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They stopped production on the 3rd film at one point lol

Makes me think they're just winging this shit as they're making it. Really seems like they have no clue on what they're doing imo haha.

Eitherway they still plan to show the 4.0 one alongside 3.0 when it comes out.

It reminds me of the release schedule for the Macross Zero OVAs, felt like it took forever for each episode to come out.

It's sad that the forum is reminding me that this thread is 495 days old. Then again it makes sense; there are years between each of the new films and not much news in between. So here we go, an update. First off, the third Rebuild movie is in theaters over in Japan and seems to be doing well for itself. There's only two officially announced international releases I know of (those being Australia and Estonia). Great. Well fortunately some brave soul pulled a Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya (holy crap I just typed 'Haruhi Miku' there) and recorded it. Then another awesome individual cropped/adjusted the frame and used a more complete audio track and put in the part at the beginning that was missing as well as full English subtitles. The subs aren't great but it's a camrip so whatever.

Point being, I've finally seen Rebuild of Evangelion 3.0: Q You can (not) redo. Well, except you apparently can since it's Evangelion all over again but that's kind of a moot point. Without spoiling the film itself, let me just do what I did for the Madoka movie and Flight and give you guys a short, sweet, spoiler-free blurb so you can decide what to do if you find yourself with the chance to pony up some dough and see the film. Ready? Here we go.

SPOILER

NOTHING FUCKING HAPPENS: THE MOVIE. No, seriously. Nothing fucking happens. Unless you're a hardcore Evangelion nerd don't even fucking bother going to see this film. Wait for it to come out on bluray. Get it. Let it sit on your shelf until 4.0 comes out then do both back-to-back. Nothing fucking happens. I am not joking.

Okay! So with that out of the way, on to the movie itself.

