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Perry, the difference between Floh and Jays is that Jays was actually a friendly person off of the forums who chose to be an asshole on them.

Floh is a douche in real life too. I will never forget his "How to install a boost gauge" video where 1/4 is instructional and 3/4 is insulting.

Do I think either is an excuse to have them around again? Nope.

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What ever happened to this Flohting point?: https://idforums.net/index.php?showtopic=51...indpost&p=94217 isn't it cute? It's like a baby picture of Ghidora.

Those are some of his first posts and I have to say that the things he talks smack about seem like the exact things he went in doing when he joined. I can't seem to find the point where he becomes so damn caustic. There had to have been something that triggered the change from Initial D/drift video fan and poster to elitist bastard who talks shit about anything that didn't fit into his version/vision of competitive motorsports.

Do you have a link to that boost gauge vid? I'd like to see it just for laughs.

This post has been edited by JKaiba on Jun 26 2012, 11:33 AM

I can understand not having this attributed to me if you had to actually search to find it, I'm a lazy ass who wouldn't search for it either, but I said it in this very thread. Can a ̶m̶a̶n̶ talking desert plant not get credit for his words?

Do you call your boss a cockbag? Would you call a hotel clerk a cockbag? Would you like to be called a cockbag outside of the track?

This post has been edited by Cactus on Jun 26 2012, 12:51 PM

I've actually called my boss that plenty of times, then we both laugh.

On occasion, yes, knowing full well that something equally as amusing is coming back.

This is what Matt and I mean when we say it's a difference in cultures.

If you know that its from different cultures then you must understand that not everyone knows the track lingos that are commonly used. I was at first offended by floh's post but then I came to terms with it because:

1) I kinda knew that he was like that.
2) You guys just explained it to me.

Either way, it is not commonly socially acceptable to call your superiors cockbags without getting a pick slip or something worse.

Cockbag would be mild compared to the way my boss and I talk to each other at work.

Jkaibas link was weird, everything was sepia toned, who was this guy using flohtingpoints account (not the floh I know!), GT5 perfect Lols. Good times, good times...

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You're completely right, I was just thinking back to when Snow was banned and how a thread like this would've been nice to at least say our final fairwells, then the thread would just slip into history.

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Oh this is lovly, i come back after years and he gets banned. This is funny as hell to me and i dont know why.

Congratulations. Too bad it's not, in any way, shape, or form, and you're just making yourself look like a cockbag in saying that.

How is flohting's ban justified when 'Spaz is theoretically doing the same thing floh was?

I don't understand what direction IDW is going what the 'new' staff and the work ethic. I'm all for 'LONG LIVE IDW' and all of that shit, but I feel like this message board is holding grabbing everyone by the throat when strolling around.

This post has been edited by Steve on Jun 27 2012, 07:18 AM

That's a very good question, Steve. Spaz, please try not to let your personal opinions on this matter make you apprehensive toward others in this thread. It may have been in poor taste for CrypticApathy to say that, but that doesn't mean you should take an inappropriate attitude, either, especially considering your moderator status. I really shouldn't have to say this in public...

i think everything should be out in public.

Thank you.

Because Spaz is keeping that behavior off of the board.

Is this thread not on the board or something? Is this some sort of pseudo-universe caught between two planes of existence?

This. Half the grief I've seen Spaz give on this matter is in this thread.

tl;dr

Good riddance, he was a doucher anyway. He contributed basic track knowledge that was common sense. I still cannot understand why some folk think he's such a guru with automotive stuff. He was a chump that just liked to bait and troll people, nothing of value was lost beyond the fact that he's been a member for a long time.

I don't think you're getting what I'm talking about.

Spaz does not go around the board starting fights and calling people disparaging terms. Floh did this for many years. What happens on the track and in the shop is a whole different ballgame, which is what Spaz explained. Yes, I understand that it's acceptable in those areas, but not on a board with rules specifically laid out to discourage members from doing so.

Aaand you seem to not be getting what Don's talking about. Steve said Spaz was basically doing what Floh did, because he made this smartass post:

The word "cockbag" ring a bell? Then you said Spaz is "keeping that behavior off of the board" which is obviously false because Spaz just did so just five posts above you. Did you not see it?

I must've missed that.

Judgement mode, activate!

If so many people are frowning at the staff's decision, should we have a public vote then? Either way it's fine with me. Keep in mind the poll is not anonymous, admins can see who voted what, just keep that in mind.

I think a democratic process would be a good idea.

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I think it's perfectly fine to make a poll letting the public decide whether Floh's banning was a good idea or not. I don't think the verdict will be any different, but there's no reason we can't do this.

I will start the poll now...

This post has been edited by kyonpalm on Jun 27 2012, 04:41 PM

First note is that I did not CALL him a cockbag, but simply pointed out his statement had the distinct possibility of making him look one. I could have chosen any other mildly demeaning word and easily gone unnoticed, under the radar, a post to be skimmed and ignored.

But I chose that one, specifically because I had a point to prove. Context is everything here. It's a message board. The only thing we have is context. We have no emotion, we have no expressions, only words and (hopefully) punctuation marks. Anyone can interpret anything in any way they want, infer any meaning or intent they want, despite what the truth actually is. It turns what should be a cut and dry exchange of messages into a game of symbols and marks and their multiple meanings that one can play with to their heart's content. And when emotions and intent get replaced by preconceptions and imaginings, things turn ugly and wrong.

The context of floh's ban was that he made a simple joking statement that referenced the admin/mod team (myself included, remember) as "cockbags." You guys are free to use my above paragraph to interpret this one however you see fit.