthusia on the ps2 with the sticks and loved how that game controlled in comparison. Gt5 feels like it just wants to "snap" at all times.

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 24 2010, 11:30 PM
My thoughts exactly: http://www.ign.com/videos/2010/11/24/gran-turismo-5-final-video-impressions

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Nov 24 2010, 11:54 PM
GT5 feels so niceeee. It doesn't even feel like your usual GT game.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/113/1136103p3.html

I think that 10/10 simulation wrapped in a 5/10 game quote wraps up that review pretty nicely. I agree with it. They could've improved on so many things. But I still enjoy it.

I'd still be playing it right now, but I was out drinking all night and am just now recovering.

Posted by: sideways Nov 25 2010, 03:26 AM
With a bit more seat time im just back to confirm my previous suspicion- The game is twitchy, horribly so (again: at least with the controller). Ive lost count now where ive been mid slide (hey at least we CAN finally slide!) and the sliiiightest tap for counter-steer has sent my car spinning alarmingly, and very unrealistically, in the exact opposite direction. Hopefully a wheel correct this nonsense, its rather frustrating.

Posted by: MattW Nov 25 2010, 04:43 AM
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Image size reduced, original size: 1024 x 682. http://media.cms.windingroad.com/autos_db/uploads/image/GT5_10__.jpg to view the image in its original dimension.

Lol standard model cars...

Posted by: Bubs Nov 25 2010, 05:58 AM
I'm not digging it. Considering PP's arrogance about the product, the game is quite half-baked in my opinion. Despite all of the complaints about the horrible AI, it seems they just went "Oh well, here's your Gran Turismo 5. Deal with it." It has been mentioned by a lot of people already that the premium cars look amazing, and the remaining 800+ cars look weird in many cases.

I'm glad IGN didn't give the game an instant 10/10 just because ZOMFG GT5!!!!! They recognize that while some of the game is great, a lot more of it sucks.

QUOTE
It's sad, then, that it's all wrapped up in a muddled menu system that utilises a code system that's archaic and far from user-friendly, displaying an ignorance of recent developments throughout the racing genre.


Shows my opinion perfectly. I honestly believe PP is arrogant about their product. It's almost like they ignored every other racing game, and even complaints about the GT series, because "OUR GAME IS THE BEST SIMULATION EVER!" 10/10 simulation wrapped in a 5/10 game indeed.

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Nov 25 2010, 12:05 PM
I seriously hope there's DLC, because the standard cars just look pathetic. They look like they're from Initial D Extreme Stage.

As a whole, I'm finding this game enjoyable and I'll be playing this for a longgg long time. I just hope Kaz gets his shit together and makes GT6 what this should've been. Japanese arrogance is killing video games. First, Final Fantasy XIII.. now Gran Turismo 5.

Also, what's the point of head tracking? If you look to the right or left you're not even looking at the TV. facepalm.gif

Posted by: MattW Nov 25 2010, 12:39 PM
QUOTE (Phantom_R32 @ 34 minutes, 34 seconds ago)
I seriously hope there's DLC, because the standard cars just look pathetic. They look like they're from Initial D Extreme Stage.

As a whole, I'm finding this game enjoyable and I'll be playing this for a longgg long time. I just hope Kaz gets his shit together and makes GT6 what this should've been. Japanese arrogance is killing video games. First, Final Fantasy XIII.. now Gran Turismo 5.

Also, what's the point of head tracking? If you look to the right or left you're not even looking at the TV. facepalm.gif

The standard cars are taken from GT4, just new textures over the old models.

Posted by: Jardim Nov 25 2010, 01:02 PM
QUOTE (Phantom_R32 @ 57 minutes, 0 seconds ago)
I seriously hope there's DLC, because the standard cars just look pathetic. They look like they're from Initial D Extreme Stage.

As a whole, I'm finding this game enjoyable and I'll be playing this for a longgg long time. I just hope Kaz gets his shit together and makes GT6 what this should've been. Japanese arrogance is killing video games. First, Final Fantasy XIII.. now Gran Turismo 5.

Also, what's the point of head tracking? If you look to the right or left you're not even looking at the TV. facepalm.gif

Kaz said in the Madrid launch party that the game will be constantly updated and DLC will be available frequently.

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 25 2010, 01:16 PM
QUOTE (Bubs @ 7 hours, 18 minutes ago)
I'm not digging it. Considering PP's arrogance about the product, the game is quite half-baked in my opinion. Despite all of the complaints about the horrible AI, it seems they just went "Oh well, here's your Gran Turismo 5. Deal with it." It has been mentioned by a lot of people already that the premium cars look amazing, and the remaining 800+ cars look weird in many cases.

I'm glad IGN didn't give the game an instant 10/10 just because ZOMFG GT5!!!!! They recognize that while some of the game is great, a lot more of it sucks.



Shows my opinion perfectly. I honestly believe PP is arrogant about their product. It's almost like they ignored every other racing game, and even complaints about the GT series, because "OUR GAME IS THE BEST SIMULATION EVER!" 10/10 simulation wrapped in a 5/10 game indeed.

To be honest.... after putting some time into GT5... it just makes me want to play Froza 3 again..... sad.gif

Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Nov 25 2010, 01:30 PM
So there's no car damage in this?

Also is the opening theme still Moon Over The Castle or did they change it like they always seem to do for the US?

Posted by: Bubs Nov 25 2010, 01:36 PM
QUOTE (ZeetherKID77 @ 6 minutes, 2 seconds ago)
So there's no car damage in this?

I honestly have no idea. I remember when there was a huge gloating s**tstorm about it because "finally, the greatest racing game in the entire world has damage!" followed up by some screenshots of really awful deformation. It does not seem like there is damage at all, confirmed by some other reports.

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 25 2010, 02:06 PM
QUOTE (Bubs @ 29 minutes, 52 seconds ago)
I honestly have no idea. I remember when there was a huge gloating s**tstorm about it because "finally, the greatest racing game in the entire world has damage!" followed up by some screenshots of really awful deformation. It does not seem like there is damage at all, confirmed by some other reports.

