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Cubits | Posted: Apr 14 2005, 09:13 PM |
IDW Prime Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 578 Member No.: 148 Joined: Dec 16th 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia | Let's not forget that a good launch with a awd/4wd is quite a bit harder on the clutch. It is much easier to bog the car than with a rwd, and the chance of popping the clutch is high (i've seen soo many wrx's and skylines blow clutches!!). |
sideways | Posted: Apr 15 2005, 01:32 AM |
We're the People's Front of Judea! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 13,123 Member No.: 1,355 Joined: Feb 28th 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | ^-- word to that, thought about pointing it didnt feel like it. The extra drive train means you gotta rev the crap out of your engine to properly launch it (thus the killage of clutches), and its pretty easy to let it out too fast (stall) or not fast enough (slower launch, more clutch wear). Good awd cars need heavy clutches, not the easiest to have that "finese" on |
Sti_Brumby | Posted: Apr 15 2005, 04:03 PM |
Subaru Expert Group: Members Posts: 368 Member No.: 5,665 Joined: Feb 22nd 2005 Location: Australia Mate! | Any clutch would wear out if you got good power goign through it.... |
sideways | Posted: Apr 15 2005, 05:04 PM |
We're the People's Front of Judea! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 13,123 Member No.: 1,355 Joined: Feb 28th 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | Not the point. The point lies in the difference of -how- your launching differently for speed. |
Frost | Posted: Apr 16 2005, 10:19 AM |
Time to slam into 2nd gear! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,861 Member No.: 3,866 Joined: Oct 23rd 2004 Location: Mississauga | Again, I am surprised at how this thread still lives... Pros: RWD = Good for perfect traction (ie: dry and warm) FWD = Good 2WD compromise for anything less than perfect traction FWD = Best for bad traction (makes most of what little grip is available) Cons: RWD = Drivetrain loss, hard to work on compromised traction FWD = Understeer due to front heavy AWD = Most drivetrain loss, 4 wheels powered means twice as much wear and tear and twice as much power being siphoned from engine Frost |
Sweeper | Posted: May 26 2005, 05:32 AM |
IDW Goldmember Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,133 Member No.: 2,798 Joined: Aug 25th 2004 Location: Levanger, Norway | Now perhaps I will open something that hasn't been counted before. But before I begin I want to define what I mean: 4WD, Permanent 4 wheel drive AWD, Like the Skyline, 2 Wheel drive until traction loss. What I want to bring in is modified AWD, lets take the very familiar Skyline ATTESA E-TS. Now, we slam in an aftermarket controller that should allow you to set the AWD system to PERMANENTLY work in a 50 / 50 distrubution manually. How would this go if we put it against normal 4WD? Now of course I do assume he has the controller pre setup prior to traction loss. But like the first post in this thread said, AWD is bad off-road, well how will the controlled AWD fare where it has permanent 4WD set by a controller? I am not bringing any statements into this one at the moment as my car know how guy appearently has gone to bed (Aussie) so I cannot ask him for more specifics. Generally it is allready summed up the weakness of AWD, the response time. Well I posted this to bring a new AWD system into the discussion, the ones that uses a controller, modified ones. |
sideways | Posted: May 26 2005, 12:23 PM | ||
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attesa is one of the onyl few to actualy do this, most constantly power all 4 wheels to some extent. | ||
WRX DEMON Type R | Posted: May 26 2005, 05:18 PM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Banned Posts: 13,371 Member No.: 3,276 Joined: Sep 22nd 2004 Location: Update Profile | Subaru's newer AWD systems distribute power during accel and braking too. Mine unfortunetly is 50:50 all the time. But same principle of when one wheel slips, the other 3 pick up the slack is there. |
sideways | Posted: May 26 2005, 07:21 PM |
We're the People's Front of Judea! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 13,123 Member No.: 1,355 Joined: Feb 28th 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | 50:50 all the time u sure about that? |