SPOILER

NOTHING FUCKING HAPPENS!!! All right, all right, I'll stop saying that but I only say it because it's absolutely true. As those of you who watched the 7-minute preview on Fuji TV know, the film opens on a mission to recover...something from orbit. The mission is led by a newly-rebuilt EVA-02 (referred to as EVA-02', the apostrophe apparently standing for 'kai/改/revised') equipped with orbital maneuvering equipment, giant physical defense shields, a huge rifle and is piloted by the best character in the series. Of course, I'm talking about Asuka Lang...Shikinami Langley (Man, even after all this time it's hard to forget her original name). A good portion of the intro is spent just following EVA-02's approach to the object, having to deal with little Angel-type assailants which are dispatched thanks to her shield and support fire from Mari (who has taken to calling Asuka 'Princess'). Of course, as soon as Asuka latches onto the object shit hits the fan. Mari takes her leave early and an Angel appears from inside the object like some kind of self-defense system, trying its best to fry EVA-02 to a crisp. Frustrated Asuka yells for 'Stupid Shinji' to do something about it and suddenly a beam blasts out from the object, slices up the Angel's weapon before finally nailing the Angel's core block. That's our first hint at what's in there. EVA-01 and Shinji, of course. Now, that leaves us wondering. When does this take place? What happened in the meantime? What in the hell is actually going on? Well, the movie doesn't bother to answer most of those questions in any sort of proper way. It basically just throws flashy-looking scenes at the screen and tells you to absorb them joyfully with the promise that explanations will come. Except they don't; they won't until 4.0 comes out, whenever it comes out. For the basics, the time is 14 years after the end of 2.0/2.22. That fact is revealed early enough as we meet Touji's little sister who is no longer little. Yet for 14 years in the future Shinji, Asuka and Mari don't look a day older than the last film. On top of that they don't bother to explain what happened to Asuka (or rather, how she went from being a barely-alive corpse that had fused with an Angel to a living, breathing person) or why she wears an eyepatch (though we can guess it has something to do with the Angel fusion from a later scene). You could assume that Shinji and Asuka, in going so deep into their entry plugs and fusing with Angels had some sort of effect. Asuka says it's 'The Curse of the Eva'. Okay, but wtf is that? Why is Mari the same way? She wasn't exactly mortally wounded in the last film, nor did she fuse with any Angels. Even better, Shinji is told that he has a 0.00% sync ratio with EVA-01 yet he quite clearly had enough wherewithal to blast that Angel in orbit to bits. For 12 seconds, in fact. Then of course later in the film he hops into an Eva like it's no big deal. So what's the idea? Does he have a 0.00% ratio that doesn't mean anything, or is Ritsuko lying to him about his sync results? Those questions are left open-ended. 14 years in the future NERV has split into two factions. One faction is the original NERV led by Gendou and backed by SEELE with its plan to fulfill Human Instrumentality. The other faction, Wille, is led by Misato with the desire to just leave the world as it is. Shinji very nearly causing the Third Impact changed their minds about the Evas and they've apparently decided enough is enough and that Human Instrumentality needs to be stopped. Not surprising considering Misato's past. She has Ritsuko, Asuka, Mari and most of the original NERV staff on her side. The original NERV has Gendou, Fuyutsuki, an endless supply of Rei clones, SEELE...and Kaworu. They've got all of two Evangelions. Wille has an entire fleet of ships including an EVA-01-powered flying battleship (Gainax made a huge shout-out to the Nautilus II from Nadia with that one) and two Evangelions. We can pretty much guess where they got EVA-02' from but where the hell did they get Mari's brand-spanking-new EVA-08 from? What happened to EVA-07? And since we never see Kaworu in Mark.06 after 2.0, WTF happened to that?!!? Actually, it does show the Mark.06 in 3.0--as wreckage next to Lilith. Do they bother to explain what actually happened to it, though? NOPE!! All unanswered questions. Kaworu's comment from the end of the last movie implying he knows Shinji from before this world? Unanswered. Kaworu's fear about retrieving the Lance of Longinus from Lilith? Unanswered--though there is speculation about yet another link to End of Evangelion here due to EVA-01 in EoE dual-wielding the lances. In EoE one of the two lances was fake but apparently even a fake was good enough. The true Lance is probably what Lilith is impaled with (just like in the series) but what about the lance Kaworu used in 2.0? It's called the Lance of Cassius but where the heck did that come from? No answers. Kaworu refers to everyone as 'Lilin', and it seems to mean 'Humans'... yet Asuka refers to 'Lilin' at one point too. If 'Lilin' means human, does that mean Asuka is confirming she's no longer human? That Kaworu, Shinji, Mari and Asuka are all...something else entirely, and yet all the same? Kaworu says he's 'engineered' by SEELE yet when Shinji asks why Rei couldn't pilot EVA-13 he says that 'creations' like them have their souls in different places and can't do it. Uh, what? Does that mean Kaworu can't do it with Rei, or does it mean Shinji can't do it with Rei? Unanswered. Oh, yeah, EVA-13. So apparently for Rebuild we have the following designations for Evangelions: EVA-00 (Rei's, though she never gets an awesome blue paint scheme so shit tier) EVA-01 (Shinji) EVA-02 (Asuka/Mari) EVA-02' (Asuka; destroyed by self-destruct) EVA-03 (Asuka; destroyed by EVA-01) EVA-04 (Destroyed under mysterious circumstances) EVA-05 (Mari; destroyed by self-destruct) EVA-06/Mark.06 (Kaworu; WTF HAPPENED TO IT AFTER 2.0!?) EVA-07 (Unknown) EVA-08 (Mari) EVA-09/Mark.09 (Rei; Seems to just be EVA-00 with some boosters strapped on. Why isn't it EVA-00'?) EVA-10/EVA-11/EVA-12 (Unknown) EVA-13 (Kaworu and Shinji; Disabled by Kaworu) So that's four Evas unaccounted for and one that's really seriously cheating. On top of that we have no idea where he hell EVA-08 and EVA-13 came from (or wtf happened to the Mark.06) and the movie doesn't bother to explain. On top of that the film explains the whole your-mom-is-in-the-entry-plug and Rei-is-your-mom thing we all knew from the series--even showing a part of the Yui test--but then they don't explain how the rest of the entry plugs work. EVA-01's entry plug is what makes Wille's engine work, so what plug is in EVA-13? What's in Kaworu and Rei's plugs? What's in Mari's plug? Nope, no answers there either. The movie creates a new universe, dumps you into it, then builds up to a big reveal that never happens. It's the biggest cocktease of a film I've yet seen and now I'm regretting having bothered to watch it so early. Had I waited until it was out on home video and held off until 4.0 was right around the corner it would have been a lot better. Now I have to wait another two years for the final film to actually freaking tell me what the hell I just watched. Except of course that it's Gainax, so I have a feeling 4.0 won't answer shit. ...What I wouldn't give for a Re-take animation instead...