I've been pointing out all along that the "damage" being shown was a few select rally cars shown in extremely limited demos. People cried heresy at me for it, but hey, guess what, GT still doesnt have any worthwhile damage, and it's still bumper cars galore.

It's business as usual for the GT devs. It's clearly more important to have different variations of shiny paint reflections than anything else.

Posted by: Bubs Nov 25 2010, 02:36 PM
The GameFAQS board for GT5 is blowing up right now. I see a few common trends:

Someone points out an obvious problem with GT5. First response calls them a troll. Argument ensues.
Someone mentions the issue with how only one in five cars has a cockpit view, making the racing wheel they bought just for GT5 really awkward to use most of the time. First response calls them a troll. Argument ensues.
Someone says that they legitimately love GT5 despite its flaws. First response calls them a fanboy. Argument ensues.
Someone states their opinion that Forza 3 is better. First response says that's impossible, GT5 has more cars. Argument ensues.
GT fanboys using circular arguments to say GT5 is better.
Forza fanboys using circular arguments to say Forza 3 is better.

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 25 2010, 02:39 PM
Well I think it's at least safe to say that GT5 is the best racing game 2006 has to offer.

Posted by: Bubs Nov 25 2010, 02:45 PM
I've come to one final consensus:

GT Fanboys at GT4 release: The reviews say it's awesome, therefore it's awesome!
GT Fanboys at GT5 release: Don't listen to reviewers. GT5 is still awesome!

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 25 2010, 02:55 PM
Well thats the thing... when GT4 came out, there was nothing like it. It really was a one of kind, excellent racing experience. Yeah it didn't have damage, yeah it was bumper cars, yeah the AI was dumb as rocks, yeah the sound effects were beyond terrible, but overall, it was absoutely excellent. And the nitpicky downsides were greatly outweighed by how good the rest of the game is.

Now, GT5 is a lot better than GT4 in many things, but takes huge steps back in a few (like the UI; the map interface in GT4 was snappy and intuitive). Rather than taking the time or the effort to observe and learn from competing racing games, they chose to arrogantly ignore everyone else to just do their own thing, and if you don't like it you can suck a fat one. Hey, if it works for Apple.......

Honestly, it's not much against GT itself. It's still more of the same great game GT4 was.... the problem lies in that everyone else has significantly stepped up their games in the mean time, so GT carries much less weight and doesn't have a competative edge anymore.

Posted by: MattW Nov 25 2010, 02:59 PM
The last demo they had, the NASCAR stockcars definitely had damage.

Posted by: Bubs Nov 25 2010, 03:00 PM
I meant to stop posting, but this is worthwhile:

Gran Turismo Fanboy on car damage complaints:
And what's damage got to do with a competent driver?"

It's about the game being realistic. Cars bouncing off eachother has been part of the Gran Turismo series since the beginning. But, in this day and age, it is time for the series to grow up.

Gran Turismo Fanboy on the static, non-moving interior view:
"And when was it normal for a racing driver of any pedigree to look around at the car's interior. lol. You don't like the 'stale angle' then go race a real racing car, this is a video game."

...I thought the purpose of this game was to simulate driving, I don't know, a real racing car?

Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Nov 25 2010, 03:02 PM
I'd forgive all the game's faults and just be happy it's finally here after so long.

Now I want a PS3 badly.

Posted by: Bubs Nov 25 2010, 03:06 PM
QUOTE (ZeetherKID77 @ 3 minutes, 25 seconds ago)
I'd forgive all the game's faults and just be happy it's finally here after so long.

According to GameFAQS, you are instantly a fanboy and a communist sympathizer. tongue.gif

Posted by: Yoshida Seiji Nov 25 2010, 03:20 PM
GT5 is awesome. I am enjoying it quite a bit, and I don't even care. f**k yea

Posted by: sideways Nov 25 2010, 03:32 PM
Again. The more I play, the more im disliking this game.

The AI is still crap, at least now theyre AWARE of you, they just dont care.

The suggested line is horrible- I dont like relying on it, but its nice for maps you dont know yet- Sadly, its useless. The suggested line is so bad at times even the AI refuses to use it

Menus STILL suck. Small load times here and there are ok, but when youre going from sub menu to sub menu to submenu with a load time in between each, it gets old- fast.

The amount of poorly modeled cars is amazing, I understand why they are- But theres no excuse for that from this series, especially when you take into account how long theyve dragged out the development for this game (Even gayer when you consider that you cant swap rims on "standard" cars, wtf, seriously).

Also horribly let down by the gameplay. With the AI so bad I find myself falling into an old habit of every previous gt game- Getting money, building a fast car, and racing the slower ai cars, simply so i dont have to race WITH the ai. The only thing saving the game play for me are the special events.

Really the list of complaints for this long awaited and highly anticipated game can go on and on. In the end i feel like im left playing a game that has very little to show for its years of development. It really feels like they tweaked a few things from gt4, added some new models, and half-assed added the ability to oversteer. In the end I feel like im playing a game that should be competing with forza 2 (its amazing to think that in the time its taken them to release this game turn 10 has released not one, not two, but three forza games).


GT5. Bringing you yesterdays game, Today!

In the end I feel i I have to admit that after gt4, prologue, Hd, and various gt5 demos- the game is better than I thought it would be. Sadly it still doesnt measure up to what it SHOULD have been.


Edit:
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Well I think it's at least safe to say that GT5 is the best racing game 2006 has to offer.


Ive been sitting on hitting post far too long it seems. While i disagree about how great gt4 was (I personally think it sucked, enthusia was much more fun to me- and then forza 2 was there to occupy my interest)- This statement sums up completely how I feel about gt5.

PS...S: Also dislike the inability to actually mess with the AI in this game. Common sense and physics would tell me if i pushed a rear wheel driven vehicle to the side by its tail with the edge of my nose, it would send him spinning end for end. Gt5 (like other gt games) for some reason does not allow this, at best you can nudge and bump people. What in the physics is disallowing this? Of course its all fine for the AI when youre in THEIR way and they tap you- Which is accompanied by the single impact sound effect the game seems to have to offer no matter WHAT you hit, no matter the speed: *thud*.

