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Rurouni Kenshin is the last samuri?| CrypticApathy |  Posted: Nov 30 2003, 07:56 PM |
OH SNAP!  Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,930 Member No.: 1,065 Joined: Nov 28th 2003 Location: Tampa FL | That new movie the last samuri is based off a real story... Is Rurouni Kenshin based off the same story? Seems like the same idea and timeframe. Although i havnt seen the last samuri nor will i. RK is base in the 1800's
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| Indecisive | Posted: Nov 30 2003, 09:41 PM |
the deranged one Group: Advanced Members Posts: 5,132 Member No.: 34 Joined: Oct 1st 2002 Location: Vancouver, Canada | Rurouni Kenshin isn't fact. it's based on historical events like the meiji revolution and the existence of the shinsengumi(yes they are real, but Aku Soku Zan isn't). but the storyline isn't real. |
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| KenshinX | Posted: Nov 30 2003, 09:46 PM | ||
Dark Hitokiri Group: Members Posts: 380 Member No.: 186 Joined: Jan 13th 2003 Location: Japan (Just kidding....) Canada |
Well, the events and references are similar as well as the time period. Both the last samurai and RK take place in the Meiji era, in which Japan was in a period of rapid modernization of their economy as well as hiring foreign officers and such from Europe and the USA to help train their new modern war machine......... But Kenshin is not a real character, though he was based off another samurai during the revolution. But the Shinsengumi did exist and many of the figures found in RK exist in real life, such as Saito Hajime and so forth. Not all the real life personalities match their counterparts in RK completely but you get the idea. | ||
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| Indecisive | Posted: Nov 30 2003, 11:07 PM |
the deranged one Group: Advanced Members Posts: 5,132 Member No.: 34 Joined: Oct 1st 2002 Location: Vancouver, Canada | I think they place it at the time of the meiji goverment because the ways of the samurai were dying off and wester influence was becomming more and more prominent. I think it's a coincidence...then again...if they suddenly call him the Hitokiri Battousai...lol |
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| karasac | Posted: Nov 30 2003, 11:15 PM |
Rotary Disciple Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,209 Member No.: 11 Joined: Aug 28th 2002 Location: Chino Hills, California | the last samurai is the story of a group of samurai that rebeled agains the government, i forget what they called the rebellion, but it took place around the same time kenshin did |
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| KenshinX | Posted: Dec 1 2003, 09:37 AM |
Dark Hitokiri Group: Members Posts: 380 Member No.: 186 Joined: Jan 13th 2003 Location: Japan (Just kidding....) Canada | I think the name of the rebellion was called the Satsuma rebellion of 1877, the last samurai uprising in history....... After the loss of their previous privelages and land, samurai revolted against the new government. |
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| CrypticApathy | Posted: Dec 1 2003, 10:43 AM |
OH SNAP! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,930 Member No.: 1,065 Joined: Nov 28th 2003 Location: Tampa FL | i knew RK wasnt a real person but i knew the whole revolt really did exist. It is a cartoon afterall. It just seemed kinda odd to me with all the couincidences between them. |
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| Kamui | Posted: Dec 1 2003, 07:22 PM |
Abba Zaba, you my only friend! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,681 Member No.: 469 Joined: Jun 11th 2003 Location: NY | yes the revolution was true but kenshin was fiction |
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| blackhalo | Posted: Dec 1 2003, 09:49 PM |
IDW Member Group: Members Posts: 17 Member No.: 1,039 Joined: Nov 23rd 2003 Location: Update Profile | some were true; especially the events in the tokugawa era. what's really interesting about it is how japanese anime creators interpreted the events and the tokugawa politcal life. (i.e shogun, samurai. etc....) |
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| Indecisive | Posted: Dec 1 2003, 10:07 PM |
the deranged one Group: Advanced Members Posts: 5,132 Member No.: 34 Joined: Oct 1st 2002 Location: Vancouver, Canada | actually..you know I thought that you could only be born into a samurai family. you couldn't become a samurai. If you wanted to you could become a Shinobi though...that's what I thought. and the storyline is an ex-soldier becomes a samurai... |
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| killerenergy | Posted: Dec 1 2003, 10:35 PM |
Hi! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,360 Member No.: 152 Joined: Dec 22nd 2002 Location: Ohio | the meji revolution and batosi(sp) the manslayer is true, it's just his ablities are exerated and I don't know if he was called kenshin |
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| Seychella | Posted: Dec 2 2003, 01:25 AM | ||
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to my understanding, kenshin is a made up character.. not based on any real person at all. but the events are real.. as was mention afore already. but... kenshin isnt real  | ||
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| karasac | Posted: Dec 2 2003, 10:44 AM | ||
Rotary Disciple Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,209 Member No.: 11 Joined: Aug 28th 2002 Location: Chino Hills, California |
well u know the age of the samurai was coming to an end at that time so maybe they made an exception, they could use all the soldiers they could use | ||
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| KenshinX | Posted: Dec 2 2003, 11:33 AM | ||||
Dark Hitokiri Group: Members Posts: 380 Member No.: 186 Joined: Jan 13th 2003 Location: Japan (Just kidding....) Canada |
Yeah, the organized rebel groups recruited people, I'm pretty sure that they did make some exemptions towards recruiting samurai, a few commoners or people or lower-class background turned out to be prominent figures for the Meiji restoration. Even though many samurai continued to remain fairly important for the early portion of the modernization period. The rebel clans of Choshu and Satsuma did a good job in recruiting young and willing soldiers for their cause. On the other hand, the Tokugawa loyalists, even after being defeated by rebels, made a last ditch stand, even after the last Tokugawa Shogun, Yoshinobu voluntarily surrendered power to the young Emperor Meiji in 1868. All I know is that obviously after the implementation of a modernized, conscript army, the monopoly of the samurai ended and people of peasant or middle-class background were able to join the military. | ||||
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