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| Posted by: Spaz Feb 3 2015, 09:10 AM |
 Image size reduced, original size: 980 x 490. http://roa.h-cdn.co/assets/15/06/980x490/landscape_nrm_1422973835-focustop.jpg to view the image in its original dimension. http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/news/a24914/2017-ford-focus-rs-awd-more-than-315-hp-coming-to-the-us/ 300+hp, a full set of torque vectoring diffs, and great looks? Sign me up. I'm seriously excited for this car. |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan Feb 3 2015, 09:43 AM |
| >everything you need to know >no price tag Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn |
| Posted by: Crono0001 Feb 3 2015, 10:50 AM |
| If it's going to be competitive, look for pricing to compete with the incoming Honda Civic Type R and Golf R. Though it's Ford, so it'll probably be on the cheaper side of things. |
| Posted by: Falbere Feb 3 2015, 10:56 AM |
| The front looks super-ultra-mega aggresive! These looks definitely don't appeal to me though. But 300bhp + tv differentials in a small and compact car like this is still extremely appealing. |
| Posted by: Tessou Feb 3 2015, 11:22 AM |
| That face looks awful. Count me out. |
| Posted by: Grappler Feb 3 2015, 11:45 AM |
That bumper be like |
| Posted by: Spaz Feb 3 2015, 11:50 AM |
| Apparently, and this is third hand info, dealers were told book pricing of $27k for base and $35k for premium. Obviously there would be mark-ups on top, but even as a rough estimate, those are some tempting prices. |
| Posted by: GoP-Demon Feb 3 2015, 12:30 PM |
| hmmm hope it's more reliable than the Focus ST. |
| Posted by: Tessou Feb 3 2015, 12:42 PM | ||
Seems awfully high for a hot hatch, though. I haven't been looking at the new car market for a while, so if that's the current norm feel free to call me a big silly goose. For 27k I could get one heck of a nice last model year car. |
| Posted by: Shirogane Feb 3 2015, 12:53 PM |
| Cue comments about rally lights in 3... |
| Posted by: RalliKai Feb 3 2015, 01:46 PM |
A Golf R/STi killer.  Certainly welcome to another AWD rallybred car with the Evo line coming to an end. |
| Posted by: Rudy Feb 3 2015, 01:59 PM |
| I don't think there was ever an "old" Focus RS, at least I don't recall seeing one on the streets... Pretty sweet hot hatch. [ Post made via Mobile Device ] |
| Posted by: Seri Feb 3 2015, 02:16 PM |
| Well, it was a Europe thing, I think. |
| Posted by: RalliKai Feb 3 2015, 04:33 PM |
| Yep, all of which were front-wheel drive. The Mk 2 still being my favorite. |
| Posted by: Spaz Feb 4 2015, 09:29 AM | ||
| The past two generations of Focus have had an RS model, and as stated, both were FWD. I initially typed FTW there... Which is also the case. Both Subaru and VW should be sweating right now.
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| Posted by: RalliKai Feb 4 2015, 04:32 PM | ||
Some more good tidbits.
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| Posted by: Rudy Feb 5 2015, 10:48 PM |
Just in time to take the Evo's place. nice one, Ford.  |
| Posted by: Kiroshino Feb 27 2015, 10:03 PM |
| Just when I thought most new cars (within reasonable financial reach) were bland and boring, I came across the RS... in the comments section of some random Jalopnik article advertised on Yahoo. Still an estimated price point higher than I'd be comfortable spending, but it's reasonable imo and I might go for it once my warranty expires. I'm genuinely excited to see if it lives up to my expectations. I really enjoyed driving the '13 Fiesta Titanium, so I imagine the Focus RS to be an entirely different beast for the better. |
| Posted by: Rudy Feb 28 2015, 09:21 AM | ||
SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE HERE, make sure you call your insurance BEFORE signing any documents. Your rates could double, triple or even quadruple. Part of the reason I'm up shit creek financially is because of that $10,000 personal loan I took out just to pay for insurance. [ Post made via Mobile Device ] |
| Posted by: Kiroshino Feb 28 2015, 09:47 PM |
| Yeah, I'm well aware of NJ's high insurance rates. It was one of the reasons why I turned down a WRX when I was looking for a new daily. Going from a Civic to an Accord saved me quite a bit on that front. This is all just talk. In reality, I'm currently saving up for a down payment on a house: wouldn't have purchased the Accord if my Civic didn't die on me. After I get a place for myself, I'm doubtful I'd be able to afford anything.  |
| Posted by: DeeezNuuuts83 Mar 1 2015, 07:44 AM | ||
While this is true, the drawback is that if it's a new car, the rates may not exist yet since the car would be brand new, so the carrier may just manually set the rates based on what they know about the car. So even if that number ends up being something you'd be okay with, once they rate the car within the next few months, it could completely change. Also speaking from experience, but on the quoting side. |