Also think the whole "over 1000 cars!!!" fact is highly deceptive. I count no less than 23 FD variants. Each adding to the "1000 cars!!!" list.

Sigh. Oh well facepalm.gif

Posted by: Sensation! Nov 25 2010, 05:02 PM
i was seriously considering getting a PS3 for GT5 tomorrow until i started hearing the horror stories.

not to be picky about graphics

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but that's unacceptable. 1000 cars and 800 of them are straight PS2 ports? might as well just advertise your 200 premium models as the "full car list" instead :\

Posted by: Bubs Nov 25 2010, 05:16 PM
GameFAQS nerds would say "How dare you expect a company to make a 1,000 cars with that amazing detail?"

The problems with that:

Only the premium cars have interior views. This makes using a wheel incredibly awkward for the non-premium cars.
For all of the development time involved in this game, it is unacceptable to have two tiers of quality for vehicles. Completely unacceptable.

Sensation: Good thing you didn't waste your money. I didn't either, I was able to "enjoy" the game on a friend's borrowed PS3 with his GT5 copy.

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Nov 25 2010, 05:35 PM
There is damage in this game. The stuff you're seeing in arcade mode or at Lvl 1 is nothing compared to the damage you get around Lvl 20.

Posted by: laznlspeeddemon Nov 25 2010, 05:53 PM
Oh please, not having the inside interior view takes away from the having the wheel feeling.... Whatever!!! We did it for GT4 for the longest time and could enjoy the game, get over it!!! I seriously can't wait to get my copy on sunday once I'm back in town to pick up my game. Honestly, I am a fanboy, been one since I've played the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and now the 5th (which I can't wait for). If being a fanboy is wrong, I don't want to be right. They did what was right to make it feel realistic except for the part that you crash into people. In racing, yes it happens, but you don't try to crash into other cars. In F12010, crashing isn't realistic enough even though they have it. As long as GT series keeps improving and eventually gets it right and realistic, then I'm happy.

Posted by: sideways Nov 25 2010, 05:55 PM
Oh we know theres damage, and good damage at that. The point is only a fraction of the cars show it.

Posted by: Yoshida Seiji Nov 25 2010, 06:38 PM
QUOTE (sideways @ 3 hours, 6 minutes ago)
I count no less than 23 FD variants. Each adding to the "1000 cars!!!" list

Problem? awesome.gif rofl

So am I like...the only person that really loves this game?

Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Nov 25 2010, 06:55 PM
QUOTE (Bubs @ 3 hours, 49 minutes ago)
According to GameFAQS, you are instantly a fanboy and a communist sympathizer. tongue.gif

GameFAQs' opinions matter not to me. tongue.gif

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 25 2010, 07:32 PM
QUOTE (Yoshida Seiji @ 53 minutes, 42 seconds ago)
Problem? awesome.gif rofl

So am I like...the only person that really loves this game?

Nothing wrong with that. And in fact if you've not played a lot of the other great racing games, there's not much to complain about. Our collective gripes mostly come from the advancements that other developers have made in the past half-decade while Polyphony Digital had their fingers in their ears, busy re-hashing a racing game formula from the late 90's, made up of car models from 2004, and showing no overall growth as a series.

Posted by: Bubs Nov 25 2010, 07:39 PM
Exactly where I stand. A lot of the things that Polyphony ignored are a huge slap in the face for everyone who waited six years, delay after delay, for this game to come out. As I said before, Polyphony looks downright arrogant in some of these decisions.

Posted by: Yoshida Seiji Nov 25 2010, 07:51 PM
QUOTE (am3pkcet @ 18 minutes, 36 seconds ago)
Nothing wrong with that. And in fact if you've not played a lot of the other great racing games, there's not much to complain about. Our collective gripes mostly come from the advancements that other developers have made in the past half-decade while Polyphony Digital had their fingers in their ears, busy re-hashing a racing game formula from the late 90's, made up of car models from 2004, and showing no overall growth as a series.

Well sure I have. I played Enthusia on a daily basis when it came out, every GT thus far, every Forza thus far, was totally addicted to Battle Gear for a while too.

Maybe I'm just not picky.

Posted by: sideways Nov 25 2010, 07:57 PM
Oh no its a "good game" by all means. Its just a let down in a lot of ways when you consider everything around it

Posted by: Yoshida Seiji Nov 25 2010, 07:58 PM
I can totally understand that.

Maybe I'm not let down because I didn't believe any of the hype anyway, didn't really expect a lot. laugh.gif

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 25 2010, 08:31 PM
QUOTE (ZeetherKID77 @ 7 hours, 1 minutes ago)
So there's no car damage in this?

Also is the opening theme still Moon Over The Castle or did they change it like they always seem to do for the US?

The credits intro vid is some drawn out piano melody and the "action" intro uses the new My Chemical Romance song "Planetary (Go!)".... facepalm.gif

Posted by: sideways Nov 25 2010, 08:38 PM
QUOTE (Yoshida Seiji @ 39 minutes, 46 seconds ago)
I can totally understand that.

Maybe I'm not let down because I didn't believe any of the hype anyway, didn't really expect a lot. laugh.gif

Ya same here, I actually had 0 hope for the game. Like ive said i have to admit, the game isbetter than i thought it would be laugh.gif

Posted by: ZeetherKID77 Nov 25 2010, 08:41 PM
QUOTE (am3pkcet @ 9 minutes, 23 seconds ago)
The credits intro vid is some drawn out piano melody and the "action" intro uses the new My Chemical Romance song "Planetary (Go!)".... facepalm.gif

Ugh, really?

Why do they ALWAYS remove Moon Over The Castle in the US version? It's a fantastically composed piece of music and very recognizable, MCR has NOTHING on it.

Posted by: MattW Nov 25 2010, 08:46 PM
QUOTE (am3pkcet @ 14 minutes, 22 seconds ago)
The credits intro vid is some drawn out piano melody and the "action" intro uses the new My Chemical Romance song "Planetary (Go!)".... facepalm.gif

From what I've heard, it's not that bad of a song.

