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> Drift or Grip
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Posted: Oct 15 2009, 07:46 PM


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exit speed is fine.. the acceleration comes back really fast..

but the problem is when u turn excessively like wat u do on a FR.. u do that on the FF u lose a lot a lot of speed..

and steering wise it was so much fun... the control is so so so so so much fun!
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Posted: Oct 15 2009, 10:07 PM


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wo...really?? seems its more reliable than the FR....hmm...guess tonight i will gv FF a test drive... cool.gif
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Posted: May 10 2010, 05:36 PM


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1st of all I am sorry to brought up this issue since I have found out that there is a new style of drift in IDAS5 pls watch this vid 1st before try to flame me....
YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7jNG2wYkLg )


Anyway what your opinion on this new style??? Or do you guys already master this new style???

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Posted: May 10 2010, 06:00 PM


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some of them are already trying.

something similar was used for Tsukuba if you still remember

then came for Wet for Akagi and Akina if i'm not mistaken... then they port it to Dry


will be interesting to see an Iro vid with this style

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Posted: May 10 2010, 06:06 PM


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Ya will be interesting to see Iro and Nagao wth this new style...
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Posted: May 10 2010, 06:16 PM


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possibly happo too? It's all twisty with small straights after corners, so throttle steer would probably be a huge help.

Now if only we could figure out what they're doing in more detail...
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Posted: May 10 2010, 06:19 PM


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QUOTE (stormfox @ 18 minutes, 31 seconds ago)
will be interesting to see an Iro vid with this style

iro dh dry 3'02''827 SW20 with the style
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ8qYsg3OzI

iro uh dry 3'04''718 evo3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHb61aZT0to

iro uh wet 3'11''080 evo3 (World Record)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iudvNSoh6CU

happo OB dry 2'59''761 EK9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkG4OXAqEBM

nagao dh dry 3'11''511 MRS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbRX4Jqmwx8

All the drift style.

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Posted: May 10 2010, 06:19 PM


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QUOTE (DigiBunny @ 3 minutes, 5 seconds ago)
possibly happo too? It's all twisty with small straights after corners, so throttle steer would probably be a huge help.

Now if only we could figure out what they're doing in more detail...

Yes u rite, if only we could see the throttle and brake paddle control....
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Posted: May 11 2010, 12:23 AM


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cools

thanks DD~!


hmm.. i wonder...
if previously not drifting in corners is about saving tires...
where does sliding this sliding of the rear put us...
mmmm...


edit: loving the Nagao DH vid.... now thaaaat is how ID is supposed to be played.. =P sliddeeee.. but some corners is disorienting though...

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Posted: May 11 2010, 03:54 AM


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Thanks Ultradd, other vid guys that you could found?
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Posted: May 11 2010, 04:20 AM


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Akina uh wet 3'18''0 GC8 (World Record player)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxohKEGdGtk

Tsukuba OB Wet 3'06''2 AP1 (World Record player)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGfy15hdo8g
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Posted: May 12 2010, 08:26 PM


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Just saw the vid yesterday and tried it today, it's actually pretty easy. The problem is controlling the slide angle with countersteering. I tried it on a few maps, it's best utilized on hairpins where you'd otherwise just be waiting off the throttle to clear it. Got the same times on the courses I tried it on, was faster on Akagi down with it though smile.gif
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Posted: May 12 2010, 09:50 PM


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Would braking in the middle of the corner would help in anything else other than sliding a little extra?
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Posted: May 12 2010, 09:55 PM


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QUOTE (Akii @ 5 minutes, 54 seconds ago)
Would braking in the middle of the corner would help in anything else other than sliding a little extra?

Here's a hint, remember what they say in gokarting never to use brake and gas at the same time wink2.gif i'm mostly a grip player, but i can see certain corners where drift may help, so my play is now a combination of the two.

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Spin-out? Oversteer too much? Sorry, I never been go-karting before. sad.gif
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Posted: May 12 2010, 10:17 PM


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QUOTE (Akii @ 13 minutes, 41 seconds ago)
Spin-out? Oversteer too much? Sorry, I never been go-karting before. sad.gif

It's bad for the brakes, but anyways, that's how you slide in id5. brake a little earlier than usual and while braking nail the gas. Getting the timing and line right is pretty tough, I'm still learning (just got a card today) after playing with only grip when stock
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Posted: May 13 2010, 02:12 AM


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QUOTE (TougeSpirit @ 3 hours, 55 minutes ago)
It's bad for the brakes, but anyways, that's how you slide in id5. brake a little earlier than usual and while braking nail the gas. Getting the timing and line right is pretty tough, I'm still learning (just got a card today) after playing with only grip when stock

Guh?
While braking?
The car slides fine if you brake while cornering. The inertia of your moving mass makes you skid, and that in turn slides the rear around. You cant really do it early, or you start to lose the time you can spend accelerating or braking in and out of a corner.

I think it's been mentioned before that simultaenous braking/accelerating does nothing to help, only hinder one or the other's effectiveness. Unless that's what the japanese players are doing in their drift videos... I'm not sure where you're coming from with that.
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Posted: May 13 2010, 02:18 AM


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QUOTE (DigiBunny @ 6 minutes, 42 seconds ago)
Guh?
While braking?

Yes, a quick tap on the gas while braking.
On the recent japanese videos, you can see the tapping point when the speedometer stalls for a split second while braking.
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Posted: May 13 2010, 02:48 AM


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That sounds like a heel toe then. Link to such a video please? Havent come across that yet.
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Posted: May 13 2010, 03:10 AM


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QUOTE (DigiBunny @ 22 minutes, 16 seconds ago)
That sounds like a heel toe then. Link to such a video please? Havent come across that yet.

You have seen it lol. All the videos i have linked in my previous posts and the akagi dh vid tkrd linked in this thread. Watch carefully how the speedometer changes and you can roughly guess their footwork.

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Posted: May 13 2010, 03:14 AM


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QUOTE (DigiBunny @ 25 minutes, 59 seconds ago)
That sounds like a heel toe then. Link to such a video please? Havent come across that yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XI-hJCpsq8

Hmmm I still dun get the drift totally....
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Posted: May 13 2010, 05:25 AM


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I'm not really seeing any "stall" per se, which leads me to believe that it's a left foot braking, right foot gas with very very little delay.

But I do get it. Interestingly, the exit speeds are slower by 8 or 9 kph; but they can still hit the same times... The question there I guess is how much throttle do we need to give it. The point of acceleration is evident from the countersteer, but that's about all I can derive.
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Posted: May 13 2010, 05:51 AM


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QUOTE (DigiBunny @ 26 minutes, 8 seconds ago)
I'm not really seeing any "stall" per se, which leads me to believe that it's a left foot braking, right foot gas with very very little delay.

But I do get it. Interestingly, the exit speeds are slower by 8 or 9 kph; but they can still hit the same times... The question there I guess is how much throttle do we need to give it. The point of acceleration is evident from the countersteer, but that's about all I can derive.

From my experimentation, the throttle opening tap needs to be 100% to be effective, the only real concern is the duration as that affects the level of the drift, I'm still playing around here, but my times were pretty much the same with or without using it. But it gives you something fun to fool around with in hairpins instead of just waiting off the throttle to clear a corner
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Posted: May 13 2010, 06:56 AM


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When u hit your limit using grip style, it's time to try the drift style.
The hardest part is when you start learning the new drift method.
Don't get discourage after trying a few times of fail attempts.
Just keep trying and trying.
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Posted: May 13 2010, 06:11 PM


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Ya practice make perfect, tonight the practice to drift start. Time to burn $$$

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