Oh, and fun little tidbit that blew my mind because I didn't know it until just now. You know the Dummy Plug sequence in 2.0/2.22? The funky techno noise the plug makes when it activates? Yeah well, check this out:

YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFmOI2Zi76g )

This post has been edited by Nomake Wan on Apr 24 2013, 06:36 PM

This post has been edited by Nomake Wan on Apr 24 2013, 06:36 PM

Shut up, I know it's as many days old as there are dalmations. Just wanted to update and say that the home video release is out, which as expected is 3.33. A proper subtitled version should be out by the weekend. No doubt UTW has an entire team dedicated to speeding the hell out of the subs, especially since the bluray rips we already have included Japanese subtitles for the entire film. Super win-win.

Watched it raw myself, though, and while yes there are minor script changes and such the home video release does not resolve any of the issues I had with the film as mentioned in my post above. So in case anyone was wondering if 3.33 would magically turn 3.0 into a good film... no. It doesn't.

See you next year!

EDIT: Actually, I take that back. Re-reading my critique of 3.0, 3.33 does answer a single question. Just one. Here it is. Spoilers!

SPOILER

It shows Eva-13 being developed, so we at least know where that came from.

That's all though. Everything else I said before still stands. I have a bad feeling that a lof of the 2.0/3.0 gaps won't be explained by 4.0 either. Ugh...

This post has been edited by Nomake Wan on Apr 23 2013, 04:30 PM

I borrowed 2.22 from a friend and I went through the first two movies over the weekend to get pumped for 3.33, and now you're saying that it isn't much of an improvement from 3.0? Man this is a load of bullocks! Well at least I got to watch both of them again. Is there a date for the release of 4.0? Or are they being vague and saying 'SOMETIME NEXT YEAR!'?

Is it still better than congratulations?

I'll still probably watch it either way.

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This post has been edited by KyoukoFD3S on Apr 24 2013, 02:48 AM

Originally, 4.0 was announced for 2013. Then the official site updated and removed the date. Therefore we have no idea whatsoever when it'll be out in theaters. Could be 2014. Could be 2015. Could be 2020. We don't know.

It's only better if you ignore the existence of End of Evangelion. If you agree that End of Evangelion exists then no, it is not yet better than the TV canon. Story-wise, anyway. Action and graphics and such, sure, it's better...but 3.33's story leaves a lot to be desired.

My recommendation, as I mentioned originally after seeing the theatrical release of 3.0, is to grab the bluray of 3.33 then just wait. Don't watch it. Lock it into a safe that will only open in 2014 or something. Just wait until 4.0 is out. Once 4.0 is out and you can go watch it, pop open your copy of 3.33 and watch it before heading to the theater. That way you'll get the full experience.

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Seriously.

Oh, something else I didn't notice until I went to rewatch the first two films (or flick through them for the cool bits, anyway). 1.11 and 2.22 are both 16:9, which on the bluray is 1920x1080. Same resolution as my TV and the same aspect ratio as any HDTV on the market. Cool? Cool.