Posted by: laznlspeeddemon Nov 25 2010, 08:46 PM
so can we get to actually racing now and stop worrying about gt5 news? Like, start up some friendly challenges?

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 25 2010, 08:50 PM
QUOTE (MattW @ 3 minutes, 49 seconds ago)
From what I've heard, it's not that bad of a song.

I guess its no worse than the Lenny Kravitz garbage from GT3. I still dont understand why they don't have Moon over the Castle.... They even had it in GT4...

Edit: also, I'm noticeing a LOOOTT of screen tearing and frame rate issues in GT5..... I'm playing at 1080p on a Sony KDL-40XBR9.

Posted by: Mr Deap Nov 26 2010, 07:23 AM
I bought the game, here some screenshots

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Posted by: MattW Nov 26 2010, 08:45 AM
QUOTE (am3pkcet @ Yesterday, 11:50 PM)
I guess its no worse than the Lenny Kravitz garbage from GT3.  I still dont understand why they don't have Moon over the Castle.... They even had it in GT4...

Edit: also, I'm noticeing a LOOOTT of screen tearing and frame rate issues in GT5.....  I'm playing at 1080p on a  KDL-40XBR9.

Whoa whoa whoaaaa, that Lenny song from GT3 was friggen AWESOME.

Oh, and I REALLY wanna take a stockcar out onto the highway loop.

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Nov 26 2010, 02:58 PM
Where the hell is the Time Trial leaderboard? Screw racing, I mainly play GT5 games for Time Trials. Dumb move for excluding that, PD. Really dumb.


Posted by: RalliKai Nov 26 2010, 03:57 PM
I got used to playing GT3 and 4 with the standard controller and had few issues with that method. Using the controller in GT5 though made handling feel off or just alittle floaty imo.
The physics are nice improvement though. It's nice being able to get oversteer easier.
I was disappointed by some of the exclusions I noticed from previous games, atleast from the standard dealership. Load times have been an irritation aswell.


Playing this game on a standard television hasn't been the best of experiences either. pinch2.gif

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 26 2010, 07:03 PM
QUOTE (RalliKai @ 3 hours, 6 minutes ago)
Playing this game on a standard television hasn't been the best of experiences either. pinch2.gif

I'd have to say the biggest thing about the visuals are that they are wildly inconsistant. There are some things which literally make my eyes pop. Driving through Rome in a Premium car is just stunning. However driving through one of the re-hash in-house courses, especially the new one, inspire not much more than bland, dreary, flat, low quality feelings. Its odd that given the amount of time spent on the game, there's so much that feels like corners have been cut.

Posted by: RalliKai Nov 26 2010, 08:22 PM
I was meaning more on trying to read through the menu's and other text on a standard definition.
I do agree with you though about graphical inconsistency. I drove through Trial Mountain and shrugged at it. The rally tracks and ones with changing time and conditions can be quite pleasing to see.

Posted by: MattW Nov 26 2010, 08:53 PM
You can't slam the sticks around to turn either...you gotta move them slowly and at most like 5mm off center.

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Nov 26 2010, 09:32 PM
So I've been obsessed with photo mode. I just started using it, so I know I'm bad. I welcome harsh critics. smile.gif

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Posted by: MattW Nov 26 2010, 11:33 PM
I want you all to get in a quick road car, and lap the Le Mans where the time and weather changes. Incredible doesn't even begin to describe what it's like while the sun is setting and through the night.

Posted by: sideways Nov 27 2010, 11:02 AM
Indeed. Some things are so amazing, others are just, well unsure.gif

Posted by: TheWhiteEagle Nov 27 2010, 12:53 PM
QUOTE (Phantom_R32 @ Yesterday, 9:32 PM)
So I've been obsessed with photo mode. I just started using it, so I know I'm bad. I welcome harsh critics. smile.gif

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Damn, the first, third, and fifth picture look so real I had a hard time trying to distinguish it from computer graphics awesome.gif . Damn it, now I really want a PS3 so I can get this game! Maybe I can when Christmas comes up, but I doubt it crying2.gif .

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 27 2010, 03:49 PM
Sweet! Another 133mb incrimental update patch thats going to take another 15 minutes to download and 5-10 minutes to install. Two? In four days? After six years of development? .............. facepalm.gif

Edit: just had another thought.... they have the Top Gear Test Track (which, btw, makes me want to rip my eyes out driving that crappy VW bus), and yet.... they have no Suzuki Liana, Chevrolet Lacetti, or Kia Cee'd. Miss the point much, PD?

Ugh.... there isn't a facepalm image big enough for this game...

Posted by: Takeshi Nakazato Nov 27 2010, 09:58 PM
here are some of my pics
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Posted by: sideways Nov 28 2010, 12:52 AM
QUOTE (am3pkcet @ 9 hours, 2 minutes ago)
Sweet! Another 133mb incrimental update patch thats going to take another 15 minutes to download and 5-10 minutes to install. Two? In four days? After six years of development? .............. facepalm.gif

Edit: just had another thought.... they have the Top Gear Test Track (which, btw, makes me want to rip my eyes out driving that crappy VW bus), and yet.... they have no Suzuki Liana, Chevrolet Lacetti, or Kia Cee'd. Miss the point much, PD?

Ugh.... there isn't a facepalm image big enough for this game...

Ya they really missed out on a LOT of potentially awesome tracks.

Posted by: Rudy Nov 28 2010, 01:31 AM
I almost can't believe those are game pictures.

Posted by: chillined Nov 28 2010, 01:51 AM
Eh, I can. They're not gameplay pictures, they're photo-op pictures. Now if those were gameplay pictures, I'd be glad to shut up and just stand in awe.

Posted by: sideways Nov 28 2010, 03:40 AM
What he said. Forza 3 got a lot of shit because they did the same thing. The photo-mode models are not the in-game driving models. Pissed off a lot of people.

