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FF Dori Vid, FF dori!| J4P RX |  Posted: Dec 16 2002, 10:19 AM |
IDW Jr. Member  Group: Members Posts: 60 Member No.: 132 Joined: Dec 7th 2002 Location: UK | OK some proof for the doubters, basically using the technique I described in another thread. On the plus, its a drift  On the negative, you can see he wont be able to take another bend drifting where as RWD could go on all day  http://www.lagunartea.com/Kolaborazioak/Tx...Txus%20Jaio.mpg Lee |
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| karasac | Posted: Dec 16 2002, 12:05 PM |
Rotary Disciple Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,209 Member No.: 11 Joined: Aug 28th 2002 Location: Chino Hills, California | that was a nice ass drag, but the reason he was able to do that is cuz the road was wet and muddy making it easy to break rear traction, its just like tray drifting without the tray |
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| J4P RX | Posted: Dec 16 2002, 12:14 PM |
IDW Jr. Member Group: Members Posts: 60 Member No.: 132 Joined: Dec 7th 2002 Location: UK | hehe, I take it your excuse means you are admitting its a drift. I know its far from perfect - looks at my plus and negative points. Its still impressive though. Lee |
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| karasac | Posted: Dec 16 2002, 12:17 PM |
Rotary Disciple Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,209 Member No.: 11 Joined: Aug 28th 2002 Location: Chino Hills, California | im not admiting its a drift, im simply giving a reason as to why it looks like a drift |
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| Chamber | Posted: Dec 16 2002, 01:04 PM |
IDW Full Member Group: Members Posts: 42 Member No.: 145 Joined: Dec 13th 2002 Location: Update Profile | It does look like a rwd drift. however, I dont think it was practical for him to take those soft corners like that. and being in a FWD car means he probably came out of the corner alot slower than he came in |
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| J4P RX | Posted: Dec 16 2002, 01:05 PM |
IDW Jr. Member Group: Members Posts: 60 Member No.: 132 Joined: Dec 7th 2002 Location: UK | Yes he exist speed probably was compromised, but then drifting anything isnt the fastest way around a bend or track so its irrelevant. Lee |
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| Jayson | Posted: Dec 16 2002, 03:08 PM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 10,554 Member No.: 32 Joined: Sep 26th 2002 Location: Orlando, FL | *punches J4P in the mouth* it was a nice slide |
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| Chamber | Posted: Dec 16 2002, 05:37 PM |
IDW Full Member Group: Members Posts: 42 Member No.: 145 Joined: Dec 13th 2002 Location: Update Profile | J4P, drifting is occasionally the fastest way around corners. BUY A RWD CAR AND YOU'LL UNDERSTAND. you can accelerate while drifting, you cant while ass dragging, and you cant while grip steering once you hit max traction. |
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| ]{aya | Posted: Dec 16 2002, 05:42 PM |
Old HOT PINK Schmuck Group: Advanced Members Posts: 841 Member No.: 47 Joined: Oct 16th 2002 Location: Montréal, Québec | this wasnt drifting ...like karasac said : nice ass drag, you know why it looked so real ...b cause it was i DIRT (slipery surface know what i mean ?) look guys we are tired of explaining... get it we are telling you that FF CAN'T drift, thats like saying : you will die one day, its obvious you will die ...then its obvious an ff CAN'T drift P.S. : look closer in the second turn he doesnt accelerate, so ...like Chamber said |
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| Alex | Posted: Dec 16 2002, 06:51 PM |
OG Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 9,054 Member No.: 111 Joined: Nov 26th 2002 Location: Atlanta | Thats the first Alfa-Romeo ive seen drift/ass drag..im watching it over and over again watching different parts of the shot each time to figure it out exactly |
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| |[ .tainted. ]| | Posted: Dec 16 2002, 08:02 PM | ||||||
IDforum OG member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,156 Member No.: 141 Joined: Dec 11th 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada | though i'm an fr fan... i believe ff's can drift i simply define drift as an urge to change direction by the use of force; in this case changing the direction in which the car is pointing at to gain a better angle during or when exiting a corner... ff's are able to do that, maybe with the e-brake or with whatever method, but due to the fact that they can do it proves well enough that they do drift... you might say that ff's can't do consecutive drifts... well that's not the only type of drift there is... a car has it's limits... ff's are not made for those type of drifts but maybe for other... you might refer to it as "ass-dragging"... so be it, but then what you may define as "ass-dragging" could just possibly be a different type of drift...
it may be slower than fr drifts or whatever other type of drifts, but the fact still remains that it does drift... the argument is to prove whether or not a ff can drift... not it's effectiveness... it's still a drift none the less... though not in a very sensible way...
quoting karasac... even though it may be easier to drift on a wet/muddy surface... that may be the extent of an ff drift... but it's still a drift...
understand a drift? fr drift and awd drifts are different and the way to initiate each are somewhat different... do we compare them? no... because they have different layouts... so why compare ff and fr's... the point is, there is no comparison to be made... but a point to be proven... can ff's drift... or can't they... everyone is entitled to their own opinion... just don't attack those that don't share the same ones as yours... | ||||||
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| ]{aya | Posted: Dec 16 2002, 08:37 PM |
Old HOT PINK Schmuck Group: Advanced Members Posts: 841 Member No.: 47 Joined: Oct 16th 2002 Location: Montréal, Québec | ....you cant ...drifting is a specific technique ...very complex ...ass draggin is not .... 
