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> S/N.Korea V.s U.S, OMFG
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  Posted: Feb 13 2003, 06:28 PM


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im f**ken piss off at South Korean. them f**ken idiots. the U.S was the one tryin to protect them. and they f**ken burn da U.S flag. im so mad right now.. N.Korea f**ken have a missile could launch and hit San Francisco.. aww gay.

f**ken N.Korea's leader must be go away like Saddam. NO More communist!!!!!!!
communist aint gettin anywhere but poor..!!!!


P.S San Francisco muhahah may hometown.. grin
lets get Iraq first then get the N.Korean. hope China would on our side tho!!!
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Posted: Feb 13 2003, 07:40 PM


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QUOTE (vtecstyl3z @ Feb 13 2003, 06:25 PM)
NO More communist!!!!!!!
communist aint gettin anywhere but poor..!!!!


ummmm, by making this statement, I presume that you support democracy, but by supporting democracy you should also respect other peoples right to choice of government. If you dont, then you are undemocratic.
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hahah..... no. you know what? COmmunism = one person rules. leader make ppl follow theirs rules. and if you dont. you either get kill or put in jail. basically you got no rights at all. you just follow your leaders's decision. example such as the China's college students. they protest about the rights in Beijing. and China's leader bust out some tanks and whoop their ass. they want change. but muhahah too bad u aint got any powers. it still happens in China. N.Korea's leader he spent all the money on Military. ppl in N.Korea are starting to starving. N.korea's leader does not care his ppl starving to death. all his want is some nukes. and N.Korea has about 1,000,000 troop. they prob thinking goin to take over S. Korea.

i believe the only way to see peace is . find a room and lock all the world's leader in it. and never let them come out.
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ya kill 'em all!! o wait. . i kno nothing about politics. . so i'm gonna sit this one out. . .that sux that they burned the US flag. . .not cool. .
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Posted: Feb 13 2003, 08:14 PM


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Actually.. in theory.. Communism is the ideal utopian gov't. In execution.... its not so good.
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Posted: Feb 13 2003, 08:18 PM


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While I do not support communism, hating the idea of it goes against democratic principals.


yeah, communism was supposed to be utopian and all that stuff, but it always ends up corrupt and unfair, like the USSR
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There's lots of injustices in the world, and many governments whose practices we don't agree with, but I don't think that becoming World Police is right.
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QUOTE (GoFastLookSlow @ Feb 13 2003, 11:11 PM)
Actually.. in theory.. Communism is the ideal utopian gov't. In execution.... its not so good.

that's why it's said that "one person's utopia is another's distopia"
while one person might find something perfect... someone else has to work desperately for that to happen...
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Communism works best on a small scale population. Capitalism works better on the large scale. Communism is not where one man has all the power and kills people at will. That is a dictatorship or totalitarianism. The USSR was a dictatorship/totalitarianism but called themselves communists/socialists. The western world generally dislikes "communism" based on using the USSR as its definition, which is a big mistake. That's just like saying you hate democracy if Hitler had called himself and the third reich a democracy. Anyways, a true communism will work as long as no one wants to have/steal more money or have more possessions than other people. However this is basically impossible since most of the world is a capitalism. People who lived in a Capitalist country could never accept Communism because in a Communism everyone is equal so no one can "steal" from the others. In a Communism you can't become a big CEO of Microsoft and monopolize the entire population and thus take money from the many to make the one rich and powerful.
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Communism works best on a small scale population.

Communism works only if the country has the rightful leader -- which is pretty much impossible to determine until they have the seat
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That's just like saying you hate democracy if Hitler had called himself and the third reich a democracy.

democracy is just a term to defining something... it's like i would love initial d even if it's named something besides initial d... it's the content that counts... and in your hitler example, it's what hitler did that counts... if killing and total massacre is democracy then yes, people would hate democracy...

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QUOTE (Hachi-Roku @ Feb 13 2003, 09:09 PM)
Communism works best on a small scale population. Capitalism works better on the large scale. Communism is not where one man has all the power and kills people at will. That is a dictatorship or totalitarianism. The USSR was a dictatorship/totalitarianism but called themselves communists/socialists. The western world generally dislikes "communism" based on using the USSR as its definition, which is a big mistake. That's just like saying you hate democracy if Hitler had called himself and the third reich a democracy. Anyways, a true communism will work as long as no one wants to have/steal more money or have more possessions than other people. However this is basically impossible since most of the world is a capitalism. People who lived in a Capitalist country could never accept Communism because in a Communism everyone is equal so no one can "steal" from the others. In a Communism you can't become a big CEO of Microsoft and monopolize the entire population and thus take money from the many to make the one rich and powerful.

darnit awesome reply.. im looking for more peeps reply muhahahha!!!

im goin to pick political science for my major in college for sure!!!
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QUOTE (|[ .tainted. ]| @ Feb 13 2003, 09:18 PM)
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Communism works best on a small scale population.

