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It was a brave thing from you to admit your problem. You have taken first step towards healing frim the /idw/-syndrome.

I never fell sick, sorry.

Hell, the only reason I really joined was because I didn't have enough forums to last me through the work day over the summer, and they've got an automotive section and an off topic, which is enough for me.

the thing is 10000$ in a 10k revving 4age will probably buy you parts only...there is so much work that it actually needs, it is usually out of the realm of hobbyists, and requires people who have experience with building motors to that level...the actual cost of owning a 220 ps plus n/a 4age is higher than most people are going to pay for just a motor in a corolla/mk1 mr2...lets just say it can buy you a nice ap2 (04+ s2000) with suspension and brake work maybe with a nice spoon intake and exhaust)

hasselgren and loynings are 2 shops that participated in formula atlantic and have the expertise of building the 10k+ 4age's, and if you buy the motors from them it will cost much more than 10k.

but another thing to remember is that...the corolla/mr2 are fairly light cars...you'll have a ball on the street as a dd with 120-130whp, and to achieve that in NA form won't cost that much.

anyone heard of the turbo'ed formula atlantic motor that still revs to 10k i think in taka aono's falken ae86?

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something along these lines, right?

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It's easier and cheaper to make a 16v 4ag that has 220+ hp there are more choices for under bucket shims. It would hit 10g w/o breaking a sweat. Bigger or rather the proper sized shims are hard to find and are quite pricey. I personally think Tadao Sakurai is probably the one who build a proper 20v.

And Even So...didnt he have backing from the number 1 car manufacturer in the world? (Toyota) So i dont think money was even a thought in mind for him, he was probably given more than $100,000 to make that car...

what car are u referring to?

The Car of the video (AE86 Levin N2) that this thread was started upon...

U know ueo's 16v engine actually revs up to 13k but only outputs 204 ps. It has has a very lightweight crank from tomei

please prove this to me

I think THIS is the crankshaft he uses, after all, it has a MSRP of $4,800

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That's cheap. And, yes it's a tomei crank.

4age guys are lucky.

i guess i wanted to see a dyno sheet of his car hitting 13k @ 204 hp

I could see it being 204 whp, but not bhp. And even then maybe 13k as a dead max rpm, with power being more at 11-12. 10-12k rpm 4ages are not uncommon at all in full race trim, but they make 210-250hp.

I think the Formula Atlantic Engines hit about 13K, but thats a 20,000 dollar 4A-GE were looking at.

here's the article : http://www.jdm-option.com/eng/pickup/06_01/86.html

well, what i am seeing is 180hp @ 10k their

but that is not the amazing part, Ueo is the man that got in serious into drifting in the first place when I saw videos of him back in 2003 i think, he was the first guy I saw to get INSANE angles, and his in car videos are amazing