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> Furious 7, Spoiler-Optional Report
Tessou
    Posted: Apr 3 2015, 12:52 PM


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Well, I just got back from Furious 7 and took the time to dry my eyes before writing this up. What a film. I'm putting the plot synopsis, which is a little spoiler-y, ahead of my own review of the film. Read at your own risk, even if it's an abridged plot.

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Thoughts on the film, positive and negative.

+ A lot of speculation was put on this film for how it was going to handle Paul's death. I'll vouch for the production team for the CGI used to keep him in the film. I saw a few examples of "this scene is actually CGI Paul" after the film, and could not believe it. It certainly fooled me, and I was actively looking for uncanny valley throughout. The team mined his voice for usable cuts to put into scenes where he's off-screen. There are times where you notice a slight difference in the sound quality of his voice (they used old recordings and sound editing over his brothers' voices to create unfinished dialog), but it's not jarring.

+ Every character gets meaningful screen time. Tej gets a fight scene!

+ Sean Boswell returns and gets a proper scene with Dom.

+ Music choices aren't annoying this time around. Nothing crazy or out of place.

+ The sheer amount of callbacks to previous films will make any fan giddy. Fried pistons? Tuna sandwiches? Ludicrous advertising for Corona? All here, and more.


- The CGI work done to revive Paul is great, but having only half of his scenes filmed before his death is plainly visible in the editing of the film. It is painfully obvious that major restructuring had to be done to accommodate the loss of a key actor. Paul is absent from a lot of scenes where he'd normally be. He doesn't have a voice in group settings, like when they're making plans, when it was usually him bouncing ideas off of Dom. Instead, we hear him agreeing or disagreeing to things with single line responses off-screen more often than not. Some parts of the movie have places where you know he would say something in the situation, but they resort to just having him smile or grin as a reaction without words. Hordes of scenes where he's a focal point manage to get by with quick shots of his face intercut with long shots of whoever he's talking to. It's impossible not to notice that Paul isn't really in the film very often.

- Holy fuuuuuuuuuck is this film long. It's over two hours long, so prepare to sit for a while.

- Deckard is unrealistically pitted against Hobbs and Dom and seems completely impervious to damage. He survives a lot of the film with barely a scratch on him, even after getting his face pounded in by Hobbs. Even after getting hit in the face with a socket wrench.

- Mr. Nobody is obviously a foreshadowing character used to set up sequels, but his exit from the film is poorly handled. They literally just leave him on the side of the road.

- The head bodyguard in Abu Dhabi is a terrible actress.


Altogether, a B+/A- movie. It's not perfect. It's not as goofy as previous films. It runs a bit long. However, all of the ingredients are here for a fun romp and a touching sendoff to the series' original star. It's not the best FnF movie, but it's a damn good one.

For Paul.
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Posted: Apr 3 2015, 05:58 PM


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I might just instead of going to the theaters I'll just get the broke ass cunt way.
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Posted: Apr 4 2015, 07:27 PM


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I thoroughly enjoyed it! So many feels too at the end. Overall it's definitely one of the best films in the franchise.
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I think Fast Five was the pinnacle of the series.

5 > 7 > 6 > 1 > 4 > 2 > 3

Really interested in seeing what they can do now that they're in current times and can mesh with Tokyo Drift characters..It only took nine years for the newly crowned DK to finally finish that race. laugh.gif

A question I posed yesterday was: the result of the race with Dom. Who won? If Sean won, does that make him better than Brian since he actually beat Dom? If Dom won, does that mean Dom is the new Drift King?
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Tyrese earned his fucking paycheck this time, cha-ching
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Posted: Apr 5 2015, 11:21 AM


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Really enjoyed this movie. I agree that 5 is the best in the series, but this one is definitely right on it's heels.

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Posted: Apr 5 2015, 08:07 PM


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QUOTE (APX @ Yesterday, 11:10 PM)
Tyrese earned his fucking paycheck this time, cha-ching

He did! In one of the interviews they said they tried to give him a big spot light so they can show Paul W brother less on the screen.

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Furious/movie logic

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Highlighting logical flaws in an FnF movie is like explaining what's so great about Mia's tuna sandwich.
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QUOTE (Tessou @ 13 minutes, 2 seconds ago)
Highlighting logical flaws in an FnF movie is like explaining what's so great about Mia's tuna sandwich.

QUOTE (Tessou @ 12 minutes, 51 seconds ago)
Highlighting logical flaws in an FnF movie is like explaining what's so great about Mia's tuna sandwich.