Posted by: MattW Nov 28 2010, 09:45 AM
Here's an actual gameplay shot.
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Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 28 2010, 10:07 AM
^ Unless those are screen caps from live gameplay, its still not "actual gameplay." It's a single-frame, rendered image based on gameplay. Which means it's going to have smooth edges, no jaggies, better motion blur and focus blur, and generally a much higher quality image than is actually seen in-game while playing.

Posted by: BlackSubaru Nov 28 2010, 01:30 PM
^so what yer sayin is, you cant take photos of gameplay. there is no screen capture that i am aware of.

unless your tv can do that...

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Nov 28 2010, 02:04 PM
Whether it be gameplay or photomode, it's from a video game and it's making cars look almost realistic. That's pretty impressive, in my opinion.

Just imagine next gen racing games. It'll probably be the real thing.


Posted by: Takeshi Nakazato Nov 28 2010, 02:32 PM
I agree with Phantom, its very impressive non the less. Grant it I wish all cars looked like premium cars and all tracks were rendered much more better. But personally I am enjoying this game very much which the better sound, physics and smoke effects


Phantom, when are going to do some wangan runs?

Posted by: chillined Nov 28 2010, 03:36 PM
I don't ever recall saying that I'm not impressed. I just said that I can believe it, because it's not REAL(-Time) gameplay. It is impressive. And Graphics are just a little part of racing games. I just hope the physics in the game is improved. Take Live for Speed for an example. Shitty f**kin' graphics, but yet world famous for great physics.

(Can Anyone confirm that in the premium cars, the steering wheel turn proportional to the amount on their wheel controller?)

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 28 2010, 05:16 PM
QUOTE (BlackSubaru)
^so what yer sayin is, you cant take photos of gameplay. there is no screen capture that i am aware of.

unless your tv can do that...

What I mean is that the photo mode is not what the game looks like. They take several seconds to render out a single frame because they smooth out all the imperfections and add a lot of effects that aren't in real time. If someone were running the video feed into a computer and taking screen captures of actual gameplay, it would look significantly different. Still good (assuming you are driving a premium car on a well built track), but not nearly as good as the rendered images.

QUOTE (chillined @ 1 hour, 40 minutes ago)
(Can Anyone confirm that in the premium cars, the steering wheel turn proportional to the amount on their wheel controller?

Not whatsoever. Wheels on screen turn maybe a max of 30º in either direction.

Posted by: lance Nov 28 2010, 06:25 PM
zomg! LFA and FD2?!?!?! i wants quick! is it easy to get such cars ?

Posted by: MattW Nov 28 2010, 07:15 PM
QUOTE (lance @ 49 minutes, 45 seconds ago)
zomg! LFA and FD2?!?!?! i wants quick! is it easy to get such cars ?

LOL. No. This is Gran Turismo.

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 28 2010, 08:10 PM
QUOTE (MattW @ 55 minutes, 40 seconds ago)
LOL. No. This is Gran Turismo.

Yeah, you need to plow through endless events with little japanese shitbox cars for hours on end first.

God forbid they do what Forza did and build a career around whatever car(s) you want.

Posted by: MattW Nov 28 2010, 08:16 PM
You can rake money in during the challenges.

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 28 2010, 08:25 PM
Yeah, like driving that aweosme VW bus around the Top Gear Test Track...... facepalm.gif

Posted by: MattW Nov 28 2010, 08:27 PM
Intermediate NASCAR events, and the Karting ones.

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 28 2010, 10:52 PM
From what I read online, the only way to unlock the Top Gear test track for use in Practice or Arcade mode is to get Gold in the VW Bus event. That has got to be the most not-fun and painstakingly, mind-numbingly horrible idea in the history of unlocking things. Ugh....

Posted by: Takeshi Nakazato Nov 28 2010, 11:05 PM
amp3kcet, i currently still have not done that race because i hate it

Me and Phantom R32 just had a pretty fun session with wangan runs and trial mt togue race! fun times

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 28 2010, 11:25 PM
I just spent the last half hour or so doing it. I kind of wanted to kill myself, but at least its done now. The only way to do it is super late braking and using the other vans as walls when you can while weaving between them. I really want that portion of my life back. Whoever put that in as an unlock requirement should really be shot; for two reasons. One, its a stupid, ridiculous, awful, awful event. Two, there's NO indication on how or even IF the TG track is unlockable at all. I had to google for quite a while until I stumbled onto a forum discussing it. facepalm.gif

Posted by: Tomo Nov 29 2010, 12:57 AM
QUOTE (am3pkcet @ 4 hours, 46 minutes ago)
Yeah, you need to plow through endless events with little japanese shitbox cars for hours on end first.

God forbid they do what Forza did and build a career around whatever car(s) you want.

you are still playing this game right? if you love forza so much why don't you just eject gran turismo 5 from your PS3, power up forza, and stop torturing yourself and everyone else by continuing to play a game you hate and constantly criticize on this forum.

Honestly I think it'd best for everyone, especially for yourself.

Posted by: sideways Nov 29 2010, 03:13 AM
QUOTE (am3pkcet @ 4 hours, 21 minutes ago)
From what I read online, the only way to unlock the Top Gear test track for use in Practice or Arcade mode is to get Gold in the VW Bus event. That has got to be the most not-fun and painstakingly, mind-numbingly horrible idea in the history of unlocking things. Ugh....

They need to release the american top gear track if you ask me. Im also finding the "unlockables" in gt5 annoying. Im down for playing the game to unlock things, even if some things are a challenge- but some of this stuff is just so stupid..

Posted by: chillined Nov 29 2010, 05:15 AM
QUOTE (am3pkcet @ Yesterday, 5:16 PM)
QUOTE (chillined)
(Can Anyone confirm that in the premium cars, the steering wheel turn proportional to the amount on their wheel controller?)
Not whatsoever. Wheels on screen turn maybe a max of 30º in either direction.

Then you can count me out as a Gran Turismo 5 player. What the hell were PD thinking when making GT5? That function bothered me hardcore in NFS: Shift, I do NOT like it one bit.

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 29 2010, 06:52 AM
QUOTE (Tomo @ 5 hours, 54 minutes ago)
you are still playing this game right? if you love forza so much why don't you just eject gran turismo 5 from your PS3, power up forza, and stop torturing yourself and everyone else by continuing to play a game you hate and constantly criticize on this forum.