| Posted by: Kiroshino Mar 1 2015, 09:14 AM |
| That really sucks. NJ was ranked the ninth highest average car insurance rate last year. Comparing NJ's average rates to surrounding states: http://www.insure.com/car-insurance/car-insurance-rates.html DE: Ranked 17. 17% lower. MD: Ranked 11. 5% lower. NY: Ranked 42. 39% lower. PA: Ranked 25. 25% lower. Cars.com estimated the national average insurance cost for: 2014 Ford Focus: $1118 2014 Ford Focus ST: $1205 2014 Honda Accord: $1615 2014 Honda Civic: $1375 2014 Subaru Impreza: $1157 2014 Subaru WRX: $1502 The national average, according to Insure.com, is $1503 in 2014. NJ carries about a 27% premium over the national average. So, assuming you were a 40-year-old male driver living in NJ with no history and the insurance cost of a 2016 Ford Focus RS followed that of a Subaru WRX, you can expect to be paying about $1903/year in insurance. Adjusting for Cars.com's national average ($1231), we're looking at $2324. Looking at CarsDirect.com: http://www.carsdirect.com/car-insurance/the-average-car-insurance-rates-by-age The average insurance rate for 25-29 year-olds with Esurance is $2400/year. For 40-49 year-olds, it's $2164. So, we can expect that insurance will cost at least 11% more for those around my age. That said, my insurance costs are estimated to be around $2579/year for the 2016 Ford Focus RS based on Insure.com numbers. In reality, I fully expect it to be closer to $3000/year. |
| Posted by: Rudy Mar 1 2015, 11:07 AM |
| I say save the headache and just buy the ST. It's 90% of the RS, with half the maintenance and significantly lower insurance costs. I've never ran across an ST owner, Focus or Fiesta, who didn't absolutely love their car. |
| Posted by: Kiroshino Mar 1 2015, 12:59 PM |
Just talk. Nothing more.  I anticipate the cost to insure the RS to be around the cost to insure a WRX. I don't see myself owning one in the near future. As much as I like the idea of having a new car, I hate the idea of high insurance rates, depreciation, scratches and dents, dirt, etc., stuff that I don't care as much about when I get a used car. |
| Posted by: Rudy Mar 1 2015, 01:11 PM |
| You should peep Tavarish on Jalopnik. Guys an ace on used car deals/advice. [ Post made via Mobile Device ] |
| Posted by: Kiroshino Mar 2 2015, 09:42 AM |
| I should be fine for now. Shouldn't be in the market for another daily for a while, fingers crossed. Thanks for the suggestion. |
| Posted by: Rudy May 12 2015, 07:56 AM |
| They updated the styling of the ST... wonder if the American market RS will get a similar treatment. [ Post made via Mobile Device ] |
| Posted by: tsukikomi May 12 2015, 09:58 AM |
| Focuses to me always had ugly designs like the celica imo. |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan May 12 2015, 10:40 AM | ||
I'm sorry but if you think every Celica is ugly then I must think you're an idiot. The Focus hasn't been around for nearly as long as the Celica, so be careful with those generalizations. [ Post made via Mobile Device ] |
| Posted by: Seri May 12 2015, 10:46 AM |
| I would buy a Celica 2.8XX on looks alone. The 2.8 I6 is just a bonus. |
| Posted by: Kiroshino May 12 2015, 11:07 AM |
| I'm partial to the first, fourth, and seventh generations of Celica. The All-trac versions still demand a pretty high premium. |
| Posted by: kyonpalm May 12 2015, 11:35 AM |
A60 Liftback GOAT. Image size reduced, original size: unknown. http://i.minus.com/ic9SwkF9HgfSp.jpg to view the image in its original dimension. |
| Posted by: Seri May 12 2015, 11:41 AM |
 Image size reduced, original size: unknown. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/Toyota-CelicaXX2800GT.JPG to view the image in its original dimension. |
| Posted by: RalliKai May 12 2015, 11:43 AM |
| Except for the 2nd gen American Focus, I've had no problems with the styling to the Focus. As for the Celica, I've always been a fan of its designs, especially the 4th and 5th generation.  Image size reduced, original size: unknown. http://gomotors.net/photos/32/35/toyota-celica-gt4-st185-view-download-wallpaper-640x426-comments_aa115.jpg to view the image in its original dimension. |
| Posted by: Shirogane May 12 2015, 12:27 PM |
u wot m8 Image size reduced, original size: 1280 x 960. https://41.media.tumblr.com/eff79a483d65dddc3f69d0ae398ad136/tumblr_nmpz0sYPTZ1sje9qmo1_1280.jpg to view the image in its original dimension. And a bit of a tease.  |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan May 12 2015, 01:07 PM | ||||
Wrong answer. In fact considering Rudy was a fan of that I nearly thought it was him pimping that car, then I saw the avatar.
