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kyonpalm | Posted: Mar 5 2017, 02:49 AM | ||
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Interesting. I gotta get ready for a trip soon and I won't be back until the 20th, so I'll definitely rip and post it assuming no one else does before then. | ||
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magiblot | Posted: Mar 5 2017, 05:41 AM | ||
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That'd be great, thanks. | ||
xiao | Posted: Mar 5 2017, 09:45 AM | ||||
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Isn't the MPAA standard for DVD's something like 27 fps ~ I'd imagine Japan always followed suit with Hollywood standards but I've never really check'd tho ~ XD
Godspeed in Japan my friend! (^o^)/~☆ If you got time go to a rental-shop & see if they have the original DVD pressing of 1st Stage. I've heard rental stores sell their stuff for beaucoup cheap ~ like Amazon JP re-seller cheap in the 2 to 5 to 10-max dollars range. Or just rent it & see how the rip of TokyoPop fares compared to the olden R2's on your lappy ~ but yeah dun spend more than 3 bucks on it ... it'd be a cool little adventure if you got time to kill in between business & pleasure ~ ♪ | ||||
magiblot | Posted: Mar 5 2017, 10:29 AM | ||
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Film is recorded at 24 fps, the same framerate at which most animations are drawn (there might be contemporary animators using other framerates, but that's definitely not the case for anime). Apart from that, there is the NTSC standard for TV broadcasting and everything that connects to the TV through RCA and S-Video cables: 29.970 fps (which is a periodic decimal number that results from dividing 30 by 1.001). This includes DVDs, VCRs, etcetera. The NTSC standard is used both in America and Japan. So, films and animations are made a framerate conversion when encoding to DVD (telecine), which can be done easily with interlaced video (3:2 pulldown). NTSC DVD's usually have the advantage that a single framerate conversion was done; for instance, many PAL (Europe) studios get interlaced NTSC video masters and re-convert them directly, so the frame pattern becomes a mess, and ghosting and other artifacts are usually generated (double hard telecine or worse). Thus, with a NTSC source, it is possible to recover the original 24 fps parts easily by undoing the 3:2 pulldown, which just implies re-ordering the interlaced half-frames (field matching) and then removing the repeated ones (decimation). This does not even require a lot of computational power. Getting 60 fps from interlaced 30 fps (what I intend to do with the CGI parts) does, though. This post has been edited by magiblot on Mar 5 2017, 11:19 AM | ||
xiao | Posted: Mar 5 2017, 11:18 AM |
moon bunny Group: XIAO Posts: 5,735 Member No.: 13,323 Joined: Oct 4th 2005 Location: Update Profile | Woah! I had no idea animation was done differently from film s'far as FPS ~ ☆ Do you know what was the main program the studio (OB Planning?) used to produce the original animation for 1st thru 3rd stage? Moreso what program they used for the CGI on all those 3 Stages? I know 4th Stage's OB Planning used a variant of the Cel-Shader program Michael Arias, that anime director for Studio 4°C, helped develop ~ which had actually been in testing since way back in Capcom's Auto Modellista days ... Animation by hand to wacom I've no clue what was even used back then ~ Premiere? & CGI all I know is Maya & AutoCAD lol ~ do you know what apps they used back then for both animation & CG? That'd be a super interesting tidbit! ♥ This post has been edited by xiao on Mar 5 2017, 11:23 AM |
magiblot | Posted: Mar 5 2017, 11:34 AM | ||
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Haha, I guess I really should excuse myself for explaining so many strange things nobody asked for -- but I can't stand being an Initial D fan and knowing nothing about cars ~ :'( ~, so I had to compensate it with some video-technical speech | ||
xiao | Posted: Mar 5 2017, 11:45 AM | ||
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haha ~ It's actually pretty interesting tho. No-one knows anything about cars here lol we're all Programmers, Sushi Chefs, & AV☆Stars ... xiao being the Master Ironâ„¢ Sushi Chef of IDW of course! | ||
Meteor | Posted: Mar 5 2017, 01:56 PM | ||
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For First Stage, the animation was done with hand painted cels most of the time, if not always. I'm sure there wasn't a dedicated animation app back then, as it wasn't the digipaint era yet, so compositing/editing was probably done with whatever general-use editing software they had at the time. As for CG, 3D Studio Max did exist as far back as 1996, so they probably used that by the time production got started. 3DS Max was probably used for every one of the stages too, as it's pretty much an industry standard. By the time Second Stage came out, pretty much every animation studio was moving onto digital ink because cel animation cost a lot more. I couldn't find much info on what software they used for 2D animation back then, so my best guess is they just inked and colored the drawings in some image-editing software and then copied them over to some random video editing software later. I have no idea about Third Stage, but they were using either Flash or RETAS by the time Fourth Stage came out. RETAS is more or less the industry standard for digital 2D animation in Japan now, so I'm guessing every subsequent Initial D anime used that as well. | ||
