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Saint | Posted: Dec 26 2011, 07:13 PM | ||
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This is the latest film by Shinkai Makoto. The subs are finally out recently. | ||
bROCKoLEE | Posted: Dec 27 2011, 07:45 PM | ||||
whut? Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,416 Member No.: 6,453 Joined: Apr 2nd 2005 Location: ¯\(º_o)/¯ | Previews/Trailers for people to check out
Watched this about a week or two ago. Was planning on making a thread myself, but gotten beaten to it again It was nice to see Shinkai pay homage to Miyazaki by doing a Ghibli-esque adventure type film this time around. The scenery porn wasn't quite as strong as his previous films imo. Must be because the environment in this film isn't as industrial and city like as previous works, not lending itself too well in being hyper glossy and uber photorealistic as before. That's probably one of the main drawing points for me when I watch his works, the insane background visuals on everything so I was a little disappointed when it wasn't as strong as his earlier works. That's not to say it's bad by any means, the damn film still looks gorgeous as hell. It just falls a ltitle short of what I've come to massively expect after seeing 5cm Per Second, Beyond the Clouds and Voices of a Distant Star. You could probably say that I've been rather spoiled by him in this aspect I guess lol Storywise, while the thematics were still within typical Shinkai territory they weren't as heart-tugging or breaking as before, which while different isn't necessarily poor or inferior per say. Just different, which I think is the main underlining factor of the film for me. It was different from what I've become accustomed to in Shinkai so I guess it caught me a little off guard in that respect. A very worthwhile investment of 2 hours and I'm rather impressed that he's finally produced a film of such length since funnily enough 5cm per Second had a shorter runtime than than the preceding Place Promised in Our Early Days lol. I can't help but wonder though whether this extra run-time may've played part in better fleshing out the stories pacing as someone mentioned earlier and if it had affected the extreme levels of scenic porn that fell short of my initial expectations, but I digress on that part since said expectations may've been a little unfair to start off with lol All up I think I still prefer his earlier style of works over this, but this was a nice change of pace too and is not bad by any means ~Hello, Goodbye and Hello | ||||
Saint | Posted: Dec 27 2011, 11:30 PM | ||
The 6th Blameless Shift Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,720 Member No.: 2,067 Joined: Jun 21st 2004 Location: The Other Side | Wow that's your review on MAL? Lol. Hmmm, tbh this film isn't half as great as I expected after watching 5cm Per Second. 5PS is still my favourite among all his works. Of course, this is like a new territory to him, and it's quite unfair to compare it with his other works. But still, the problem lies mainly with the plot.
The scenery is nice as always. Very vibrant and detailed. But that's about it. It does invoke that Mononoke Hime feel with all those weird creatures and stuffs, though. | ||
bROCKoLEE | Posted: Dec 28 2011, 12:41 AM | ||||||
whut? Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,416 Member No.: 6,453 Joined: Apr 2nd 2005 Location: ¯\(º_o)/¯ | lol nah i don't have a MAL. That's just what i wrote somewhere esle and i just copy pasted it here cause I'm lazy like that lol
I think your main complaint isn't so much to do with the plot as it is with the character but
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Saint | Posted: Dec 28 2011, 03:32 AM | ||||||
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That looked like a MAL review. You should post it there too.
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bROCKoLEE | Posted: Dec 28 2011, 07:32 PM | ||
whut? Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,416 Member No.: 6,453 Joined: Apr 2nd 2005 Location: ¯\(º_o)/¯ | lol I'll probably just reuse it somewhere else again when and if the time ever comes. Is it plagirism if you copy off of yourself? But yea that's why I mentioned they should've clarified Asuna's and Shu's relationship a little more to help the film. But one minor little point that erks me, even though it's not really important with these types of stories is
Yea it's a nitpicky point at best but it still erks me to this day that you don't ever get to see the aftereffects from such things This post has been edited by bROCKoLEE on Dec 28 2011, 07:33 PM | ||
BOZZ | Posted: Jan 12 2012, 09:05 PM |
IDW Posts A Freaking LOT Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 28,412 Member No.: 1,414 Joined: Mar 9th 2004 Location: Update Profile | Any subs of the movie out yet? |
bROCKoLEE | Posted: Jan 20 2012, 12:46 AM |
whut? Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,416 Member No.: 6,453 Joined: Apr 2nd 2005 Location: ¯\(º_o)/¯ | Subs are definitely out yo. Otherwise we wouldn't even be able to talk it lol |
Nomake Wan | Posted: Mar 26 2012, 03:55 PM | ||
ShiMACHaze Group: Advanced Members Posts: 19,542 Member No.: 5,394 Joined: Feb 5th 2005 Location: Drydock | Just saw this film. I have to say that I thoroughly enjoyed it and definitely agree that it appears Shinkai broke out of his traditional mold to follow a Ghibli-type story. There was still a scene with a super-detailed Apache helicopter firing its guns, so I guess he still had his flying-machine quota to fill but for the most part it felt very different from all his previous works. As for the review, I suppose I have to spoiler tag it?
So yeah, I loved the film exactly how it is. Well... okay, I'm lying. I do have one nitpicky thing to mention. It has nothing to do with the plot so I'll do it outside the spoiler tag. See while the plot and animation were wonderful and the music was top-notch, it appears that Shinkai's first foray into the fantasy realm was a little rough around the edges. I can't imagine Ghibli or Satoshi Kon making a mistake like the one that ended up in this film. What kind of mistake? Continuity. Image size reduced, original size: 960 x 540. Click here to view the image in its original dimension. So in this scene, the character here has a rifle under his pack. Cool. No problem. Image size reduced, original size: 960 x 540. Click here to view the image in its original dimension. Then after walking a little bit into this big lake thing, suddenly the rifle is...gone? Image size reduced, original size: 960 x 540. Click here to view the image in its original dimension. Hard to see in this shot, but yep, it's definitely gone. There's nothing but the color of the guy's pants where the rifle would have been. Did he drop it before walking into the water? We didn't hear the sound of a gun clattering against the rocks, so that couldn't have been it... Image size reduced, original size: 960 x 540. Click here to view the image in its original dimension. They surface from the water and...suddenly it's back, slung over the dude's shoulder! Well I'll be! Where'd you hide that thing, dude? Image size reduced, original size: 960 x 540. Click here to view the image in its original dimension. Then a few seconds later, it's gone!!! Again, no sound of anything clattering, and when the camera pans around in this scene you don't see any rifle among the body armor he's removed. It was over your shoulder just a second ago! Where'd it go!? Well I guess he left it behind since it doesn't show up anymore... Image size reduced, original size: 960 x 540. Click here to view the image in its original dimension. Then, almost an hour further into the movie, it magically reappears right where it was--under his pack. WTF?! That's all I had a problem with. It really detracts from the film when mistakes like that get made. Satoshi Kon and Ghibli are very careful that small details like this don't get overlooked. For instance, if you guys haven't seen the film Millennium Actress yet, do it. It really is wonderful. There's a scene with a hat that, for me, is one of the pinnacles of continuity in an animated picture. The film doesn't put any special emphasis on the hat, doesn't put the hat into the viewer's mind and scream "LOOK AT THIS, THIS IS IMPORTANT" or anything like that. You just forget about it, because it's just a hat. But then later, when the scene has changed around... the hat is right where it's supposed to be. It wasn't forgotten by the animators. It's a very tiny detail, but that's why Kon is so great. It's all the tiny details that turn a film from 'great' to 'spectacular'. I hate to say that a little thing like forgetting to draw in a rifle is why I don't put this up with other great films, but... that's just how it is. Unless you nail the continuity, you can't get a perfect score. | ||
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