Right answer. |
| Posted by: Rudy May 12 2015, 01:45 PM | ||
RA65, yes. [ Post made via Mobile Device ] |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan May 12 2015, 02:33 PM | ||||
QED. |
| Posted by: kyonpalm May 12 2015, 02:57 PM | ||
Kill me. Also,  |
| Posted by: Kiroshino May 12 2015, 03:01 PM | ||
That's a sweet a**. *drool* |
| Posted by: Seri May 12 2015, 03:19 PM |
| Yes, but mine is a Supra. Sort of. |
| Posted by: Sensation! May 12 2015, 03:19 PM |
| The first car I've ever rode in North America was a 3rd Gen Celica coupe, so I have quite a soft spot for Celicas. Though one them actually has a spot in my "MUST OWN" list of cars, maybe a good 3rd or 2nd place and that's the 6th gen Celica GT-FOUR  Image size reduced, original size: 900 x 600. http://i.imgur.com/afiq78f.jpg to view the image in its original dimension. If you've played Sega Rally, you know why. From an aesthetic styling standpoint, the car is atrocious, gaudy, and excessive: it had a wing as tall as the 90's New York skyline with more vents than an air conditioned office. However, from the perspective of a kid in the 90's, that's what made the car so cool. If you grew up in the 90's and had a poster of a Ferrari or a Lamborghini on your wall, you were a plebian compared to the patrician tastes of people who had rally celicas on their wall. |
| Posted by: tsukikomi May 12 2015, 04:47 PM | ||
I had a s7   Image size reduced, original size: unknown. http://www.orik.de/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/s7_001.jpg to view the image in its original dimension. |
| Posted by: kyonpalm May 12 2015, 06:14 PM | ||
Man, I haven't heard of that car in years. What a beast. |
| Posted by: Rudy May 13 2015, 05:49 PM | ||
Uh... thanks?  |
| Posted by: Sensation! May 13 2015, 06:17 PM | ||
I have a friend who likes to say to me "So young and already predictable" |
| Posted by: Rudy May 13 2015, 06:59 PM |
| Okaaaaay... your point? |
| Posted by: Tessou May 14 2015, 12:23 AM |
| I predicted that ellipses would be used outside of grammatical logic again. Since when did we type as a substitution for speaking out loud? Are you transcribing something you're actually saying? There is no need to include a pause or hesitation in text, as time is not a factor here. There is no suspense to be gained. Rudy is a [...] member. Take that, MLA! |
| Posted by: Kiroshino May 14 2015, 05:00 AM | ||
Since probably before you were born. Not sure: you're pretty ancient.  Joking aside, I'll have to disagree with you on multiple points, but it's not worth anybody's time or effort here to make this a topic of discussion. Besides, I know that I'd lose through attrition. |
| Posted by: Rudy May 14 2015, 09:44 AM | ||
This is how I talk. Still trying to figure out what a "qed" here is. [ Post made via Mobile Device ] |
| Posted by: Tessou May 14 2015, 09:48 AM |
| Look it up. |
| Posted by: Rudy May 14 2015, 09:51 AM |
| Shouldn't have expected anything more from you guys. ... Oh, wow, it's not even Redditese, it's an actual phrase that has been used way before the Internet, hell, before English even. How did I not know this? [ Post made via Mobile Device ] |
| Posted by: Tessou May 14 2015, 10:28 AM |
| Probably the same way you refused to acknowledge certain terms in the past because you didn't know about them yet, so therefore they weren't real. |
| Posted by: kyonpalm May 14 2015, 10:33 AM | ||
topkick. |
| Posted by: Rudy May 14 2015, 11:19 AM | ||
Let me rephrase, this is the first time I've even heard of or seen the term. edit @ kyonpalm still bitter over that i see [ Post made via Mobile Device ] |
| Posted by: Nomake Wan May 14 2015, 03:00 PM | ||
Do note that I'm not fluent in Redditese as the only Reddit I frequent is /r/EliteDangerous. I do know at least some Traditional Chanspeak, however. Also, the correct answer as to why you've never heard of this phrase is because you never watched Lucky Star and got curious about the lyrics to the opening song. |
| Posted by: kyonpalm May 14 2015, 03:46 PM | ||
You confuse "bitter" with "uncontrollably laughing myself into an aneurysm". |
| Posted by: Rudy May 14 2015, 05:04 PM |
| I'm glad that a 2 year old joke still amuses you, I really am. That's humorous attrition right there. Or your comedic taste hasn't matured one bit in 2 years. One or the other. Oh, yeah, I've been meaning to change my avatar. Thanks for the reminder. |
| Posted by: RalliKai Aug 6 2015, 03:45 PM |