xiao | Posted: Mar 5 2017, 03:11 PM | ||
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Woah-ly-moly! Super interesting Meteor my friend ~ Yeah I think I may've been mistaken on the 4th Stage CGI tho ... given I think Cel-Shader's just a plug-in of sorts for beefier 3D applications! ♥ | ||
Samoro | Posted: May 2 2017, 09:03 AM | ||
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BAD NEWS The page Nyaa.se closed your doors! It means all the links aren't useful more... There's some other torrent page we can download the series? | ||
Nomake Wan | Posted: May 2 2017, 09:23 AM |
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otacon | Posted: May 3 2017, 12:42 AM |
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Nomake Wan | Posted: May 3 2017, 05:16 AM | ||
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xiao | Posted: May 3 2017, 07:46 AM | ||
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Image size reduced, original size: 795 x 399. Click here to view the image in its original dimension. This post has been edited by xiao on May 4 2017, 11:03 AM | ||
kyonpalm | Posted: May 3 2017, 08:53 AM |
Professional Amateur Group: ADMINISTRATOR Posts: 10,568 Member No.: 30,882 Joined: Oct 16th 2008 Location: Laniakea | Nyaa is dead (thank the EU) and BBT is private, so everyone should just use AnimeBytes at this point. I've updated the first post to reflect this. This is frustrating enough already so anyone else posting "UHHH LINK DEEAAADED?!??!" will be kicked in the ass by me immediately. I'd close this thread but alternatives and links to other new content are always welcome, so here it stays. |
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Tessou | Posted: May 5 2017, 05:07 PM |
More NEGATIVE than a black hole Group: ADMINISTRATOR Posts: 19,345 Member No.: 12,263 Joined: Sep 12th 2005 Location: Update Profile | Kickasstorrents and TBP torrent sets for Initial D are still active. |
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jetpackz | Posted: May 10 2017, 03:10 PM |
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kyonpalm | Posted: Jun 2 2017, 11:51 AM |
Professional Amateur Group: ADMINISTRATOR Posts: 10,568 Member No.: 30,882 Joined: Oct 16th 2008 Location: Laniakea | By request, here's a VOB file from a TokyoPop DVD. This is from disc one of their First Stage box set, which I believe contains the same discs they used for the individual volumes sold separately. |
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magiblot | Posted: Aug 28 2017, 06:15 AM |
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SEB4EVER | Posted: Aug 31 2017, 12:21 PM | ||
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Premiere wasn't widely used even though it was introduced back in 2003. Avid Media Composer was introduced back in 1989. It was used in the early 90s and it quickly became the go-to NLE but its price tag was enough to cause a stroke: $100,000-$300,000. Now it costs $1300 and has come a long way in film editing. Back in early 2000s, Apple and Avid dominated the editing field and continued to be rivals until FCP7 was declared EOL (End of Life in early 2016) and the fact FCPX which was released in 2011 that upset a lot of editors. Apple had a sub-1000 Final Cut Pro 4 software back in 2003 which was used mostly in TV and film because of the fantastic Apple hardware used back then and it was still being used until 2012. However, some editors back then were using either a Flatbed editor, Moviola, or any linear editor that was similar because back in those days computers were a hit-and-miss. This is a condensed answer as I'm sure I'm leaving a lot out but I don't to make this a long post. This is just to give you an general idea. You can read more: NLEs in the 1990s This post has been edited by SEB4EVER on Aug 31 2017, 12:21 PM | ||
idforumsBMN | Posted: Sep 11 2017, 01:02 PM |
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hen741 | Posted: Sep 21 2017, 05:53 PM | ||
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there is now nyaa.si and nyaa.pantsu.cat requesting a link or magnet link for a complete torrent of inishiaru dee in nipponese with eng subs...I lost everything due to a hdd crash, would highly appreciate it | ||
xiao | Posted: Sep 22 2017, 01:34 AM | ||||
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Neal Stephenson Hiro Protagonist Snow Crash reference ..
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Nerubian | Posted: Sep 22 2017, 06:11 AM | ||
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Oh boy, the domain's name couldn't be any more unimaginative, huh? However, I'm glad nyaa is back. This post has been edited by Nerubian on Sep 22 2017, 06:14 AM | ||
kyonpalm | Posted: Sep 24 2017, 04:15 AM |
Professional Amateur Group: ADMINISTRATOR Posts: 10,568 Member No.: 30,882 Joined: Oct 16th 2008 Location: Laniakea | I updated the OP with nyaa.si links to the same content. Thread is no longer obsolete. |
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