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> How do i make my car faster While passing smog?, what parts can i put in my car?
DeeezNuuuts83
Posted: Jul 6 2009, 08:28 PM


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QUOTE (Midnight Drifter @ Jul 4 2009, 12:09 AM)
I'll tell you what, the Z31 is a great car to throw illegal mods onto if you keep it stock; it's not exactly as 'pull me over' as, say, an Acura Integra or an Eclipse.

But your odds of a Cop doing something as insane and out of the blue as popping your hood? One in a million. laugh2.gif

At WORST you'll get a noise violation ticket with the wrong exhaust. (Read: too loud)

Just pay off the smogman. Simple and easy.

I love how you think everything is as easy as that.

Yes, the 300ZX is a bit less conspicuous than the cars that you mentioned, but it's usually the luck of the draw, like cmspaz said. I had one of the loudest mufflers on the market at the time with custom catback piping with no resonators for a few years before I finally got stopped for it... meanwhile, I know plenty of people in bone stock Evos and STIs who have been pulled over and asked to pop their hoods open.

You can't just pay off a smog check station. For one thing, they have to look out for narcs, so they won't just accept bribes from anyone. Also, not all places can fudge the results, though this depends on your state. A smog check isn't just a paper that says pass or fail that gets sent to the DMV, it has actual emissions test results listed on it with values for certain polluting gases from your tailpipe.
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Posted: Jul 9 2009, 11:00 PM


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SUSPENSION SUSPENSION SUSPENION.

Work on the handling and it'll feel faster I guarantee it. If you live in California or any state it is legal to transplant an engine of a later year into the car as long as you have all the right information they can't say anything about it. That would be the easiest (most expensive) way of doing so. Put a B18 into it and it'll feel like a rocket and just keep the stock acura exhaust to keep it undercover.
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Posted: Jul 10 2009, 05:50 PM


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QUOTE (Toshi @ Today, 12:00 AM)
If you live in California or any state it is legal to transplant an engine of a later year into the car as long as you have all the right information they can't say anything about it.

It's a tad more complicated than that. Obviously it also has to be a USDM motor, and you're supposed to get some sort of paperwork stating the source of the engine being legitimate and not stolen.
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Posted: Jul 10 2009, 06:28 PM


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Car tuning should always go as folows
All parts restored to 100% working order
Tires
Suspension
Brakes
Driveshafts/driveline
Chassis stiffening
Intake and exaust
Engine rebuild
Basic Weight reduction
Racing seat
Power upgrades
Roll cage
Drastic weight reduction

In that order. You could also try NOT driving an integra.

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Its really quite easy. Go to junk yard. Pull motor. Pull vin. Verify it. Install. Keep vin install it in new car where it matches the block.

Friend did it with a USDM Type-R block into a DA. No hassle
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Posted: Jul 11 2009, 03:00 AM


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Posted: Jul 29 2009, 11:31 AM


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QUOTE (WanganComet @ Jun 20 2009, 10:17 AM)
i wanted to know if anyone could help me out. i want to put some parts in my DA and my Z31 but i still want them to pass emissions. i am new to tuning since my dad did all my cars tuning when i was young and would like to start tuning my self.

Gut the interior, AC, and any other accessories you don't need. remove the passenger seat as well.
Is it a Slick Top or Ttop? the T was heavier to start with...
Spare and scissor jack too.
If you have the stock rims, get new ones, the stocks are killer heavy...

less wight for the motor to pull = faster accell...

But for top speed, the Shiro 88 SS was the fastest car out of japan at the time. i doubt a normal Z ( mine didnt) would lack to far.. at 145 it should suffice.
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Posted: Jul 30 2009, 01:45 PM


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Not quite what i meant bro...
*doesn't your post count as spam?

Hardtop/slicktop depending on your upbringing they are interchangeable
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Posted: Jul 30 2009, 01:52 PM


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Woah, hold up. Shale gets warning for THIS POST where she at least said something in response before posting an image, but Drifter gets off scot-free?

Bullshit and reported.
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QUOTE (Midnight Drifter @ Yesterday, 2:40 PM)
edit: In more relevant matters, A/C removal is a cardinal sin. Even race cars have A/C. If you can't go faster without it, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG.

On My s12 all the necessary components for the AC system weigh more than a rim and tyre.
AC is not necessary nor needed.
Most cars didn't come with ac for a long time, they managed to race and drive them.
does it affect comfort? yes.
Performance? marginal if any. but it does reduce wight...and maybe idle speed.
Weight is the enemy.
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Posted: Jul 31 2009, 07:19 AM


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QUOTE (S12 Guy @ 1 hour, 46 minutes ago)
does it affect comfort? yes.
Performance? marginal if any. but it does reduce wight...and maybe idle speed.
Weight is the enemy.