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| karasac | Posted: Dec 16 2002, 08:40 PM |
Rotary Disciple Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,209 Member No.: 11 Joined: Aug 28th 2002 Location: Chino Hills, California | ok dude, just cuz u get sideways in a corner doesnt mean ur drifting FF's not being able to drift or being able to drift is not an opinion, FF's cant drift that is a fact, read the thread thats pinned, the one neo vash started, a lot of people turned his "theory" on FF drifting to swiss cheese. |
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| |[ .tainted. ]| | Posted: Dec 16 2002, 08:41 PM |
IDforum OG member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,156 Member No.: 141 Joined: Dec 11th 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada | just because majority says otherwise... doesn't make it a fact... at least i don't think so... oh and i did read his "theory" but his approach was stupid attacking people... anyhow... how do you expect to receive positive opinions when you start off negative being close minded yourself... i don't support neo-vash... i support the probable fact that ff's can drift... |
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| ]{aya | Posted: Dec 16 2002, 08:58 PM |
Old HOT PINK Schmuck Group: Advanced Members Posts: 841 Member No.: 47 Joined: Oct 16th 2002 Location: Montréal, Québec | get it : IT IS A FACT, laws of physics wont allow a FF to drift, get it ...why do you guys have to be so stubborn ! damn stop cryin "i still have faith in FF" for god sake, the proofs are there, : The Displacment called FF (front engine displacement, Front wheel drive) can't execute the technique called driting .... |
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| SupahNewbie | Posted: Dec 16 2002, 09:13 PM |
Request Title - PM Mods Group: Members Posts: 422 Member No.: 100 Joined: Nov 20th 2002 Location: Update Profile | Does it matter? This is almost like sterotyping lets just say it's cool and watch  if it takes skill you get respect. Doesn't mean if your car can't drift you get no respect. |
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| |[ .tainted. ]| | Posted: Dec 16 2002, 09:13 PM |
IDforum OG member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,156 Member No.: 141 Joined: Dec 11th 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada | hey doofus... do you see me cryin'? am i forcing you to reply? don't you have a will of your own? is this your forum? and don't refer to me as a group... we may all believe that ff's could drift, but we don't believe it for the same reason... give me the exact definition of drift... from the person that "invented" drifting [if there is one]... from the person that studied drifting... if you could cite that your information came from a source of great understanding... and your law of physics came from a physics book itself... then i will submit that ff's can't drift... don't force me to change my ideals... it's like forcing a muslim to be catholic... and besides, there's more ppl who believe that ff's drift... there always will... so how about you stop your whining cause people have different beliefs and there would always be people believing that ff's drift -- now that's a fact and it takes basic common sense to get that... but in any case, it's not a big deal... not like i care much really... 
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| karasac | Posted: Dec 16 2002, 09:24 PM | ||
Rotary Disciple Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,209 Member No.: 11 Joined: Aug 28th 2002 Location: Chino Hills, California |
check out this :http://velocity.isfaster.com/drift/overvie...ew/overview.htm and read y FF's cant drift, these guys r based in japan so they know what they're talking about only in america is there more people that belive FFs can drift, go talk to the drifters in japan the idea of FFs drifting didnt come up till it hit american shores, cuz the honda boys couldnt come to grips with the fact that their FFs cant do what FRs can. and i think u do care cuz u keep replying | ||
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| |[ .tainted. ]| | Posted: Dec 16 2002, 10:01 PM | ||||
IDforum OG member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,156 Member No.: 141 Joined: Dec 11th 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada | link won't load right now... it's a sign lol... i'll try tomorrow... but i know this site... i've seen this when i was such a drifting freakazoid...
assumption? or fact? 
friggin' comment of ]{aya annoyed me a bit with the crying business... hehe *can't believe it* but it is interesting to know what the term drifting really means and who started it... cause just like you, i'd rather stick to the facts... | ||||
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| Jayson | Posted: Dec 16 2002, 10:27 PM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 10,554 Member No.: 32 Joined: Sep 26th 2002 Location: Orlando, FL | Drift= A controlled slide with using the gas pedal to adust your angle and minor counter steer to keep the car sliding, but in a controlled manner. It is possible to drift down a straight away and maintain a constant speed. This is, however, not possible with a FF. Sorry, you lose |
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| J4P RX | Posted: Dec 17 2002, 12:19 AM | ||
IDW Jr. Member Group: Members Posts: 60 Member No.: 132 Joined: Dec 7th 2002 Location: UK |
Err, I have one actually. FD3S, which is posted around a few of the other threads Lee | ||
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| |[ .tainted. ]| | Posted: Dec 17 2002, 08:22 AM | ||
IDforum OG member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,156 Member No.: 141 Joined: Dec 11th 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada |
i'm not competing... i'm learning... so guys... what differs a powerslide exactly from a drift? i'd like to know your explanation...
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| Jayson | Posted: Dec 17 2002, 10:53 AM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 10,554 Member No.: 32 Joined: Sep 26th 2002 Location: Orlando, FL | some one else can take this one, I had too long of a night....... |
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| karasac | Posted: Dec 17 2002, 01:17 PM |
Rotary Disciple Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,209 Member No.: 11 Joined: Aug 28th 2002 Location: Chino Hills, California | go watch initial d, the episode where iketani gets his car back, he explains it. |
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| Jayson | Posted: Dec 17 2002, 02:01 PM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 10,554 Member No.: 32 Joined: Sep 26th 2002 Location: Orlando, FL | Well, I could have said that  |
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