Well I hadn't noticed because I flicked through it on my monitor (which is 16:10, so I'm used to seeing black bars on 16:9 content) but 3.33 is not 16:9. It's 2.35:1, which is smaller than 16:9. This flies in the face of the preview clip they had broadcast on TV (which was 9 minutes at 1280x720, which is 16:9) and indeed the aspect ratios of the first two films. Why they decided to go with a 35mm film aspect ratio instead of the 16:9 aspect they've been using this whole time, not a clue.

Sigh.

EDIT: I rewatched 1.11 today for the hell of it and during the preview for 2.0 I caught a single line by Misato that forces me to change one of my comments above. While I don't recall it being mentioned in 2.22 (I'll be flipping through to find out for sure) the preview at the end of 1.11 mentions that EVA-04 befell the same fate as it had in the TV series. That is, it was vaporized. It still doesn't explain what happened to EVA-07 or anything else, but one less 'mystery' I suppose.

EDIT 2: Yup, just flipped through 2.22 and sure enough, SEELE mentions losing EVA-04. Kay. Well what the hell happened to EVA-07 and EVAs 10-12!?

This post has been edited by Nomake Wan on Apr 24 2013, 06:38 PM

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If it comes out next year. It would be awesome if it did, but... well... I mean look at when 1.0 came out. That was September 2007. It's April 2013 and we only just got 3.33.

Also, you mean 2.22. It goes like this:

1.0: First Movie, Theatrical Release
1.01: First Movie, Initial DVD Release
1.11: First Movie, BD Release/Follow-up DVD Release
2.0: Second Movie, Theatrical Release
2.22: Second Movie, DVD/BD Release
3.0: Third Movie, Theatrical Release
3.33: Third Movie, DVD/BD Release

Also, for those few folks here hoping that 3.33 will get subtitled and all that goodness here's a status page from UTW. You may or may not be able to access it since thousands of other Eva fanboys are currently slamming UTW's blog server to a crawl but I'll link it anyway.

http://utw.me/2013/04/23/evangelion-3-33-status/

This post has been edited by Nomake Wan on Apr 25 2013, 03:51 PM

Actually, 1.11 got a DVD release as well. *nitpicking*

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Okay Mr. Anal, to be perfectly correct the initial DVD release was 1.01. I will edit my previous post to reflect this.

(It's okay, anal is cool as far as I'm concerned )

Does anyone have the English subtitles for Movie 3? Any version would do, but the one I downloaded is about 1.4 GB (DVD/Bluray). The subs I have is missing in the front part. :/

I know it's a tall order but you really should download UTW-THORA's rip instead. It's a much better-looking raw than what you have and has proper typesetting to boot.

If by 'the front part' you mean the Ghibli short, however, UTW did not sub that and as far as I know no one has. On top of that, if you got your copy before UTW released theirs then you're using the shitty-ass garbage-as-hell camrip subtitles that suck nuts. Stop that nonsense immedaitely before you hurt yourself. Here are your new options:

UTW-THORA Subtitle Files (Cheap)
UTW-THORA 480p MP4 (Good)
UTW-THORA 812p MP4 (Better)
UTW-THORA Full Quality MKV (Best)

NOTE: UTW's subs are designed for a raw that has the black borders cropped out. As such if your raw is 16:9 with the black borders intact the typesetting will be incorrect if you go for the Subtitle Files route.

I thought it was weird that Ghibli is involved.

My issue is the front part of the movie, thinking it may be important to the plot (you know, like explaining what's happened... Wtf is that Eva floating up Tokyo IRL~ What the words are saying, etc). Since nobody subbed that, I suppose it's unrelated?

I just wanna know the story with decent visual+audio quality. Lol. Not gonna download 4-20GBs just for 1.5 hours worth of movie. Not that hardcore.

I've renamed the file, but I think it's also from UTW-Thora (812p).

Anyway, thanks for the info. I appreciate it.

Ya I decided to wait a bit before downloading any random one, just cuz that's how the wind blows with the impatient downloaders and the copycat torrents.