No, it definitely affects performance. I've seen a car dyno 50whp less than expect due to the A/C being left on. They turned it off, did another pull, and oh, hey, there's the 50hp.

And 50hp is a significant difference on anyone's butt dyno.

EDIT: And it won't affect idle speed at all, that's computer controlled, and it'll be the same A/C on or off. There'll just be a larger load on the engine when it's on.

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Posted: Jul 31 2009, 04:09 PM


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lmao AC really doesn't make that much of a difference. All of our BMW road racing cars run it.

Hell the only reason I don't have AC in my FD is the fact that I bought it that way.

Bottom line

Is it needed? No

Do I prefer it? Yes

Do many other racers prefer it? Hell yes.

Will it make you faster? Not enough for you to actually be able to tell a difference.

My only reason to EVER take AC out would be space for various shit, v mount intercoolers, stupid stuff like that. But even still, you can fab up ways to go around it and keep AC. It really just depends on how deep your wallet is.

It's just a lot easier to work under a hood without AC, that's all.
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Removing the AC to go faster in a street car is retarded. Even if you win, it's still retarded.

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Posted: Jul 31 2009, 10:56 PM


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QUOTE (BmwNeoType @ 4 hours, 32 minutes ago)
Removing the AC to go faster in a street car is retarded. Even if you win, it's still retarded.

Yup.

God I wish I had AC in the FD. sad.gif

I'm seriously thinking about installing it back in the car once I pull everything out to get it painted.
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Wait, wat? 50 whp? Wtf was wrong with that car
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Posted: Aug 1 2009, 06:55 PM


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I dunno. Ain't much worse than the 140whp EVO VIII I saw on the dyno over the weekend. I don't know WHAT the f**k was wrong with it.
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QUOTE (sideways @ 2 hours, 42 minutes ago)
Wait, wat? 50 whp? Wtf was wrong with that car

Maybe a bad bearing in the A/C compressor? Who knows.
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Posted: Aug 5 2009, 04:48 PM


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too much freon will cause the pressure to be to high and cause the compressor to work more, which could explain the loss of 50 hp.
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Posted: Aug 5 2009, 06:02 PM


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QUOTE (BmwNeoType @ Jul 31 2009, 06:24 PM)
Removing the AC to go faster in a street car is retarded. Even if you win, it's still retarded.

hah..i wish that were true. well for most cars anyway. but with the ae86 its very common for them not to have the a/c intact. as well as power steering or heater core. it does save some weight in these cars. close to 250 pounds i believe. not to mention stripping the car or the sound deadening. thats an extra 50 pounds. but again its all about how far you are willing to take it. i like my car having interior and radio because its a daily driver. a/c, heater, power steering ive learned to deal without.
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QUOTE (xsleepydrifterx @ 1 hour, 33 minutes ago)
hah..i wish that were true. well for most cars anyway. but with the ae86 its very common for them not to have the a/c intact. as well as power steering or heater core. it does save some weight in these cars. close to 250 pounds i believe. not to mention stripping the car or the sound deadening. thats an extra 50 pounds. but again its all about how far you are willing to take it. i like my car having interior and radio because its a daily driver. a/c, heater, power steering ive learned to deal without.

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My 400whp AE86 has AC, PS, all that shit still.

It is so pointless to remove it.
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well mine isnt 400whp. you do what you can. i dont have money to swap in a more powerfur motor, or turbo the 20v.
mine didnt even come with p/s, a/c, heater, or radio so i cant complain. its not so pointless as it does save weight. people random things like remove carpet, when carpet only weights around 10 lbs. but people do it. again its all about how far youre willing to take it and how much weight you want to save before going into carbon fiber/frp parts etc.

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It's so very pointless.

20v's are such a waste of money. Just build a 16v.

The only time I really excuse AC and stuff being out of a car is when it is bought that way. My FD for example had no AC when I bought the car. But I do plan on throwing it in there sooner or later.
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QUOTE (Yoshida Seiji @ 42 minutes, 26 seconds ago)
20v's are such a waste of money. Just build a 16v.

Yup, I'm on the lookout for a 16V to pull apart and put back together and build up over time, eventually hopefully to replace my AE111's blacktop. I like the idea of all motor being without things like VVT, too biggrin.gif

On the current topic, yes I think removing air conditioning, carpet and the like is retarded. You get the same sort of difference between driving with and without a full tank of gas rolleyes.gif

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