Are we talking about an actual sandwich or some other sandwich?

Because that answer for either will be different. mad.gif

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Only two people in that scene would have any sort of formal medical training, and none of them performed correctly.
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In my head I'm imagining in Vin Diesel's voice as he revived "...I was just waitin' to hear those words from you so I could use this Fenix Down on myself." <Pulls out a feather and the ghost of Fenix from FF4 revives him to perfect health>
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I think he was just taking a well deserved nap after fighting TWO bad guys.
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Posted: Apr 7 2015, 08:18 AM


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QUOTE (Tessou @ Yesterday, 2:05 PM)
I think he was just taking a well deserved nap after fighting TWO bad guys.

That shit's hard work, yo.
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Posted: Apr 7 2015, 11:14 AM


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Great movie,saw it twice this weekend happy.gif . Cried a bit each time crying2.gif .
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Yeah, I lost it as soon as the white Supra rolled up. I knew exactly what was happening, and I couldn't handle it.
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It was a good movie
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I'll agree that the movie was good! Definitely a strong addition to the franchise, they took themselves seriously as well as added campy parts when needed. Despite all the things that happened while the film was in production, the overall movie quality was not hindered.

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So, I saw this yesterday afternoon, and... Well... I won't say I'm much of fan of the series. I've seen each movie once each, if even.

And I can still say I enjoyed it, even as it's own thing.

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That, and I guess the fact that Paul Walker had passed sort of dropped on me all at once at that moment.

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The song that plays during the final scene is absolute perfection.

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^ That is the one instance in the entire film where I could tell that it wasn't really Paul. His face is "off" in many ways and the eyes are too damn shiny. Otherwise, well done.
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Posted: Apr 10 2015, 10:12 AM


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It hit me like a ton of bricks when Paul initially passed. I really don't get emotional when it comes to people I don't know, but he was different. He was one of those guys who was really genuine on screen. His passion and love for cars was as real as it gets, and through interviews, you could always tell that he was one of those car guys that you could walk right up to at a meet and just BS with for an hour... And for me, it's not just that he was such an amazing person that we as a community lost, it's even more so that I'll never have a chance to meet him and truly see for myself how amazing he was.
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I think that may be the reason why we can take something as goofy and technically inaccurate as the FnF franchise, and love it as fondly as we do. Vin and Paul always seemed like genuine people, not overblown "Hollywood types" just cashing in to make a stupid movie for big bucks.

The dude loved cars, and went as far as paying for the paperwork for the four Skylines used in 2F2F so he could drive them in the film. He went a step further by buying another one as a personal vehicle, because they had so much fun playing with the stunt cars (the four that he legalized) in between takes.

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His taste in cars was completely different before the Fast movies so its refreshing that the movies informed his personal life as much as he informed it. He was a guy who remembered who I was.. but only because he saw my face, tried to remember my name, remembered my car down to the designation of the paint code (not an exaggeration); and only THEN remembered my name. So typical car guy. lol. A lot of his friends who would have little business knowing each other ended up becoming quite close after he was gone. As tragic as his loss is, it did bring a lot of people together in ways no one really imagined and I think he'd at least be happy knowing that.

I never once took a picture with him when I was with him because I didn't want him to feel like he was anything other than another car guy to me. I only took my wife's picture with him because she got all star struck when I introduced them. I'm glad I did though since it turned out to be one of the last.

...But back to the movies. I'm hoping they are going to try dialing the series back to more of the underground type stuff that we saw in the first movies. The impossible stunts and explosions were fun and admittedly since it was Paul's farewell movie, there was the pressure to make it that much more spectacular and impossible. Now though I don't think there's any point in trying to top all the explosions and insane stunts. If you keep giving that to people, I think it will numb the audience to the enjoyment of watching the films since they're pretty much invincible now. There's no sense of tension that there's a threat if they keep mounting bigger and bigger things that they blow through.

I keep joking that they're getting so ridiculous they're going to tie it into Triple X and Riddick from all the crazy since the whole working with a secret organization and the impossible car maneuvers reeks of the Triple X stuff. For Riddick, I was joking that Letty and Dom spawned a race of people so FAST and so FURIOUS, that they were always angry so they were called FURIANS and Riddick is Dom's genetic reincarnation.

Also did anyone else think "STAAAAAAARS" every time Nemes.. erm Deckard Shaw appeared in the most inconvenient places following the team and he was busy being an unstoppable killing machine you couldn't hurt?

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