Honestly I think it'd best for everyone, especially for yourself.

I don't hate it; in fact there's a lot to like. What I do hate is the complete lack of progress GT has made as a series in addition to several other shortcomings that you'd think would have been addressed with over six years of development.

And actually, yeah, GT has motivated me to pick up FM3 again, and I'm railing my way through the sixth season. wink2.gif

Posted by: MattW Nov 29 2010, 07:29 AM
QUOTE (chillined @ 2 hours, 13 minutes ago)
Not whatsoever. Wheels on screen turn maybe a max of 30º in either direction.[/QUOTE]
Then you can count me out as a Gran Turismo 5 player. What the hell were PD thinking when making GT5? That function bothered me hardcore in NFS: Shift, I do NOT like it one bit.

99% of the time, you shouldn't have to turn the steering wheel more than 90 degrees while you're racing.


Oh, and I have a feeling Clarkson was the one who designed that VW challenge, haha.

Posted by: JKaiba Nov 29 2010, 09:59 AM
Not sure what you all are complaining about. I got through that VW challenge in 1st place in about 3 wholehearted attempts (about 10 if you count attempts with me restarting from trying to get the hang of the bus' handling and shift points). I got through that clean without having to use the other vans as 'assists'. You've actually got a lot of track you can use to accelerate your piece of junk that the other buses don't even touch which makes it easy to avoid them on overtaking. I also got gold in all of b license in about an hour after picking up the game. I don't exactly have all the time in the world either as those of you who know my work schedule are familiar with but I managed to plow through quite a bit of stuff available through level 10 drivers that I'm hoping there's a lot more to this game that what I'm seeing.

Posted by: Tomo Nov 29 2010, 10:32 AM
QUOTE (am3pkcet @ 3 hours, 40 minutes ago)
I don't hate it; in fact there's a lot to like. What I do hate is the complete lack of progress GT has made as a series in addition to several other shortcomings that you'd think would have been addressed with over six years of development.

And actually, yeah, GT has motivated me to pick up FM3 again, and I'm railing my way through the sixth season. wink2.gif

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there are too many positives to me for me to be held down by some things that make others unhappy, but I guess thats why there are so many other racing games out there right? everyone has their own preferences.

i love this game

Posted by: Jardim Nov 29 2010, 10:50 AM
So far i have seen a lot of complaints here......If you don't like what PD did to the game...wait until GT6.

I like the game, despite it's cons. And knowing it's a game for the PS3 that came out in 2010 i know there will be DLC and patches to further enhance my playability. Online lounges are sick! Nothing better than a old school drift session or a lap on the ring with rain and time change =)

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 29 2010, 11:37 AM
QUOTE (Tomo @ 1 hour, 3 minutes ago)
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there are too many positives to me for me to be held down by some things that make others unhappy, but I guess thats why there are so many other racing games out there right?  everyone has their own preferences. 

I guess my attitude comes from the frustration of waiting soo long for a game that has been immensely hyped only to be given a big pile of the same old problems that have plagued GT for generations (in addition to plenty of new ones). I want to love this game and there are still a lot of good things, but it seems to keep finding new ways to break my heart.

Like I showed earlier, I'm probably one of the http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/5285/gtgtgtgt.jpg you'll find, including having a GT5p signed by Tanner Foust, and a save file for GT4 from 2005 with 97% completion. But in the absense of a real GT game since 4, my eyes were opened up to a LOT of really good racing alternatives, like Project Gotham Racing, Forza, and DiRT/GRID.

QUOTE (Jardim @ 46 minutes, 42 seconds ago)
So far i have seen a lot of complaints here......If you don't like what PD did to the game...wait until GT6.

Yeah, when they re-release the same thing in 15 years? laugh.gif

Posted by: MattW Nov 29 2010, 12:05 PM
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Posted by: chillined Nov 29 2010, 12:09 PM
QUOTE (MattW @ 4 hours, 40 minutes ago)
QUOTE (chillined)
Then you can count me out as a Gran Turismo 5 player. What the hell were PD thinking when making GT5? That function bothered me hardcore in NFS: Shift, I do NOT like it one bit.

99% of the time, you shouldn't have to turn the steering wheel more than 90 degrees while you're racing.


Oh, and I have a feeling Clarkson was the one who designed that VW challenge, haha.

Doesn't matter, the fact that I don't know where my steering wheel is past 30 degrees is beyond annoying and unrealistic.

Posted by: Yoshida Seiji Nov 29 2010, 12:11 PM
Oh christ.

Have any of you guys hit level 40 yet?

Posted by: MattW Nov 29 2010, 12:14 PM
Nah, I'm only at level 11.

If any of you come across the Volvo 240 GLT, mind trading me one?

Posted by: Takeshi Nakazato Nov 29 2010, 12:18 PM
ive only hit level 16

Posted by: sideways Nov 29 2010, 01:56 PM
QUOTE (MattW @ 6 hours, 26 minutes ago)
Then you can count me out as a Gran Turismo 5 player. What the hell were PD thinking when making GT5? That function bothered me hardcore in NFS: Shift, I do NOT like it one bit. [/QUOTE]
99% of the time, you shouldn't have to turn the steering wheel more than 90 degrees while you're racing.


Oh, and I have a feeling Clarkson was the one who designed that VW challenge, haha.

My corolla would beg to differ on its stock rack laugh.gif

Posted by: 08TTGSL Nov 29 2010, 02:02 PM
man farming for cash is hard work in this game.....thank god for bday feature exploit lol

Posted by: chillined Nov 29 2010, 10:49 PM
That is a BADASS Camaro MattW.

Posted by: sideways Nov 29 2010, 10:57 PM
Didnt think about this

ADD ME TO YOUR FRIEND LISTS, SIDEWAYSGTS


Posted by: MattW Nov 29 2010, 11:00 PM
QUOTE (chillined @ 10 minutes, 45 seconds ago)
That is a BADASS Camaro MattW.