Right now I have mixed feeling of watching it, but I am just lazy about actually giving a review of what I think mostly. I'd still rather wait for 4.0 to come out first before commenting on what feels like an incomplete movie without its end cuz my opinion is still incomplete. For this Nomakewan's review will suffice.

If I am pissed off about anything has always been since wanting to see all 4 movies original planned release back in 2007 to 2008 in a span of 6 months when there was a lot of hype for it. But only to be ruined to not really caring as much and having to wait for 3.0 for 5 to 6 years and still no release date for 4.0 (the original plan of showing 3.0 and 4.0 back to back in the summer of 2008 never happened).

On top of that it's using the twisted Anno directing philosophy on film. Kinda wish the writing was more like the Sadamoto version like the manga, but what can I say, even I'm pissed off at the Sadamoto for the long hiatus he also has on his manga (and I thought he said he was coming back already a few months ago but where is that manga ending). sign.

In any case I don't even have any of my otaku friends watch this Evangelion, and I told them to just wait till all 4 came out if they decide to (didn't even tell my otaku friends that have never seen the original series to watch it). Except the problem is that's what I told them to wait back in 2007. Almost 6 years later...boo...

@ Saint, just get the UTW subs. They've got a 480p version out now.

Saw 3.33, lotta questions, not a lot of answers and the film generally just kinda goes off and does it's own shit so don't expect any similarities with any of the past eva stuff. Even the previews at the end of the second movie didn't make it into the film (though that's probably because they decided to do this time skip shenanigans halfway through production). I'm a little hesitant to say that it's jumped the shark but there's still the last film left so I'll withhold on it until then.

Oh and it's Khara who are doing these Rebuild movies, Gainax isn't involved and frankly a lot of the old vets have left Gainax so it's a sad shell of its former self.

I'd say if you really wanted to watch the film, just watch it. It'd probably be another 2-4 years before the fourth one comes out. If anything, you'd have questions either way whether you've seen it or not.

This post has been edited by bROCKoLEE on Apr 27 2013, 10:31 PM

bROCKoLEE: I've already gotten the subs, just the problem of the front part of the movie, where it's not translated (which is the case in all released subs like Nomake has mentioned).

That's some hell of a wait, Chidoki. Lol. It's been so damn long (2-3 years since I last watched either one of the Eva movies? I dunno...) that I never thought of Evangelion movie 3 until recently when I browsed through my DVD shelf the other day. Saw my Evangelion series set and thought, 'Hey yeah, what happened to that tetralogy?'

It's becoming a chore to watch it... :/

This post has been edited by Saint on Apr 27 2013, 11:00 PM

If it's just the first 6 minutes and the opening fight scene then there should be other videos of that floating around that you can resort to.

EDIT:

This post has been edited by bROCKoLEE on Apr 27 2013, 11:17 PM

The easiest way to tell if it's from UTW is one of the lines at the very beginning of the film. EVA-02 is kicking at an enemy that just popped out of nowhere. On a rip that doesn't have the Ghibli film it's at around 5:56. With the Ghibli film intact that would be around 16:12ish.

Camrip Subs: Gotta do a core block!
UTW Subs: Gotta destroy the core block!

As far as I know the Ghibli film is semi-related. It's in the same universe, but there's nothing as far as I could tell to indicate the actual time period. Here's a rough outline of the story from when I watched it.