WRX DEMON Type R | Posted: May 26 2005, 07:30 PM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Banned Posts: 13,371 Member No.: 3,276 Joined: Sep 22nd 2004 Location: Update Profile | im very sure. it's called continuous AWD. If your wondering if my car is front wheel biased - it's not. That's only in the automatic models. Cars101 Subaru Glossary This post has been edited by 2.5RS DEMON on May 26 2005, 07:37 PM |
Subaru | Posted: Jan 4 2006, 07:45 PM | ||
The Midnight Runner Group: Members Posts: 350 Member No.: 14,889 Joined: Dec 17th 2005 Location: Montreal, Quebec |
Or Symmetrical AWD (spell?) | ||
sideways | Posted: Jan 4 2006, 10:50 PM |
We're the People's Front of Judea! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 13,123 Member No.: 1,355 Joined: Feb 28th 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | Check them dates |
EA99 | Posted: Jan 4 2006, 10:53 PM |
woo happyface Group: Advanced Members Posts: 6,140 Member No.: 5,162 Joined: Jan 20th 2005 Location: perth, wa | lawl hes new and a subaru driver so maybe it was OK for him to revive? which reminds me i thought 2.5RS was coming back? |
Subaru | Posted: Jan 4 2006, 11:40 PM |
The Midnight Runner Group: Members Posts: 350 Member No.: 14,889 Joined: Dec 17th 2005 Location: Montreal, Quebec | Oh.. wasn't paying attention, !! ok sure this time I won't revive anything else *promise* now I feel stupid..*knock heads on table* |
BOZZ | Posted: Jan 5 2006, 09:04 AM | ||
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 28,412 Member No.: 1,414 Joined: Mar 9th 2004 Location: Update Profile |
Nope he's never coming back... He's too scared people will make a fool out of him if he does come back.... >< | ||
Frost | Posted: Jan 5 2006, 09:29 AM |
Time to slam into 2nd gear! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,861 Member No.: 3,866 Joined: Oct 23rd 2004 Location: Mississauga | He did come back. He posted in the "Check out my S13 and AE86" thread. Frost |
kel | Posted: Jan 5 2006, 10:30 AM |
IDW's commercial transportation specialist Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,204 Member No.: 2,299 Joined: Jul 19th 2004 Location: Brampton Ontario Canada | Not quite, look at the date https://idforums.net/index.php?showtopic=10...ndpost&p=233599 However! his last active date on this board was the 21st of dec 2005 This post has been edited by kel on Jan 5 2006, 10:35 AM |
Frost | Posted: Jan 5 2006, 01:00 PM |
Time to slam into 2nd gear! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,861 Member No.: 3,866 Joined: Oct 23rd 2004 Location: Mississauga | Whoops. I thought I saw January, 2006. Damn that thread is old. I thought it was a new thread! Frost |
WRX DEMON Type R | Posted: Jan 10 2006, 07:13 PM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Banned Posts: 13,371 Member No.: 3,276 Joined: Sep 22nd 2004 Location: Update Profile | Whoa... Hey Kel! How is your Mom's Civic doing? I wonder how much you spent repairing it... I cant remember, but it was a large sum, wasnt it? This post has been edited by 2.5RS DEMON on Jan 10 2006, 07:16 PM |
hellbent | Posted: Jan 10 2006, 07:21 PM |
Married to his R6 since August 22. Group: Advanced Members Posts: 5,940 Member No.: 4,490 Joined: Nov 28th 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada. | Oh shit, he is back. Heard u got a new 2.5RS. JUst remember now not to drive it in a flood J/K. U missed quite alot |
kel | Posted: Jan 10 2006, 07:54 PM | ||
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indeed it was ..but the leggy is comeing soon so whatever This post has been edited by kel on Jan 10 2006, 07:55 PM | ||
WRX DEMON Type R | Posted: Jan 10 2006, 07:55 PM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Banned Posts: 13,371 Member No.: 3,276 Joined: Sep 22nd 2004 Location: Update Profile | How R plans for the Legacy going? |
kel | Posted: Jan 10 2006, 07:58 PM |
IDW's commercial transportation specialist Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,204 Member No.: 2,299 Joined: Jul 19th 2004 Location: Brampton Ontario Canada | looking at april now a Q Whats your TSC name This post has been edited by kel on Jan 10 2006, 07:59 PM |
sideways | Posted: Jan 10 2006, 08:31 PM |
We're the People's Front of Judea! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 13,123 Member No.: 1,355 Joined: Feb 28th 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | PMs |
WRX DEMON Type R | Posted: Jan 10 2006, 08:31 PM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Banned Posts: 13,371 Member No.: 3,276 Joined: Sep 22nd 2004 Location: Update Profile | Anyone have a picture of the underside of a Skyline GTR? I want to see what the driveline looks like. I wonder if it's anything like the Murano. |
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