Thanks.
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Posted by: sideways Nov 29 2010, 11:02 PM
Never thought about getting a screen shot when that comes along. I was laughing the first time I saw that screen, first thing i bought in-game was a kart. dun dun dun!!! *gokart*. oh :\

Posted by: MattW Nov 29 2010, 11:24 PM
I took that picture while doing donuts at SSR5, haha.

Also, I did the same thing with buying the kart. :\

Posted by: Boost1995 Nov 30 2010, 12:13 AM
I hit level 13 tonight.

There are a few things that agervate me but only one worth mentioning. I really hate that thud that comes from a rear end crash.

The game reminds me if gt3 with more content. Overall I'm pleased.

Posted by: laznlspeeddemon Nov 30 2010, 03:06 AM
I've hit lvl 10, got all but 2 licenses and only 1 test is keeping me from having all silvers so far for IB...

Posted by: orion Nov 30 2010, 04:04 AM
i got the game today and have played it for about 6 hours, so far i like it and i dont think there is too much that bothers me, the AI can be annoying at times though.

does anyone use a wheel here? i myself use a g25, i really should invest in one of those wheel stands but the cost too much and i cbf making one myself.

got both my a and b licenses, although i didnt get the gold license for A, i cant get gold on the cone slalom damn it. i really suck at that sort of driving. and was it just me or was there a 1st gen mazda cosmo in one of the b license races? (the car in my ava) i hope it was so hopefully it can be bought.

liking the used car dealer a lot, never played gt4 but it was a feature that i missed in gt3.

my psn is boat13 if you want to add me.

Posted by: Rudy Nov 30 2010, 06:58 AM
Question: Is it the same takes-long-as-ass licensing system?

Posted by: MattW Nov 30 2010, 09:14 AM
Yup. It's so easy though.

Posted by: chillined Nov 30 2010, 09:18 AM
The license system is awesome, whatchu talking about? And wtf is up with you and posting on every thread on the first page of the gaming section?
EDIT: To clarify, this was at AJ (Midnight Drifter). (I think that's his name..) pinch2.gif

Posted by: MattW Nov 30 2010, 09:30 AM
QUOTE (chillined @ 12 minutes, 3 seconds ago)
The license system is awesome, whatchu talking about? And wtf is up with you and posting on every thread on the first page of the gaming section?
EDIT: To clarify, this was at AJ (Midnight Drifter). (I think that's his name..) pinch2.gif

He does that. Look at the Auto section too, the top, ehhhh, 15 threads at least once a week are all posts from him.

Posted by: Shirogane Nov 30 2010, 09:54 AM
QUOTE (chillined @ 36 minutes, 4 seconds ago)
The license system is awesome, whatchu talking about? And wtf is up with you and posting on every thread on the first page of the gaming section?
EDIT: To clarify, this was at AJ (Midnight Drifter). (I think that's his name..) pinch2.gif

Blame Moby and his contest. laugh.gif Be glad it's ending today...

Posted by: Jardim Nov 30 2010, 01:25 PM
QUOTE (am3pkcet @ Yesterday, 2:37 PM)
Yeah, when they re-release the same thing in 15 years?  laugh.gif

And if your not happy then, wait another 15 years.

@MattW: Saw some noob drifting yesterday with the 240 wagon.......thing looks sick sideways. And the NASCAR wheels you got on your '10 camaro are also on my 69 Camaro....This game is so awsome!!

EDIT: Matt, i got a 240... 64,000 km its yours if you want it.

Posted by: MattW Nov 30 2010, 03:28 PM
I do want it. My PSN thinger is UKOG-Matt.

Posted by: 08TTGSL Nov 30 2010, 03:55 PM
oh man u guys down to trade some cars? looking to expand my stuff.

Posted by: am3pkcet Nov 30 2010, 11:21 PM
Just cuz I was curious, I did a quick comparisson of a Standard car vs a Premium car. The difference is.... well... I guess I wouldn't be proud of the 800 blocky, pixelated-textured Standard models....

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*shrugs*


At least the premium models that are there look absolutely fantastic.

Posted by: chillined Nov 30 2010, 11:56 PM
lmfao, standard models look like f**kin' shit. I can't believe the PD would let that slide. But I guess that's only in closer views.

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Dec 1 2010, 12:18 AM
So uh... I beat that "hard" Top Gear challenge with the VW Bus. Took me about 3 tries. The Intermediate Lotus event is pretty easy too once you learn how to control it, since it likes to slide a lot.

Posted by: orion Dec 1 2010, 02:55 AM
been rocking the 61 jag e-type for all the races that are resticted to classic cars and i am suprised that the brits didnt invent drifting cause i was allways more sideways then straight.

which specific rx7 model is a premium? i will add it to my 'must get' list

Posted by: am3pkcet Dec 1 2010, 06:54 AM
QUOTE (orion @ 3 hours, 59 minutes ago)
which specific rx7 model is a premium? i will add it to my 'must get' list

The pattern seems to be anything from a dealership is premium and anything from the used car is standard. It can be had directly from the Mazda dealership.

Posted by: lance Dec 1 2010, 09:14 AM
lol i noticed alot of the shadows are jst black boxes

Posted by: Tessou Dec 1 2010, 10:28 AM
QUOTE (chillined @ Today, 3:56 AM)
lmfao, standard models look like f**kin' shit. I can't believe the PD would let that slide. But I guess that's only in closer views.

Agreed. They're pulling a Forza here in that they seem to be recycling the previous game's car models to pad numbers.

Posted by: Phantom_R32 Dec 1 2010, 11:23 AM
I really wanna punch this guy in face.

YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwE5rf-pbhY )


Not because of what he's saying about GT5, because some of it is true. But for being a total douchebag.

Posted by: am3pkcet Dec 1 2010, 11:28 AM
QUOTE (Tessou @ 1 hour, 0 minutes ago)
Agreed. They're pulling a Forza here in that they seem to be recycling the previous game's car models to pad numbers.

At least the previous Forza title was only 2 years earlier and on the same generation platform. These models are straight from GT4's six-year-old PS2 glory. It's like they weren't even trying.