SPOILER

The university-student little brother of the narrator shows up at her apartment and tells her that this boy only he can see told him to tell everyone to run. Run away. Get as far away from Tokyo as possible. She of course thought the poor kid must've gotten drunk or something and ignores it. The next day... a giant something appears in the sky over Tokyo. Everyone's too busy tweeting and updating Facebook and taking pictures and video to even think about running away. That is, until it lands and starts blowing up the city. Then more, and more, and more...until Tokyo is nothing but a smouldering crater. The story begins with the start of the destruction. The Gods are not made up entirely of Creators. Nor are Gods simply those who would grant someone their wishes or prayers. A massive calamity in the shape of a person came down from the sky. That much we understood instinctively. Fear itself is the true form of any God. That is why humanity continues to cause suffering unto itself and joins hands with those who take lives. They drop to their knees. They beg. They pray. This world has a lifespan. And yet, if you left it to us the world would just lazily continue living. In response, the world itself forcefully summons them into existence. When that happened, we realized that everything that should end would do so. However... Even so, we wanted to continue to survive. We did not want the world to end. ON THE FIRST DAY, MAN AND ALL LIVING THINGS ON THE SURFACE DISAPPEARED. It was said that the God of Creation made this world in but seven days. ON THE SECOND DAY, EVERY LIVING ORGANISM WAS ERADICATED. Yeah well, we created plenty of things in this world too. ON THE THIRD DAY, THE SUN AND THE MOON WERE DESTROYED AND 'DAY' AND 'NIGHT' CEASED. ON THE FOURTH DAY, THE GROUND SANK AND ALL BECAME WATER. ON THE FIFTH DAY, THE WATER AND SKY BECAME RED. It may look like everything was destroyed in an instant like this, but it probably took just as long to destroy as it did to create. ON THE SIXTH DAY, LIGHT BECAME NOTHINGNESS, AND ALL WAS WRAPPED IN DARKNESS AND CHAOS. If the flames consuming this world will take seven days to destroy it, you have that many chances to escape from it. Run. Continue living. You should create a new world by your own hands. ON THE SEVENTH DAY, THE CALAMITY COMPLETED ITS WORK, AND IN THE JOY OF REST IT WEPT IN SILENCE. I don't give a damn about the will of the world. I don't give a shit about God's will. In this ending world, when every existence but mine was clinging desperately to a last shred of hope, I continued living, and I ran away while waiting. THIS, IS THE SEVEN DAYS OF FIRE ABOUT TO BEGIN. A giant flame came before the advent of the new world.

@Chidoki: It's okay, I know how you feel. I honestly want to see Studio Khara go make a back-room deal with Studio Kimigabuchi to make a new Evangelion film. RE:TAKE would make a perfect conclusion to the original story.

@bROCKoLEE: Holy shit you just answered a HUGE question--while Evangelion leaving questions isn't anything new, you just explained to me exactly why I felt so betrayed by 3.0. I just went back to be sure and yeah, the preview for Q at the end of 2.22 shows everything that happened between the end of 2.22 and the beginning of 3.33...yet 3.33 has nothing from the preview. No wonder. No freaking wonder. Wow. That's just... wow. Now I'm not so sure 4.0 will be able to answer all my questions. Will they really flash back? Will they really delve into that story? I'm not so sure anymore.

Dammit now I'm depressed...

EDIT: Dammit you two posted again while I was typing that. bROCKoLEE you haven't seen the bluray yet I'm guessing (or you patiently waited for UTW and didn't see the original raws) and therefore have no clue what Saint's talking about. He has the whole movie. The whole movie, including a ten-minute clip created by Studio Ghibli which UTW cut out of their raw and did not translate. I translated the juicy stuff in my spoiler above.

This post has been edited by Nomake Wan on Apr 27 2013, 11:39 PM

That's. Just. Beautiful! :')

Thanks for the translation, man.

Not a problem. No thanks to you, after I realized I'd bothered to translate the entire second half... I figured what the hell and am in the process of translating the beginning too. The only problem is that my typesetter is currently sleeping and has no idea I'm about to spring this project on him.

When I release it'll be as a single file--that is, just the Ghibli film by itself. It should only be a hundred or so megs. If UTW won't do it, I will!

I think that'd be great. I would watch with that subs for another round. Haha.

All hail the power of the great One/WAN , corny pun if ya translate that Ghibli. That summary did got me curious about wanting to see it. RE:TAKE would definitely have been a good conclusion. I would have wanted Angelic Days but then again that became a standalone for the original series episode 26 (if only they animated it all)