| :bump: Power output has been revealed at 345hp and the US price was released by mistake but apparently starts at $35,730. Was hoping it would stay in the low 30s but still better bang for the buck than the STi and Evo for sure. http://www.autoblog.com/2015/07/29/2016-ford-focus-rs-pricing-report/ |
| Posted by: Kiroshino Aug 6 2015, 06:54 PM |
| That's about what I was expecting, priced around its competition. Easily over $40k when all said and done, but still a fair amount of car for the money. |
| Posted by: RalliKai Aug 7 2015, 07:43 AM |
| I'm glad they're sticking to the universal specs of the car for the US market. I'd still like to see Ford bring over some of its' global engines for the Focus instead of sticking to the NA 2.0L that they've used since the beginning. |
| Posted by: Spaz Aug 7 2015, 07:49 AM |
| It's $36.6k with delivery, but still, awesome price for a car that based on some insider info I've got is VERY competitive out of the box. Like, throw a base model at the USCA and take podiums competitive. The general enthusiast consensus has been that this will replace the Evo's segment of the market, but that's simply untrue. This eclipses it completely in performance ability alone. The Evo X will be 8 year old tech when the RS releases, and it will certainly make it look like it. |
| Posted by: RalliKai Aug 7 2015, 10:27 AM |
| There are also rumors floating around that Mazda is working on an AWD Mazdaspeed 3 that will be in the 300 pony department. If it's true, that will easily fill the void the departing Evo X will create. The Focus RS will basically be in its own category. Priced like a Golf R but performs as good but probably better than an Audi RS3. |
| Posted by: RalliKai Jan 26 2016, 09:00 AM | ||
The positive consensus is strong with this one.
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| Posted by: Nomake Wan Jan 26 2016, 12:29 PM |
Jesus christ a Ford with 70/30 R/F AWD capability. Daddy like. Daddy like veeeeeeery much.  |
| Posted by: xiao Jan 26 2016, 02:45 PM |
| > Horsepower: 350 HP Gahfugshimotherfu!@#$% ...just give the BRZed to Ford for god's sake!!1 |
| Posted by: BOZZ Jan 29 2016, 01:43 PM |
| The RS is pretty sweet and all, but the price is pretty high up here in Canada, the base price is $46,969 (it's $10k more than the base STi, about $8k cheaper than the Golf R) which is kinda the only disappointing thing about it IMHO. |
| Posted by: xiao Jan 29 2016, 03:19 PM | ||
Personally I'd get a 2003 Focus and 99:1 suspension FTW!!  btw, I wasn't being sarcastic... I seriously think putting an L~anything engine on any vehicle can make it a thorough breed~ figuratively speaking. |
| Posted by: Kiroshino Jan 31 2016, 04:58 PM | ||
I think it's fairly priced here in the US, at least in terms of MSRP: Focus RS: $35,730+ WRX STI: $34,695+ Evo GSR: $34,495+ Golf R: $35,650+ Of course, the actual dealer price might make it noncompetitive. Also, I haven't taken into consideration the features that these cars offer. Going to have to take the RS for a spin one day.  |
| Posted by: RalliKai Jan 31 2016, 05:11 PM |
| It's certainly at the top of my Yes list and offers the best bang for the buck among the 4 cars listed above. The Evo is on its way out so the Focus RS is a welcome sight on these shores. |
| Posted by: Spaz Feb 1 2016, 08:01 AM |
| You're paying for what you get with the Focus RS, and it is way more car than the competition. |
| Posted by: Möbius Feb 3 2016, 05:29 PM | ||
Yes, but the right place to jam it into a hatch would be where the rear seats are... I.e. Festiva Shogun. |
| Posted by: xiao Feb 4 2016, 07:58 AM | ||||
...and I just learned about the Sierra's long lost cousin~!!
 Only a Lancia is hotter than that beast! |
| Posted by: BOZZ Feb 4 2016, 03:03 PM | ||
Seems like it's way more fairly priced over there. Funny thing is that it's technically cheaper to get the RS here, since the price in the US, when converted to Canadian dollars, is about 3-4 thousand dollars more than the price of the RS here. Focus RS: $46,969+ WRX STI: $37,995+ EVO GSR: $41,998+ Golf R: $39,995+ |
| Posted by: SFSxShingo Feb 28 2017, 06:11 PM |
| Idk if it's been mentioned before, but don't forget about the mark up for the Focus RS. I mean I am not sure how it is in in the mainland US or around the world. But here in Hawaii the RS goes for a minimum of $40k (Everything cool here has mar up, it's ridiculous) I have a friend that works at a Ford dealership and I was legit going to try and get one through him. But he can't even get one at MSRP. |