Posted by: chillined Dec 1 2010, 11:55 AM
^ True. It seems like they were just like, eh, we don't wanna model 1000+ cars over again, so we'll just import the older modeling system and the car models and integrate it into the new GT5. That way we'll have 1000+ cars and only 200 or so of them will be premium! Haha, stupid fanboys!

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What idiots. With the time they had to develop and make GT5 so much better, they failed to make the game that we all wanted. Physics were improved, which is a definite plus, but models are freakin' horrible. How can they positively think they could do this without even altering the previous designs and making lines more vivid and smooth? I mean pixelated f**kin' cars/edges? What year is it, 2000? Seriously... But honestly, they did a GRAND effort on the premium cars, so 800 or so cars of 1000+, I guess we'll just have to suck it up and enjoy older models... I can't believe they didn't even bother to refine the older models. They had more than enough time. And I don't care if it takes a really long time, because the game release DID take a long freakin' time. mad.gif

Posted by: am3pkcet Dec 1 2010, 12:03 PM
I remember reading somewhere that the difinitive tagline for GT5 is pretty much "We waited six years for this?"

Not to say it's a bad game by any means, but a game that took more than half a decade to come out shouldn't feel like 10-month rush job. Then again, Too Human was "in development" for even longer, and that game was terrible. lol.

Posted by: orion Dec 1 2010, 02:06 PM
QUOTE (Phantom_R32 @ 2 hours, 42 minutes ago)
I really wanna punch this guy in face.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwE5rf-pbhY

Not because of what he's saying about GT5, because some of it is true. But for being a total douchebag.

i really wonder what this guys beef is with sony and grand turismo. did KY run over his dog or something? why go to the effort of making yourself look like an idiot on the internet.i agree with some of what he says, but his opinion is also flawed saying things like the music is bad (which is too subjective and not a valid point really) and that they dont feature the rewind like in forza (well thats forzas idea, what were you expecting GTF5.3?). a possitive with GT5 is i can use my g25 wheel ingame, couldnt do that in forza.

at the end of the day i enjoy the game and am glad i bought it, i have gripes about it and it is not perfect, but it is still a very fine and fun game imo.

for the record i dont own a 360 and have never played forza, comparing them to someone like me is a but redundant.

Posted by: am3pkcet Dec 1 2010, 03:36 PM
^ I will agree though that the lack of a rewind/flashback system is QUITE apparent. There's really not many more frustrating things than being on the last lap of a long race and the idiot AI decided to cut directly into your line and spin you out; making any hope of a gold finish as dented as your car would be if it had real damage.

Posted by: RalliKai Dec 1 2010, 04:40 PM
I gave the Vanagon challenge a few solid attempts but just couldn't muster the patients to try to get the gold with it. Has to be the most frustrating challenge I've run into so far. Other then that, I've actually been enjoying the game so far. Have to admit, I still do most of my races through the traditional front facing camera angle rather then through the cockpit view.

Posted by: am3pkcet Dec 1 2010, 05:23 PM
Is there any way to universally turn off traction controll for all cars? It seems every time I get a new car TCS is set to 5.

Posted by: orion Dec 1 2010, 05:36 PM
QUOTE (am3pkcet @ 12 minutes, 12 seconds ago)
Is there any way to universally turn off traction controll for all cars? It seems every time I get a new car TCS is set to 5.

was wondering the same thing myself, its annoying to change it all the time, and the fact that once you have started a race you cant change it without quiting then having to reload the whole thing shits me.

rallikai: if you think the vanagon challange is tough try the lotus one, i dont think there could be any less grip possible unamused.gif

Posted by: Type R Dec 1 2010, 07:15 PM
My collector's edition just arrived. The game is alright but what really sucks is the shitty blurry dashboards. I'm using a 26" LG 720p, but from what I've read, some people are actually trying to run their game in 720 rather 1080. Sounds wrong. Don't understand how the premium cars look so bad.

I would assume it's the tv if it weren't for prologue running like a champ. Maybe I am missing some options, or something.

Posted by: MattW Dec 1 2010, 07:45 PM
FYI, it's not a Vanagon, it's a Microbus.

Posted by: am3pkcet Dec 1 2010, 11:09 PM
QUOTE (Type R @ 3 hours, 53 minutes ago)
My collector's edition just arrived. The game is alright but what really sucks is the shitty blurry dashboards. I'm using a 26" LG 720p, but from what I've read, some people are actually trying to run their game in 720 rather 1080. Sounds wrong. Don't understand how the premium cars look so bad.

I would assume it's the tv if it weren't for prologue running like a champ. Maybe I am missing some options, or something.

I haven't noticed much about blurry dashboards, but I play at 1080p and notice MASSIVE screen tearing almost all the time.

Posted by: orion Dec 2 2010, 01:46 AM
i play at 1080i and i havent had any of those issues, then again i am only running on a 27inch tv, i did get tearing in gt5p though

Posted by: HashiriyaR32 Dec 2 2010, 09:24 AM
Check out the underside of this Mine's R34

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Take a look at the bottom flank.....

Posted by: MattW Dec 2 2010, 10:33 AM
Ahahahahaha AutoArt. Awesome.

Posted by: chillined Dec 2 2010, 11:16 AM
QUOTE (HashiriyaR32 @ 1 hour, 51 minutes ago)
Check out the underside of this Mine's R34

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc235/Nismo_Skyline_GTR/EifelCircuit.jpg

Take a look at the bottom flank.....

lmfao, nice. At least they went through the process of getting scale models to replicate them. AutoArt is one of the better companies aren't they? I have a R34 Spec V 1/24 model of theirs, and the quality is outstanding.

Posted by: am3pkcet Dec 2 2010, 11:26 AM
AutoArt makes some great stuff. I have the http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz300/skyline77/untitled1.jpg and an RX-8. Really nice cars and they've got a lot higher build quality than Bburago and Maisto (though, I still like Maisto cuz they have spring suspensions!).

Anyway... with that said, it's still another pretty funny corner-cutting measure that's another great example of PD's laziness.

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