Communism works only if the country has the rightful leader -- which is pretty much impossible to determine until they have the seat
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That's just like saying you hate democracy if Hitler had called himself and the third reich a democracy.

democracy is just a term to defining something... it's like i would love initial d even if it's named something besides initial d... it's the content that counts... and in your hitler example, it's what hitler did that counts... if killing and total massacre is democracy then yes, people would hate democracy...

w3rd! cool.gif
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QUOTE (slow13dude @ Feb 13 2003, 08:21 PM)
There's lots of injustices in the world, and many governments whose practices we don't agree with, but I don't think that becoming World Police is right.

w3rd!!!! that is so true, especially when one country is about to act without the rest of the UNs concent. UN should be world police, not America
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Posted: Feb 14 2003, 03:02 AM


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Dude China will not be on our side. They hate us and bush will have to talk long and hard will alot of american comanys before decaleing war on them too. China has a ballion trillon people as potental coustomers, also we would have to have at least Japans permission, since unless overwelming cirrcumstances the U/N. approved the war. In which case, would be the best as china could not fight an open war. Plus there is the last Koren war to think about and the Army and such will have to rethink tactics... I could babble on but you get the point biggrin.gif
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simple way to win china is to drop a Nuclear bomb. but I dont wanna see america and china in war. that would be bad. if that happen i think world war III would start too. but really. these years. U.S helping Taiwan. China strongly disagree with U.S. i think U.S should just let China take his lil island back, since f**ken Taiwan want to see U.S and China into war. if China get his lil island back. i bet China would happy to be U.S's ally.

N.Korea the leader is evil. bush will bring him down after Iraq is over. im sure if this month and next 2 months. if there aint gonna be war. there would never be one with iraq. so year muhaha cant wait to see what happen!!
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Though I have no idea what the hell ya'll are talking about other than communism my sister has this image on this computer thats pretty call about communism and whenever i see it it makes me think (dont ask)

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Koreans don't like USA because they don't like the idea bowing down to the US might. They think the US is arrogant, cocky and imperialistic.
And I agree! Ya ever wonder why it is that the US can possess 'weapons of mass destruction' and other non US allies can't? Hypocrits.
It's like the USA has become the Britain of its time. They put people like Sadam Hussein and other evil dictators in power, but when things go sour for USA's interests it's time to take them out for 'peace'.



and eightsixdrifter, that pic is pretty funny
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Posted: Feb 14 2003, 02:43 PM


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Yeah yeah yeah.. the USA is always the bad guy. If you dont like it here... move. If you dont live here.. good, we dont need you. WE help out more countries than anyone in the world, but yet they all b*tch. Lets cut off all foreign support.. and we will se how quick they start crawling back.
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QUOTE (eightsixdrifter9 @ Feb 14 2003, 09:05 AM)
Though I have no idea what the hell ya'll are talking about other than communism my sister has this image on this computer thats pretty call about communism and whenever i see it it makes me think (dont ask)

ok that pic is just bs

when u download mp3's ur just taking away the petty cash from the face-less corporations that r only out to take money away the hard working person
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actually we can not cut off the trading.. because we do business with S. Korea. they sell tons of crap to United States. How many you live in United States knows this clothing store called "Old Navy" the old navy import tons S.korea stuff. S.Korea is developing country. and N.Korea not. and S.Korea from a baby into a adult. now it seem they dont need their dady anymore. if we cut off trade hahaha economic going to went down fast than you would expect. actually we toss hella food to S.Korea too.
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QUOTE (GoFastLookSlow @ Feb 14 2003, 02:40 PM)
Yeah yeah yeah.. the USA is always the bad guy. If you dont like it here... move. If you dont live here.. good, we dont need you. WE help out more countries than anyone in the world, but yet they all b*tch. Lets cut off all foreign support.. and we will se how quick they start crawling back.

That doesn't make what I said less true
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THe cookies are always screwed
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Never said that it did. I never tried to prove you wrong, I was just stating my opinion.
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Your point was valid too
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Posted: Feb 14 2003, 04:28 PM


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QUOTE (Guest @ Feb 14 2003, 04:20 PM)
Your point was valid too

Forget to log in again? Your point was valid as well, anyways, lets see what happens with all this Iraq stuff.

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